TESTING cEDH OPENING HANDS TO SEE IF WE WOULD MULLIGAN
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- Опубликовано: 8 фев 2025
- We're joined by Tyler to talk about our current mulligan philosophy and practice mulliganing by looking at practice hands
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“I’m Cam” “I’m Dylan” “I’m Injured”
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What happened?
I don’t know why I read this in the tune of the purple windmill 😂
@@jakebosch2106thats what im saying
Was Tyler just so good at cEDH that someone lashed out? In all seriousness I hope he's ok! Glad to see the three of you on today :)
Well the last time I tried to beat Tyler to death for reading all my CEDH plays he just flipped me on my back and choked me to sleep with his legs while looked at top16 kinnan lists so I think this was probably more of a self inflicted thing to knock himself down a peg and keep himself humble.
excellent "say the line fast" bit at the top, y'all. also Tyler on Krark Tymna? BASED
this new 'Injured' character gives off a pleasant if slightly pugilist vibe
I hope u feel better, Tyler. Much love to you and the play to win crew
Tyler is the GOAT for rocking that beauty mark this podcast
Is it just me or is Tyler looking more badass this week?
I was just going to say this
As someone just getting into cEDH, this video is WILDLY useful.
I look forward to these podcasts to listen to on my Friday runs after work, this week I have been running a fever of 103. So, I am instead watching you from the comforts of my bed trying to survive. Thank you for allll these podcasts. They are great.
This video came out at such a convenient time. I've been watching for many years now but after seeing Hashaton spoilers I want to get into playing cEDH. I've felt so lost playtesting hands but this gives me a better idea on what to do and look for
Welcome to the format
Love the test hand vids on insta, love that you guys are going deeper into it. Another stellar vid!
Recover well tyler, i wish you the best.
Fantastic episode guys! Thanks!
Oh was Kinnan deck upsetting someone recently lol
This was incredibly helpful insight w/ philosophy and examples. Thank you! And, hope you recover quickly, Tyler!
Regarding that long winded Rog Si hand mulliganing down to 5: Why wouldn’t you just imp seal for ad Naus? You then keep the council instead of born and hope it digs you to enough rocks to pop off, and if you don’t, you sculpt your hand on turn 2 and the cards go to grave, then turn 3 tutor for breach
Shoutout Tyler , I would’ve been at home sleeping
I think if my opponent spent as long thinking about their hand as they did about the imp seal born upon a wind hand I would simply concede
ANOTHER EPISIDE OF MY FAVORITE PODCAST!
I love the test hand episodes!
I really enjoy these test hands / mulligan episodes and shorts. Such an under talked about topic
Tyler must love Kahn’s of Tarkir because someone cast savage punch on him in real life…
32:55 couldn't you just gamble for ancient tomb? does the same as crypt if you have no lands
I love that they were looking at the CONTROL T&K list that did so well that tournament lol. It’s not a turbo list whatsoever
44:49 needed this today
Having a gameplan for your hand is also good advice for casual way too many players keep hands that has lands and spells and then don’t actually do anything
That intro was definitely a top 5 podcast intro!
This 'injured' guest is pretty cool. I reckon you should have him on regularly
Sisay has been an interesting one post-ban. Now I’m on Dihada lines the ramp to nowhere hands seem fine where in the past you sort of needed dockside or a creature tutor to have a similar game plan. You can generally keep a recent hand that just gives you access to all your colours quickly but unlike most decks I feel like Sisay really struggles past a mull to 5 or 6 as you don’t want to be overdrawing. At the same time you have a great incentive to mulligan as you’re running at least 10 cards that you don’t want to see drawn in an ideal game. I have to say Lotho has become infinitely better than any other turn 1 play in Sisay though because jamming down a quick Lotho underneath the setup stages and accumulating 3-6 treasures has been one of the best starts for me in recent tournaments.
Hope you'll get better Tyler!
Watching from CT. Shoutout Lake Compounce!
Tyler's going for the intimidation advantage in the next tournament.
2:50 in casual I’ll often take my first mulligan if my hand is blah regardless. Usually when I do so the other players will also decide they should mulligan haha.
HEY GUYS I meant to comment this on the last one but forgot until just now!
I think, the most effective "balance" of seat order would be.
Seat 1: 0 Free Mulligans
Seat 2: 1 Free Mulligan
Seat 3: 2 Free Mulligans
Seat 4: 3 Free Mulligans
And everyone still draws their card on the first turn
HOWEVER this puts a lot more time in mulliganing than it does in actually playing the game... would LOVE to hear your thoughts!
Every time the camera goes to Tyler I am immediately drawn to that eye.
I think every game (unless you get an incredible opening hand) you should mulligan at least 1 time.
I hope Tyler defeats his demon ego Injured and recovers soon before his eyes go full bloodshot and we lose a national treasure ❤ get well soon!
Omg I hope Tyler makes a good recovery
Love this idea! Ive been thinking about playing cedh but i feel like my mulligan desitions are sht😂
More mulligan videos!!! I have much to learn
Not keeping hands that are just okay and/or not properly knowing the risk reward of a hand can lead to a lot of effective non-games.
Commander even makes that easier because a lot of people just reveal their commanders before the game even starts allowing. Imagine keeping a hand full of one drops knowing your opponent was Eldrazi or Mono red and being surprised you lose to a chalice on one. Resiliency should not be underestimated why made Oops go from meme to tier 1 is Resiliency not a speed increase.
Regarding the 3rd Rog/Si hand, I would keep the borne, still play the necro t2 (hope that it resolves), but then I would value play the necro to just refill my hand and go for the win on turn 3 with all my mana up. Otherwise, if you dump your whole health pool into the t2 necro, then you run the high risk of whiffing on your 0 drop mana rocks to get you where you need to be mana wise to finish off the game.
