Velocity Systems Jungle Rig: An Overview and Review
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- Опубликовано: 6 апр 2022
- An overview and review of the Velsyst Jungle Rig.
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Well done, great info. Concur on Nelson as a great source for gear. I believe the Brits/Commonwealth countries set the standard on belt order/kit. You don't see butt packs being used. My guess is as you noted it is hard to get it "tight". Looking forward to more!
The bum pack has been dropped because it's all about in out of vehicles easily. But they still get used in Australia. That little bit extra you can get in a bum pack...moderate temps here compared to Northen hemisphere. Hootchie ground sheet sox jumper rations beanie/ bally hexi gas stove for brews. You can jam more in tie hootch on or separately shelter pouch. Basically to not have one is a step back. You can dump your pack and live off your webbing including bedding down. You often see Brits tie ponchos shelters jungle bag rolled in it or a jumper. You can get that mostly in a bum pack. Funnily enough when he said the butt pack is large..I'm thinking it's a bit small compared to ones here
Brit kit is good
VERY nice rig! I moved from chest rigs to a belt kit in the last 2 yrs and if it wasn’t for the lead time during the coof, I would have went with the jungle rig. I got the Jay Jays Chameleon webbing and added some of my own pouches after careful selection. Belt kit really is the best rural dismounted option.
Jay jays makes good kit
They also work well if you're on a motorcycle.
Just liked and Subd I’m an old Cold War Sgt. Belt Kilt is for dismounted troops. Paracord was helpful to lock in Alice clips and to attach a strip of green closed cell mat as an inner belt. Electrical tape green foam wherever on your kit for comfort. 4 -30 rd triple Alice pouches in front for combat. 2 GI cups better than one. Liked your rig. Today, my mission set is different. I run 4 lines of gear. Which has either a primary and or secondary weapon and field support system. Each functions alone or together, and can be stashed when moving from suburban to rural and back. My Belt Kit starts with a Condor pistol belt for on the fly adjustment for seasonal clothing and comfort. All Alice pouches are zipped tied on. Also run MOLLE pouches too. Because I live in Virginia near the mountains my concealed pistol can legally go to open carry. To the right I have a kydex holster for G19; Alice Tripple 30 rd pouch for whatever I need and Peltor ears attached to it; next pouch holds a Gatorade. Rear SAW pouch can hold either a Gortex rain jacket or micro fleece shirt or other kit. Left rear side: space for an extra 556 mag or radio pouch or canteen; next dump pouch; then kangaroo pouch for 30 rd 556 mag and 15 round pistol mag. Pouch for pepper gel. I sewed up a side by side 556 chest rig with IFAK pouch and two larger pistol mag pouches for leather man and pistol mag. Below but still attached is a small waist pack. With Safety glasses, small bottle of Windex, back up ear plugs, some snicker bars, Gatorade mix, spare batteries, gun oil, lighter. Small back pack holds 2 liter bladder, and anything else I will need. Small pack can store under Alice Ruck lid. The Alice Ruck is my resupply and other field gear. The ability to keep the weight evenly distributed and light for the task at hand, and to plus up or down kit is handy. You can attach your buttpack to the rear webbing, but a better option would be to attach a horizontal stuff sack just above your GP pouches like the Finnish troops used to do, if you don’t want to run a small day pack so it’s easily accessible and removable from your webbing, reducing the amount of kit to be carried. Given all the back injury from heavy Chest rigs you are going in the right direction.
Good to know.
Very detailed review. As soon as you said MacVSog I subbed. I can tell you put a lot of thought into your system and this was informative and worth the watch for sure. Keep up the content!
Thank you
I love having a belt kit. I think it just works well and makes sense. Can also be used in conjunction with armor or chest rigs or ruck sacks. Great improvement on the old surplus gear too.
