The giant spider, Shelob, isn’t truly a spider (the pincers and stinger being a giveaway). She’s demonic creature, a spawn of a creature called Ungoliant that came from the void outside creation-an endless appetite of unliving darkness that took the shape of a spider. It once allied itself with Morgoth, Sauron’s master, and brought ruin and poison to the Elves, beginning their long vendetta against Morgoth and later Sauron. Of course Ungoliant turned against Morgoth and would have eaten him if he hadn’t summoned his Balrogs to drive it away with their whips. Like Shelob, no one knows what happened to Ungoliant when she left the story; it’s hoped she fled into the dark places of the earth and, in hunger and madness, ate herself.
@@BreakingCinema its crazy to think that between Gandalf freeing him from the poison of Grima's words and his death on the fields of the Pelennor was only 13 days apart. He was freed on March 2nd and died March 15th
Lava cools very quickly on the surface, forming a crust within minutes, but the interior of a thick lava flow can take several months to years to completely cool depending on its depth, with very thick flows potentially taking decades to solidify fully; a typical 15-foot thick flow can take over 130 days to cool to a temperature around 290 degrees Fahrenheit.
Tolkien outright said in one of his letters, 246 to be exact; no one could have destroyed the Ring willfully in the place of its making where its power was absolute. Only an act of chance or Providence could have destroyed it. In other words the Ring could only be destroyed by accident or by direct intervention by Eru'Illuvitar (God). Anyone weaker then Frodo would have never made it as far as he did and anyone stronger would have succumb to the Rings temptation. As Elrond said Frodo was chosen by Providence to take this quest on but notice no where does anyone ask Frodo to destroy the Ring. Only take the Ring to Mordor, with the goal of its destruction in mind. And yes in the end Frodo technically fails, he succumbs to the Ring and claims it. However i will refer to the professors letter about his thoughts on Frodo's failure. "I do not think that Frodo's was a moral failure. At the last moment the pressure of the Ring would reach its maximum - impossible, I should have said, for any one to resist, certainly after long possession, months of increasing torment, and when starved and exhausted. Frodo had done what he could and spent himself completely (as an instrument of Providence) and had produced a situation in which the object of his quest could be achieved. His humility (with which he began) and his sufferings were justly rewarded by the highest honour; and his exercise of patience and mercy towards Gollum gained him Mercy: his failure was redressed."
I’ve always thought that generally people are a little harsh on Frodo, but dude, this excerpt you’ve shared really makes me admire Frodo even more. Thanks!
@@AdamsBombin Frodo is a hero unlike we are used to in modern stories. He is a pretty humble guy who does what he does not for personal gain or fame but to protect his home. He never thought himself adequate enough to take on the quest which ironically made him uniquely qualified to do it. However even Tolkien said Sam is the real hero of the story, and its emotional heart. Actually in one of the drafts before release Frodo and Sam get elven titles to honor their deeds. Bronwe athan Harthad and Harthad Uluithiad, "Endurance beyond Hope" and "Hope Unquenchable". Its one of those lines i wish made it into the final draft.
This is great backstory. I've not read the books yet but will love that day when it comes. It makes sense. Frodo's true self was at that last moment, overwhelmed and compromised. No one could've done a better job or taken it further. I can't help but think of what Frodo said to Gollum in The Two Towers when Gollum swore on the ring to serve the master of the ring, Frodo. "the ring is treacherous, it will hold you to your oath". Gollum lied and the ring did end up killing him. I've always wondered if Tolkien ever addressed that.
@@calebcosman He did address it. In Middle-Earth, oaths are deeply important and sacred, such as what made the men of Dunharrow remain undead for millennia.
@@davidgraylord5977 Yep, peace through the fourth age but something happened that sent us back to the neolithic era and erased most evidence of the first 4 ages from history that started the 5th age, the 6th age started at year zero with the birth of Christ (Eru made human) and the 7th age probably began during the industrial revolution.
Aragorn deciding to keep his promise and give up the army of the dead echoes the idea of the temptation of the ring. Thank you for sharing this! Really enjoyed watching.
The Elven Rings if Power: At the farewell at the Havens, all three bearers of the elven rings have them on. Elrond has the ring of Air, and used it to protect Rivendell. It also enhanced his healing abilities, turning him into possibly the strongest healer in Middle-earth. Galadriel used her ring to slow the passage of time in Lothlorien and to protect it. Gandalf received the ring of Fire when he first appeared i; Middle-earth about 1000 years into the Third Age. Cirdan, the ringbearer, gave it to Gandalf to combat the weariness of his mission and to kindle hearts. The ring augments Gandalf’s abilities to wield physical fire, but more to the point, it kindles spiritual fire. Before Gandalf came to Middle-earth, he would sometimes appear among the elves and uplift them and give them information to help them see more clearly and more wisely. He’s loved the people of Middle-earth since they first woke up. He learned patience and pity from the Valar (god) who sorrows for the world’s suffering, and he’s considered the wisest of the Maiar (angels/demi-gods). He’s the perfect person to wield the ring of Fire and uses it to kindle hope from despair, courage from fear. Here’s something a commenter for another reaction noticed. Boromir is protected by one of the Elven Rings until after he leaves Lorien. Elrond’s ring helped mitigate the effect of the Ring inRivendell. Gandalf’s ring protected him until Gandalf fell in Moria. Galadriel’s ring protected him in Lothlorien. That’s why it takes the ring so long to corrupt him. Mortals in the Blessed Realm. The Ringbearers-Bilbo, Frodo, and eventually Sam-are allowed to come to the blessed realm and live out the rest of their days in peace and happiness. However, there’s another mortal who receives permission to come. After Aragorn dies, and Gimli is a very old dwarf, Legolas builds a ship and sails both of them to the Blessed Realm. Gimli wanted to see Galadriel again, and she’s probably the one to get the necessary permission.
To me the best part is when Theoden gives his speech and they all say "death", with that music behind I get the chills every single time. It's just too good, this movie is amazing! 🔥👌
I especially love when they all blow their horns together just before starting their charge. The faraway sound of the single horn that announces the arrival of Rohan at the beginning of the scene gives you a sense that it's somewhere off in the distance. But when they sound their horns together, you get a sense of being right there in the middle of the riders. That's the part that gives me chills. Listen to it with headphones if you want to get the full effect. It's breathtaking.
