Jean-Philippe Rameau - Suite in G major/minor (Nouvelles Suites de Pièces de Clavecin 1727)
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- Опубликовано: 6 июл 2024
- - Composer: Jean-Philippe Rameau (25 September 1683 -- 12 September 1764)
- Performer: Grigori Sokolov (piano)
- Year of recording: 1997 (Live in Bergen, Norway)
Suite in G major/minor, from "Nouvelles Suites de Pièces de Clavecin", for harpsichord, written in 1727.
00:00 - Les Tricotets (Rondeau)
01:46 - L'Indifférente
04:25 - Menuet
06:05 - Menuet II
08:11 - La Poule
12:27 - Les Triolets
17:00 - Les Sauvages
19:06 - L'Enharmonique (Gracieusement)
25:33 - L'Égyptienne
The "Nouvelles suites de pièces de clavecin" includes 15 pieces. The first seven pieces of the anthology are grouped around A major and A minor [not in this recording], while the remainder are centered on G major and G minor. Like all French keyboard works, they are notable for such characteristic devices as the broken chord (stile brisé) taken over by French keyboard composers from the influential school of early seventeenth century lutenists. Also highly characteristic are the lavishly decorated melodic lines, based on a code of ornamentation illustrated in didactic prefaces by composers such as d'Anglebert and Couperin. As in all three of Rameau's collections, the pieces are divided between the binary (two-part) dance movements of the Baroque suite and the character pieces unique to French instrumental music.
The present collection is headed by three dance movements: an Allemande, a Courante, and a Sarabande (worthy of special mention as one of Rameau's noblest conceptions), and also includes a Gavotte et doubles (variations) and a pair of Minuets. The descriptive character or genre pieces sometimes have intriguing titles, the original meaning of which cannot always be determined. The Nouvelles suites includes ten such pieces, among them one of the composer's most famous keyboard works, L'Enharmonique. It takes it name from the striking enharmonic modulation just after the start of the second half, reminding listeners that the composer was also an outstanding theorist whose "Traite d'harmonie" (Treatise on Harmony) was one of the most influential pedagogical publications of the eighteenth century. Another popular piece here is La Poule, which graphically imitates the clucking of a hen in the most ingenious fashion. The contemporary vogue for the exotic is not ignored, either, as the inclusion of pieces entitled Les Sauvages and L'Égyptienne clearly illustrates. A number of Rameau's keyboard works were later orchestrated and reused in his operas, an example being the Sarabande, which later found its way into the third act of "Zaroastre" from 1749.
These pieces were originally written for the clavecimble, in this recording they are played on the grand piano by G. Sokolov; his 'clavecimble-like playing' of these pieces on the piano shows that it can make perfect sense to play harpsichord pieces like this on the piano if they're handled as well as they are here by Sokolov. 
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"La Poule" reminds me of Scarlatti's sonatas. It is a very interesting and innovative piece.
agree. it keeps its baroque culture intact, but manages to travel very far.
This is really exquisitely played. Such control, poise and daringness that suits the genius of the author.
I don't understand why Rameau is not more well known. This is great!!
Maybe because this is not the instrument where it is written for? This is piano which everybody plays nowadays while the original was written for harpsichord which of course sounds much better
@@HarpsichordVinylGallery PIANO BETTER
@@18SchabergRafe for music written for the piano because this sounds like some sort of spaghetti
Because of the french revolution that ceased to transmit the french heritage.
@@18SchabergRafe Ooga booga
J'adore cette musique.
Bravo!!!
To all the harpsichord elitists in the comments:
Please do not put down this brilliant recording solely because of its choice of instrument; it sounds equally good on a piano, and you will never know Rameau's intentions because he did not have a piano to experiment with! Please, if you want a harpsichord recording, find one yourself, because I don't know why you're here. Do not insult the pianist and his playing so.
Could not have said it better my friend. This is beautiful and I am 100% positive that Rameau would have loved it so
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On peut faire comme moi...aimer les deux. ❤@@fredgarv79
@@valerieheinderyckx4506 I do love them both! Just like I love some bach piano pieces, the variety of classical music never ends and it is truly a wonderful thing
Sokolov one of the great living pianists chooses to play it on his instrument, and who is to say they know better than him?
I have no words, so for ask my impression about this magnificent music!)) I like "La Poule" and 2d theme in Tricitets, from 1:05 till 1:18 !!!! Very successful performance!!!!!!
+Franz Xaver Yes it's fantastic! Glad you enjoy it too :)
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ISolokov is a very great intepret of Rameau on the piano. Nevetheles, I do not agree with some of his tempos, for instance the "tricotets' (first piece), which is played much too fast in my modest taste. There are other pieces in the book that request fas tempo, but not that one. Reversely, the 'menuets' seem to me a bit slow. 'La poule' is in the right tempo.