Not sure how you'd use this comfortably with a ruck sack
Yep. Its good.
great info dude, appreciate the solid review on a piece of kit that is highly sought after. this is next patrol purchase for sure. 👍
Its solid for dismounted patrol for sure.
i have been using British plce belt kit for a bit now. i am really thinking about trying the velsys kit. Outstanding video thanks for taking the time to make it.
Brit kit is good
Great video stoked to see more content of it in action.
Thanks
Ordered mine a week or two ago. Super excited.
May it serve you well
Love the setup. I would suggest with the crye night cap that you add a counter weight to it. Once I did that, I loved that thing. Funny you mention British Kits. I have been experimenting with one for a while and after this video and a few others it's jungle kit all day. I rock Velocity systems everything already, stoked to start training with a similar. Finally, you had me laughing about the Ozark Jungle. I know exactly what you mean!
Will try the counterweight.
Nice GP pouches.
The hole setup in quite nice.
Thanks for sharing
I like the loop pkm Smersh pouches for gp pouches. Pull tab is handy and it has plastic inserts to make it more ridged.
Will check those out.
Sam,that a solid review of good a belt kit, good choice of pouches and content.. like the reference to the old mac v guy's a lots can be learnt of looking into the past..atb from over the pond..
Thank you
The skinny jeans and flannel shirt gives you instant credibility. How do you not have 200k subscribers yet?
No clue, but im okay with it. Lol
Yes yes yes. Love to see it.
Thanks
Thanks for sharing pretty good setup
Thanks
That’s a great looking piece of kit
Its solid kit
Biggest gripe is the 3/4 buckles on the mag pouches. I've been on the fence about getting full sized buckles hard mounted/stitched on
Yeah the buckles really are the issue.
Get yourself a Brit pattern 58 canteen. They're cheap and Gucci compared to our canteens. Wide mouth and more compact and the cap isn't annoying like the usgi one
Will check those out. Thanks.
Good video and the observations are spot on. I have a set in MC and RG. The butt pack sucks and is best used as a Basha pouch on your ruck
Pretty much
The buckles being inverted seems like a huge oversight on velocities part. The only thing I can think of is that letting the longer end fall may reduce the chance of the buckles hitting each other and making noise if left open
Yeah im sure there is a reason they did it, but i cant figure it out. Lol
Love the cat holders.
Yeah T3 gear makes some great TQ pouches. Their new gen looks even better.
Another good thing about keeping a TQ coveted is that UV rays will break down the material.
Absolutely.
Really enjoyed this video. Very in depth with explanations on why the goods / bads.
One question though. What shirt is that? I need to cop one!
Man its either columbia or pfg. Cant remember. Fishing shirt i snagged at goodwill for a buck.
Good stuff... can't believe they didnt use fixed female ITW buckles on the mag pouches. Good luck trying to fasten those with one hand under any kind of stress... reminds me of trying to fasten an M56 mag pouch...
Pretty much the issue for sure.
Yeaaah... definitely not the kind of BS you want with a $600 belt rig. Yuck.
Great video, I tried the Helikon Tex belt rig, I know it’s not something like this but I’m honestly a fan of chest rigs but I think belt kits are cool and I’m glad to see more Infantrymen type stuff. Where can I find the link to the discord? Also that’s a cool idea with the aqua tabs on the canteen.
Belt and chest all have their purposes.
Literally ordered the ranger green butt pack 5.56 one last night. Wish I would of known about Nelson Uniform though, they're definitely cheaper
Sorry. 🤷🏼♂️
The buckles are like that on my pantac and flyye 1195j belt kit as with all of my blackhawk larks. Even the first gens. Now on the usgi woodland molle they are the opposite.
Good to know.
Sounds like you do some pretty solid training.
Would have loved to see a closeup on the actual belt. Im unclear on what parts have hook/loop.
Awesome. 👏🏼
Thanks
How does this work with a pack? I like the idea of just throwing everything on over your layers. Seems pretty easy to shed quickly and add or subtract clothing layers quickly.
Can not wait to setup Smersh
Smersh is good. Especially for combloc
Great video, wish you would've shown how it sits/hangs when you wear it.