A classic "let her have the last word to keep the peace" when she say that lava takes 100 of years to cool. :D 😉 It doesn't. In some cases it takes 100 of days. Like on Iceland in 2018. Some parts had pretty thich lava. It took more than 130 days for a flow (about 4.5 m, or 15 ft) to cool to a temperature of about 200 degrees Celsius (290 degrees Fahrenheit). It becomes solid at the top long before that but the middle can still be very hot. Also it will depend on weather. A lot of rain or snow and cold teperatures will cool it down faster. :) Still, Frodo and Sam had no water and would die before they could get out of there. Also both the heat but also the fumes would probably killed them pretty fast. 😉
You practically have to freeze the frame to see it, but when Aragon is waiting for the Mouth to show up, you can just barely see the chain of the Evenstar across his throat. He still wears Arwen’s jewel.Speaking of jewelry, the Ring Aragorn wears is at least 7000 years old. It was made in the Blessed Realm and started off as the sigil of Galadriel’s brother Finrod. Finrod was surrounded in a First Age battle in Middle-earth and would have died or been captured if a man named Barahir and his men hadn’t protected him. Finrod swore an oath of abiding friendshipto Barahir and his relatives, and the ring came to be known as the Ring of Barahir. It passed from Barahir to Beren and eventually ended up as one of the artifacts of Numenorian royalty. Aragorn received it when he was about twenty, and, in the book, gave it to Arwen as a betrothal ring. It isn’t a ring of power, but it has the same kind of emotional resonance for people as Anduril has.
Frodo leaving makes sense: it is about PTSD... Tolkien himself was soldier in WW1, many soldiers of that inhuman war were were simply destroyed inside, I think Tolkien lets this flow into the story, i.e. Frodo can't let it go, the wound from Weathertop still hurts
“And still Meriadoc the hobbit stood there blinking through his tears, and no one spoke to him, indeed none seemed to heed him. He brushed away the tears, and stooped to pick up the green shield that Éowyn had given him, and he slung it at his back. Then he looked for his sword that he had let fall; for even as he struck his blow his arm was numbed, and now he could only use his left hand. And behold! there lay his weapon, but the blade was smoking like a dry branch that has been thrust in a fire; and as he watched it, it writhed and withered and was consumed. So passed the sword of the Barrow-downs, work of Westernesse. But glad would he have been to know its fate who wrought it slowly long ago in the North-kingdom when the Dúnedain were young, and chief among their foes was the dread realm of Angmar and its sorcerer king. No other blade, not though mightier hands had wielded it, would have dealt that foe a wound so bitter, cleaving the undead flesh, breaking the spell that knit his unseen sinews to his will” (Tolkien, LOTR, The Battle of the Pelennor Fields). With the magic spell undone, the Witch King was easy prey for Eowyn's valiant, piercing thrust.
That excerpt is a great example of why everyone who sees the films first, should then read the book ( the movies are still brilliant adaptations...better than I ever would have thought) ...it 's a far deeper experience. Such exquisite writing...expositive and emotional at the same time. I read LOTR when I was 12, for 64 hours straight, because of how captivating Tolkein's writing is.
Lore Dump: Shelob: I don’t know if this is true, but supposedly her design team went with the spider that freaked Peter Jackson out the most. He’s got arachnophobia, and he darn near went iver a table when they showed him this design. She’s based on a real New Zealand spider, but about 1000 times bigger. Galdriel’s Phial/Star of Earendil: Earendil appeared in the sky at the end of the first age as proof the gods had not abandoned the people of Middle-earth, who were losing the battle with that age’s dark lord. People also called it Gil-Estel - Star of High Hope. Its light is holy, so it’s anathema to evil creatures. It physically hurts Shelob. The interesting thing they didn’t show in the movie is the light reacts to its wielder’s valor. It shines bright for Frodo, but it glows like the star itself came down to earth for Sam. When the clouds and smoke clear, and Sam sees a star in Mordor, that’s Earendil. Since nothing about this star’s appearance is coincidental, I think it revealed itself to Sam to let him know8 he isn’t alone. The phrase Frodo shouts is “Hail Earendil, brightest of stars,” which is a modification of a line in the Anglo-Saxon poem Crist 1 by Cynewulf: “Hail, Earendel, brightest of angels.” It’s one of the most blatant uses of Christian symbolism that Tolkien uses.
1:05:50 the song Aragon sings translates: "From the Great Western Sea I have come. Here me and my descendents shall abide until the of the Earth." It was first spoken over 3000 years ago when Elendil (Isildurs father that Sauron killed at the beginning of the first film) came to Middle Earth from Numenor, a star shaped Island between Middle Earth and the undying lands. It was inhabited by the Eldain, a race of men blessed with living centuries but fell into ruin after breaking the Ban of the Valar. Elendil lead a faction called "The Faithful" who remembered the old ways of honor and faith and escaped its destruction.
@@BreakingCinemaThe founder of Numenor was Elrond’s brother- half elves have the choice to pick which heritage to follow. Elrond chose Elvish and was immortal; his twin brother Elros chose mortality and became the first King of Numenor. That’s why Aragorn is so close to Elrond and why Elrond didn’t turn on Isildur in Mount Doom- they are kin.
1:00:00 great job catching the callback to Fellowship when Sam is drowning and Frodo reaches down to save him. That was done on purpose and i see few reactors catch on to that detail
That and when he said "I'm glad to be with you Samwise Gamgee, here at the end of all things"... Before, at the river it was " I'm glad you're with me"..
Shelob is kinda hard to explain. She's the greatest remaining spawn of the original dark force to exist in the Middle Earth universe- a sentient, multidimensional spider named Ungoliant who was the size of planets when she was first created by Eru Iluvatar (the name Tolkien gives to God in his fictional universe). Shelob exists independent of Sauron, and doesn't serve him in any way. She simply chooses to live in Mordor now because the dark, toxic landscape Sauron has transformed his domain into also makes it the optimum habitat for her to thrive in. Orcs are the race that are least hostile to her (she knows elves, men, and dwarves would hunt her relentlessly if she lived in their lands). Mordor is just the most hospitable environment for her to live in as the daughter of a dark entity. Shelob is the incredibly old offspring of an ancient entity that could just as easily be determined to be a god by mortals given Ungoliant's size and abilities. I suppose the best comparison for her would be a Nepholim that still exists today, but hides itself from us.
Ungoliant probably existed before even before Eru created the universe, she is the embodiment of the Darkness, of Nothingness, of the Hungering Void given flesh. She very nearly kills Morgoth wanting to devour the Silmarils after devouring the Two Trees. Tolkien implies only Eru could have outright killed her even the Valar combined would have fallen to her and been devoured. Ironically she "Probably" was her own end, devouring herself in her great hunger.
