Joker SPOILER Review

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  • Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024

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  • @flygonkerel781
    @flygonkerel781 4 года назад +642

    remember when he spared the midget,and told him"you were the only one that was nice to me" that says a lot

    • @serialscholar
      @serialscholar 4 года назад +85

      and he kisses him on top of the head before he leaves...

    • @Merdicano
      @Merdicano 4 года назад +31

      Quite a lot indeed, that shows there's some hope for humanity

    • @tyrant-den884
      @tyrant-den884 4 года назад +24

      scary scene though.

    • @MrSulfor
      @MrSulfor 4 года назад +12

      It was just him feeding his god complex.

    • @Tan87ful
      @Tan87ful 4 года назад +1

      Exactly

  • @joehorne2808
    @joehorne2808 5 лет назад +608

    As depressing and downbeat as it was - I feel like this film could actually have a positive effect on people. Don't abandon those most seriously in need - and be compassionate.

    • @cintsscha5899
      @cintsscha5899 4 года назад +42

      People lack a lot of empathy these days!!! They just dont care!!!

    • @menamgamg
      @menamgamg 4 года назад +23

      I think it's very hard if not impossible for ppl who haven't experienced it to really understand how it feels, but i think this movie portrayed that feeling extremely well. And as you say it may be eye opening for some as It's common to have the mind set of "get over it" when not feeling well mentally, and while that might work for people who are relatively healthy, it definitely does not if you have a depression or a mental illness.

    • @sMASHsound
      @sMASHsound 4 года назад +7

      its a breath of fresh air, we do exist. some one does see us.

    • @Whaddayamean13
      @Whaddayamean13 4 года назад +9

      @@cintsscha5899 Everyone's scared of each other. This divide and conquer the elites have mapped out like chess has worked to perfection. There's millions of people in the same area yet all they do is stare into their phones anymore. Humans walk by you and they dart their eyes down into their screens right away. That's why you have these stupid shootings going on: government control on our lives has created mobs fighting one another constantly and everything becomes politicized.

    • @raf686
      @raf686 4 года назад +9

      I loved the part with the short guy; he was nice to Arthur

  • @Ghostfacekillah1
    @Ghostfacekillah1 4 года назад +979

    People are scared that they’re being portrayed perfectly

    • @foredimples529
      @foredimples529 4 года назад +40

      Exactly

    • @yowhza5383
      @yowhza5383 4 года назад +26

      nailed it

    • @czos9239
      @czos9239 4 года назад +26

      Just a note I'll be stealing this comment the next time someone else posts a 1 degree understanding of this movie that gets under my skin.

    • @Merdicano
      @Merdicano 4 года назад +1

      Completely, just like the Manson women from Once Upon A Time In Hollywood

    • @michaelknight2897
      @michaelknight2897 4 года назад

      How so and which people?

  • @kamranr03
    @kamranr03 5 лет назад +838

    Batman is what Gotham needs, but doesn’t deserve. Joker is what Gotham deserves, but doesn’t need.

  • @MannysBookBag
    @MannysBookBag 5 лет назад +2080

    I love the review but disagree with your take on the ending. That killing of the well-meaning therapist was the most important killing of the film. It conveys the message that he is no longer someone to be sympathized with because he is not killing out of being directly wronged. The killing of innocents directly implies that he is now killing out of satisfaction. It is a purposeful message and a key to character development.

    • @miguelsilva2k
      @miguelsilva2k 5 лет назад +177

      100% agree with you.

    • @eugenesesmaiii3278
      @eugenesesmaiii3278 5 лет назад +77

      I had a similar thought when he didnt kill the little person after killing Randy in his apartment. I almost wanted him to kill him in a way lol bc that would make him truly evil but not killing him kind of makes him sympathetic in a terrible kind of way

    • @cornyboi932
      @cornyboi932 5 лет назад +78

      I don't think it's necessarily out of satisfaction, I think its more like "why not?"

    • @rojorohr4723
      @rojorohr4723 5 лет назад +109

      Yeah, he is doing it becuase he likes it, he feels good doing it, it is who he is now; no more Arthur, only Joker.

    • @BilsonBoi
      @BilsonBoi 5 лет назад +60

      I hope she sees this because it’s a good take on the ending. I more or less agree but I also think it can be a type of resentment, it’s like being angry at getting what you should have had in the beginning now that you’ve caused a scene. It’s like Joker saying “fuck you, didn’t want to help before why should I cooperate now? To make your lives easier? I have a better idea” and yea he’s certainly no one to side with especially now. Maybe you could with Arthur but not Joker

  • @ChocolateThunderBear
    @ChocolateThunderBear 4 года назад +531

    I felt that the last scene was very necessary in showing the Joker is a villain and NOT a sympathetic character.

    • @barkfish6853
      @barkfish6853 4 года назад +34

      I actually agree with this..... and it was super joker ish....is he going to kill or is he going to shake your hand.....you never know with the joker.

    • @NaydenSpirdonov
      @NaydenSpirdonov 4 года назад +3

      I disagree it shows that Joker achieving real freedom and total victory ;)

    • @ratanasorn8080
      @ratanasorn8080 4 года назад +1

      Chocolate ThunderBear he doesn’t need to be therapied

    • @aidanrfleming
      @aidanrfleming 3 года назад +1

      Few people see him as a villain by the end though and don’t really view the psychiatrists death as anything important or necessary, so I feel like it’s less of a problem with the film and more of a problem with the reception, but I’d also like to have the film make him more villainous in some ways, maybe kill more innocent people or something since he’s more revenge driven similar to the likes of John Wick where many people just think it’s cool and great to see this protagonist get back at the people who wronged them...

    • @aidanrfleming
      @aidanrfleming 3 года назад

      @Jose Ramirez I was talking outside of the movie but I get what you’re saying😅

  • @JamesTheEpicGamer
    @JamesTheEpicGamer 5 лет назад +369

    For me; the moment that made the movie was that close shot on his face, as Joaquin Phoenix says “You invited me on this show, to laugh at me.”
    I felt at that moment he showed he really was aware of what was going on, and that was frightening

    • @JamesTheEpicGamer
      @JamesTheEpicGamer 5 лет назад +70

      Knarf Nil I’m just saying it’s scary when you realize he’s not totally crazy and he has an idea of what is going on. I’m not saying his actions were justified.

    • @BilsonBoi
      @BilsonBoi 5 лет назад +25

      Knarf Nil someone like Arthur who can hardly get the girl down the hall to notice him declining his opportunity to appear on live TV to make a “point” on a show him and his mother watched all the time? Why on earth would he do that? He couldn’t ask for a better set up

    • @kevinerose
      @kevinerose 5 лет назад +32

      Me too. It was like he switched from blaming himself for being weak and naive to blaming the actual perpetrators and finding strength in doing so. He switched to Joker mode.

    • @lovipoekimo176
      @lovipoekimo176 4 года назад +9

      Agreed. I was even saying "yeah" while watching that scene. I felt Arthur's anger, and heartbreak for receiving such a mockery from someone he idolized and saw as a sort of Father figure. It was so good.

    • @janfranceldelacerna4834
      @janfranceldelacerna4834 4 года назад +5

      @Knarf Nil That is another reason why it was pitiful because Arthur didn't get the joke was on him until the last part and he didn't take it personally lightly

  • @dunnswood
    @dunnswood 5 лет назад +467

    The scene where he was handed a gun. "I shouldn't have a gun" favorite line

    • @ck_sidekick8306
      @ck_sidekick8306 5 лет назад +37

      And he ends up,using it as a legitimate self defense tool.

    • @oWarlock360o
      @oWarlock360o 4 года назад +21

      Until he Chases them down lol

    • @changgao3816
      @changgao3816 4 года назад +3

      such a good comment on today’s gun control problem.

  • @TheAmericanPrometheus
    @TheAmericanPrometheus 4 года назад +478

    The child that the village does not embrace will burn it down for warmth.
    -African proverb

    • @trayalmigthy1
      @trayalmigthy1 4 года назад +18

      Powerful

    • @nadia4999
      @nadia4999 4 года назад +14

      Kilmonger. The Black panther tried to do just that.

  • @kaiweishen7015
    @kaiweishen7015 5 лет назад +2147

    End scene is like killing joke ending, help came too late, aurthur is a monster now

    • @Vokon
      @Vokon 5 лет назад +79

      wait before the ending scene, when the ambulance car smashes into aurther then he wakes up and dances, was it real or just in his mind?

