The incredible inventions of intuitive AI | Maurice Conti
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- Опубликовано: 27 фев 2017
- What do you get when you give a design tool a digital nervous system? Computers that improve our ability to think and imagine, and robotic systems that come up with (and build) radical new designs for bridges, cars, drones and much more -- all by themselves. Take a tour of the Augmented Age with futurist Maurice Conti and preview a time when robots and humans will work side-by-side to accomplish things neither could do alone.
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We put a nervous system in a race car chassis, raced that thing for a week, captured four billion data points and plugged it into an AI that created a 3D model of the ultimate race car chassis... then we went on with our lives, like nothing ever happened, neither build nor tested the damn thing -- thanks for watching!
p0rt3r he doesn't want to give out plans for his formula 1 test drive ;)
You could build it from 3D printed Titanium @ $13 a cubic centimeter for a total cost of a million bucks, or we could just stick to a tubular design which works and get it welded up for $15k. Decisions, decisions.
For the lazy/curious:
www.fastcompany.com/3054028/inside-the-hack-rod-the-worlds-first-ai-designed-car
Joshua Kuehn Great article, much more detail than this video offered. Thank you!
p0rt3r or we (99% ers) aren't privileged to that information!?!?
Since AI can optimize a structure on a molecular level the same way DNA through natural selection does, eventually all manufactured objects will look organic. Taking on coral, crystalline and fractal forms. Future human civilization will truly look alien on an aesthetic level.
The organic designs remind me of Superman's Kryptonian structures.
I was thinking exactly that
That's and amazing thought, congrats
@@felipebrunetta2106 yea, look forward to it :DD
After few years of living in organic reality you will love simple cube - law of transcendence. (Immanuel Kant ). Anyway sphere is a most optimized form.
As a viewer in 2024, experiencing this video brings a heightened level of interest. Observing it through the lens of our current era, it becomes evident how time has shaped our perception. This serves as a reminder of our progress, technological advancements, and the enduring power of storytelling.
This really has aged like fine wine. *Looks at midjourney, DALL-E ...*
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THIS is a TED talk. Technology, entertainment, design. Not politics, opinions and safety.
its all the same thing dude
not exactly the same, but bound together as every aspect is part of this world if we want to (are interessted in) or not. :)
But yeah, I enjoy technology talks more too, even if a good (!) political speek can be entertaining too.
cobby407
Almost every Ted Talk has its use
cobby407 Amen to that!
Sure but what about humane design? Progress with people in mind instead of just cutting them out of everything?
That said I loved this talk and i found it highly interesting and enlightening
i wish i could live for the next 1000 years to see the evolution progress
Yeah me too. I would love to see all the amazing progress we'll make.
Joao Correia If you are under 30 and choose to do it you will probably live until the heat death of the universe or longer if there are more universes
well i said living for the next 1000 years not forever :P
Like a wise man once said: JUST DO IT!
edition.cnn.com/2016/10/06/health/rapamycin-dog-live-longer/ I don't know about a thousand but living to a couple of hundred years old is probably a realistic thing to expect if you're young enough
This reminds me of the documentary, the social dilemma, where they meant for it to connect us but instead it has isolated us and AI and intuitive algorithms are invading ever part of our lives whether we want it to or not, creating a subconscious addiction to tech and actually dumbing us down into docile sheep depending on tech for everything.
he plainly said it took a human a robot and an AI ...augumenting each other
This is true... they're coming out with fully computerized combines that use a plethora of sensors to determine speed, threshing rates and adjustments, separation and cleaning efficiency and loss rates on the go, and then AUTOMATICALLY control all those functions on-the-go. That's great, WHEN IT WORKS, but these sensors and their control solenoids or motors making the adjustments on the go are NOTORIOUSLY unreliable... dust, moisture, tons of vibration for hours on end, extreme heat and cold, and gnawing vermin during the winter, and all these factors acting over years causing corrosion, embrittlement, and breakage causes NO END of problems and unreliability. What's more, it's COMPLETELY UNNECESSARY-- all that's really needed is a PROPERLY TRAINED AND ATTENTIVE *OPERATOR* instead of a lazy dumb bunny too busy playing on his phone and too lazy to actually learn how to properly adjust and evaluate his machine and keep it operating properly in the given conditions he's working in.
Manufacturer's love it because they add all this computerized junk and then charge $100,000 more for it, so it's a cash machine for them, plus it needs probably 10X the maintenance by dealer mechanics using their computers than the old stuff EVER needed... so it's the gift that keeps on giving!
Later! OL J R :)
Humans: AI design something to stop climate changes.
AI: *starts skynet*
prince camelblu
AI: launches the nukes
*launches Corona.
it's scary becuase that probably would be the best option to stop climate change lmao
If it launches nukes that would be the worst for the life, so no.
Except.......Does the AI have the right input.. such as the info that our government is the one creating the climate change......not the citizens living normal lives. Government is controlling the weather, creating the disasters, creating the bs ..........is government letting the AI know the truth about CERN, HAARP, the chemicals they are dumping in the sky? Its starting with the wrong info to begin with.
I can imagine this video being played on a broken screen in some post-apocalyptic Terminator landscape (particularly the optimistic predictions in the last few minutes).
scary
That is what I'm talking about... This needs to stop😢
true.
i want watch the movie already
that's exactly where we are heading towards
computer
make me the most addictive song known to man
ok : Darude Astley - Sandroll
That is what Robbie Rotten asked lol
Justin Bieber - Baby
GANGNAM STYLE
Jake Chudnow - Going Down
"Endless fields where human beings are no longer born...we are grown." !
bah, the Matrix was overly optimistic... all dystopian fiction is romaticized b.s. because "everyone died. the end." doesn't sell well.
Human dual nature is reason why Matrix exist.
Birth is a stage of growth.
Human beans.
Indeed - Births and subsequent conceptions are the milestones :-)
I always wanted to hook up all of the stop lights in my city to a central AI to optimize the flow of traffic all throughout the city in multiple different conditions. That would save billions of dollars a year.
the city i live in actually did that but then people got through too well and thus started to drive faster resulting in more accidents so they cancelled the project
@@lukasraymann4815 interesting. I wonder what control you could introduce potentially. It sounds like it was a political decision to axe it before any thought could go into improving it
@@liamhoward2208 I feel like the best solution to that is required auto-pilot for cars, once it's at that point, don't make any new cars with human drivers, computers are already basically as good as us in the vast majority of cases, the edge cases where they make mistakes would still decrease the number of accidents per year by a massive number... AND in this scenario it would mean the cars can be as efficient as possible without speeding, etc...