Check my instagram and the article i wrote on hitthewoodline.org. Several photos of it on. With and without ruck.
@@samculpepper7289 thanks, I'll go check those out!
Great review. Have you looked at the Nixieworks Light fighter? I wonder how that would compare to Velocity Systems.
Yes and no. I get the lightfighter in theory, but idk about use. However ive not tried one personally.
Just bought this
Where do you get those bungees for magazine compression
Nice video. Can anyone answer me why the GP Pouch (61) is half the cost as the canteen pouch ($128) other than the 3/4 vs 1 inch buckles?
2 questions.
Can you wear this system while using a MALICE pack?
Will the canteen pouches run 308 mags?
Is this the General Purpose version or the BP version
Good review - shame about the buckles. That will drive me nuts as well. I have really been wanting to get this setup, but I’m going to have to think harder on it now. I am pretty handy, though, so I may be able to modify the straps and buckles.
Its a downfall for sure.
Commenting to uprank. Also cool kit.
Thanks
Awesome awesome awesome
Gracias amigo
my only concern with jungle rigs / belt rigs is compatibility of a ruck. I have a eberlestock pack. Would not want to get a smaller pack just for a belt kit
nice rig, no poncho/tarp?
The VelSyst 417/SAW pouch has the better buckle setup as well.
Seen that not too long ago. Interesting.
For the belt itself, do you think that a more padded/rigid belt would be better? i was looking at doing this exact kit, except with the laser cut HSGI belt because it is more padded/rigid
Honestly no. The factory velsyst belt is pretty perfect. Your hips tend to thank the fact that its not like a barrel band around your waist as time goes on. Some replace the inner belt with something more rigid like a riggers if they want some more stiffness, but the outer is fine.
Will any of these pouches hold ak47 mags???
After using the jungle rig and the Nixieworks LFR, which do you prefer? Would like to hear your thoughts on that.
I still prefer the jungle rig of the two. Both are great. Just personal preference of the modularity of the jungle rig is what i enjoy.
We called these webgear since before vietnam.
I quess it called a battle belt now days.
Excellent video, I just wish the audio was better
Thats something im working on. Was just using my phone propped up. Audio seems better using the go-pro, but will continue to make the quality better.
I'd love to see more people on Gab to get away from the censorship.
The problem with gab is that no one here is on it and the people on gab don’t care about this content; it’s a lose lose for creators.
Ill check that out
Just purchased the suspenders and the belt. I'm going to have to build it piece by piece. If you wanted to carry a pistol how would you go about doing that?
Safariland makes molle forks. That or a holster like from tactical tailor. I have some posts covering that on my IG.
How do you feel about vehicle ops with this belt set up?
Its not the best. Its doable. Really depends on the vehicle and duration.
At $600 that belt better be out killing bad guys while I sleep. Absolutely ridiculous price. My (modified) 782 gear accomplishes the same thing.
A wise man told me:
"Your gucci gear won't matter, if you suck at PT and dont train"
I can imagine all of the fat bodies, who splurged on this kit, probably cant even do a 200 yard sprint in it.
Hey man, can thise tq pouches be mounted horizontal? I've checked thier site and wasn't able to find anything.
Not that i know of unless you have horizontal molle webbing.
Looking at the sheath that’s a gerber knife
Yup now I see that slanted head that’s Gerber all day..
Why ranger green if you had Multicam in the pas?
I like the colorway more. It goes well with tiger stripe. Lol
I like how we are going back to ALICE gear or something like it. Full circle
Pretty much
Ouch! You never go with mag pouches for old school type LBE.. no matter who makes them.. you always go canteen or GP depending on the manufacturer and you get 1 extra mag in basically the same size pouch..
You done need to mess around with fixing it.. just go army surplus store and by some old lbe alice stuff.
Have you seen any real advantage to the LRRP style 3 pocket butt pack?
Eh. Im not a fan of buttpacks in general really it seems.
Will the canteen pouches holds 5 Pmags?