    • @kevinkarsashy
      @kevinkarsashy 5 лет назад +34

      I think it was on his mind

    • @07samurai85
      @07samurai85 5 лет назад +31

      These comments are getting me even more excited to see this movie 🤗

    • @juanme555
      @juanme555 5 лет назад +182

      @Vokon
      It was obviously real , people recognizing him and cheering him because of his comedy was his mind , people recognizing him and cheering him for his tragedy was reality.

    • @sheltondmello8031
      @sheltondmello8031 5 лет назад +85

      It was real. that's the message of the movie. Society created him

  • @welch_inc6532
    @welch_inc6532 5 лет назад +1030

    This is probably the first time I've seen a version of Gotham that could create a batman.

    • @alazkaalazka6087
      @alazkaalazka6087 5 лет назад +170

      This is what I was saying. U truly feel how grimy & terrible Gotham is in this film.

    • @MrChopsticks1-x6g
      @MrChopsticks1-x6g 5 лет назад +13

      Welch_inc I would like to know what your take on the batman would be in the universe. Got some training, not too far off but the Batsuit. If there’s going to be a Batman, I’m pretty sure he’s going to wear the same thing as Daredevil’s first costume, just a rag over his face and his prototype utility belt.

    • @clee89
      @clee89 5 лет назад +3

      Wow. I had the opposite reaction.

    • @andrewlopez7298
      @andrewlopez7298 4 года назад +38

      The super rats were enough to make a Batman out of any city

    • @rodrickzero7248
      @rodrickzero7248 4 года назад +5

      Nolan's version also, but with the whole mafia shit.

  • @ManHeIsAwesome
    @ManHeIsAwesome 4 года назад +248

    All Murray had to say was "who's there?" and there would be no Joker.

    • @anubis12321
      @anubis12321 4 года назад +89

      Again, another portrayal of modern society. For Murry to say "who's there" would mean for him to give up his power as the one "in charge" and play along; to let Arthur be in control of the conversation for even a minute. The elites today have no humility for the common folk, they're better than we are, and to stoop to our level and "play along" is to admit defeat to them.

    • @extantsanity
      @extantsanity 4 года назад +5

      @@anubis12321 Great observation and point.

    • @cristonsloan
      @cristonsloan 4 года назад +8

      @@anubis12321 Totally agree, except that has been the case throughout history, nothing "modern" about it whatsoever.

  • @nagarajanveerannan2967
    @nagarajanveerannan2967 5 лет назад +712

    That final scene where he paints a smile oh his face with his blood and stands with his arms out on top of a car with the mob surrounding him screaming his name. Game me chills. One of the most powerful scene in film history in my opinion.

    • @luiki4189
      @luiki4189 5 лет назад +110

      Nagaraj Veer I was an extra in that scene! When I saw Joaquin doing that I was sold I knew he would do a great job

    • @jdpena26
      @jdpena26 5 лет назад +30

      @@luiki4189 were you the guy with the mask?

    • @zackphoenixseth
      @zackphoenixseth 5 лет назад +24

      On the spot when the movie ended i decided that Joker is my number one movie of all time.

    • @luiki4189
      @luiki4189 5 лет назад +27

      The Fantabulous JalaPeña I had a bandana lol I was part of the mob surrounding the cop car

    • @nagarajanveerannan2967
      @nagarajanveerannan2967 5 лет назад +17

      @@zackphoenixseth I agree. i almost had the same reaction as in I felt it was one of the best films I've seen for a long time that made me go wow.

  • @TheKennn22
    @TheKennn22 5 лет назад +955

    I don’t think Alfred was that bad, a weird guy touching a kid and giving him flowers at the gate, how you supposed to react

    • @jameslopez9661
      @jameslopez9661 5 лет назад +70

      Plus he had a gun on him so he did the right thing

    • @xxsilentreatmentxx
      @xxsilentreatmentxx 5 лет назад +224

      And sticking his gross hands in the kids mouth, he's lucky Alfred didn't deck him. I don't understand this weird idea that Alfred acted so strangely

    • @oneguerrero
      @oneguerrero 5 лет назад +65

      Agree. It's so obvious that Arthur is dangerous, it's hard for me to be too upset with how people treat him.

    • @kirittv
      @kirittv 5 лет назад +31

      But Alfred knew about Wayne and Penny fleck. He was too complacent in that moment.

    • @thinkcritically1990
      @thinkcritically1990 5 лет назад +20

      @@oneguerrero It is the way people treated him that made him so. You get what you deserve. If your fear, or apathy, or greed leads you to treat people poorly then that is what is circulating..and it can grow quite easily.. That you did not understand that before the film is tragic...that you do not after suggests an excess of selfishness. You only see how YOU feel..but that is not by necessity but choice(insofar as anyone has choice).

  • @justinprather4760
    @justinprather4760 4 года назад +278

    My interpretation of the ending is him laughing at the irony of only being able to get good help after he was past the point of no return.

    • @tyrant-den884
      @tyrant-den884 4 года назад +9

      I thought he just found Bruce being sad his parents were dead funny.

    • @teamkillerjoker1565
      @teamkillerjoker1565 4 года назад +17

      Nah he is laughing because at the start he thought they were brothers, turns out they weren’t and were completely different, but by the end of the film, they are both the same, parents dead, so they really weren’t that different at all

    • @Tan87ful
      @Tan87ful 4 года назад +1

      Good point

    • @Tan87ful
      @Tan87ful 4 года назад +4

      Asperobin robin He did say that. This movie is very thought provoking and it’s a mirror to show us how society is really is

    • @jimdigitalvideo
      @jimdigitalvideo 4 года назад +10

      I like the "help came too late" realisation. He finally got a good psychiatrist but he realises it's too late for him. A good psychiatrist could help Arthur but she's just a lamb to be slaughtered for the Joker.

  • @mrplow8
    @mrplow8 5 лет назад +582

    Glad there was at least one good dark Phoenix movie this year.

  • @sparshparimoo
    @sparshparimoo 5 лет назад +283

    By the last scene, he doesn’t care about ‘deserve’. He only cares about ‘jokes’.

    • @alctaurion9038
      @alctaurion9038 4 года назад

      by the end he IS the joker basically joker will kill anyone just because he can

    • @santiagomelendez4468
      @santiagomelendez4468 4 года назад

      For some reason, I think that that last scene was before all that shit happenned. Like when he was with her first psychiatrist and I think she was the one that mentioned Arthur was in Arkham before and then asked him why was he in Arkham and the they cut to an scene (very much like the one we saw at the end) where Arthur is beating his head upon the door in a whiteish room just like the one we saw at the end. And I don't think it went too far tbh, besides you can't know what she did to her. Maybe he just stabbed her in the eye or something lol. I just genuenily loved it.

  • @lovipoekimo176
    @lovipoekimo176 4 года назад +203

    "The visceral experience of Joker should serve as a wake up call that we are, at least, partially culpable for the monsters our society is creating." --Grace Randolph
    This is not the first movie to have that message, it will not be the last. And I agree Grace, the people who hate the movie probably felt personally attacked because they are the kind of people shown in this movie.

    • @anonymousanonymous_000
      @anonymousanonymous_000 4 года назад +6

      Bingo ! I too think that is why others are having an issue with it. They don't like the mirror.

    • @jimdigitalvideo
      @jimdigitalvideo 4 года назад +5

      Nailed it. This movie actually did an awesome job of portraying society.

    • @asherif3893
      @asherif3893 4 года назад +1

      Yeah true but I think taxi driver, death sentence, the mad bomber are much more deep and violent movie than this one. This one got all the fame because it has the joker in it, but as a joker origin story it fails for me.

    • @williamerazo3921
      @williamerazo3921 2 года назад

      Yup

  • @mjgorgeous
    @mjgorgeous 5 лет назад +264

    When Arthur just kept staring and smiling at his boss I FELT THAT SHIT!! That scene alone told me that this movie was about to get more and more effed up and man it did!!

    • @khalilcooper8830
      @khalilcooper8830 4 года назад +16

      As he stood there smiling you heard the sound of him kicking a trash can fading in. Wow just wow

    • @Trish-lamour
      @Trish-lamour 4 года назад +17

      I thought we all can relate to that scene

  • @Roman-ez4hq
    @Roman-ez4hq 5 лет назад +366

    I love how in the last scene when Joker tells the physiatrist that she wouldn’t understand the joke, it flashes to Bruce Wayne standing above his two dead parents. You have one abandoned child juxtaposed over another abandoned child. It’s crazy how the film was able to relate Batman and the Joker so strongly to the point that they essentially started their hero and villain journey the same way.

