That STATS are out? T11 Normal and Heroic, 10 and 25? Which is easier, Which is harder?!
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- Опубликовано: 8 июн 2024
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We did only halfus hc (no trys on other bosses). Then halfus, omnotron and atramedes. This week were looking at maloriak and chimeron.
Its been alright so far, its one of those were when everyone finally clicks its an easy kill. Struggle, struggle, struggle, clean easy kill.
Hey it would be nice an in depth guide for enhancement shaman, there is no much out there and would make quite a few views
I agree the difference is huge between normal and heroic. You 1 shot all normal bosses but when you spend an hour progressing a boss change it to normal then it falls over
The punishing loot table on 10m will widen the divide over coming weeks. It feels so horrendous progging a heroic 10m boss and then getting two pieces of loot total and having to DE both. If this happens a few times each reset, the 10m raiders fall way behind (and with the increased cadence, might be in a lot of trouble for firelands)
Yeah we've had to DE a few pieces already as well :(
Our guild went in week 1 just wanting to push over everything on normal and get some more gear as we only had a couple of hours on PTR. Week 2 we got halfus HC down and some decent pulls on magmaw, atramedes and conclave HC. This week we're definitely going to focus on atramedes and magmaw, probably looking to omnitron and chimaeron the week after.
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The stats are cool to see. I do think that users reading this need to remind themselves on the heroic kills / pulls stat is hiding any pserver and beta prog which would majorly inflate some of this stats.
oh 100%
It makes sense to me sinestra pull count is low because the only guilds that can even attempt it are ones that beat all the others. You can wipe 100 times on council pushes those averages up and you won't see sinestra.
Yeah definatley
You don't actually have to do ascendant council on hc, you just need cho'gall. It seems quite a few people don't realise this and it is pushing down the Sinestra kills
i think chimaeron being "difficult" stems from the wotlk mentality of healers, specifically holy paladins, who are spamming flash of light and going oom within the first massacre
What an odd thing to say
My friends and I went into this expansion with the intention to chill, we didn't particularly care about heroic kills any more as we had done everything pre-nerf in TBC, WotLK and are starting to feel burnt out but we find ourselves starting to get pushed into HCs now because Normals are way, way, too easy. Sure we weren't expecting to struggle and that's fine, but there's nothing fun or enjoyable in a 40s to 1 minute fight, and as a bonus because they fall over so easily we don't really get to practice for the HCs we now find ourselves planning to do. Imo there isn't a Normal and HC difficulty right now. At large, there's a Raid Finder and Heroic difficulty.
I definitely think they dropped the ball on normal, they should've buffed the health pools of the bosses outside of Nef to make the fights longer so the mechanics can play out the way they're intended. Good insights on 10 HC though, the info is so hard to find with everything still being explained in 25man terms. Does Chimaeron interrupt his feud in 10m HC? Different guides seem to disagree on that point.
Yes, Chimaeron interuppts his fued, but commonly is still 2 tanked in 10 man
No boss is dying in 40s to 1 minute on normal... (if your damage is good enough to kill the bosses in 2 minutes even you should be orange/pink parsing and doing the bosses on heroic) Unless you're parsing extremely high as a group most bosses in 10m last atleast 2.5-3 min allowing you to see pretty much all mechanics, but killing the boss one time isn't the same rep wise as wiping 10 times on heroic, and adjusting throughout. Are they extremely easy on normal, yes, but several of the easier heroics, Atra/Maloriak/Halfus are quite easy on 10 HC and very approachable for many groups. The upside of the normal bosses being quick and easy is that you can easily alot 2 of your 3 hour raid time to progging each week on heroic without the worry that you wont clear which I think is healthier than struggling to complete the raid on normal and not having the time to touch heroics.
@@dbmooseFor us, Magmaw and Maloriak is probably the most offensive as he dies before green vial even have a chance to happen, but yes I did dramatize. Doesn't matter too much though as nothing is particularly punishing so mistakes really, really doesn't matter which I think is a big issue.
25m N trash seems overtuned