Remember Kosh's line from the first episode, when Sinclair asked Kosh if he'd attend the meeting about the Narn Centauri conflict? "They are alone, They are a dying people, We should let them pass.", Sinclair asks: "Who, the Narn or the Centauri?", Kosh answers "YES!" It so much looks like today, people obsessed with each other's death.
The suicide mission for Eriksson / Bryan Cranston... yea. It's one thing to go into a firefight, knowing you may not make it out. Maybe even knowing the odds are bad, and you probably won't make it out. I imagine it has to cranked up *several* notches to know it is absolutely certain you will not make it out, and in fact, the mission *requires* that you do not make it out.
And it was so, SO moving to watch the demeanor of the non-aligned worlds delegates in the back of the War Room as the import of Sheridan's ask dawned on Eriksson.
Catherin Sakai to Sinclair: And which are you? ‘An idle king doling unequal laws unto a savage race that hoard and sleep and feed and know not you?’ Or ‘This gray spirit yearning in desire to follow knowledge like a sinking star.’
I crack up every time Vir jokes with Londo and ends up saying "Kill Londo!" Yep, that's a mood killer... lol. Pair that with Londo's gentle words to Vir when he discovers Vir drunk... and G'Kar's admonition to the other Narn and his near breakdown. Such a good episode! (Showing my age, but this episode made me want to use that Tennyson line as my senior yearbook quote.)
Londo is at his heart, a staunch patriot. But he's got Quite a bit of penance due for all that he's done to get here. The Technomage Elric did not lie when he said he heard millions of voices crying out Londo's name... and they were his victims. Bringing down Refa and Cartagia both is huge, but Londo was still the man to make the Faustian Bargain for power, and to unleash War upon his people and the Narn, in pursuit of lost glories of days gone by. Maybe it would have happened anyway. Refa had been working on his ambitions long before Londo gained any prominence. But Londo dealt himself in.
"What have I endured?" And what he did after that. That, right there, is the epicenter of my love and admiration for G'Kar and Andreas Katsulas. It's like, 'Well? Ask a silly question,' and sometimes the only way to answer is to laugh like a madman. The first time I saw this episode, I was 17, and I had no idea he was going to react like that. I was stunned and also tearing up. Brilliant, brilliant performance by Andreas the whole of the way. I wish he was still with us, and I will forever regret that I didn't pay more attention.
Just found you. Thank you for reacting to this show it is one of my favorites. I am very much looking forward to watching the rest of the show with you. The parallels between this show and what was happening at the time irl astounded me at the time. The parallels between what is happening now irl and this show rhyme, more is the pity.
The Narn/Centauri conflict is a reminder to not obsess over the sins of the past from either side. The Narn in season 1 kept poking the bear and felt justified because of past wrongs. The emperor was obsessed with atoning for the sins of his fathers, creating resentment in his own people, which led to people like Londo and Reefa putting a monster like Cartagia on the throne and their people cheering. It was true that the Centauri were privileged... but focusing on that led to disaster. Better to treat the Narn as equals rather than disadvantaged children to be taken care of. The Narn didn't want Centauri help and it just created more Centauri nationalistic pride.
So how political and military figures around the world haven't studied this show, I'm confounded. Heck, even NASA tried to get the schematics for a Starfury. This show has so much for us....
The B5 work pod or whatever that has a starfury cockpit and a set of engines reset on trusses is the perfect station utility craft. The best design is the configuration that is shared by the starfury and gunstar from the last Starfighter.
Oh, Vir. He did it. Not the right thing, but the necessary thing, The distress is so great. In Valen's name ... I love G'Kar more than ever .... "What have I endured? hahahaha...." Andreas plays that pitch perfect. Be seeing you!
My phone started acting up on a respose on the NASA starfury plan. The Starfury/Gunstar configuration is the best for a space fighter or utility work craft. Four main engines fore and aft pluss secondary thrusters on each side then top or bottom of each. Technically you could get by with three and turn in any direction but four gives a spare and more ballenced for straight 90 degree turn changes left/right up/down. In a few episodes you see a workcraft that looks like a Starfury with two engines remounted on trusses and wings removed. NASA helped to make the show with JPL in the credits, providing a lot of the nebula like backgrounds. JPL standing for Jet Propulsion Laboratories of NASA put the people at NASA designing such craft in close contact with the show producers and when they saw the designs had already worked out a basic design they asked to borrow it. NASA being Government they need to convince Congress they need something before they can even begin to design it or even sugest a cost. When Scifi can show something and what it can do that is in reach, then NASA can say this would realy be useful and we think we can build it for $X. Also why Elon is now leading over NASA with them buying most the rides he is not filling with his new network. Also NASA's budgets being redone each year kills projects that take longer. The replacement Shuttles that were diamond shaped like some shown in B5 were nearly finished with two and two more frames were made. They even had at the time a NASA online site that showed them being built. They had a white top and black bottom like the old shuttle but carried the fuel for launch instead of the SRBs and Tank outside. Ice would not be flying to damage the boosters or the tiles causing Challenger & Columbia. Had they been finished as planned, the mini shuttles delivered, and an upgrade with boosters we would be on Mars by now. Elon has revived much of those goals and is on his way, but until he has his own station to build a ship, Mars is still out of Human reach.