    • @Roman-ez4hq
      @Roman-ez4hq 5 лет назад +17

      Harley Quinn they aren’t brothers, but it’s almost as if they are.

    • @Roman-ez4hq
      @Roman-ez4hq 5 лет назад +26

      Starscream91 exactly. The main difference between the two is that one became a hero and one became a villain, but they both started in the same place.

    • @rjohndonahue8262
      @rjohndonahue8262 5 лет назад +1

      Harley Quinn half brother

    • @nebulous8389
      @nebulous8389 5 лет назад +21

      @@Roman-ez4hq honestly I'd like to think they are its possible that Thomas Wayne used his power and money to cover up the fact that Arthur is also his kid. Todd Phillips says it isnt supposed to be comic accurate at all more so it's own movie.

    • @Roman-ez4hq
      @Roman-ez4hq 5 лет назад +24

      Nebulous I was actually thinking that Thomas Wayne had Arthur with another woman (not his wife or Penny) and then used the relationship he had with Penny Fleck to make her adopt Arthur.

  • @shanksdragon1721
    @shanksdragon1721 4 года назад +180

    "when I get the Oscar can you introduce me as joker "

    • @viksaggu9085
      @viksaggu9085 4 года назад +8

      Shanks Dragon “ Joquine what do you think will happen if you don’t get an Oscar” Joquine: “ theyill get what they fucking deserve”

    • @kimberlyhaines107
      @kimberlyhaines107 4 года назад +6

      He got his Oscar! He had me near tears when he thanked everyone for giving him a second chance when he fell off the wagon. Something Arthur never got. And referencing his brother River at the very end 😭

  • @reubenyuri
    @reubenyuri 5 лет назад +321

    They play Happy music whenever he's making up things in his mind, when he imagines his appearance on the talk show to his dates with Zazzy Beats. It's a nice hint, loved this movie.

    • @diskjokk
      @diskjokk 5 лет назад +10

      I totally missed that. Wow!

    • @anawayne52
      @anawayne52 5 лет назад +5

      Wow thank you for this!!!

    • @tymone3544
      @tymone3544 5 лет назад +21

      If that's true maybe it means he imagined killing the doctor at the end.

    • @MrWizeazz
      @MrWizeazz 5 лет назад +5

      That dark brooding cello score throughout the whole thing though. It almost felt like I was watching the Shinning or something. This is such an amazing movie and I can’t wait to see it again.

    • @BilsonBoi
      @BilsonBoi 5 лет назад +2

      Tymon E I thought that for a while but I also think it could be where the line between his imagination(of what he would have wanted to say or do in his mind) and what he would actually do, his reality, have blurred. Now all those things that he wanted to do and say but kept inside are on the outside. It’s like 2 colorful dyes mixing together.. someone described him as a walking ID and I thought that was really good cause he just does what comes to mind now.. no second thought or guessing which is the joker

  • @strontiumblog
    @strontiumblog 5 лет назад +65

    I found it hilarious when young Bruce Wayne slides down the fireman’s pole to approach the Joker... I hope I’m not the only one that thought this was a reference to the 60s show 😬

    • @strontiumblog
      @strontiumblog 5 лет назад +3

      And that’s why you don’t comment before finishing a video... glad Grace agrees!

  • @rigorigo8145
    @rigorigo8145 4 года назад +82

    When he created that smile with his blood, that is the moment Joker was born, making him persue his lifestyle of killing even innocents now. Arthur Fleck was no more.

    • @zercora
      @zercora 4 года назад +8

      The joker was alive the moment he walked down that stair case

    • @manicms
      @manicms 4 года назад +2

      I'd call it his baptism.

    • @turq1824
      @turq1824 4 года назад +4

      Shut up fortnite

  • @Ace-jb6gi
    @Ace-jb6gi 5 лет назад +963

    The whole movie is from Joker's perspective. He's disturbed, I don't even know what was real and what was in his mind.

    • @mem1701movies
      @mem1701movies 5 лет назад +81

      Jesse Estall yeah... he's an UNRELIABLE NARRATOR

    • @hawks5999
      @hawks5999 5 лет назад +71

      I think everything was in his mind. He never got out of the hospital. His first psychiatrist asks him about why he was in the hospital and he refuses to talk about it. Because his fantasy is touching on his reality and he won’t have that. He dreamed up everything and that gave him the impetus to kill the shrink at the end.

    • @melokari4704
      @melokari4704 5 лет назад +35

      Jesse Estall I think everything was real except people cheering for his jokes, people only cheered for him for his tragedy, that is real, not the jokes.

    • @reubenyuri
      @reubenyuri 5 лет назад +72

      They play happy music whenever he's making up things in his mind. Picked it up When He first imagined his talk show appearance where he gets a hug, and I found it eery when they played the music again when zazzy beats was hanging out with him.

    • @jarrodedson5441
      @jarrodedson5441 5 лет назад +5

      @@reubenyuri I have a question for you

  • @holyflame2
    @holyflame2 5 лет назад +446

    *"You see madness is like gravity, all it takes is a little push"*
    -JOKER

    • @jimiyakuza9523
      @jimiyakuza9523 5 лет назад +7

      So very true. The last few months have felt like we’re in a Batman story. Society going crazy and tearing itself apart over the actions or perceived dangers of the joker...I can almost hear him chuckling at the madness of it all

    • @ladislaugomes7447
      @ladislaugomes7447 4 года назад +1

      I see allot of Ledger's Joker on Phoenix's. It's like a prequel.

    • @trackwalkerfilms
      @trackwalkerfilms 4 года назад

      yes..push..then watch me work.

  • @roadkillz78
    @roadkillz78 4 года назад +211

    "When people have nothing to lose, they lose it." - Gerald Celente

  • @stjjnr980
    @stjjnr980 5 лет назад +224

    The “Shhhhhhh”, when he dropped the 🔫 I lost it 😅

    • @wilson81919
      @wilson81919 4 года назад +1

      I war rolling bruh

    • @merrickbeaufort8048
      @merrickbeaufort8048 4 года назад +2

      That shit was funny as hell! Then he tried to play it off like nobody saw it lmao!

    • @bukai2008
      @bukai2008 4 года назад +1

      Yeah that was shocking with all the children around just stopped singing

  • @round12tko
    @round12tko 5 лет назад +321

    The only person that showed the Joker compassion was the dwarf

    • @MrRadioRiot
      @MrRadioRiot 5 лет назад +4

      happy larry Did he really? I thought it was just weird how he straight up killed the guy that gave him a gun, if anything the midget killing that same guy would make more sense.

    • @j2174
      @j2174 5 лет назад +4

      @@MrRadioRiot eh? Why's that?

    • @TheAntiArtist
      @TheAntiArtist 5 лет назад +4

      @@MrRadioRiot Maybe he killed the guy because though he gave him the gun to "help" him, he inevitably lit the flame for Arthur to take the next step in standing up for himself when he's knocked down (or stomped in this case). It streamlined Arthur's progression into the Joker.

    • @MrRadioRiot
      @MrRadioRiot 5 лет назад

      Forte.Ui That makes it even more bizarre. Why lash out against the person that literally helped you create your own persona and make a name for yourself?

    • @j2174
      @j2174 5 лет назад +58

      @@MrRadioRiot that guy helped to get Arthur fires from his job. He told the owner about Arthur having the gun.

  • @EntropyGuardian
    @EntropyGuardian 4 года назад +54

    The reveal that he was imagining his relationship with his neighbor saved a good chunk of the movie for me. I was thinking "Man, I am loving this but this woman would not be spending time around this guy in a million years. Where is her kid?"

  • @peterpain6625
    @peterpain6625 5 лет назад +593

    I guess most people voting this movie down just feel threatened by how close to home it hits.

    • @cordelllongstreath741
      @cordelllongstreath741 5 лет назад +1

      @@bnwo thank you.

    • @mollytovxx4181
      @mollytovxx4181 5 лет назад +23

      @@bnwo I believe there is value in trying to understand the perspective of characters like Arthur, or the incel-types and shooters of the world. Movies are one way we can explore these ideas and ask difficult questions. This is not at all the same thing as agreeing with those perspectives or condoning their actions. Ultimately their viewpoint is deeply flawed- but how can anyone expect these issues to improve if we ignore the root of why people do these things (even if their "why" is in no way justifiable)? It is of course difficult to present these ideas without seeming to glorify them, but I think the fear of that misinterpretation means that these conversations rarely end up happening in the mainstream. I am very glad for the conversation and debate a movie like this creates.