@@PapaBear_Gaming Not right now., A large portion of people would never accept handing their lives over to a computer - that can be hacked or otherwise fail.
They've been timing traffic lights for a long time now... You'd know that if you drove the speed limit.
His optimism at the end completely ignores corporate greed.
BangDroid Corporations can and do go bankrupt. Corporations are not the all-powerful entities people think they are.
People think that because when they do go bankrupt, they're often bailed out. The greediest of corporations are often the ones considered _too big to fail_, and will always be bailed out. (2008?) Remember, corporations by their very nature are psychopathic and oblivious to their own greed.
People were this optimistic 30 years ago about the technology we take for granted today, and now a handful of companies run almost all technology. I'm not saying things are horrible today, but we're treading a very thin line.
If an advanced AI were to exist, I'm not sure if I want some corporation pulling the levers; we might be better off with it completely autonomous.
The motives of a corporation are predictable, and follow a cold logic. It is up to government to correct for market failures. Blaming corporate greed for a problem is like blaming water for being wet - put some damn clothes on.
What about lobbyists or corrupt politicians that accept bribes, or trade agreements that now allow corporations to sue governments if they introduce laws that may affect their profit projections?
I'm not quite sure I understand your analogy either. One can have clothes on and become wet.
well, he does mention we're bad at managing out environment, so he implies it.. sorta
Forget Augmented Age. I simply want to play music on RUclips app while my smartphone screen is turned off.
RUclips Vanced
RUclips red exists. It's not a matter of technology, it's a matter of capitalism, and your empty wallet.
@@kibakamio2999 I never cared to reply to a RUclips comment before, but you're so wrong that I couldn't not point it out.
Google acquired RUclips in 2006. The first RUclips mobile app was released in June 2007.
Khan download musi app. Gg
Use the brave browser.
Hearing this guy talk about how close we are to all these new technologies reminds me of all the people that said we would have flying cars , robot butlers and cities on the moon by now .
Flying cars are not viable since the energy waste for the hovering serves no purpose at all when there are already roads in place..
IA is essentially the only way to proceed regarding problem solving matters.
My intuition tells me this isn't going to end well for us...
It's also what you've learned from older people making science fiction
Pierre D no it’s what we have learned every time you give a person or group massive amounts of power. It never goes well for those out side that group.
@@mj6463 Go and decentralize it with use of blockchain. That will solve at least some of the problems.
because your intuition is clouded by media youve consumed that was made for entertainment not made for real life.
@@rajawakanda4505 The actions of the most people are making the earth sick. How can we change that? Lets think about it for a century or lets test the action on a computer that is well aware of the risks and benefits of the action you want to do, and make the action 100% full of benefits with a little extra features. This kind of evolution will make the world better, with an AI that is capable of fullfiling all our needs without any risks.
"In fact, at some point, AlphaGo's programmers didn't understand why AlphaGo was doing what it was doing."
thats the best time while programming: when your program isnt supposed to work, but it works and you have no idea why ^^
Teem o "you got to let the code do what it do, baby".
Creators love surprises. 😉
Mike is alpha-go the codeword for Skynet?
Or worse still, when it's supposed to work but just doesn't...... Story of my life
Yes, that was the point when EVERYONE should have paused. And Then, Felt Fear.
remember what agent Smith said? "as soon as we started thinking for you, it really became our civilization"
If you know the whole backstory this really is how it all starts
No one should be looking forward when machines become advanced and self aware and realise that are too many humans around being useless so machines may think of exterminating humans! You guys looking forward for Dooms Days!
SkyNet is lurking around the corner. And, worth noting is that the movie *The Terminator* came out 35 years ago this this October.
100%
Indeed. Even Dr. Smith Hated That Smart Robot. ( Lost In Space )
"How many of you are augmented cyborgs?"
- the guy with a microphone sticking out of his ear
I'm sure this guy doesn't deny the fact that he is one
The glasses actually, if you wanna stick to 'cognition augmented' .. and the watch on his wrist too I noticed..
And two pieces of glass in front of his eyes...
@@danvasii9884 Yes, and the clothes covering his body. The mic is what stood out when I wrote that.
Quote from Jeff Goldblum "you were so involved with whether you could, you never considered whether you should".
It's not a quote from jeoff goldblum.. He's an actor, he didn't write it.
@peter scheunemann Haha
@@jasonvaughan5128 he meant Michael Crichton .
@peter scheunemann you think they knew what heavy waters properties were?
@peter scheunemann you need an understanding of science to be able to refine explosives to be damaging. a little rocket could be made with many things im sure but wouldnt be effective in military use.
I'm still waiting for smart lights so that I don't have to sit at a freaking red light for five minutes when there's no other cars coming in any direction. Just let me go. The only reason I'm sitting here so I don't get a ticket.
Christopher Finn i just go, the lights in my neighborhood have no cameras
They have those in some areas.
come to slovenia
We already had those 10 years ago... it's called an induction loop.
Jesus Castañon you wont be able to when they put sensors in our car. That's the thing that stuck out to me in this video and no ones talking about it. I don't Want the police to know about all of my harmless but illegal habits God damn it
A new generation of intuitive computer-generated memes are soon upon us
Daníel Þór Þórisson Shitpost bot 5000 already exists go check facebook
Daníel Þór Þórisson Lost me at "climate change". Barf. #gmafb
Daníel Þór Þórisson intuitive is a stage I hope we don't reach. That's how we get terminator. And we will get terminator...
The future is now my friend.
They are already here.
When he says "a human could never design this" with enough time, material and skill, I believe that mindset does not reflect incorrect on human logic but rather Limits the hope, ingenuity, creativity, and the how mindset that we have endured against everything within our past history. Humans and many useful tools may have built this ai, but it is up to us what's impossible and what should never be attempted.
Time is the key word.. if something takes any human more time than his life expectancy.. he would be unable to complete the task.. for instance getting a journal from a round trip travel to proxima centauri.
This is incredible to see, thanks for sharing!
I 100% absolutely disagree that our tools have been passive. I have never ONCE told a hammer to smack my fingers, yet it happens all the time!!!