@@sdfried4877 Ukraine is less of a proxy in that Russia is DIRECTLY invading In other battles it was fought in other countries, unconnected physically....
@@FSMDog Yes, that’s why I said the US. We have propped up the Ukraine government we helped install for the past year with the openly stated intent being to degrade Russia’s forces, crush their economy and kill Russians. As Lindsay Graham says, “Russians are dying and it’s the best money we’ve ever spent.” But is it really? The Ukrainian troops have died 4 to 1 over the Russians, there are almost no fighting aged men left in the country and they’ve lost the war anyway, as was always inevitable.
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The thing about Cartagia is that he was only in 5 episodes, but it always feels like half a season. Amazing performance by the actor.
100% I'm always amazed at how few episodes characters like Cartagia, Morden, and Neroon appear in, because they have SO MUCH PRESENCE.
He was mentioned a few times at the back end of the prior season too...
@@FSMDog true, but we had no idea how bad it really was haha
Not to gorget: Bester was in very few episodes, too, but his presence ...@@michaelmammano-cheydleur2651
I love G'kar's line "They are lost people! They ought to be pitied. They are already on course for self-destruction."
Remember Kosh's line from the first episode, when Sinclair asked Kosh if he'd attend the meeting about the Narn Centauri conflict?
"They are alone, They are a dying people, We should let them pass.", Sinclair asks: "Who, the Narn or the Centauri?", Kosh answers "YES!"
It so much looks like today, people obsessed with each other's death.
The suicide mission for Eriksson / Bryan Cranston... yea. It's one thing to go into a firefight, knowing you may not make it out. Maybe even knowing the odds are bad, and you probably won't make it out. I imagine it has to cranked up *several* notches to know it is absolutely certain you will not make it out, and in fact, the mission *requires* that you do not make it out.
And it was so, SO moving to watch the demeanor of the non-aligned worlds delegates in the back of the War Room as the import of Sheridan's ask dawned on Eriksson.
His sacrifice is very reminiscent of the story told by Brother Edward about Jesus in the Garden Of Gethsemane.
Tennison. Commander Sinclair's favorite author.
Catherin Sakai to Sinclair: And which are you? ‘An idle king doling unequal laws unto a savage race that hoard and sleep and feed and know not you?’ Or ‘This gray spirit yearning in desire to follow knowledge like a sinking star.’
That quote at the end was from Sinclair
I crack up every time Vir jokes with Londo and ends up saying "Kill Londo!" Yep, that's a mood killer... lol.
Pair that with Londo's gentle words to Vir when he discovers Vir drunk...
and G'Kar's admonition to the other Narn and his near breakdown.
Such a good episode!
(Showing my age, but this episode made me want to use that Tennyson line as my senior yearbook quote.)
Londo is at his heart, a staunch patriot. But he's got Quite a bit of penance due for all that he's done to get here. The Technomage Elric did not lie when he said he heard millions of voices crying out Londo's name... and they were his victims. Bringing down Refa and Cartagia both is huge, but Londo was still the man to make the Faustian Bargain for power, and to unleash War upon his people and the Narn, in pursuit of lost glories of days gone by. Maybe it would have happened anyway. Refa had been working on his ambitions long before Londo gained any prominence. But Londo dealt himself in.
It’s possible that fate put Londo in the right place and the right time so that the ultimate outcome would be different.
"What have I endured?" And what he did after that. That, right there, is the epicenter of my love and admiration for G'Kar and Andreas Katsulas. It's like, 'Well? Ask a silly question,' and sometimes the only way to answer is to laugh like a madman. The first time I saw this episode, I was 17, and I had no idea he was going to react like that. I was stunned and also tearing up. Brilliant, brilliant performance by Andreas the whole of the way. I wish he was still with us, and I will forever regret that I didn't pay more attention.