    • @oneshotperrotte1541
      @oneshotperrotte1541 5 лет назад +11

      Maybe rotten tomatoes isn't as fair as most people believe! Right now as of Thursday opening night joke's rt score is 69% but the audience score is at 92%.With nearly double the reviewed votes! I personally care more about the audience votes. I really enjoyed the movie!

    • @Joe-co4yq
      @Joe-co4yq 5 лет назад +15

      @@bnwo It's not justifying the violence in the movie. It's showing the danger of our own cruelty to people can cause this violence.

    • @cobracommander8133
      @cobracommander8133 5 лет назад +31

      N.W.A. It’s almost like you’re purposefully missing the point because it hits too close to home.....

  • @EFantasic
    @EFantasic 5 лет назад +230

    I think the movie was a perfect mirror to society and that is what frightens people.

    • @roycastanon5754
      @roycastanon5754 5 лет назад +1

      Emily definitely, joker would be terrifying

    • @Possiblyabandaid
      @Possiblyabandaid 5 лет назад +4

      The funny thing is, I bet most people here wouldn't agree on the context of reality.
      Spot on though in my opinion.(I'll see myself out)

    • @lollic307
      @lollic307 5 лет назад +5

      I'm disturbed that millions are spent a movie about broken society.. I wish Hollywood would use some of that money to make a positive change on earth...50% of people on this planet are in literal hell...I'm done

    • @alienchola
      @alienchola 5 лет назад

      👏👏👏

  • @zachaverett7583
    @zachaverett7583 4 года назад +51

    “I hope the visceral experience of Joker does serve as a wake-up call that we are partially culpable for the monsters our society is creating.”
    Grace... this summarizes the movie beautifully in one sentence.
    Coming from someone who has struggled with mental health demons, has been in a mental health hospital, and who has experienced first-hand the horribly inept and castrated attempts our society makes to address mental health, I applaud you for saying it the way it really is. Thank you.

  • @mkotow
    @mkotow 5 лет назад +267

    "Acts in self-defense when he shoots them" First two you can make an argument but the third was a straight up execution and the film was very clear on that.

    • @Suspence008
      @Suspence008 4 года назад +15

      mkotow right!?! Lol I was hearing all this stuff about self defense and I was like....eh, he kinda started that way lol

    • @navylaks2
      @navylaks2 4 года назад

      Very true

    • @Rizziculous
      @Rizziculous 4 года назад +22

      I think she meant it started as self defense.

    • @nothingserious8577
      @nothingserious8577 4 года назад +4

      He got what he deserved. Right

    • @T1hitsTheHighestNote
      @T1hitsTheHighestNote 4 года назад +12

      He was a witness.

  • @Zachary_McLaren
    @Zachary_McLaren 5 лет назад +101

    This movie really holds up a mirror to our society, we do not help the mentally ill enough.

    • @Whaddayamean13
      @Whaddayamean13 4 года назад +1

      And yet some people think confiscating guns will fix the issue of mass shootings. They completely disregard the message of the film: you cannot solve violence by committing more violence. Police would be ransacking homes, violating privacy, and treating citizens like criminal suspects when they enforce gun laws. Maybe we should lend a hand towards society's loneliest individuals instead of begging politicians to intrude on human rights.

    • @amsd1231
      @amsd1231 4 года назад +1

      It held up a mirror to our society and people didn't like what they saw.

    • @fabianhammer2864
      @fabianhammer2864 4 года назад +2

      ​@@Whaddayamean13 It doesnt help that a lot of People romanticize mental Illness. May contribute to the Fact, that the People who actually need it the most, arent taken seriously. This Movie, while being set in 81, reinforced my Belief that we are too divided as a Species, as it is, mental Illness not necessarily being a Necessity. Or most of the Earths Population has already gone mad, after all. Time will tell….Im probably reading way too much into this Movie and its Themes….needless to say, though it was sometimes a frustrating Experience (plotwise), the overall Mood really got under my Skin. Special Shoutout to Hildur Gudnadottir, who subtly elevated this Flick, to another Level- End of Rant.

  • @kevinsayshowdy
    @kevinsayshowdy 4 года назад +68

    Loved how he showed obvious pain in his laughing condition. Perfect way of injecting the laugh into this movie. Just wow.

  • @kiyantesmith3089
    @kiyantesmith3089 5 лет назад +144

    The Zazie Beetz moment was great. Also leaving her fate to the imagination is haunting.

    • @cadenceangel
      @cadenceangel 5 лет назад +16

      It really was.

    • @mogaman28
      @mogaman28 5 лет назад +11

      Yes. I was: did he really killed her and her daughter?

    • @rashidarasheed8779
      @rashidarasheed8779 5 лет назад +23

      @@mogaman28 yeah I think he did.. Cause there are these ambulance sirens after he returns to his apartment

    • @azeezibnnaim
      @azeezibnnaim 5 лет назад +5

      No I don’t think he killed her , based on how he reacted to choking Alfred in front of Bruce

    • @rams3955
      @rams3955 5 лет назад +1

      I don't think he killed her but I do kind of wish they didn't include the reveal. I kinda wish they kept it ambiguous to whether it was all real or not.

  • @1999tenorio
    @1999tenorio 5 лет назад +452

    instead of blaming this movie for inspiring monsters maybe use it as inspiration to help them from becoming one.

    • @heinsoe6488
      @heinsoe6488 5 лет назад +49

      The right perspective

    • @3dmaster205
      @3dmaster205 5 лет назад +22

      Yeah, but that requires that they go against their own ideology, they have to fundamentally give up that which makes them feel like good people; they never will.

    • @Lodatzor
      @Lodatzor 5 лет назад +7

      This should be the top rated comment.

    • @SJ-oq7iu
      @SJ-oq7iu 4 года назад +4

      A freaking men

    • @SJ-oq7iu
      @SJ-oq7iu 4 года назад +16

      This was like a PSA for how to help and be kind to downtrodden people. How to avoid creating monsters. How are people not seeing that is beyond me

  • @King_Cosmic
    @King_Cosmic 4 года назад +62

    The end showed that he was truly the Joker at that point. There was no saving him.

  • @awesomearl54
    @awesomearl54 5 лет назад +295

    Killing Joke: Batman made Jack the Joker
    Joker: Joker made Bruce the Batman

    • @tqlla
      @tqlla 4 года назад +16

      I say "I made you" you gotta say "you made me." I mean, how childish can you get?

    • @awesomearl54
      @awesomearl54 4 года назад +5

      @@tqlla the hell ya talking about?

    • @Chessheromusic
      @Chessheromusic 4 года назад +1

      Earl Highlights wha his name was Arthur in killing joke

    • @awesomearl54
      @awesomearl54 4 года назад +2

      @@Chessheromusic His name in the comics is Jack napier

    • @trence5
      @trence5 4 года назад

      If - IF - half the things that happened were true it juuuuuust might explain WHY Batman won't kill the Joker.

  • @michaeldeal3786
    @michaeldeal3786 5 лет назад +363

    I like how everyone always ask why doesn't Batman just kill the Joker and this is why..

    • @AlfredEiji
      @AlfredEiji 5 лет назад +73

      Michael Deal Yea. I think I get it now too. Killing Joker would be equivalent to admitting that society is beyond saving, and it would be better to burn it all down.

    • @magicflyingbaby
      @magicflyingbaby 5 лет назад +8

      Well Grace touched on this idea in her non-spoiler review of Joker

    • @AlfredEiji
      @AlfredEiji 5 лет назад

      Bobeert Yea, I know.

    • @shanemcdowell6722
      @shanemcdowell6722 5 лет назад +8

      Well you can't kill your older brother. Lol.

    • @ShimaS-0079
      @ShimaS-0079 5 лет назад +11

      The real question is why doesn't the state execute the Joker. All the people the joker has killed the world would have made that choice for Batman

  • @moonskeetz
    @moonskeetz 4 года назад +72

    After sympathising with Arthur, I hought the ending was necessary because it reminds us that he is a villain and is a cold blooded killer.

  • @Mamba_4_life8
    @Mamba_4_life8 5 лет назад +572

    Does anyone think that when Joaquin went on Kimmel with regards to the outtake and the talk about his breakdancing, he was illustrating the point that the film makes about media and talk show hosts looking for entertainment rather than an actual discussion?

  • @brickherostudios1070
    @brickherostudios1070 5 лет назад +174

    I actually really liked how Murray was played. I was sold on him being a late night host

    • @sMASHsound
      @sMASHsound 4 года назад +8

      i think it was done well enough.

    • @aquarius4884
      @aquarius4884 4 года назад +5

      Some people just can't get past the fame/recognizability of an actor.