@Witherdrake That's where you and I are going to differ. I've never interpreted Ungoliant- the embodiment of the Darkness and the Void -to predating all existence. If Ungoliant preceded existence, then it wasn't truly pre-existence, now was it? It's conceptually impossible to exist before existence itself. I've always interpreted Ungoliant as the counter weight within all of creation that simultaneously came into being at the same time Eru-Illuvatar forged it.
@@Britton_Thompson Totally fair and i mostly was speculating on Ungoliant. Her being some-kind of consequence or afterbirth of the creation of the Universe is also an appealing idea.
Denethor (Boromir and Foremir's father) was actually a good man. In the book he has a crystal ball like Sauramon, and used it to fight with Sauron directly. When Sauron realized that he couldn't corrupt him, he filled his head with terrible images which drove him mad. This is why he acts the way he does. Unfortunately, Peter Jackson left that part out of the movies.
Yea he was definitely done dirty in the movies. He was an amazing man that was a hero for so long that he really did live long enough to see himself become the villain. 50 years of psychological warfare with a demigod will do that to ya.
Aragorn releasing the dead was at the right time. If he brings them too close to Sauron, Sauron will be able to control them, that's how powerful he is.
@@oldchannel_MoM I don’t know if Sauron could have influenced the army of the dead. I don’t think so, or he would have used some of the dead in his plans somehow. Death is a part of Iluvatar’s plan, and their passing puts them beyond the reach even of Sauron. Certainly, the inhabitants of the Dead Marshes and the Barrow Downs weren’t his allies or tools. Only the wraiths belonged to him because they weren’t truly dead, but extensions of his own will, corrupted by the Ring. As I understood it, the Army of the Dead was cursed by Isildur when they broke their oath to defend Gondor during the Last Alliance. As the heir of Isildur and King of Gondor, Aragorn had the right and the power to release them from their curse if they fulfilled their original oath. If he had in turn broken his own oath by not releasing them, who knows what might have happened. They might have run amok, or Aragorn himself could have been cursed. In Tolkien’s world, the spoken oaths of great kings get taken very seriously in a spiritual sense, or the Army of the Dead wouldn’t exist at all.
Frodo is irreplaceably damaged physically, mentally, and down to his soul from his experience. The only way he can be comforted is to travel with the elves to the undying lands. His was the ultimate sacrifice to save middle earth. Sam of course is the unsung hero, who was the one who enabled Frodo to complete his task. Without him, nobody could consciously and purposefully destroy the ring on their own. It also took Gollum to play his role in destroying the ring - without him, Frodo and Sam couldn’t do it either.
Ya without Gollum they wouldn't have found their way out of Emyn Muil, they would have gotten caught at the Black Gate if they had maaged to make it out of there and they wouldn't have known about the Pass of Cirith Ungol not to mention no one being strong enough to voluntarily destroy the Ring at the Crack of Doom. Frodo's job was to get the Ring to the edge and he did that but it took the finger of Eru Illuvatar to give them (in the book only Gollum) a final push over the edge. Frodo never voluntarily gave up the Ring and he longed for it and along with his other unhealed hurts his only chance at peace was sailing into the west.
Technically Sam was also a ring "bearer" if that means "transporting". Although he never bore it on his finger. I haven't read the book in a long time, but I recall it maybe made mention of residual effects on Sam from having it. I might be misremembering that bit though.
@ No, you’re absolutely right. The ring did impact Sam, even though he only carried the ring for a short time. He also went to the Havens and left middle earth at the end of his life as well. I think the longer you possess the ring, the more it harms your soul. And of course Frodo was stabbed by the Nazgul which worsened his physical condition even more.
The boy who played the role of Eldarion, the first-born son of Aragorn and Arwen and his successor on the throne, is Sadwyn Brophy, son of fellow actor Jed Brophy , who plays the role of the dwarf Nori in the film adaptation of "The Hobbit", also directed by Peter Jackson.
probably two of the most iconic epic lines from RoTK are these two: "I can't carry it for you, but I can carry you " - Samwise Gamgee " You bow to noone " - King of Gondor - Aragorn
Yes, the dead men of Dunharrow knew Isildur. They were allied with him and Gondor in the original war of the ring. However, when called upon, they didn't come. So, they lost their honor and Isildur cursed them to never rest until they held their oath. Seemingly doomed to live (undead) forever, Aragorn finally gives them a chance to rest in peace. As the rightful king of Gondor and descendant of Isildur, he was the only one who could give that to them. 39:13 Yeah, that scream is called the Wilhelm scream. It's been used a billion times in a different media. It's kind of funny once you notice it, you'll hear it everywhere. Edit: Can't be sure without looking closer, but I believe Gondor is actually using Trebuchets not Catapults. The orcs *are* using catapults though. I know it seems like a subtle difference to some, but they function differently, just accomplish the same goal. Edit 2: Yeah, the orcs should definitely be scared when Rohan charges. In battle, cavalry is far superior to average foot soldiers. So, even with inferior numbers, Rohan is *extremely* dangerous since they have no counter on the battlefield atm. Edit 3: Answer to the lava flow cooling question: A crust will cool and form within minutes, but it can take months for the whole thing to cool. Edit 4: Yes, the ring had a profound mental and physical effect on Frodo. Even after its destruction he still feels it. So, he leaves with Bilbo to the Undying Lands (where only immortals are allowed to live, with exceptions for Bilbo and Frodo. Samwise and Gimli are also allowed to come later.)
1.00.40 Great catch on the juxtaposition between when Frodo reached for Sam in FOTR and here. I don't think I've seen any first time reactors pick that.