Just heard the last movement today and always enjoyed the savages or whatever…. I like the chicken dance and my neighbors have chickens, and this will make me think of the song here when they go at it in the mornings.
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The Minuets are much too slow.
how slow are they
Everything is better on a piano
(and I am a guitarist!)
NIce, but the playing doesn't match the score in the menuets (correct me if i'm wrong). for eg sokolov plays dotted rhythms while this isn't so in the sheet music.
Two words: Notes inegales.
Don't always expect Baroque or Classical scores to give you all the information you need to play the piece - players and singers were not only allowed but expected to improvise or know the rules of playing in certain dance styles. If the pianist played the exact score as shown, that would be the mistake.
That’s notes inégalités.
Rameau rocks Bach, but not on a Steinway.
i'm pretty sure Rameau would have loved electric guitars. B)
"La Poule" still fucking rocks on this steinway, anyway.
@Fan Gali Just wait until you hear it on the Harpsichord …
@@louiscouperin3731 a banjo will do also
@prep0wer Not the same. Harpsichord wins.
How dare they record this on a piano. This is clearly for harpsichord and very poorly suited for piano. The dynamic nature of the piano can over-accent notes here and there in a way that was absolutely not intended. Where can I find a harpsichord performance of this?
Jesus Christ enough with the harpsichord conservatism already. This is a such a tremendous musical performance, all people do is whine about it being played on the wrong instrument. I truly, truly feel sorry that you're unable to hear what a wonderful performance it is and instead of just finding a performance on YT or Spotify played by a harpsichord chose to instead whine on a video where it's played by piano. Unbelievable.
I think this piece is truly pianistic in its own right. We pianists play Bach, should we stop doing that too? And finding a harpsichord performance of this is not difficult - there are several on YT - maybe type "harpsichord" along with the name?
Better listen for once to the original performance to give your opinion. This is an insult for Rameau. We don't perform Symphonies of Beethoven on synthesizers yet but musical taste obviously has degraded.
Rameau would have killed to have a piano forte (See NOTE) at his disposal. What makes many of his pieces exceptional is that they have the inherent dynamics of piano music. The crescendos, accents, etc. AND because of this, I take issue of adhering to the ornamentals which were, in my opinion, designed for the harpsichord attempting to deal with its mono-"issimo". This music transcends the instrument and the piano does it more justice.
NOTE: I only recently saw a forte reproduction being played and a major disappointment doesn't come close) at his disposal!
If it sounds good, it sounds good. There is no way of knowing what Rameau would have 'intended' because there was no piano for him to try it out on. It is ridiculous to be so rigid with other peoples' intentions.
Horrible! this is an insult to Rameau. This is not a piano piece. Rameau never wrote one single note for a modern factory made bombastic piano. This is a harpsichord piece PERIOD!
No one cares
Stop embarrassing yourself with these emotional rants against pianists, it's juvenile behavior!
The history of keyboard music spans over 700 years, and includes music for all kinds of keyboard instruments, including harpsichord, piano, and organ. Many composers played multiple instruments and they often played their own works on various different instruments, or adapted their works for other instruments, and Rameau was no exception.
One thing is for sure though, Rameau never wrote his pieces with the intention of uploading them to RUclips, so I wonder why you are even here, if you're such a purist.
Since Rameau was not only a harpsichordist and violinist, but also an organist, maybe you could move to an organ channel and discuss this topic with organists instead of pianists. Or even better, why don't you go to a petting zoo or a children's farm and start attacking little hens for not sounding exactly like Rameau's 'La Poule' as played on a harpsichord?
As for Sokolov, if you are unable to at least acknowledge the extremely high quality of Sokolov's playing in these pieces by Rameau, then quite frankly, you have lost all credibility.
Apart from that, your argument against performing Rameau on a piano doesn't make any sense and is just as silly as claiming that you can't translate the Bible into any modern language, since those languages didn't exists when Jesus walked the earth.
And J S Bach keyboard music? That is no problematic? Why? It´s the same issue. I don´t understand this kind of comment, if you don´t like Rameau´s music played in the piano go to the thousand other videos with Rameau played in harpsichord.
@@codonauta Bach played on a piano? hahahahahahahaa only an idiot amateur would listen to that.
@@Herr_Flick_of_ze_Gestapo Yes, because that no one plays Bach on a piano.
The suite was intended for harpsichord but the use of so many trills etc on the piano makes the suite sound pretentious and disjointed. Careful use of ornaments is needed when played on a piano. So 4 out 10 for Sokolov, could do better.