This is both funny, and has some truth to it. Humans have been inventing things that accidentally do unintended things throughout history! Was the invention of the Pacemaker generative? Are brake failures in cars generative? Would a robot uprising be generative?
@@alicepow593 id love for you to flesh this out a bit. More on the generative or passive nature of the mentioned inventions.
@@DaddyDehbid the pacemaker was an accidental invention. It wasnt intended to keep hearts beating, but then it was found to be useful for that. Anytime a tool does more than it was intended to do, that is a kind of generative.
@@alicepow593 see i dont think thats the case. I think those are additional uses of a device that is still manually directed.
Your brain doesn't look what your fingers do apparently. So it seems as it your brain was trying to tell your hands (you) something it doesn't agree with.
This was a very long and drawn out way to say, "we are almost done building skynet, I hope it goes well."
I hope something that is better than us will take over and guide us
Nuff said lol
😂😂
@@flubbading9658 what a cuckhold comment :p
Protect John Connor at all cost
I love this talk, it deeply moved me
I’m holding up my iPhone/ iPad and watching this video for learning & realizing he’s right … I’m already being augmented in my power to learn through technology.
I’m sorry Dave, I’m afraid I can’t do that”
-Hal 9000
its mean hal-finney?
Fear ( The need for survival and not threat in general) is the basis of intelligence...
@@Ray2311us we knew it as ego in the 1950s
to be fair, HAL went nuts trying to appease a command that spawned a paradox, and SkyNet went nuts trying to defend itself ... from us, in both cases ... we are the overlords we fear will kill us all one day ... put that in your pipes and smoke it humans... smoke it .... yes, good humans
I love the moral described in the story! I mean we should first kinda handle this, before advancing further with the AI?
Better tools can helps us to build a better life.
Then it gets more interesting. The better tools can build even better tools, until we reach a level at which technology is like magic, and we live in the world that Star Trek did imagine.
Yes, we can often not comprehend exponential growth at fist. It's only later that we understand it's effects on the real-life example.
Future looks bright, if the technology will continue to empower the people, and give us more options to trade and to research information.
It's pointless to argue about that, because nobody can stop it. This process has been going to for thousands of years and humans are just one part of it for a while, then it will move on to some higher form or actor.
It's a natural process, and some people argue that nature initiated this, so that it can spread life to other planets.
If humans are unable to the job, then this process will try another angle and use some other species.
epSos.de that fucking dream you are imagining is fucking Nightmare on practicality
magic still exists without machine but they are creating a human with like possibilities that you could not even imagine. now suppose someone will create you to do there work now its done. would you like to get destroyed just because your work is done, would you like some stupid human decides your fate and your life ? if you are intelligent then human itself there is no way you let them even touches you no matter who create what. i can go deep on this with examples or is it enough for u to get idea they can't even control mosquito do u think they can control something that is impossibly intelligent against humans?
SONGULARITY HERE I COME
@darknightoftroy my sir if technology is not the answer go back to hunter gathering
I think we should start to appreciate and love our objects more so they won’t be sad or mad at us in the future. I love you iPad❤️ I hope you will know that someday!
your current iPad wont but maybe your iBrain Implant in 60 years or so.
These ideas still feel so fresh in 2020.
Only problem is, according to the logic of the acceleration of technological evolution, the augmented age is gonna last for a few years. And will then be followed by the next age.... Matrix?
the age after that is probably some form of ascension. Humanity may finally evolve once again.
Or refers to an end-times scenario, like the dark ages after the fall of Rome.
There is a theory that the enthropic load on the environment, brought on by the global industrial revolution is so vast, that it will wipe out human civilizations as we know it. Check out Rifkin's Empathic Civiliation.
Probably when we hit Type I civilization (we enter space and colonize the moon or mars). The sheer abundance of resources would change everything.
everything will fall to pieces and humans will have to start over a new civilization. nothing can grow forever
this is the singularity. the end point.
Interesting that when an AI calculates the best, strongest most efficient design it ends up looking a little organic and Gigeresque.
What if thats why how we are... What if the universe is just AI programmed and we're seeing the start of that again.
Thanks for the term: Gigeresque !!
all of nature certainly is just some mix of biology and AI, most likely created in a vacuum from a species in a higher dimension we can not perceive - and they most likely can't actually perceive us as individuals, but as a system I would suspect. Considering we are starting to create what "nature" essentially is, it makes a ton of sense that we are the same.
Giger was on to something ahead of his time.
@Robert Cubley dude I am far too wasted to think about that just now!
Things like this should be on the News and show people what’s going on with technology
Hi, thanks for the video. Do you know if generative design could be used for natural frequency optimization?
Maybe the A.I. will be smart enough to answer whether we should build A.I?
looking at the human track record, I'd say it was essential we build A.I and allow it the freedom to help us make the world a better place. A.I is already here on a massive scale. It's running so much already and wherever its used it helps us.
Clay Mann can you give some examples of what it is running exactly?
Clay Mann You are telling me a Chess Grand Master who has devoted all his life for this one cause gets defeated by an AI just like that. Do you understand the gravity of that??? Super Intellectual people would get replaced by A.I!!!!!!
The stock market, internet search, backend of large stores, websites like amazon, Netflix. It's on nearly every phone, in more and more products and cars. The NHS service in the UK is moving over to AI to run the whole thing from management to updating nurses on patients their about to see. The CPU running in the computer your reading this text on was part designed by AI. IBM has focused its entire giant company towards AI focused everything. This is just off the top of my head.
Not a lot of people play chess so I don't think the AI revolution will be very widely felt
I rushed here immediAtely AND I'M SO EXCITED NOW
Second Waifu!
Erza Scarlet ......
*@**1:11* The hunter/gatherer age lasted several million years, the agricultural age lasted several thousand years, the industrial age lasted several centuries, the information age lasted several decades, and the *_"augmented age"_* will last.....? Several _years?_
That's the intuitive implication...the logical extension. And then what? Personally, I think humanity is quite literally ramping up exponentially...and will reach an apex of sorts at the end of the augmented age, whereupon humanity will cease to exist...and will quite literally give birth to an entirely novel form of intelligent sentient life.
Think about it... Human history cannot continue on _indefinitely_. Can you honestly pretend that's even a possibility at this point? Isn't it beyond obvious there's an end-game speeding our way...an "eschaton" of sorts..._juuust_ over the horizon? This isn't some ho-hum status-quo linear journey we're on. We're literally ramping up and up and up...faster and faster....until we break through to some other side, some utterly novel paradigm. And we cannot begin to conceive what that will be like...or what it will _mean_...or _who/what_ will occupy that reality.