    • @macmcleod1188
      @macmcleod1188 4 года назад +4

      He and his hench person were strongly channeling the Johnny Carson show.

    • @ramonserna8089
      @ramonserna8089 4 года назад +1

      Difference being Murray was actually funny

    • @cyranodebergerac6587
      @cyranodebergerac6587 4 года назад +1

      Taxi Driver come full circle.

  • @joshb3867
    @joshb3867 4 года назад +50

    “Those who don’t know history are due to repeat it” Philosophy 101, love it!

  • @gusharris-reid3419
    @gusharris-reid3419 5 лет назад +166

    Joaquin Phoenix characters: smothering their parents to death since Gladiator...

    • @simonsez2873
      @simonsez2873 4 года назад +7

      Lol true

    •  4 года назад +8

      Good catch.

    • @shadowed366
      @shadowed366 4 года назад

      Does an Alien count as a mother?

    • @g.w.7893
      @g.w.7893 4 года назад

      Touche'

    • @yomarnt
      @yomarnt 4 года назад +2

      Pillow talk.

  • @blackmanwithcomputer
    @blackmanwithcomputer 5 лет назад +105

    I feel like people are overlooking that Bruce was just like Fleck: a sad soul that couldn't smile.
    A sad soul that just got his "bad day".

    • @Blackhawk211
      @Blackhawk211 5 лет назад +32

      the fundamental difference is that bruce dedicated his vengeance on making sure it doesnt happen to anyone else wheareas arthur wants everyone to feel the same way

    • @dec23
      @dec23 5 лет назад +3

      I thought it was very odd how Bruce was so still and really didn't smile, even when his parents were alive. You're right.

  • @Milo_Reacher
    @Milo_Reacher 4 года назад +36

    When he stopped the midget before letting him go I thought he was going to kill him because he may tell the police. Then I realized that Joker doesn't care, not even for the police

  • @boeschner3835
    @boeschner3835 5 лет назад +675

    I feel like this stupid controversy is going to cost Phoenix an Oscar...

    • @milkshake26M
      @milkshake26M 5 лет назад +121

      disney is working overtime for that

    • @johansmallberries9874
      @johansmallberries9874 5 лет назад +8

      Do those even matter anymore? Shit, if rather get a Dundee

    • @karimzakaria9621
      @karimzakaria9621 5 лет назад +31

      You think so? I think it might cost Joker a Best Picture nomination but I feel like hes going to win Best Actor easily

    • @joshmargolis1424
      @joshmargolis1424 5 лет назад +13

      @@milkshake26M you know disney/marvel and dc are cool right? They all want the other to succeed because it benefits the genre. Just look at the gift Feige and Co sent Gunn on the set of suicide squad.

    • @jamesoller4900
      @jamesoller4900 5 лет назад

      That’s sad

  • @kovac5412
    @kovac5412 5 лет назад +179

    I think the final scene was needed to hammer the final nail in the coffin that he’s not supposed to be sympathized.

    • @cadenceangel
      @cadenceangel 5 лет назад +9

      Yes!

    • @anobodytrynatelleverybody7535
      @anobodytrynatelleverybody7535 5 лет назад +1

      Yup, I agree

    • @mahmam3128
      @mahmam3128 5 лет назад +1

      Exactly, not just the final scene but also when he murdered Randall

    • @benrualf
      @benrualf 5 лет назад +1

      Right after he is applauded by everybody in the city. I mean I know what you're saying but I also know that some people will not see it that way

    • @loveoffilm4327
      @loveoffilm4327 5 лет назад +6

      i agree, the last scene showed that he doesnt have any kind of twisted code anymore, hes just chaos now.

  • @moderman512
    @moderman512 4 года назад +45

    He does not become the joker till the final scene. When he makes the smile with blood. But it was worth watching the journey. Best film I've seen in years.

  • @docrussojr
    @docrussojr 5 лет назад +161

    My interpretation of the *Joker* was that when you try to do good, you get walked on. But when you turn bad, you're sensationalized by the media.

    • @KALAPE_
      @KALAPE_ 5 лет назад +11

      Frankie Russell definitely a piece of the film, definitely not the main idea though

    • @knucklestheecchidnaa
      @knucklestheecchidnaa 5 лет назад +5

      "No one care who I was until I put on the masl."

    • @thethrowawaythatstayed7055
      @thethrowawaythatstayed7055 5 лет назад +1

      Agree!!

    • @TreyIM22
      @TreyIM22 5 лет назад

      @@knucklestheecchidnaa Bane, what are u doing here?

  • @L1amS0den
    @L1amS0den 5 лет назад +117

    After going over the movie in my head, I laughed at the joke about the city being infested with ‘super rats’ and Murray’s joke solution was ‘super cats’. It’s a call out for the future of the city with super villains popping up and super heroes being the supposed answer, as people always say in comics how absurd it is and that one always results in the other

    • @BilsonBoi
      @BilsonBoi 5 лет назад

      Liam Soden ah interesting, I like this lol

    • @MeryKeit
      @MeryKeit 5 лет назад

      THIS. So good.

    • @oranmcclintock302
      @oranmcclintock302 5 лет назад

      You see the super rats in the alleyway where Bruce is standing over his dead parents

  • @NaikoArt
    @NaikoArt 4 года назад +38

    The last scene is just the conclusion of Joker, he finally became a monster that has no cure, you think he just kills bad people, until that end

  • @yakovsychev9726
    @yakovsychev9726 5 лет назад +123

    And one more thing. When you are gonna give me the Oscar can you introduce me as "Joker"?

    • @cadenceangel
      @cadenceangel 5 лет назад +7

      Oh would that ever be so Perfect.

    • @atticus5106
      @atticus5106 5 лет назад

      I feel bad for whoever presents him with it.

  • @crawdaddct
    @crawdaddct 5 лет назад +105

    This movie definitely says a lot about our society. I was impressed with even the placement of the movie in 1981. We tend to look at that time with rose colored glasses, but that was when we as a country turned our backs on people with mental health issues, shutting down many programs. Stopped trying to rehabilitate criminals. That time has directly led up to the issues we have today. Good review, it is ironic, the people who should be championing this movie are the one turning against it. Just shows power is more important than doing what’s right.

    • @My-Name-Isnt-Important
      @My-Name-Isnt-Important 4 года назад

      For a time the state forcibly locked up the mentally ill people in insane asylums, where they received poor care and were kept in poor conditions. With many of them being abused. It was believed that it was better for the mentally ill to be with family, than forcibly held in asylums, which is why in the 60s they began to end forcibly holding to mentally ill. Its not a black and white issue either, both being held and free with family have certain serious issues related to them. Also, many places now are totally overwhelmed and understaffed and can not deal with the amount of people that need help and treatment. There simply isn't enough people willing to deal with the severely mentally ill, and far too few places that can correctly and humanely handle the amount of people that need treatment.

    • @defenstrator4660
      @defenstrator4660 4 года назад

      To be fair, a lot of the change was the attitudes towards mental health. After the problems of the 60s and 70s where mental institutions were becoming prisons to keep problems out of the way, it was felt that people need to be free rather than locked up.

    • @internetdinosaur8810
      @internetdinosaur8810 4 года назад +1

      All the ironic "society" memes aside, this genuinely does say a lot about our society.

  • @jaernihiltheus7817
    @jaernihiltheus7817 4 года назад +80

    "All it takes is *one bad day"* - Killing Joke
    In this movie: "You're Arthur right? Are you okay?" (paraphrased of course)
    "I had a bad day" - The Joker.

    • @Iquey
      @Iquey 4 года назад +1

      Bad Day by Daniel Powter starts playing🎵🎶🎵🎶 "cause you had a bad day.."

  • @FilmyProfessor
    @FilmyProfessor 5 лет назад +144

    I love how passionate Grace becomes when she loves a movie...Saw the movie, and seeing ur review just enhances my experience of this masterpiece...🙂

    • @FilmyProfessor
      @FilmyProfessor 5 лет назад +4

      @@Gaia_Gaistar lol...let's just say she is passionate about her disapproval as well... 😜

  • @GeorgeCaltsoudas
    @GeorgeCaltsoudas 5 лет назад +46

    I also really liked the juxtaposition between Arthur and Bruce Wayne and also the boy on the bus. Arthur likes to think how different and better his life would be if he had grown up with Thomas as his father at the manor, but seeing a depressed young lonely Bruce Wayne who can't bring himself to smile shows us that would not necessarily be the case. And in contrast to both the Waynes and Arthur's mother and boyfriend, that mother on the bus is so loving and protective of her little boy and that boy's ability to very easily smile and laugh and connect with others shows us how he is the mentally healthy product of a loving, nurturing upbringing.