Tolkien universe is a vast one, i recommend reading The Hobbit(Bilbo's adventure), Lord of the Rings(Frodo's adventure) and The Silmarillion(history of the universe). To answer some of the questions: 1-Yes elves drink, there is an occasion in the hobbit, where bilbo is imprisoned by elves and he escapes by using wine barrels. 2-Yes elves sleep, but they kinda like to stay awake at night to look at the stars, talk and sing. 3-Eldarion, Aragorn and Arwens son, is a mortal, because Arwen chose a a mortal life.but he had a larger life span like his father. Actually Aragorn and Arwen are related, but enough time has passed between generations that it isnt weird anymore i suppose. Elrond and Elros were brothers, their parents were an elf and a man, so they were given a choice to become an elf or a man, Elrond chose to be an elf and Elros chose to be a man, Aragorn is from Elros line. 4-The encounter between Gandalf and WK didnt happen like the movies in the books, actually in the books Gandalf and shadowfax stood their ground in the face of WK, when everyone else ran away.The paragraph that describes this encounter is the best in the whole book. 5-Frodo had to leave Middle Earth because he is granted passage to the Undying Lands, where he can heal from the Weathertop wound and other injuries he had to endure in his journey. Undying lands is in a continent called Aman, and the realm is called Valinor, it is ruled by the leader of The Valar, called Manwe. Only some elves are allowed to go and live there, Frodo, Bilbo, Legolas, Gimli are exceptions who were invited there because of their heroism. Powerwise there are the following in Tolkien universe: Eru Ilúvatar = God in Tolkien universe. Valar = Angel like beings, there are 14 of them.Manwe is their king.Melkor is another one, he is the main bad guy(satan) and the first dark lord in Tolkien universe.Sauron was Melkors lietenant. Maiar = Angel like beings but lesser in power compared to the Valar.Gandalf is a Maia, also the Balrog is a corrupted Mair. Gandalf is my favorite character of all time, and i should say he is not allowed to use all of his powers in Middle Earth. His role is only to give counsel. As i said the lore is very rich in this universe and there are some people who made careers in studying Toliken works.(They are called Tolkien scholars). Also would be cool to do the Hobbit movies too, they are not as good as lotr, but not that bad.
Frodo never fully healed from his wounds, which means he could never stay happy in Middle-Earth. He, Gandalf, Bilbo, and the rest are going to the undying lands (Elf heaven essentially), where mortal beings usually aren't allowed. An exception is made for Frodo and Bilbo because they were ring bearers. In the appendices we learn that Sam becomes mayor of the Shire and lives a long and happy life. After his wife dies, he also sails west to the undying lands because he was briefly a ring bearer. So Frodo and Sam do meet again. Merry and Pippin spend their days with Aragorn in Gondor, and when they die they are buried next to Aragorn's grave. Legolas and Gimli remain friends, and their friendship heals the rift between Dwarf and Elf. When they reach their end, they also sail to the undying lands together. It's a massive honor for Gimli, being a dwarf, and never a ring bearer. Once they leave, the fellowship is gone from Middle Earth forever.
Man, I’ve watched these movies (no exaggeration) probably about 50 times and you guys were bringing up some awesome points! I absolutely loved the parallel you drew about Sam reaching down to Frodo to pull him up at Mt. Doom just like Frodo did with Sam when he was underwater.
It's one of the theories about them. Certainly they are referred to as the "eagles of Manwe" repeatedly. But with so many other things, especially origin stories, Tolkien seems to have gone back and forth between enforcing this idea and refuting it.
The reason the orcs fight in the tower of Cirith Ungol is because there are two orc commanders - one from the tower of cirith ungol, and one who has led a patrol up the tunnel (not seen in the movie) from minas morgul. The minas morgul patrol has come up because they saw the lights and heard the noise of sam's fight with shelob. Both orc commanders realise that frodo didnt defeat shelob (he's wrapped up and unarmed). So they conclude that a powerful elf has penetrated the defences. At about the same time, Sam uses the light of earandil to dispel the watchers at the cirith ungol tower (the same as the statues at the bridge to minas morgul, except the statues are alive and their one job is to create a magic blocking barrier). When Sam dispels the barrier a gong sounds an alarm and both orc commanders know that only some serious magic could do that. And they both realise theyre in serious trouble - and the penalty is likely to be being fed to shelob, if theyre lucky. One of the orc commander wants to try grovelling - by sending Frodo's things to sauron's tower - and the other wants to pretend nothing happened, which is a bad idea because sooner or later one of the other orcs will inform on them. One of the orc commanders goes so far as to suggest deserting together but the other one wont do it. After some argument each realises the other orc commander has left them no choice and violence is the only solution to their deadlock. And thats why they come to blows. Because the orcs commanders and their orcs are from different towers and chains of command they automatically despise each other, so when each commander calls on their orcs to fight they dont hesitate to join in. The orcs that encounter sam in the tower all run away from him, because they can sense the ring, plus sam has the light and a glowing sword, all of which dont let them see him properly. The one orc who doesnt flee from sam is the orc commander, shagrat, and he falls down the ladder hole and dies. sam doesnt stab him (in the movie I think that orc is gorbag, the other orc commander. For some reason they mix them up).
I had to chuckle when you compared Shelob's movements to a cat! In the books, we're told that Sauron knows she's there in the mountains, but he doesn't mind because she's useful to him in that position as an unwitting sort of guard. And he called her "his Cat."
13.42 That's director Peter Jackson taking the arrow in his third cameo. Other members of the production team are standing around him. 20.52, that's Jacksons arm in shot, it was an additional scene and Sean Astin wasn't available, so Peter Jackson put the shirt on and did it.
It’s overstated for the movie, but the Ring had no real grip on Sam while he held it- all it could do is offer visions of him as a master gardener, with vast acres of land to cultivate; naturally his hobbit common sense revolted against such grandiosity. But because he too was a Ringbearer, after Rosie passed and his children were grown, Sam would follow Frodo to the Undying Lands. Legolas and an elderly Gimli would also sail west in a boat the elf had built, and they were never heard of again.
Just a clarification. Sam didn't move into Frodo's house at the end. That's his house. All Hobbits live in homes with round doors built into the side of a hill. All the good rooms are on the left bc they're the ones that face outside. And all ring bearers leave Middle Earth, even Sam eventually, who becomes mayor. They are going to Valinor, the undying lands, where they will become immortal. Frodo can never be healed in Middle Earth and Sam will be more concerned for him than his own family. That's why Frodo says, "You can't always be torn in two. You will have to become one and whole for many years. Your part will go on." Sam needs to take care of Sam and his family and not worry about Mr. Frodo. Great reactions tho. You guys didn't talk to much and felt what you were intended to feel. It's such a strong ending bc even we, the viewers, have to say goodbye and we don't want to either.
I know it looks as if all the elves departed at the end of this movie, but many elves like Celeborn and the sons of Elrond lingered for a long time yet. If it makes you feel any better, some sixty years after the events in the books, after the death of his beloved Rose, old Sam, the last of the ring-bearers, passed the Red Book onto his daughter Elanor, and took one of the last ships to the Undying Lands, rejoining Frodo after as long and as good a life as any Hobbit could ask for.
I was looking for this comment. I had remembered Sam had the ring at one point and there was residual effects. But I couldn't remember if and why not he went to the West. I actually bought a new copy of the books as I gave away my original copy. Hopefully I have some time to reread it all. The way they cut out book 6 always upset me.