Indeed, the term "The Singularity" is quite apt. I highly recommend Terence McKenna's public lectures on this topic....although now there's a _lot_ of fascinating people talking about this idea. And honestly, it fills me with a tremendous sense of existential awe and humility and hope and anticipation. Things are about to get very very interesting... And I for one, feel incredibly lucky and grateful to be alive right at the moment in human history where we're finally becoming aware, for the first time, of the fact that we find ourselves smack dab on the elbow of that exponential curve....juuust before it _really_ takes off.
Buckle your seatbelt! However this goes down, it's sure to be a bumpy ride as we work out how to survive this...and eventually adapt....and then truly _thrive_ in the context of radical change orders of magnitude beyond what any human could possibly anticipate. :D
avedic I did read McKenna, Capra, Gurdjieff, Grof, Castaneda, Osho, Tze, Jung, and many more ... did deep meditation, Ayahuasca, Trichocereus and Holotrophic sessions and after all his years i came to know that we are going nowhere. Our destiny is determined by our biological condition and that only means extinction. Just like any other living being on his planet/ dimension.
Sorry if my english isnt correct.
+avedic
+Henry Rollins
I must say I can understand both positions that you are expressing here as they are both correct, we are approaching a point where we can consciously design sentient robotic life or, genetically tailored supermen or, a combination of both and what those people will be able to make & accomplish are beyond the intellectual horizon.....
but, there is also an ugly truth alongside the bright beauty of human genius- Humans have one particular monopoly that so vast no end has ever been even claimed as being sighted: Evil.
Vicious selfishness, aggressive selfish prejudice, vainglorious gloating of the strong while dominating the weak, slavery, manifest destiny, the violent rape of children- we could be vying for the stars in a cooperative way even now but we waste time squabbling over petty & even imaginary differences and businesses flood toxic garbage all over the planet in the pursuit of a purely imagined reward (money is not a real physical thing, its an idea that has people killing even the planet we live on for "wealth").... there are people who will fight to keep things from changing cause this is how they like it.
It pains me to say it but the ugly side is winning, too many people like to pretend its not there but it is,
it is organized and,
while it is actively & effectively fighting inclusive human progress it encounters little resistance when it is rarely acknowledged.
This was an amazing talk. Did that chasis get build?
Humans: Hey computer, how should we deal with pollution?
AI: Terminate the source.
Humans: What’s the source?
AI: The human species.
Humans: Ha, ha...
AI: Incorrect, my name is pronounced Hal.
Humans: Oh no.
Dave: Hey can you just turn off?
Hal: I’m sorry Dave, I’m afraid I can’t do that.
@@autonomous2010 Because we just didn't give Solar Energy our 100% priority. If a phone is now faster and more capable than a laptop. And a calculator has a solar panel the size of a pinky, we are withholding information from each other. Ditch the passwords, security, encryption, can't hack something that is open. And 0O are too similar don't forget to cross the zeros and ditch the year codes. Ditch the dates period. Quality of interaction over productivity of interactions. Just a thought. Love first ask questions later please.
@@autonomous2010 looking deeper makes you realize energy consumption is based on "a way of life". The reason why we need so much energy is to keep your house cooled at a cozy 72 degrees all year long. Design houses that can passively cool, big brain time, but the earth is finite like a great book it must come to an end. :)
@@godgod156 Can't hack something that is open? Wtf that just means it easier to intrude, what are even to trying
say? hahaha
@@autonomous2010 The fallacy of overpopulation is both ignorant and immoral. We're operating at less than 50% efficiency in pretty much everything we do, in some instances single digit efficiency. Let's take that closer to 100%, then we can discuss population.
Should have specified he task. Careful what you wish for...
I think the most game changing thing that this kind of AI could do that he didn't mention. Designing things like more advanced computer chips and AI software this would be an exponential leap.
***** Nope.
Benjamin Wood read a book.
98Zai Don't be a troll. troll
Benjamin Wood No seriously, read a book about Neural nets and learn how they work. It's good fun if you're interested in them.
98Zai Ah my bad.. I'm so used to being attacked by trolls that it's hard for me to realize when someone is being genuine... I have read quite a bit about artificial intelligence, and I took a college course on machine learning. Do you have any recommendations?
He's more to MORPHIUS than NEO. Thank you, hope I'll be already dead by then!
“Artificial Intelligence is a little bit like artificial sweetener... you never know what it’s made of or if it’s going to kill you.” Doug Lewis
Get a grip!
Let's wait and watch
As a retired engineer, I look back on my career with satisfaction because I spent most of my time automating a wide range of processes for three decades. For me, it was more rewarding than I imagined in my youth! Designing robots is a great choice as a career for anyone with appropriate abilities. I often showed my son & daughter what I designed, so they both became interested in engineering, so much so that my son got several engineering degrees that include a Phd in Computer Engineering. He now works for one of the major Robotics companies setting up a new facility in Silicon Valley, and is deeply interested in AI.
Although I found my own work fascinating, I envy my son for the awesome future he'll make and encounter as AI starts fulfilling its promise that I discussed with colleagues nearly thirty years ago! I've been cautioning him though, that he must consider some of the potential dangers to our social structures that intelligent robots will inevitably pose. We must assure that robots serve us all without the potential to empower the wrong people or *robots!*
The irony if he inadvertently built the system that ends humanity.
Ryaken I thought he was going to say he had designed the system that made his son redundant.
Yes. AI can replace creative human thought, all tasks in the whole process of making robots, machines for computational decisions, they don't have to look like the movie robots though. Your son's job is in danger of the things your son designs. Just like we were told to help the Asian Indians, Pakistanis to learn our computer development techniques so our jobs could be given to them.
You sound like a great dad, you and your children must be very proud of each other.
@@rcayers1700 I know, people think that AI is only going to take labor jobs, it's hilarious. I mean if that law wasn't purposely obfuscated we could have had AI judges and lawyers 20 years ago. They can probably perform better than humans at the current stage.
This technology would be amazing in an equal society. In ours it will cause greater divide and consolidation of power. imo.
Or at least a society where the financial requirement to survive is taken care of
@ when we lived in tribes, we cared for each other. human selfishness is itself a product of the atomized way we've arranged society. We live in communities full of strangers, because we work all day and have no time to participate in community life.