Shouts out to the Lake Compounds sweater
Injure has some insane takes and great points
I would say that the difference between mulligans in cedh vs casual is more than cultural. In cedh, you need to go fast and develop a gameplan as fast as possible, every single game. In casual commander, where not everyone is having crazy strong starts, that just makes you a target. And if you are on a mulligan to 5, and get 3 pieces of removal sent your way, you're probably 100% out of the game. In casual resiliency is far more important than speed. The average casual game is going to see at least 1 board wipe resolve, if not 2-3, and if you are several cards down on everyone else, it won't really matter that you had a fast start when the farewell comes down.
If you guys do this again you should use a d12 for the commanders being played and a d4 for seating. Id love to watch more especially since im learning plagon!
for the rog hand that went to 5 i would go bottom land born, impseal for naus and go t2 naus unprotected with council as the backup plan
That’s what I thought immediately as well
Love you guys and all your podcasts! Would you guys rate a CEDH deck I built? Or give me feedback on what would be good to slot in?
Looks like tyler won the counter war
This episode is fucking awesome
Kenny pilot here, DYLAN 😎😎🔥🔥
Looking at Rog/Si hands was 😎.
Did Tyler take an overhand left from a tiger? 🤔
@tyler - you say you’ll never be against 3 RogSi in a tournament but you were in a 3 Najeela pod with me at punt city 1. It could happen!
That’s my line 😂
What happened to "Injured"?
My face? You should see the other guy-tyler.
I say this with all the love but Tyler, you look like a true villain now.
Genius
Tyler Test Hands... finds out they hurt. Turn two Seedborn brings hate!
39:12 My dudes, look at Tyler. I don't think you want to see him angry so why are you tempting fate?
For the rogsi hand I would have imperial seal for ad naus turn 1 and turn 2 culling the weak plus 1 more land to cast ad naus 😂
My friend plays kenrith almost all the time, the deck is painful to play against because it just grinds so much value
As a Narset, Enlightened Master enjoyer, I'm hurt by Tyler claiming that only Etali, Atraxa, and Kinnan can keep hands that are all mana.
im the tymna kraum author. triple rogsi is in fact my worst nightmare.. Would have snap kept that 6 though and gambled for dark ritual
Will any of y’all be at the Hunter Burton memorial?
I’ve got a question for you guys. Now I’m not a cEDH player but I’m interested in the format. I was recently going through my bulk and came across “Flamescroll Celebrant//Revel in Silence” (Strixhaven set) the back side of the card seems really good cEDH giving you access to another instant speed silence effect. So my question is why does no body play it? -!: what are your thoughts of the card for cEDH? Is it because the front side is red and the back side is white that it can only slot in decks with Boros colors. I feel it should be played more in partner decks/ any boros cEDH decks.
Is there a link to Tyler’s tymna /krark list?
Second 7 in cedh is bonkers
Dylan why do you want to play Mystic Remora on turn 1? Tournament games aren't like RUclips cEDH videos, people will just not feed the fish and Tymna decks are super happy playing creatures every turn. Unless you have a bunch of fast mana early I feel like it's better to hold Remora for your win attempt with Valley Floodcaller and use Fish to draw more interaction.
Rog/Si just jam it, the longer you wait the more your opponents have.
That first hand of rog u don't have fierce up if you have to copy the ritual
I’m one of Kenrith those players. ❤
Sweetness! I suck so bad at mulligans 😅
It is tough for sure.
Especially cedh! Casual you're good to just run with it if you can pilot well... but making a plan turn 1 in my head can be rough! .. maybe I'm just playing decks out of my play style, or firm understanding 🤷 lol
It looks like the virus is kicking in. I predict the talking stops at 20min, and the last 27min is just Tyler eating Dylan and Cam....
I hope Injured is okay.
33:00 Couldn't you gamble for Ancient Tomb and fix the hand?
also glasses of urza, against single or double turbo is excellent. triple though yeah that's useless
Could u not play food chain kenrith and use the draw ability to deck everyone out?
Damn. Who fucked up Tyler's eye?
39:40 lmao tyler xDD
Someone does not like the kinnan player
Tyler, this community will disappear someone if they hurt you mate.
Imp seal for ad Nauseam
where Ufarm list?
Every intro Dylan's face starts tweaking mad crazy. Just chill bro.
Band hurt Kennrith a LOT
Imp seal for necro
Who tf crashed out on Tyler?
Algo
no means no
You should have had t and k go up against kinnan and other 3 Rog is unrealistic
It's not a good podcast unless Tyler is sighing in frustration at least once
In my play group we start with a Mana rock and three lands, then we shuffle and draw three more and keep. No mulligan. That wouldn't work in cEDH huh?
Far too consistent, and that encourages poor deckbuilding
The fuck happened?
Sorry guys. Watching your TnT mulls was rough. I play a lot of 3 color decks and run 4-5 fetches. You dont have underworld breach, why are you playing off color fetches? I maybe wrong but isnt 6 fetches enough? You also get 6 duals and 6 shocks plus rainbow lands. To many of those TnT fetches messed you up cuz the fetches were red.
33:48 Why not just Imp Seal for Ad Naus. T2 Culling jam naus? It's a bit unprotected but you have the online counsel on T3 to put together a backup gameplan if that doesn't work
When they mention, Not having Mana crypt, you could gamble for ancient tomb, play talisman or rograk with Dswat up. turn 2 ADNAUS. wtf. EZ keep. @cam @dylan @freedomwaffle.