@@who-nobody-never If you understood the craft of screenwriting and how it differs from novel writing, then you'd know why The Scouring of the Shire had to be cut. Even Christopher Lee understood why.
Aragorn's song is actually quoted from the words of Elendil (father of Isildur and Anarion, future kings of Gondor and Arnor) when he and the rest of the survivors of Numenor landed on Middle Earth. it was a pledge to make these lands their home in exile for all their days (IIRC). Middle-Earth *is* (in a sense) our world - it's roughly analogous to Europe. Tolkien wrote the Silmarillion as a kind of proto-mythology for the Anglo-Saxon world which had been lost to time ever since the Norman conquest. He wanted to imagine how that ancient culture would have told stories about the world that were mythically true to them. The elves were sailing across the sea to an island that was made for them at the beginning of time, and it's where all the angels who govern the world dwell. You'd have to read the Silmarillion and Akallabeth to get all of that, but the long and short of it is that it's impossible for anybody but elves to sail there anymore - if mortal races tried, they'd just sail across the ocean eventually to whatever lands exist there, never reaching the Undying Lands. You can think of it as roughly analogous to Eden in the Bible. Numenor used to be an island that dwelled within sight of that land, as a reward for their service in the ancient war against the fallen angel Morgoth, but at the end their culture became obsessed with sailing to the Undying Lands (due in part to Sauron's influence), and was cast into the abyss of the sea. The only survivors were those who were still faithful and obedient to the angels, and sailed back to Middle Earth in secret before the rest of Numenor was punished. That's where Elendil and the Numenorean survivors came to found the great human kingdoms of Gondor and Arnor (Arnor is again another story, but the lands in the area of Hobbiton used to be part of a great Northern Kingdom that also eventually fell to ruin. Aragorn eventually reunites Arnor and Gondor during his rule). You'd simply have to read the books to get all of that; the movies cut a lot of it out of necessity (and also made some changes that are a little capricious as well, such as Gandalf getting backed down by the Witch-King - that encounter went down *way* differently in the book. Gandalf had nothing to fear from the Nazgul.) The movies are great cinema, but they pale in comparison to Tolkien's masterworks.
Elrond's objection was not that Aragorn was a ranger. He knew his lineage, but that his daughter would marry no less than the high king of Arnor and Gondor. Also, Elrond was Aragorn's uncle... sort of as Aragorn was descended from Elrond's brother who chose to live a mortal life as a human while Elrond chose to live az an immortal elf.
Elrond's twin brother, named Elros. Elrond went through a lot of trauma and heartache himself, what with his wife (and Arwen's mother) kidnapped, poisoned, and left for Valinor, the separation from his brother, and being kidnapped and held by a corrupted elf when he was young.
1:11:49 Some have already commented on what the Grey Havens were and where the ship was going - but I'll toss this answer on the stack as well. The Grey Havens were indeed an Elven harbor. The Elves still possess both the knowledge and the ability to sail "The Straight Road," upon which a ship can leave Middle Earth and reach Aman, The Blessed Realm. Tolkien's cosmology is interesting because Aman is a physical place in Arda (the world), and so doesn't directly correspond with what we might refer to as Heaven. Mortals permitted entrance to Aman do find it a place of wonderful bliss and healing, but the lands don't confer immortality. Bilbo and Frodo will, at some point, pass on to whatever end has been decreed for Hobbits. And at some time will be The Great End, where even the immortals of Arda will pass on. But there will be a new Music! It will be greater than the first, and everyone shall know their part.
Sam gets to go on the boats later after being mayor a million times and having a troops of children. He gives bilbo and frodo's book to his daughter elanor to keep. (In the book, Sam not only carries the ring for a while, he actually wears it for awhile running around in Cirith Ungal. Pippen has one kid and names him Faramir.
You mentioned that sauron could not stop the army of the dead. But let's think what might happen if Aragorn had not released them. Sauron could corrupt them. He could offer them power and turn them against Aragorn. In the end, why would they fight for a king who did not kept his word in the first place? They have a record of being traitors. They could do it again. Releasing them was the best and the most reasonable choice for Aragorn.
Fun fact (probably already mentioned 12 times over by others) Gandalf, Sauron , Saruman, the Balrog,the Eagles are all basically lesser angels that take different forms, so one type of beings called Maiar
@@joeylockie In Tolkien's many writings collected by his son Christopher, one of the possible sources of the great eagles were that they were maiar cloaked in the forms of eagles. Since he left a lot of things open-ended, the jury will forever be out on what the true beginnings of the great eagles were.
In the end all the hobbits become mayors and/or leaders in their different villages. Legolas and Gimli stayed in Gondor to help Aragorn rebuild. Then they visit Fangorn together and the glittering caves behind Helms Deep. There Gimli creates a new dwarven realm and becomes its lord. Legolas returns to his home in Mirkwood, but eventually it’s time for him to leave also for the Undying Lands. He builds a boat and he and a very old Gimli sail to the Undying Lands together, friends forever. Because of their love for each other the rift between the elves and dwarves ends and they all come together help Aragorn rebuild Minas Tirth. In old age, Merry and Pippin go to stay with Aragorn. They are laid to rest in Minas Tirth and when Aragorn passes, he’s laid next to them. After Rosie passes, Sam leaves his son as mayor of Hobbiton, and he takes the absolute last boat to leave Middle Earth. All the ring bearers were allowed to go to the Undying Lands, and since Sam held it for a few days, he is also allowed to go. He and Frodo are united in the Undying Lands. So glad you loved these movies too. ❤
Eagles back story: The Eagles are not just large birds. They are a full, sentient race much like Treebeard and the Ents. And much like the Ents had their own reasons for not joining the war which they believed to be men's problem and were deeply proud and stubborn. But like the Ents, the Eagles come to realize that they, as Merry said, are part of this world. Gwaihir, the Lord of the Eagles, is the one we see the most, who saves Gandalf from Saruman's tower. He saves Gandalf because Gandalf, I believe, saved him at some point in the past and they are friends which is why Gwaihir allows Gandalf to ride him. Gwaihir makes an appearance in the Hobbit films as well.
Gandalf healed Gwaihir after he'd been shot by an arrow from humans, as Gandalf relates in The Hobbit. Tolkien also hinted that the great eagles may not have even been mortal creatures, but maiar like Gandalf and the wizards, but in animal form.