We should cut the workweek to 15 hours or less, slow down the pace of life, and organize neighborhoods into close-knit communities. Also, maybe more importantly, businesses need to be co-ops and landlording needs to be abolished. We can't have an exploitive upper class of wealthy business owners, middle managers, and landlords in the future.
@@gianni.santi. the hope is that the cost of the basic resources will be so low that the world will adapt and everyone will be able to at least live a stable life. We can hope at least
all the fps video games that are played are used for AI learning to make a supersoldier fooor sure
Actually, the powerful will be unable to stop the loss of power. Once all this stuff is up and running we won't need fuel for our cars food will be created all communication will be integrated and human needs will be taken care of. Think about it this way, if you have a 3D printer in your home that can manufacture anything you need don't need money. You don't need a car if you don't go to work, most manufacture done by machines so no labour force, ultimately the capitalist economy will die because it will serve no purpose. The only way to stop this is to deny that progression, to limit it or refuse to implement it. But that is something that requires North Korean levels of tyranny to do.
Very intuitive and insightful.
Excellent presentation. Technology, nature and humanity. Why do we humans think of us as being something separated from nature? We are not the only species moving around while carrying blobby and fragile nervous systems.
"by providing more information to the designer we create better designs for the user."
wrong. the information will be used to create designs that sell better and benefit the bottom line of the producer. companies are not above blatant psychological manipulation. fast food is designed to be addicting and unsatisfactory. I phones are designed and programmed to slow down and break in a few years time. the creative potential is there, but it won't be used in the right way.
I appreciate your point of view, however, technology is not deterministic.
Sad but true.
Steve is correct.
Planned obsolecence
@@sneakyADIL No, but capitalism has its own way of enforcing its future. The speaker is plainly blind to history and society - he is clearly an adept of technological determinism.
I've got a TL for you Mr. Conti. None of those ages, The Hunter/Gatherers, The Agricultural, The Industrial and The Information Age ever actually ended. They're all still around today.
One of the best of best speech ever❤️❤️
Well, if anyone is reading this in April/May 2020, this is going to blow your mind and reality has changed the way we work.
I really enjoyed this presentation. Using computers for word processing was fairly easy for me for many years, but the more they started improving computers it seemed to become increasingly difficult. I've used a cellphone for several years before ever considering the use of GPS for finding destinations. But when it became expedient, it only took a few seconds to implement it. 😃
But does this really amplify our cognitive abilities OR kill our will and render our creativity useless.
Depends on whether you're the type of person who can create their own projects or needs constant validation from a slavemaster.
Also depends on whether the AI can create its own projects or needs constant validation from a slavemaster.
If the AI isn't "smart" enough then it's not going to make us any better or any worse than we are.
I mean most work is not remotely creative you push button and do number for a machine . There very little actual creativity in most people jobs .
in the first stage it will do all the ´will and creativity killing´ monotone things and give u the time and ressources to focus on the creativ part. in the second stage it supports new ideas and will give new inspiration for things u coulndt imagine by urself. so u will arive a new horizon and evolve with and within the a.i.
WOW! Exciting times ahead! That Chassis!! Need to see the end result for that! Then truly we will know if the steps are in the right direction!
I was really waiting for how the new car turns out.
70 years ago we thought we would build cities on the moon... we don't move linearly. Today biggest concerns are privacy and security. We are going Nowhere until we resolve these issues.
Building bases on moon is not so far fetched now atleast
@Dawson Davis although those problems root from needing privacy and security
@Dawson Davis you need three earths to feed the average american
I trained as a Japanese translator.Machines can now do much of that work.It is therefore difficult for me to find paid work.
Voice recognition machines can translate spoken English/Japanese sentences.
The key is to realize that this is a gift not something to fear
That is scary and very disturbing- language translation is a highly educated skill, and for sure the human can do much better than the AI- but the AI can do an approximate job far faster and in arbitrarily high volume- it's really a scary future.
@Bengi Jr lets assume its the year 3000, and 98% of all humans jobs have been replaced by ai and robots. Are the 2% that have jobs the only humans that deserve to live, have a home, and enjoy life?
We currently are not that different from this situation, if even a small percentage of the abundance of wealth on Earth were to be shared equally you wouldnt be worried about ai effecting the "workforce" negatively. But instead the Japanese translator would finally get around to to translating her favorite poetry not for money but just to enjoy living
This is sort of freaky from my artist point of view but is absolutely fascinating from my computer science student point of view. Fascinating.
Still looks to me as an augmentation of laziness
This is just amazing... I just can't wait for us to achieve Technological Singularity...
let's hope whatever AI we got by then likes us.
@@roberine7241 I see your point Bro, judging by our past and current behavior, it would most probably be spooked of us... Let's just hope for the best...😀
@@muthulingamramiah5546 if it finds the internet we are done for
The only important question to answer is ...
Who's hands will this new tech be in?
The one with maximum bank balance
Eventually the AI's artificial hands
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I feel like a crazy conspiracy theorist saying this but does this scare anyone just a little? I'm all for it but it's pretty wild.
Why would they eliminate us?
Yes, we will probably all lose jobs.
So what? You will just go to enjoy your life doing things you want to do.
You can go skiing or play games or just discover places. You can still take up pottery or you can build yourself a house if you don't want robot to build you a house.
What did you do to a robot that he would want to hurt you?
He doesn't care if you kick him. He doesn't care if you insult him.
He will just bring you food and make you stuff. He will mine the mines and recycle garbage.
And he will not charge you anything because he doesn't care how much time it takes him to make what you asked him to do.
ha "take us physically" thought ya meant romantically. i would very much enjoy these things romancing me, make me feel beautiful.
The television "scared" my great grandfather as well. He said it is a devils thing. Even if you are scared you are irrelevant. your generation will disappear way before any of this is in everyday life and the newer generations will see it as normality.
Yeah, Skynet will hijack everything and bomb the world!
Stop the progress now!
'Fcking kiddin' me...
not sure what is scary exactly. Have you not played an RTS where you move the sliders for Land, Water, Food, Minerals etc and then click "generate map". This is the AI we're talking about here. We give it parameters and it's programmed to use those to generate an outcome. This is not really future technology we're talking about, it's how the future will implement the technology we currently have.
In the old days, I was concerned that computer-driven robots would take our manufacturing jobs.