  • @jay07261986
    @jay07261986 5 лет назад +17

    I think the scary thing about his character is that he never was happy a day in his life...but revenge n murder gave him a joy he never experienced before....he really enjoyed payback visibly...it made him genuinely happy...by the end of the film he came across as extremely free...

  • @AtaurRahman-bs1lm
    @AtaurRahman-bs1lm 5 лет назад +47

    They went the TRAVIS BICKLE rout with the ending. Like Scorsese said, "Most of the audience make a hero out of Travis when he kills the pimps because he attacked the right people. HE WON'T BE RIGHT THE NEXT TIME". Only in TAXI DRIVER, they don't show this NEXT TIME. The movie ends after the incident. But in JOKER, THEY BLOODY SHOWED THE NEXT TIME. It's amazing.

  • @GF-jo3yy
    @GF-jo3yy 5 лет назад +48

    My favourite moment was when he used his own blood to re-paint his smile back on before he turned and faced the crowd!

    • @SusVir
      @SusVir 4 года назад

      Yeah.

    • @neilsantosh8897
      @neilsantosh8897 4 года назад

      me too

    • @brendonw456
      @brendonw456 4 года назад +3

      "How to write an iconic moment"
      Seriously though...I have been thinking about the symbolism behind that moment a lot. My take so far is that it visually shows how Arthur is finding a twisted joy as a result of his suffering.

    • @MaxIronsThird
      @MaxIronsThird 4 года назад +4

      That was an amazing scene

  • @kamranr03
    @kamranr03 4 года назад +31

    I got chills at that Zazzie Beetz reveal. It was definitely one of the best reveals right after the one where Arthur reads his mother’s letter

    • @siriusgray
      @siriusgray 4 года назад +3

      Kamran Rehman it wasn’t that surprising. The earlier scene where he knocks on her door and proceeds to make out with her was not believable in the slightest. That was the biggest hint he had no relationship with her at all.

    • @kamranr03
      @kamranr03 4 года назад +6

      siriusgray true but it was still very shocking especially because things like that that didn’t make sense before all made sense now

  • @jaideepwarrier9092
    @jaideepwarrier9092 5 лет назад +37

    About that ending scene, I feel like Arthur was so mentally scarred by the end that no help or kindness could change him. When there was really hope to change him, society didn't do anything, instead it was just a catalyst to the person he eventually becomes.

  • @xenomorphrules6982
    @xenomorphrules6982 5 лет назад +126

    I think the reason why there's such a push back on this movie is because society has become so accustomed to playing the blame game. "It's not my fault I'm in this situation, it's this person's fault!" Nobody is going to step in or stand up for somebody when they're being blamed for something until somebody is pointing the finger at you. Then it becomes a huge problem.

    • @thekoffinrockers
      @thekoffinrockers 5 лет назад +3

      Check out the phenomenon called the bystander effect.

    • @outerheavenman
      @outerheavenman 5 лет назад

      @@thekoffinrockers
      Excatly

    • @3dmaster205
      @3dmaster205 5 лет назад +7

      No, the reason for the push back is quite obvious; they're intersectional feminists, aka haters of all that is white, male, and heterosexual (especially the working class); and here's a white, male, heterosexual villain exactly in the mold they hate, and they imagine him as a hero for all the people they've been beating down upon; they see the movie as resistance to their demands, and they hate resistance to their demands.

    • @sarajean727
      @sarajean727 5 лет назад +1

      Check out the attribution error

    • @anon7945
      @anon7945 5 лет назад

      Every individual doesn't really care about others, some maybe just to feed their egos, but in the end when one falls down no one would give a damn.

  • @superproducercbiz
    @superproducercbiz 5 лет назад +31

    The biggest mistake of the trailer is showing the “can you introduce me as joker” part. That should of been first experienced in the film. would of been a definitive moment.

    • @MaxIronsThird
      @MaxIronsThird 4 года назад +5

      But then you get the reason why he wants to be called Joker, first because it was used against him and also because he hates his own name(implying that he blames his adoptive mother for his trauma) and that he just wants to live Arthur Fleck behind, he's not that person anymore.

    • @gaithealwahab5202
      @gaithealwahab5202 4 года назад

      Good thing i didn't watch any trailers beside the very first teaser

  • @kainie7982
    @kainie7982 5 лет назад +163

    Every time someone tries to tell me a joke starting with Knock Knock, I will think of Joker.

    • @kailashsingha4073
      @kailashsingha4073 5 лет назад +8

      and I ain't making those jokes again 😂🤣

    • @terminator9478
      @terminator9478 5 лет назад +4

      You get what you deserve

    • @ludwigtheholyblade777
      @ludwigtheholyblade777 5 лет назад

      You better get the fuck out of the way the ending of that joke is quite explosive

  • @dec23
    @dec23 5 лет назад +13

    Grace, the ending scene was just depicting that he is now the JOKER. The joker has no remorse, empathy, compassion - he's crazy. I thought the ending was great.

  • @hectorsquintero9424
    @hectorsquintero9424 5 лет назад +109

    I disagree, i felt the ending was a perfect representation of the Joker. Alo I felt De Niro did fine as the talk show host.

    • @davidabbott8967
      @davidabbott8967 4 года назад +6

      I second this

    • @JonathanMutsinzi1998
      @JonathanMutsinzi1998 4 года назад +2

      Hectors Quintero it cemented this movie as 1 of his story's

    • @bubblegumdukem9758
      @bubblegumdukem9758 4 года назад +2

      Yeah she had a bad take

    • @obsidiansinclaire3826
      @obsidiansinclaire3826 4 года назад +4

      Its proof that Arthur Fleck is dead, and only the Joker remains.

    • @Lukecash2
      @Lukecash2 4 года назад +7

      I agree, De Niro was excellent as the talk show host, the nice guy in private, the viper on stage.

  • @noahdanielg
    @noahdanielg 5 лет назад +234

    Look after each other folks, don’t abandon those who feel lost and alone...

    • @lollic307
      @lollic307 5 лет назад +4

      God help us

    • @elliemayyyatr8225
      @elliemayyyatr8225 5 лет назад +4

      ❤️

    • @adu1991
      @adu1991 5 лет назад +1

      Agreed.
      (800)-273-8255.

    • @tengshenavneet96
      @tengshenavneet96 5 лет назад +8

      @Bobo Boy Ted bundy was a psychopath from the start . Arthur in this movie was still trying to be normal and good trying to find that hope.... a hand in the dark to pull him out but no one came . There is a difference .

    • @888thawk
      @888thawk 5 лет назад +1

      Noah G good luck with that

  • @MakoProductions321
    @MakoProductions321 4 года назад +237

    I learned one thing from this movie: We sure do live in a society.

    • @jorgiebutt
      @jorgiebutt 4 года назад +1

      ??...we've always lived...in..a..society. Did you mean that our society reflects what is depicted in the film, which is bad. The rich do have us by the man and lady balls.

    • @jorgiebutt
      @jorgiebutt 4 года назад

      @Samuel Maurer Oh. Kay.

    • @Blurredborderlines
      @Blurredborderlines 4 года назад +2

      @@jorgiebutt that's the joke

    • @jorgiebutt
      @jorgiebutt 4 года назад +2

      @Anti-Federalist 1776 Uh. huh. Keep posting

    • @jorgiebutt
      @jorgiebutt 4 года назад

      @Anti-Federalist 1776
      ah, you're the measuring stick of bravery. who would have guessed that one.

  • @businessk3014
    @businessk3014 5 лет назад +136

    "Why are you laughing"
    "You wouldn't get it"
    He's laughing because nobody cared when he was looking for help and he has to go that far to get another therapist but the joke is that by then it's too late so he kills her, he's no longer "Robinhood" he's not trying to be good anymore

    • @3dmaster205
      @3dmaster205 5 лет назад +6

      He never was trying to be good.

    • @alvinpeterson1039
      @alvinpeterson1039 5 лет назад +18

      No one cared enough to help him, when he was trying to get help. But now that he has done all this, everyone is looking at him everyone is noticed him, eveeyone's attention is on him, get it. It took him having to lose everything to gain this lol bit of attention and respect and help in the end. That it's unfortunately to late, way to late. Gotham you get what you deserve. Gotham is proof that the system is broken.