1:11:11 yeah ur spot on... he came back home and realized he still had "wounds"(PTSD) that the ring and everything left on his soul😢So he had to go to a place where there's no sickness or death etc to finally be at peace
55:55 Great Eagles are messengers from Manwë (King of the Valar and basically King of the World). They also have the mission to help the free peoples against dark lords
I think Theoden's real reason for not taking Merry wasn't that no rider could take him but that he didn't want Merry to get killed. Just my opinion. However, love your reactions!
32:40 this is a depiction of the kind of "we dont know how to fight this, but have to" that was all of world war 1. the first war ever with machines and engines.
Ever watch the Punkin' Chunkin' competition where various air cannons, centrifugal launchers, catapults and trebuchets all compete in their individual categories to fling a pumpkin as far as they can?
After his wife dies years and years and years later after he had been the mayor Sam leaves on a boat because tho he only held it for a short time he's a ring bearer so he got entry. Merry and Pippin also have high ranks in Hobbit society have kids and when they're older leave for Gondor one ladt time and are buried with Aragorn. Legolas cleans up the forest and Gimli helps the dwarves years later they travel together for awhile on more adventures then finally they get in the boat Legolas made and also sail to the elven land. Gimli can enter because he's Legolas friend and the only dwarf ever admitted. So technically the fellowship all pretty much do all be together in the end in the elven land besides Merry, Pippin, and Aragorn who are still buried together.
31:10 Denathor's whole family is so durable. it takes 3 arrows or a whole body on fire to kill them. matter of fact, denathor survived till he hit the floor.
Maybe in your headcanon. In the book, he didn't run and jump anywhere--he closed the door to his family masoleum, which was burning, and cried out loudly as he died.
"The way is shut. It was made by those who are dead and the dead keep it. The way is shut". I took this to mean that the way was shut with the skulls of those who died and when the barrier collapsed and the skulls fell out it opened the way.
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Frodo had three wounds that troubled him ever after: from the Morgul-blade, from Shelob's sting, and the soul-deep spiritual damage from carrying the Ring all the way to the Cracks of Doom.
Frodo still had the Nazgûl wound hurting, and ptsd from the ring that mentally and physically tortured him for so long. He sailed to a land where he’d find peace and they’d be able to heal him. Imo he’s the mvp of the story for his sacrifice and deserved it.
i think youre confusing lava cooling with the process of island formation by underground volcano, which takes hundreds of years. but that is not because it takes the lava so long to cool, but because the island is formed layer by layer from eruptions over hundreds of years. depending on the size of the flow it can take years to cool, decades at most but certainly not hundreds of years
Regarding the Eagles: In Tolkiens Legendarium they are quasi-angelic beings, very old and extremely powerful. Gwaihir Lord of the Eagles was the one rescuing Gandalf from Orthanc. The eagles going to rescue Frodo and Sam are Gwaihir along with his brothers Meneldur and Landroval, after they attacked the fellbeasts of the Nazgul at the black gate as you can see in the movie. There is a great video with a snippet of Tolkien himself answering the very obvious question regarding the eagles.
More nuggets... The pirate that Legolas shot on the boat was Peter Jackson, the director. I'm pretty sure he had small cameos in the other two movies. The ugly orc (the "deformed Yoda from Hell", in your words), was actually based on Harvey Weinstein, who at the time was one of the producers of this film. Apparently, he was enough of a shitbag even before the rape allegations for the creators of the film to take this swipe at him. Which makes sense when the pretty blonde girl is desperately trying to get away from him at 38:26.
In Fellowship, he's one of the guys in Bree eating a carrot in the rain when the hobbits first get there. In Two Towers, he's at the siege of Helm's Deep throwing a spear from the top of the wall.
Weinstein wasn't one of the producers of the film. Peter Jackson had gone to Weinstein's film company seeking to get Lord of the Rings made, and Weinstein made too many ridiculous demands over it, as well as wanting to make it only one film. PJ moved on and fortunately connected with New Line.
Close, it was an Numenorean dagger, made during the last War of the Ring. It was specifically made to fight Nazgul. The daggers cut the wraith off from Sauron's power making them mortal. So it was such a great tag team action because you have Merry cutting the Witch King off from is power base and then Eowyn delivering the coup de gras right though his head.
Many (myself included) consider Sam to be the hero of this story. Frodo could not accomplish his mission without him. Also Smeagal/Gollum through sheer greed for the ring "played his part" in destroying it (recall what Gandalf said in the mines of Moria in the first movie).
Tolkien did say that Sam was probably the primary protagonist (the four hobbits were supposed to be the protagonists and all the other characters like Gandalf and Aragorn were support characters), but he also made it clear that every member of the Fellowship (as well as many other minor character and their peoples) contributed to the victory, and that if any of them had failed at their individual tasks, the entire endeavor would have failed. Teamwork really does make the dream work.
Aragon grow up with Arwen. His father was Elrond's friend and got killed. They were in love for a long time but Elrond told him, only when you become kind will you marry my daughter
No, Rosie and Sam did not move in to Bilbo/Frodos house.... the house is different, sams door is yellow, Bilbos door is green, also the fence is different.... But fun fact is,Sams daughter is played by Sean Astins real daughter. And Rosies son( who is actually a girl) is played by Sarahs real daugter 😊
Roise and Sam do infact move into Baggend, Frodo names Sam his heir and gives him everything he owned. Sam and Rosie move in shortly after their marriage and took care of Frodo along with starting their family.
Per tolkien, as Sam lives on, once his wife and kids grow and die and Sam is older and alone, because he was a ring bearer for a time, he is able to sail to the undying lands and reunite with Frodo
1:10:38 Frodo's wounds are too deep, he would always carry them in Middle Earth. Because of his role in destroying the ring (being a ring bearer), he was granted a pass to the Undying Lands to be healed. Sam wikk eventually go there too, many years later, after the death of his wife. Do not let the name of the land misslead you, they would die there. The name is given because that's the land where the immortal being live
Frodo was stabbed by one of the Nazgûl it left a mark on him so whenever the Nazgûl were close he could feel it's blade where he was stabbed it's why he is leaving he is goin to the Gray havens to the undying land where he can rest an live in peace
The giant spider, Shelob, isn’t truly a spider (the pincers and stinger being a giveaway). She’s demonic creature, a spawn of a creature called Ungoliant that came from the void outside creation-an endless appetite of unliving darkness that took the shape of a spider. It once allied itself with Morgoth, Sauron’s master, and brought ruin and poison to the Elves, beginning their long vendetta against Morgoth and later Sauron. Of course Ungoliant turned against Morgoth and would have eaten him if he hadn’t summoned his Balrogs to drive it away with their whips. Like Shelob, no one knows what happened to Ungoliant when she left the story; it’s hoped she fled into the dark places of the earth and, in hunger and madness, ate herself.