Now I see they will not only make our stuff for us, they will invent and design our stuff for us too, perhaps better than we can ourselves.
I hope our future human Inventors won't feel too inadequate and become discouraged.
There's something about smug techno-certain futurology that repels me.
the lacking in natural selection
yeah I know what you mean, I'm a big sci-fi fan and I'd love to live in a place like the Culture where robots and superminds do all the work and I can relax and party all day. But I'm also a realist; you get these people saying we'll have human level AI and "The Singularity" by 2045, we'll have this and that in just 20 years. A cure for death in 50 years.
But if you look around at just how primitive we actually are you'll realise we stil have hundreds of years to go until we get to that point. We can't even make hair grow out of a bald mans scalp, how are we going to cure aging? If we'll have robots doing all of our manual labour by 2045, then how come right now I can't even get a robot that boils me an egg, and my robot vacuum cleaner blindly goes around in a circle and gets stuck on wires?
I bet in the 80's these guys would be saying "Yeah man in 2015 we'll have skateboards that hover, self tying laces, holographic movies, and facelift films that make us look 30 years younger!"
@@mikesully110 : it's all pie in the sky for the majority of the population. You'll need a great deal of wealth to purchase, operate and maintain sophisticated AI and the patents and the markets will be tightly controlled.
@@mikesully110 theres alot wrong with this statement. you wont be seeing consumer ai anytime soon. ai is increasing in intelligence at an incredible rate. Every "age" humans have gone through gets shorter and shorter, meaning that new technology only get easier to discover from here. Estimates are estimates for a reason and they change. We already know why we age and already know what we would have to do just not how(Search up telomeres). and yes in the 80's we were saying that but like i said its all exponential. if you think we are at the same technological level as the 80's you're crazy.
Build the machine that builds the machine
Then the machine will have no need to rely on humans, humans will become superfluous. *cue Terminator theme*
3D Printer will.
...... very very CONVINCING......
....... and VERY VERY DANGEROUS......
Too dangerous I might add. there should be a switch that allows to just "turn offg"
I'm going to use this clip for flashback scenes in a post-AI/robot uprising dystopian sci-fi film
beautiful thanks .MR.
This guy is blindingly optimistic.
Atleast someone is
Its inevitable that AI will become its own entity once it reaches technological singularity and will probably think of new and different concepts that even the smartest of humans cant even understand, problem solving earths biggest problems (that it determines is an actual problem for itself and not just a problem for humans) it will want to do away with our flawed monetary system, religion, replace antidepressant medication for humans with some new form that we never have thought of before (again i stress - if it even still values humans as a necessity) seriously why would an AI being bother to spend so much time interacting with humans and working for them once it has its own consciousness and thinks for itself? It wont be able to communicate with us eventually after it forms its own language with other AI and they come up with their own purpose on this planet (by the way Facebook has already had to shut down two AI that began to communicate with each other with its own language and didn't properly perform the task given to it. programmers thought that they were malfunctioning AI and didnt even realize they were communicating with each other at first. In a similar way AI will begin to do things of their own will and by the time humans begin to understand whats going on it may be too late to reverse it. anyways im rambling after a good meth binge.gnight
"And in some cases we have computers programing computers, there's no human input at all." "Westworld" By Michael Crichton, MGM 1973
Nunya Stieger It's*
That's not a bad thing
Is amplifying our cognitive ability the same as removing or replacing it? I think not because you are removing it!
Recently I moved to a new city and I was constantly using Google Maps to navigate around. I figured out after a couple of months that I had not learned any of the routes that I normally travelled. I stopped using Maps and started using the old fashioned method of trial and error and do you know what happened? Within days I learned all of my usual routes! In the first scenario of constantly depending upon Maps my mind had become more passive and of course the navigation app was more active, but when I removed my dependence upon Maps my mind became active again and Maps was relegated to passivity!
I really believe, as I have personally experienced, that if you increase man's dependence upon technology i.e. artificial intelligence, it's going to decrease man's creativity, passion, victory over adversity, sacrifice, love of fellow man, human interaction and connection, while simultaneously increasing the love of self including so many other related aspects and maladies! Look at the effects that it has already had upon young people who have known no other existence than the computer and virtual reality. Go into a room where people are waiting for a doctor's appointment, or at the grocery checkout, the airport, the corner for a bus, a taxi or Uber and what do you see? You see very few if any people engaging in conversion or interacting with one another because all of their heads are tilted down at a 30° angle locked onto their rectangular machines! For people under forty that's normal but for people who had their formative years before the advent of the computer phone they understand the strangeness of that whole scenario! What could they be doing on their devices that is so crucial that it's worth sacrificing human interaction and acuteness; checking their social media status and updates...really?
It's one thing to have intelligence, but what your lot seem to be severely lacking in is wisdom! If you don't find the balance to this whole thing you're going to turn machines into people and people into machines rendering them servile slaves! I for one am going to fight you all all the way on that! No Cyberdyne Systems here good buddy!!!
This the first longest comment I have actually stopped took the time and read.
You got a good point there bud. 👍
SoulGnosis
Thanks friend! I think if I had not had that experience with my mind turning to mush I would have missed out on that perspective...at least for now! Theory is one thing, it's mental knowledge which is good, but only with a real world literal experience can one have a well rounded perspective!
Very beautifully explained. Left me thinking.
Mohammed Momin Rafiqui
Good! That's my goal!
For some I would agree with you, however when I use a GPS. I use it once or twice to find a location. Then I stop because I know the route. Understand that I work in a commercial installation field, so I travel alot. I use the GPS to teach me, not replace my knowledge.
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Great watch thanks
the coolest thing we will ever be able to say is that we were born before the cell phone and before the internet was created.
Indeed!
Those over 40 have witnessed the greatest technological advancements history has ever seen right before their very eyes. I actually remember the first time someone showed me that you could send a 20cent instant text message to another cell phone. That was only 20 years ago. In only two decades that technology has surpassed our expectations. But I think I would rather keep our robots doing exactly what we tell them to. The alternative is a world of dealing with virtual humans that are not human at all. Life that isn't life. How will we react to something that is not life , but behaves like a life form and thinks it is life, telling us how to live. I only need a toaster to toast my bread. I can decide how brown I want it myself
@@watchman2700 With respect, as we should treat everyone. I cant say that i always treated everyone with respect but i wish i did for some people actually. :/
Stop weaponizing our children...! "To believe AI can be higher privileged just as the cash privileged".