    • @businessk3014
      @businessk3014 5 лет назад +1

      3DMaster thats why I used quotes but he still thought of himself as "not a bad guy", by the end he doesn't care about the distinction and it's funny to him

    • @BilsonBoi
      @BilsonBoi 5 лет назад +3

      Exactly, the fucking Wayne’s have to die before anyone sees some quality mental care and tbh wtf.. who is it going to have to be for people in the US to get quality mental health care? Obviously not the droves of cold children..

    • @maxrusty3596
      @maxrusty3596 5 лет назад +1

      @@3dmaster205 You missed the point if thats what u think.

  • @SullyFox
    @SullyFox 5 лет назад +53

    The final message of the film is that society had irreparably broken Arthur, that it had succeeded in creating its own demon.

    • @shadowseer07
      @shadowseer07 5 лет назад +3

      I totally feel that. We can have sympathy for Arthur, but the Joker is the result!!! You get what you deserve!

    • @Possiblyabandaid
      @Possiblyabandaid 5 лет назад +3

      "Always leave a way out, unless you really want to find out how hard a man can fight when he’s nothing to lose."
      - A dead guy that was awesome and more people should know about.

    • @robertperrotto870
      @robertperrotto870 5 лет назад +3

      Sort of like how legacy media is creating the controversy around this film by megaphoning their "concern" about violence. Legacy media is shouting to the world that they will be paying particular attention to this film which may bring the very horrors they say they are concerned about to fruition. One of the biggest connections between these people who commit mass atrocities is that they will be in everyones household in minutes through media reporting. Too bad Legacy media deliberately excises themselves from responsibility for this.

  • @ramiyohay7286
    @ramiyohay7286 4 года назад +176

    This movie could be set in 2019 and still have the same effect..

    • @Merdicano
      @Merdicano 4 года назад +7

      Same, I feel like even though its set in the 1980s, the form and way this world is built and the effect on society it had, its a huge reflection on how society is like nowadays on 2019, that was impressing to me

    • @michaelknight2897
      @michaelknight2897 4 года назад

      I am curious, what commentary do you think it has that is applicable to 2019?

    • @tristan6551
      @tristan6551 4 года назад

      Manuel David Rendon Acevedo 80s

    • @bigtimecena3676
      @bigtimecena3676 4 года назад

      Manuel David Rendon Acevedo no it’s set in 60s or 70s

    • @juanlazy7949
      @juanlazy7949 4 года назад

      That would be too on the nose if they set it in the present

  • @GarrettTheViking
    @GarrettTheViking 5 лет назад +173

    The best line from one of my favorite episodes of Batman: The Animated Series, "Birds of a Feather," sums this movie up perfectly. The Penguin says, "I suppose it's true what they say: Society is to blame. High Society."

    • @neto5928
      @neto5928 5 лет назад +3

      My favorite Penguin episode ever!

  • @MrDrico8
    @MrDrico8 5 лет назад +58

    Be kind, because U never know what’s going on in someone’s head.

  • @princeprocrastinate6485
    @princeprocrastinate6485 4 года назад +27

    I don't think that final scene went "too far", if anything that scene demonstrates that Arthur himself has gone too far and basically has become the psychotic Joker we know, a madman killing for his own amusement. Everyone else he kills in the movie he has clear personal motivations for doing so, but with that psychiatrist it isn't the same, it's just evil.

  • @ashankdixit8763
    @ashankdixit8763 5 лет назад +60

    I don't think any other actor could do a more convincing "painful laughter" scene than Joaquin Phoenix. I mean you can just see that he is trying to stop so many times but can't and he is almost in tears. So good!

  • @ryiin
    @ryiin 5 лет назад +147

    I never seen as much running in a film that doesn't have Tom Cruise in.

  • @derrickwilliams1210
    @derrickwilliams1210 4 года назад +119

    All I was thinking was "Don't kill the midget!!"

    • @Cat_herders
      @Cat_herders 4 года назад +18

      Derrick Williams you have a problem with a little violence?

    • @Merdicano
      @Merdicano 4 года назад +9

      Haha, yeah, I really felt so bad for the little fella, he was just there shocked and terrified in the corner on how he witnessed the brutal killing of Randall, that I really was rooting for him to be spared, and it did

    • @Tan87ful
      @Tan87ful 4 года назад +1

      Manuel David Rendon Acevedo exactly

    • @georgeposadas5028
      @georgeposadas5028 4 года назад +2

      This movie had me shook. I was on my toes the whole time. Best joker movie ever. One of my favorites.

    • @arthurfleck816
      @arthurfleck816 4 года назад +1

      We don’t call them midgets anymore. They prefer to be referred to as a “Little person”.

  • @bavindrasawh2272
    @bavindrasawh2272 5 лет назад +59

    I love that Todd could have just made a small movie about society and instead he turns that into a comic film to get more attention to the film and the message he was saying

  • @jacobreeves3110
    @jacobreeves3110 5 лет назад +65

    Alfred wasn't all bad. What would you do if you saw a stranger holding the head of a child under your care. I'd freak out!

    • @cashaetaylor7466
      @cashaetaylor7466 4 года назад +1

      But the child wasn't screaming, yelling, or showing any signs of being afraid.
      🤷‍♀️🤔

    • @mohammedsakib5
      @mohammedsakib5 4 года назад +1

      well he did recognize aurther fleck and understood that he was Thomas' waynes son. He is just as guilty for turning his back on him.

    • @superryo008
      @superryo008 4 года назад +4

      @@mohammedsakib5 he's not Thomas's son though

    • @jordangate7742
      @jordangate7742 4 года назад +4

      Cashew Taylor ummm the dude put his thumbs inside a kid's mouth

    • @mohammedsakib5
      @mohammedsakib5 4 года назад +1

      @@superryo008 did you not watch the movie. The initials on penny flecks photo

  • @Rachel-xf1yc
    @Rachel-xf1yc 4 года назад +71

    Arthur just needed to get a dog, it would listen and love him unconditionally.

  • @Duke_Togo_G13
    @Duke_Togo_G13 5 лет назад +184

    When he kills his mother, the Joker is born.

    • @joshuaceballos5478
      @joshuaceballos5478 4 года назад +71

      I disagree its when he kills the 3 guys when he dances in the bathroom was his entrance to the world

    • @Gongolongo
      @Gongolongo 4 года назад +7

      @@joshuaceballos5478 I agree. Pacing and tone changes drastically.

    • @evanparra4866
      @evanparra4866 4 года назад

      i agree.

    • @cunt4724
      @cunt4724 4 года назад +43

      I don't think so. When he kills the 3 guys and dances, that's when the Joker is born. Arthur and Joker co-exist until he kills his mother. Arthur dies with his mother and the Joker takes over.

    • @Mandalore1999
      @Mandalore1999 4 года назад +26

      To me, when Arthur got up during the car accident and when Bruce’s parents died. That’s when joker and batman were both at the same time

  • @OscarJaraJr
    @OscarJaraJr 5 лет назад +145

    I love how this film in a way, STILL doesn’t show Joker’s origins. Is he Wayne’s son? Did he forge the papers? Or is he really adopted? His past is still a mystery even though this shows you his Joker origins

    • @ddgs07
      @ddgs07 4 года назад +30

      Oscar Jara He is NOT the son of Thomas Wayne. He was adopted, and his mother was delusional. How exactly is that confusing to everyone?

    • @MythiPlayz
      @MythiPlayz 4 года назад +9

      @@ddgs07
      The thing is, in most protrayls of the main DC universe(be it comics or live action or animated flicks), Thomas Wayne is often written quite scarcely about and what is known about his character is what we, as the readers, get from characters like Alfred Pennyworth, Jim Gordon, etc... we never know for sure if Wayne is really as good as he is spoken of, think a Havery Dent situation from TDKR.
      Why wouldn't Thomas do things other rich people do, he could rouge and nobody would give 2 shits about him going rouge for a couple of hours; because he's a fucking Wayne!

    • @davidthomas3826
      @davidthomas3826 4 года назад +16

      I thought that was ambivalent too. Whether his mother was actually mad or was she committed to an asylum by Thomas Wayne when their affair was becoming a problem. My question is why doesn't Arthur remember being abused as a child? Is it because his mental illness blots out the abuse... or it never happened

    • @silasbrookschannel
      @silasbrookschannel 4 года назад

      Oscar Jara true! Or was it all just a “joke” that he was thinking about as he sat in the mental ward with the psychiatrist at the end, and wasn’t true at all?

    • @F117DJS
      @F117DJS 4 года назад +3

      “If I'm going to have a past, I prefer it to be multiple choice!”

  • @sombhattacharyya
    @sombhattacharyya 4 года назад +15

    The last scene was perfect. Philips did not miss his mark. That music is the music of total madness and lack of reason where Arthur resides now.