Bernard Hill ( Theoden ) steals every scene he's in.
He was probably my favorite part of this whole movie. Such a comeback from his darker days
@@BreakingCinema YES
@@BreakingCinema its crazy to think that between Gandalf freeing him from the poison of Grima's words and his death on the fields of the Pelennor was only 13 days apart. He was freed on March 2nd and died March 15th
Gondor calls for aid!!!! And the Titanic will answer!!!!! 😂😅❤
Lava cools very quickly on the surface, forming a crust within minutes, but the interior of a thick lava flow can take several months to years to completely cool depending on its depth, with very thick flows potentially taking decades to solidify fully; a typical 15-foot thick flow can take over 130 days to cool to a temperature around 290 degrees Fahrenheit.
Tolkien outright said in one of his letters, 246 to be exact; no one could have destroyed the Ring willfully in the place of its making where its power was absolute. Only an act of chance or Providence could have destroyed it. In other words the Ring could only be destroyed by accident or by direct intervention by Eru'Illuvitar (God). Anyone weaker then Frodo would have never made it as far as he did and anyone stronger would have succumb to the Rings temptation. As Elrond said Frodo was chosen by Providence to take this quest on but notice no where does anyone ask Frodo to destroy the Ring. Only take the Ring to Mordor, with the goal of its destruction in mind. And yes in the end Frodo technically fails, he succumbs to the Ring and claims it. However i will refer to the professors letter about his thoughts on Frodo's failure.
"I do not think that Frodo's was a moral failure. At the last moment the pressure of the Ring would reach its maximum - impossible, I should have said, for any one to resist, certainly after long possession, months of increasing torment, and when starved and exhausted. Frodo had done what he could and spent himself completely (as an instrument of Providence) and had produced a situation in which the object of his quest could be achieved. His humility (with which he began) and his sufferings were justly rewarded by the highest honour; and his exercise of patience and mercy towards Gollum gained him Mercy: his failure was redressed."
I’ve always thought that generally people are a little harsh on Frodo, but dude, this excerpt you’ve shared really makes me admire Frodo even more. Thanks!
@@AdamsBombin Frodo is a hero unlike we are used to in modern stories. He is a pretty humble guy who does what he does not for personal gain or fame but to protect his home. He never thought himself adequate enough to take on the quest which ironically made him uniquely qualified to do it. However even Tolkien said Sam is the real hero of the story, and its emotional heart. Actually in one of the drafts before release Frodo and Sam get elven titles to honor their deeds. Bronwe athan Harthad and Harthad Uluithiad, "Endurance beyond Hope" and "Hope Unquenchable". Its one of those lines i wish made it into the final draft.
Tolkien freely admitted a Deus Ex Machina saved the day in his novel. The reason it wasn't a flaw was that he'd set it up to happen the entire novel.
This is great backstory. I've not read the books yet but will love that day when it comes. It makes sense. Frodo's true self was at that last moment, overwhelmed and compromised. No one could've done a better job or taken it further. I can't help but think of what Frodo said to Gollum in The Two Towers when Gollum swore on the ring to serve the master of the ring, Frodo. "the ring is treacherous, it will hold you to your oath". Gollum lied and the ring did end up killing him. I've always wondered if Tolkien ever addressed that.
@@calebcosman He did address it. In Middle-Earth, oaths are deeply important and sacred, such as what made the men of Dunharrow remain undead for millennia.
To avoid confusion: Middle Earth is actually supposed to be our world in a forgotten distant past.
It lines up with europes map
Indeed, correct. Tolkien claimed, fictionally of course, that these stories were based on ancient scrolls found.
According to the history of Middle Earth we are currently living in the 7th age. The Hobbit & TLOTR happened in the 3rd age
@@davidgraylord5977 Yep, peace through the fourth age but something happened that sent us back to the neolithic era and erased most evidence of the first 4 ages from history that started the 5th age, the 6th age started at year zero with the birth of Christ (Eru made human) and the 7th age probably began during the industrial revolution.
Kind of like how we became just a world of men huh? I love that
Aragorn deciding to keep his promise and give up the army of the dead echoes the idea of the temptation of the ring.
Thank you for sharing this! Really enjoyed watching.
The concept of honor runs strongly through the novel; Aragorn is an exemplar of honor.
Best movie ever made.
Best ending to a movie ever.
Sam is the MVP of the movie.
The Elven Rings if Power: At the farewell at the Havens, all three bearers of the elven rings have them on. Elrond has the ring of Air, and used it to protect Rivendell. It also enhanced his healing abilities, turning him into possibly the strongest healer in Middle-earth. Galadriel used her ring to slow the passage of time in Lothlorien and to protect it. Gandalf received the ring of Fire when he first appeared i; Middle-earth about 1000 years into the Third Age. Cirdan, the ringbearer, gave it to Gandalf to combat the weariness of his mission and to kindle hearts. The ring augments Gandalf’s abilities to wield physical fire, but more to the point, it kindles spiritual fire. Before Gandalf came to Middle-earth, he would sometimes appear among the elves and uplift them and give them information to help them see more clearly and more wisely. He’s loved the people of Middle-earth since they first woke up. He learned patience and pity from the Valar (god) who sorrows for the world’s suffering, and he’s considered the wisest of the Maiar (angels/demi-gods). He’s the perfect person to wield the ring of Fire and uses it to kindle hope from despair, courage from fear.
Here’s something a commenter for another reaction noticed. Boromir is protected by one of the Elven Rings until after he leaves Lorien. Elrond’s ring helped mitigate the effect of the Ring inRivendell. Gandalf’s ring protected him until Gandalf fell in Moria. Galadriel’s ring protected him in Lothlorien. That’s why it takes the ring so long to corrupt him.
Mortals in the Blessed Realm. The Ringbearers-Bilbo, Frodo, and eventually Sam-are allowed to come to the blessed realm and live out the rest of their days in peace and happiness. However, there’s another mortal who receives permission to come. After Aragorn dies, and Gimli is a very old dwarf, Legolas builds a ship and sails both of them to the Blessed Realm. Gimli wanted to see Galadriel again, and she’s probably the one to get the necessary permission.
"I go to my fathers. And even in their mighty company I shall not now be ashamed"
R.I.P Bernard Hill; King of Rohan and Captain of the Titanic.
54:55 "They never miss with the stones".
Yes, actually, Tolkien says all hobbits have a great aiming.