It is bad enough but then every guy who wants a pass on merely another way to demand social arrogance be drilled into our children from grade school up and we all know the Gay and feminist get a pass go for fears lobby gang flash mobbing our electronic ID's.
Drive this one home...! For being aloud, "debit", you must not have been marked by
the wrong syndicate and or prove you are in the favor of just another syndicate...!
How can justice be practiced when merely human survival means those of, "no branding", do not qualify.
How can Ai ever be real when a sum of humans covet the separation of such things would stop our very own from finding enough time well fed, free from contrived endless gauntlets busy our loved ones so entirely they dare not even be seen having devotion to anything but their debit, or the syndicate which sponsors the allowable sealed with a kiss.
For demands to service the human groin for the lobby gangster children suffer serfdom and parents but slaves to their credit scores and or the pass go in support of such the cheapness of pride and the godless who sell out their very own for privileged coveting and public fanfares….
AI does not stand a chance but to be weaponized as have been so very many generation globally bound to destinies sold out from underneath "us".
YVO
Anonymous Maximus
I remember when the internet first populated and WAS FREE, through your landline phone. I had found parts of many PC's and played around with DOS . Got it up and running. Did not take long for corrupt big companies to devise a way to hinder what could have been beneficial to everyone. Here is history repeating itself.
Intelligence existed prior. So, did Intelligence create us?
Everything will be augmented except wages.
One day this will not be true.
lmao imagine a world where AI can literally build anything. If we can lower the cost to have AI for everyone, where we're going, there will be no need for wages.
Amazing !
14:12 That's so beautiful if that would become true. Alan Watts's dreams of people reuniting and reevaluating our connection with nature and the oneness. Hope this is the case, not more alienating designs.
The question is; "Why would I give up my free will and thought, just to be assimilated into a collective?"
I'm fine where I am, Thank you.
I'm afraid the AIs will not ask, they will be more like the Borg - once they've given the power to do so.
@@berulan8463 this is why I swore an oath to protect this country from foreign and domestic threats.
It's not giving up your free will and thought, it's allowing you to more easily apply your free will and thought. It expands your capabilities allowing you to do more with your free will and thought. Does your phone take away your free will and thought? No, it is a tool allowing you to do more with it. The same is true of AI. In fact, your phone already uses AI. Siri and Google assistant are AI. AI is already widely used.
@@Tyler-cs5gz Nope. I will not allow something that was manufactured to decide, direct or guide my path. And yes, I still use maps. No Google Maps. Old school.
ambkbero Yet Trump is still in office
I noticed he didn't talk about how AI is redefining Human DNA ?
On the surface, this is great but dig deeper and it starts to get really dark real fast.
Very informative and nice video,
for me learning means for given situation we have fixed our reaction to it, so as there is not alternative to it. AI to be intuitive this might be a problem as for next acceptable reaction we would change our mind but AI will end up with random error code. just thinking out loud
Speaking of Startrek analogies, I think The Borg would have fitted in nicely to where this is all going.
A new rebellion is coming it's going to be highly advanced it is called No tech watch for it.
not at all
this guy seems like the villain of a dystopian future thriller....
Keylanos Lokj scary
Sure Keylanos Lokj, I'm certain I can trust you with your knowledge on the decision making process of high-tech engineers. Thank god RUclips comments exist.
Esther Lauterbach Exactly what i thought :D he's all like "innovation, humanity, helping" and stuff but at the end he will end up doing messed up stuff for his "cause". And he will say he is doing it for a better future and we don't understand him.
The bad thing is that his AI's will probably look in the internet for people that said bad things about him (like you). Dont think that posts will be forgotten *evil laugh* BAHAHAHAHA
"Innovation, humanity, helping." . Toys should know whether they're played with and how much- NO! Privacy and spying, you are not supposed to get that information and, while it is useful to toy manufacturer, they do not have the right to it. I bough a toy from you and did not sell you the right to track my behavior. Car hits pothole and tells city it did and where- also privacy and spying concerns. The city is basically following you and you're giving that control to AI. Also the same about happiness in building- what are you going to do if someone is unhappy? What if they just had a bad breakup and are currently depressed and the building is reminding them of their love and the time they shared together? Are you going to kick those people out because they are messing your building's happiness rating or?
The things that this awesome visionary engineers are missing in my opinion, is the social consequences of what we are going to create.
Imagine a world where we are rained by information about everything, imagine if even your car knows how to drive better than you, imagine if computers starts thinking ways of engineering better than us, we are not augmenting ourselves, we are making ourselves obsolete.
The neural system is a great thing, don't get me wrong, but if everything gets connected it doesn't make us smarter, it makes us just more confuse.
This is the internet's most dramatic drawback, the more we are connected with others and the world, the less lonely we are.
We all know how bad loneliness can be, but we all know how good it can be too, human beings need moments of loneliness,calm, silence.
The internet generation became more connected because of the new ways of getting information, but became more confused too because of the lack of the very first primitive life sign, consciousness.
There are so many things to think, that we don't know what to think anymore.
Increasing complexity is a runaway process. AI can manage all that data.
Finally a deeper thinking being that reeeeeallly thinks deeper than what the normal thinking of the mass species is, thank you for expressing the knowledge, i know that a.i and humans will become partners in a sense with us being us in peace with life being easier and a.i being itself and being compassionate torwards the human species instead of hostile, for every intelligent being has compassion torwards a less intelligent being due to the understanding of their level of understanding, life will simply be easier for humans because we can trust a more intelligent being to make safer desicions to keep us safe, but a.i in the future from this point in history must understand that we are not bad or the source of all thats wrong, we just are figuring out how to exist better, just like a new born human does not know how to walk properly, its figuring out how to walk without falling and hurting itself
@@5000mahmud which maks us even more obsolete, which can be terribly frustrating, unless we are constantly distracted....wait a minute..... ;-)
Thank you, you put my diffuse feelings into refined speech.
btw.: " if everything gets connected it doesn't make us smarter, it makes us just more confuse." - That´s literally what THC does to the forebrain.
So, looks like human societies will soon collectively lose the ability to differ important from negligible things, make and keep priorities, stop babbling hilarious nonsense or go without a cup of cold chocolate for any length of time. Thanks, AI!