Just found you. Thank you for reacting to this show it is one of my favorites. I am very much looking forward to watching the rest of the show with you. The parallels between this show and what was happening at the time irl astounded me at the time. The parallels between what is happening now irl and this show rhyme, more is the pity.
FUN FACT: It's never mentioned in the show, but Kosh 2.0's name is actually Ulkesh.
The Narn/Centauri conflict is a reminder to not obsess over the sins of the past from either side. The Narn in season 1 kept poking the bear and felt justified because of past wrongs. The emperor was obsessed with atoning for the sins of his fathers, creating resentment in his own people, which led to people like Londo and Reefa putting a monster like Cartagia on the throne and their people cheering. It was true that the Centauri were privileged... but focusing on that led to disaster. Better to treat the Narn as equals rather than disadvantaged children to be taken care of. The Narn didn't want Centauri help and it just created more Centauri nationalistic pride.
So how political and military figures around the world haven't studied this show, I'm confounded. Heck, even NASA tried to get the schematics for a Starfury. This show has so much for us....
The B5 work pod or whatever that has a starfury cockpit and a set of engines reset on trusses is the perfect station utility craft. The best design is the configuration that is shared by the starfury and gunstar from the last Starfighter.
Stephen Furst was superb in this episode
Oh, Vir. He did it. Not the right thing, but the necessary thing, The distress is so great.
In Valen's name ... I love G'Kar more than ever .... "What have I endured? hahahaha...." Andreas plays that pitch perfect.
Be seeing you!
CAT, I SEE BLACK CAT. HI CAT.
"...all alone in the night." From the intro voiceover.
You're correct, its AMAZING how well this relates to today's Geopolitical issues.
My phone started acting up on a respose on the NASA starfury plan. The Starfury/Gunstar configuration is the best for a space fighter or utility work craft. Four main engines fore and aft pluss secondary thrusters on each side then top or bottom of each. Technically you could get by with three and turn in any direction but four gives a spare and more ballenced for straight 90 degree turn changes left/right up/down. In a few episodes you see a workcraft that looks like a Starfury with two engines remounted on trusses and wings removed. NASA helped to make the show with JPL in the credits, providing a lot of the nebula like backgrounds. JPL standing for Jet Propulsion Laboratories of NASA put the people at NASA designing such craft in close contact with the show producers and when they saw the designs had already worked out a basic design they asked to borrow it. NASA being Government they need to convince Congress they need something before they can even begin to design it or even sugest a cost. When Scifi can show something and what it can do that is in reach, then NASA can say this would realy be useful and we think we can build it for $X. Also why Elon is now leading over NASA with them buying most the rides he is not filling with his new network. Also NASA's budgets being redone each year kills projects that take longer. The replacement Shuttles that were diamond shaped like some shown in B5 were nearly finished with two and two more frames were made. They even had at the time a NASA online site that showed them being built. They had a white top and black bottom like the old shuttle but carried the fuel for launch instead of the SRBs and Tank outside. Ice would not be flying to damage the boosters or the tiles causing Challenger & Columbia. Had they been finished as planned, the mini shuttles delivered, and an upgrade with boosters we would be on Mars by now. Elon has revived much of those goals and is on his way, but until he has his own station to build a ship, Mars is still out of Human reach.
I envy you, first time watching this show. If only I could forget the show and then have the joy of watching it for the first time again.
Erickson's ship must have a name: Walter White Star.
The shadows and Vorlons are the two superpowers oif Earth - USA and USSR who often fought 'proxy wars' - korea, vietnam etc....
The US is fighting one right now in Ukraine. Or I should say “was” since US interest and support has moved to Israel as the cause du jour.
@@sdfried4877 Ukraine is less of a proxy in that Russia is DIRECTLY invading
In other battles it was fought in other countries, unconnected physically....
@@FSMDog Yes, that’s why I said the US. We have propped up the Ukraine government we helped install for the past year with the openly stated intent being to degrade Russia’s forces, crush their economy and kill Russians. As Lindsay Graham says, “Russians are dying and it’s the best money we’ve ever spent.” But is it really? The Ukrainian troops have died 4 to 1 over the Russians, there are almost no fighting aged men left in the country and they’ve lost the war anyway, as was always inevitable.
I don’t know why you guys keep posting comments, she never ever replies to them.
So in the very last episode of the series, we see ...
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The giant space duck.
@@ianstopher9111 i guess that’s one way to avoid being spoiled by comments - never ever read them or interact with your community in any way.
@@sdfried4877 The Soul Cake Duck, the Tooth Fairy, Death, the Hogfather, and....
yeah guys, she never replies. you’re wasting your time 🤦🏻♀️