Yes but its very tight.
@@samculpepper7289 thanks
You can get a lc1 Alice set up for like $40 and spend the rest of that money on ammo
Would like to see how it sits when worn
I feel like i wore it in this video or another on here. If not there are several of it being worn on my instagram.
@@samculpepper7289 awesome thanks
I'd like to see a comparison to nixieworks
In reality they are too different schools of thought. About the only comparison is they are both belt kit.
That is the nicest gear belt iv ever seen just wish the wind wasn't so loud but ya very nice. And did you say your from Missouri ??? .
Ozarks. Working on better equipment for better quality videos.
How is it going prone with a rig like this?
Just fine. There is a video on my instagram over it.
Can you link your MilX video in the description?
I will try
👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Thanks
Good vid, good info. Downside I don't hear well, wind noise is really bad, where are you Wyoming?
Nah. Top of mountain in the ozarks. Working on better equipment.
I should’ve waited till this was over and made one long comment lol.. don’t put hard items in with your nvgs.. you can tuck a lot of your sniv around, under and in top should always be a boonie.. generally I like one of my spare socks under the nvgs then I’ll wrap them in some sniv or gators then place my head wear or gators (depending on environment and how much I need the gators…)
Are all of these stated to me or someone else? Your not making a ton of sense. Just saying.
I know this is old. But if you haven’t gotten rid of your butt pack yet. I’ll buy it
this cost so much. god dame. im looking at britsh webbing and this other small company
Brit webbing is certainly an option, its also a different animal than the jungle rig.
Bro you didn’t even put it on lol
Ok you are worried about briers and such but got the hook and lope style belt setup? Come on man.. for those of us that have to deal with that kind of stuff there is two things you never use.. #1 is cheap breathable mesh.. you’ll never get everything out of them lol.. second is exposed velcro.. I mean you can use a soft wire brush to clean but it wears the hook and loop out fast. And exposed velcro will collect as much crap as mesh will..
🤦♂️metal/cup canteens so you can put them on a fire..
Also fyi.. mayflower is velocity systems😂
ok no fault in the one plastic and one metal canteen. I spoke too soon.. I’d still run two metal though..
I feel like this is screaming for a Brit PLCE harness.
I actually like the minimal harness that velsyst does. Makes layering under pack straps a breeze.
Can I buy the buttpack from you?
Please invest in a Lav mic.
Will look into it.
That's a lot of weight on that belt ,all those mags on the front of the hip , you need those on a plate carrier 3 in front 2 under arm each side, including the one your rifle 8 , but the weight would be flat against your body, (smaller profile)and easier to move quickly ,in or out, or run . Do some research on Special forces guys that Have been in war there are Real warriors on YT that review their Kits. There's the problem with your kit , you can't run with that , getting into vehicles, making yourself small in tight places, going through door openings, hoping over things , if you were in war you would need a P.C. therefore you would spread that load out on it ,. for all these reasons . That heavy bulky fat belt rig would slow you down and get you killed , I'm sorry.. but that's the truth.
Lmao this is the dumbest thing I've read in a while
Sigh
“You need a plate carrier because the SF guys fighting an insurgency out of humvees with a multi billion dollar support structure and unlimited resources used them and lost” get a grip buddy
I must've missed it, but did you discuss sewing in loops for the top of your buttpack to attach the harness too? I served in the early 90's so LBE is near and dear, and using chest rigs, just seem to overheat me climbing mountains, etc. Theres gotta be some study done with chest rigs and heat injuries... Anyways, I have one of those Eagle Ind. take on the LBE that they were issuing in the early to late teens. Ditched the flotation pads inside, and I love the buttpack. But same roll. I always mod my gear with that handstiching awl and figured that what I was going to do next. Its not pretty, but its solid. Thanks for sharing
The velsyst attaches at the highest point it can on the buttpack. Its actually a couple of inches above the height of the buttpack.
Can I buy the buttpack from you?
No. Sorry.