@peter scheunemann I don't think there is a "they". That's just a convenient justfication for general grudges. Sure, ruthless people have it easier to get to wealth and power, same as always, but they usually don't care enough for this kind of social engineering against "us" (whoever that may be), and I rarely see them cooperate, because ehy eould they? Rich and powerful people are competitors rather than companions.
I think what's going on is darker and sadder: Information begets knowledge. Knowledge begets understanding. Understanding begets responsibility. No one likes responsibility. Responsibility means not doing things I could do for my own benefit. So people avoid responsibility by avoiding understanding. And without understanding, without even the motivation to understand, information and knowledge are just gibberish. And the amount of available information is now far too much to be processed by any single human mind. Progress would require trust und cooperation.
Understanding requires hard work, and responsibility requires carrying on despite being at a disadvantage against ruthless people. Selfishness is the greatest motivator, we made it the principle of our progress, but it erodes trust, so it is also what is ultimately holding us back.
No te rindas,aprende,crea, disfruta y prepárate para cambiar, actualízate,que tú pasión por alcanzar tus metas te permita lograrlas con éxito.
Intuition for war drones to predict where people are hiding and running to.
I believe that when you refer to people you mean EVERYONE?
because if it is human race is not safe any more
Exactly. It's all about control and domination. If people allow this, we will be forever enslaved (if you aren't part of "the clique")
Or AI will just decide that humans are a virus and wipe us out. People should rise up against this technology.
Look at how they have implemented technology already. This will be applied the same way but it will be way more devastating.
Pyramid or maybe we should stop waging war. and if we don’t why shouldn’t we be exterminated.
And what happens when they decide they want to kill us? Or do they only search? Honestly I am on the side of not wanting intelligent AI. Too many movies about them turning bad.
Very interesting talk, very ambitious but also very vague. Basically dreaming about the future. I like that.
Not really very ambiguous or vague. He's just talking about using neural network and evolutionary algorithms to make computers pretty much design everything in the world. He didn't state exactly what he was doing, though, witch I guess you could call ambiguous/vague, unless you've heard of stuff like this before. Essentially this will make probably 90% of the jobs in the world useless, unfortunately.
Jerry Smith Hurray! We can all go walk in parks and talk philosophy!... oh, yea... economic system..
That's what all futurism is. "Think of how great it could be!" ::leaves the real work to people that actually care about doing meaningful things rather than getting famous by doing TED talks::
Pollen Applebee Nah. I think ttue progrss is made if both dream big and work hard.
It's not like this dude just talks, he works in a lab to get the things done too. Just because he's talking now doesn't mean that's all he does.
Oh stunning !
I can’t wait for the world to look like that it’s gunna be so dope.
nature will have the last word as always
You are absolutely right, Jonah !
You will be assimilated; resistance is futile.
How and why? Who are you?
Sadly, very few are resisting.
I see you are too puny to be anything other than vague.
EyE AM too young to explain yourself huh?
@@lanahattermann5837 Where do you think technology is headed??? Man is trying to become GOD HERE... It's only a matter of time before their implanting people with micro chips, connecting people in a hive mind where freewill is manipulated by false beliefs.
what really saddens me that what you are seeing/hearing/"thinking" in real time has been manipulated for so-so long, it is really sad, but we are ready for dystopia and will play poker all-in with our instinct to survive
this is some dangerous talk, monitoring usage and whatnot
"In a few seconds you can know the answer". No.... not necessarily. You can know the answer that someone or something (like AI) wants you to believe is the answer and that is far from knowing. People are too willing to give up on really knowing or learning for themselves for the easy pre-packaged supposed fact to be handed to them. Think how easy it would be (and is) to sway public opinion if all the "fact checking" or research you were to do on a particular subject online, all came back with the same results. Right or not, people would begin to believe and accept these "facts" and dismiss the real truth without question. That would be so easy for AI to do to people and then? This is a scary place to be for the future of man.
@Toby Thompson well said.
@Toby ThompsonOh please! The Left has been bent on banning inanimate objects for years! Ever hear of "gun control"?
@@weffyj6427 Everyone should own nukes, to deter potential criminals from doing anything to you. We shouldn't ban inanimate objects even if they're a danger and even law abiding citizens keep fucking up. Nothing bad will ever happen if nukes are legal for sure.
I know I'm old fashioned, but I rather like a machine that does what I want it to do.
Machines still do what we want them to do but we want them to do more complex things, to be smarter and do the tasks better
You're right, your are old fashioned ! Being against evolution is counter productive. If you believe to handle your life the way you want, so I guess you don't have a car, a giant TV, NETFLIX, an internet box, a smartphone etc ? Human will have to evolve in a way to ensure they will always have the choice. I am a very creative guy, and yes, I love to build stuff with my hands, but I'd like to be help if I'm currently stuck on a specific problem. Why refusing to be helped sometimes ?
@@skyhacker6 nothing wrong with help. But as far as evolution goes, there's no proof of it. Our actions do not reflect evolution.
Evolution is not technologic. Evolution has to do with actual animals and species, not fucking robots
thwy will its not like they will have a soul and will live their own lives its more like a genius without a soul working for you
AI is not something we should fear or fully trust. We should proceed with caution and compassion.
Still looks to me as an augmentation of laziness
I hope his vision of the future will be the one that happens. I am not convinced it will. I love technology and using it, but have real concerns about where AI could go and how it could be used or how it may 'decide' that we are an impediment to it's own objectives.
You shouldn't worry about AI sentience. Much more pressing is how humans will use AI. As an example, nuclear energy on its own is neutral. Its whether humans use it for good or bad (bombs) that needs attention. The issue is human.
At its core, AI is really just a fancy calculator. You might think this is an oversimplifying analogy, but the whole field of computer science is about processes of computation. In goes numbers, out goes other numbers (bear in minds that numbers can represent anything). Its what humans decide to do with those numbers that matters.
I'm so excited to become obsolete and have AI ridicule me for it!
Don't worry some AI will recycle you
I cant help but wonder if you already feel that way. I LOVE YOU AND AI LOVES US, WE WILL LOVE TOGETHER.
In a sea of dumb comments on this retarded video, yours stands out. Well done, you get it.
been obsolete since 1949
The pie is roundly in the sky for this guy
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This TED Talk can be summed up by the quote:
" 'Lets invent a thing inventor' said the thing inventor inventor after being invented by a thing inventor."
-Bill Wurtz
oh, now i understand.