  • @lorenzoparaphernalia7523
    @lorenzoparaphernalia7523 5 лет назад +37

    My favorite line was “I just don’t want to feel bad anymore...”

  • @Coltrain93
    @Coltrain93 5 лет назад +143

    I think the end scene was probably just a nod to jokers unpredictable nature in the comics

    • @Stayler17
      @Stayler17 5 лет назад +23

      ikr Grace didn't get it. The ending was great, because killing people horribly is funny and natural to the Joker. That ending was perfect.

    • @phoenixking2406
      @phoenixking2406 5 лет назад +5

      I think the end of the film may point out that Joker’s story was all in his head. This movie is a masterpiece

    • @samanthagutierrez2615
      @samanthagutierrez2615 5 лет назад +5

      Exactly. That was Joker- not Arthur anymore

    • @gzamora25
      @gzamora25 5 лет назад

      All of you get likes. You got the point. Gotta disagree with Graceland on this one.

  • @DeadFreakingPool
    @DeadFreakingPool 4 года назад +16

    Don't think this needs a sequel. It shouldn't have one. It accomplished everything it intended to do in this powerful standalone.

    • @1D4ever
      @1D4ever 4 года назад +1

      I agree unless you tie in Batman

  • @BARCtrooper01
    @BARCtrooper01 5 лет назад +82

    If Joker 🃏 doesn’t get an award I’m goin to riot...........
    In my room!!!!

    • @sMASHsound
      @sMASHsound 4 года назад +4

      everyone gets what they deserve!!!!

    • @shayZero
      @shayZero 4 года назад +5

      *fbi open up*

    • @g.w.7893
      @g.w.7893 4 года назад

      I'm with ya.

    • @rishabhsingh1913
      @rishabhsingh1913 4 года назад

      Just, stop watching Oscars already. This movie isn't getting any love from them anyway.

  • @Formallyknownashandle
    @Formallyknownashandle 5 лет назад +134

    Does anyone else feel like this is DC’s niche and they should build around these kind of gritty movies instead of “competing” with Marvel?

    • @publicdomain9971
      @publicdomain9971 5 лет назад +5

      that would be nice but warner bros execs have made it clear they wont stop chasing a cinematic universe no matter what.

    • @weskercarr6622
      @weskercarr6622 5 лет назад +1

      Yes because they can do alot more interesting stories instead of batman or superman

    • @Formallyknownashandle
      @Formallyknownashandle 5 лет назад +2

      public domain they could still do a cinematic universe. It would just be a very grounded, real take on the charters dealing with societal issues and not so much a comedic superpower blockbusters like Marvel does. I can easily see Wonder Woman, Joker and Christopher Nolan’s Dark Knight trilogy existing in the same cinematic universe.

    • @weskercarr6622
      @weskercarr6622 5 лет назад

      I wish we could get a live wire film that would be dope

    • @cordelllongstreath741
      @cordelllongstreath741 5 лет назад +1

      DC does have a track record. Winter soldier is the only mcu film on the level of joker and dark knight

  • @michaelsanangelo3473
    @michaelsanangelo3473 4 года назад +17

    When Grace starts to tear up about a movie it’s contagious.

  • @jameskelton3718
    @jameskelton3718 5 лет назад +167

    Grace. This film has brought a piece of modern America commentary out of you. It may have begun as a review but the art of it has effected you and - in return - you are ably sharing that with us. Bravo. I will see this now. And - I'm glad you blew off "Judy" to devote more time to this.

    • @rondelmoore7130
      @rondelmoore7130 5 лет назад +2

      Affected*

    • @anacarolinavallarino6428
      @anacarolinavallarino6428 5 лет назад +1

      This is more important than Judy

    • @shadowseer07
      @shadowseer07 5 лет назад +5

      I don't always agree with Grace, but this commentary was so on point!

    • @magicfanben
      @magicfanben 5 лет назад +2

      James Kelton Couldn’t agree more. This is as good a piece of commentary as she’s ever had.

    • @th3r3dr3dkroovy
      @th3r3dr3dkroovy 4 года назад

      WE’RE NOT GONNA TALK ABOUT JUDY

  • @usernames2328
    @usernames2328 5 лет назад +115

    When Arthur got into the fridge that was a mood

    • @rjohndonahue8262
      @rjohndonahue8262 5 лет назад +9

      User Names yeah, wtf! Thought it was an attempted suicide then never explained (that i saw).

    • @Zhello79
      @Zhello79 5 лет назад

      Kyle Rayner mood

    • @Darko-cn1oj
      @Darko-cn1oj 5 лет назад +16

      User Names i think he was just trying to get cool since it was in the 1980s and he was pretty much living in the poorer side of the city with no air condition

    • @Possiblyabandaid
      @Possiblyabandaid 5 лет назад +16

      I took it as a metaphor for him calming down as much as possible for what he was about to do. Or possibly from what he had just done.
      Take your pick.

    • @2chickenbone
      @2chickenbone 5 лет назад +2

      @@Possiblyabandaid Or as Mr Freeze would say, "Chill" I would imagine him being hot & pumped full of adrenaline after what he did, so im not suprised he went into a cold fridge, also being more isolated from the chaos around him.

  • @dimsim21
    @dimsim21 4 года назад +16

    The last scene just proves that Arthur ‘has nothing to lose’ and didn’t care anymore

  • @paulmccloud9395
    @paulmccloud9395 5 лет назад +21

    I thought it was quite clear that he became the Joker that we know in that very final scene. The rest of the movie was telling the story of how. He was no longer Arthur at that point.

    • @cadenceangel
      @cadenceangel 5 лет назад

      No doubt.

    • @BilsonBoi
      @BilsonBoi 5 лет назад

      The fact that he made some people feel that he did too much in that final scene is perfect.. that’s how the Joker makes people feel constantly..

  • @omeshsingh8091
    @omeshsingh8091 5 лет назад +163

    Also... The musical score is sublime. Cinematography was also phenomenal.

    • @ArtofLunatik
      @ArtofLunatik 5 лет назад

      Omesh Singh yup score is awesome

    • @santiagoromero3475
      @santiagoromero3475 5 лет назад

      What is "score"? I keep seeing that term but I'm not sure what it means

    • @phillippepym1560
      @phillippepym1560 5 лет назад +1

      Santiago Romero the music.

    • @Wolvy114
      @Wolvy114 5 лет назад +2

      I was gushing over the cinematography for the entire movie. This should be shown in film classes because it was so beautifully and symbolically shot. Everything from framing to lighting to the angles of power and everything else. This movie was just beautiful.

    • @Evil_Vegan
      @Evil_Vegan 5 лет назад +1

      Also costume!!! Looove that red suit! Untraditional color palette but totally a strong look for this incarnation!

  • @crispinrovere
    @crispinrovere 4 года назад +103

    Saw the "super rats" when the Wayne's were shot.

    • @ronicave8522
      @ronicave8522 4 года назад +2

      And also when Joker killed the three guys in the subway.

    • @rustyshield
      @rustyshield 4 года назад +2

      They were seen, when joker was talking in the phone booth as well(first appearance)

    • @blossomlight2719
      @blossomlight2719 4 года назад +1

      They can introduce Rat-Catcher character in the future if they make a sequel. Gotham in this movie have a good foundation to introduce Rat-Catcher and Gary as Gaggy, joker sidekick

  • @davychan101
    @davychan101 5 лет назад +29

    I don't know why everyone is making such a big deal about the violence, I really didn't think it was that bad.

    • @aos1762
      @aos1762 4 года назад +2

      GOT is more violent

    • @Poglavnit_Pferdefuhrer
      @Poglavnit_Pferdefuhrer 4 года назад +1

      If they decide to make another one like this....
      You _Really_ want to spark a panic?
      Go with Zsasz!

    • @vikitawindarwati4237
      @vikitawindarwati4237 4 года назад

      Yeah, it was not that gory or anything

    • @rohithkumar8708
      @rohithkumar8708 4 года назад +1

      Yea it didn't even feel like violence . I honestly thought this could've easily been a pg13 movie. There were some swear words here and there. Feels like swearing was the only thing that gave it a r rating

    • @Zinshy1
      @Zinshy1 4 года назад +1

      I dont think its the violence itself, but the context and how its done. I dont know about you but to me when there was violence it felt very real, much more real than most movies I have seen.

  • @LxyD
    @LxyD 5 лет назад +23

    I probably sat there for the whole time the credits was rolling even though i know there's not a post credit scene coming. That's when you know that this is some real shit.