Watching you young kids fall in love with this trilogy is awesome to see, especially Valerie's enthusiastic reactions.
We were blessed to be able to share this journey with everyone especially these movies!
To me the best part is when Theoden gives his speech and they all say "death", with that music behind I get the chills every single time. It's just too good, this movie is amazing! 🔥👌
had me soaked
@BreakingCinema 😂🤣
Big moment
I especially love when they all blow their horns together just before starting their charge. The faraway sound of the single horn that announces the arrival of Rohan at the beginning of the scene gives you a sense that it's somewhere off in the distance. But when they sound their horns together, you get a sense of being right there in the middle of the riders. That's the part that gives me chills.
Listen to it with headphones if you want to get the full effect. It's breathtaking.
A classic "let her have the last word to keep the peace" when she say that lava takes 100 of years to cool. :D 😉
It doesn't. In some cases it takes 100 of days. Like on Iceland in 2018. Some parts had pretty thich lava.
It took more than 130 days for a flow (about 4.5 m, or 15 ft) to cool to a temperature of about 200 degrees Celsius (290 degrees Fahrenheit). It becomes solid at the top long before that but the middle can still be very hot.
Also it will depend on weather. A lot of rain or snow and cold teperatures will cool it down faster. :)
Still, Frodo and Sam had no water and would die before they could get out of there. Also both the heat but also the fumes would probably killed them pretty fast. 😉
You practically have to freeze the frame to see it, but when Aragon is waiting for the Mouth to show up, you can just barely see the chain of the Evenstar across his throat. He still wears Arwen’s jewel.Speaking of jewelry, the Ring Aragorn wears is at least 7000 years old. It was made in the Blessed Realm and started off as the sigil of Galadriel’s brother Finrod. Finrod was surrounded in a First Age battle in Middle-earth and would have died or been captured if a man named Barahir and his men hadn’t protected him. Finrod swore an oath of abiding friendshipto Barahir and his relatives, and the ring came to be known as the Ring of Barahir. It passed from Barahir to Beren and eventually ended up as one of the artifacts of Numenorian royalty. Aragorn received it when he was about twenty, and, in the book, gave it to Arwen as a betrothal ring. It isn’t a ring of power, but it has the same kind of emotional resonance for people as Anduril has.
Faramir and Eowyn love story, it´s quite deeper and romantic in the book. Here we only see a few nice moments.
As much as I love these movies I do feel like they kind of did Faramir and Eowyn dirty.
Frodo leaving makes sense: it is about PTSD... Tolkien himself was soldier in WW1, many soldiers of that inhuman war were were simply destroyed inside, I think Tolkien lets this flow into the story, i.e. Frodo can't let it go, the wound from Weathertop still hurts
“And still Meriadoc the hobbit stood there blinking through his tears, and no one spoke to him, indeed none seemed to heed him. He brushed away the tears, and stooped to pick up the green shield that Éowyn had given him, and he slung it at his back. Then he looked for his sword that he had let fall; for even as he struck his blow his arm was numbed, and now he could only use his left hand. And behold! there lay his weapon, but the blade was smoking like a dry branch that has been thrust in a fire; and as he watched it, it writhed and withered and was consumed. So passed the sword of the Barrow-downs, work of Westernesse. But glad would he have been to know its fate who wrought it slowly long ago in the North-kingdom when the Dúnedain were young, and chief among their foes was the dread realm of Angmar and its sorcerer king. No other blade, not though mightier hands had wielded it, would have dealt that foe a wound so bitter, cleaving the undead flesh, breaking the spell that knit his unseen sinews to his will” (Tolkien, LOTR, The Battle of the Pelennor Fields).
With the magic spell undone, the Witch King was easy prey for Eowyn's valiant, piercing thrust.
Wow.... I read this and saw it all played out in my head
That excerpt is a great example of why everyone who sees the films first, should then read the book ( the movies are still brilliant adaptations...better than I ever would have thought) ...it 's a far deeper experience. Such exquisite writing...expositive and emotional at the same time.
I read LOTR when I was 12, for 64 hours straight, because of how captivating Tolkein's writing is.
Lore Dump:
Shelob: I don’t know if this is true, but supposedly her design team went with the spider that freaked Peter Jackson out the most. He’s got arachnophobia, and he darn near went iver a table when they showed him this design. She’s based on a real New Zealand spider, but about 1000 times bigger.
Galdriel’s Phial/Star of Earendil: Earendil appeared in the sky at the end of the first age as proof the gods had not abandoned the people of Middle-earth, who were losing the battle with that age’s dark lord. People also called it Gil-Estel - Star of High Hope. Its light is holy, so it’s anathema to evil creatures. It physically hurts Shelob. The interesting thing they didn’t show in the movie is the light reacts to its wielder’s valor. It shines bright for Frodo, but it glows like the star itself came down to earth for Sam.
When the clouds and smoke clear, and Sam sees a star in Mordor, that’s Earendil. Since nothing about this star’s appearance is coincidental, I think it revealed itself to Sam to let him know8 he isn’t alone.
The phrase Frodo shouts is “Hail Earendil, brightest of stars,” which is a modification of a line in the Anglo-Saxon poem Crist 1 by Cynewulf: “Hail, Earendel, brightest of angels.” It’s one of the most blatant uses of Christian symbolism that Tolkien uses.
1:05:50 the song Aragon sings translates: "From the Great Western Sea I have come. Here me and my descendents shall abide until the of the Earth." It was first spoken over 3000 years ago when Elendil (Isildurs father that Sauron killed at the beginning of the first film) came to Middle Earth from Numenor, a star shaped Island between Middle Earth and the undying lands. It was inhabited by the Eldain, a race of men blessed with living centuries but fell into ruin after breaking the Ban of the Valar. Elendil lead a faction called "The Faithful" who remembered the old ways of honor and faith and escaped its destruction.
Wow. Thank you for that. Need to read the books so bad
@@BreakingCinemaThe founder of Numenor was Elrond’s brother- half elves have the choice to pick which heritage to follow. Elrond chose Elvish and was immortal; his twin brother Elros chose mortality and became the first King of Numenor. That’s why Aragorn is so close to Elrond and why Elrond didn’t turn on Isildur in Mount Doom- they are kin.
Ive seen this movie a dozen times. "My friends, you bow to no one" still gives me goosebumps every time
This was an excellent experience watching with you guys. I love seeing new people experience LOTR for the 1st time.
1:00:00 great job catching the callback to Fellowship when Sam is drowning and Frodo reaches down to save him. That was done on purpose and i see few reactors catch on to that detail
That and when he said "I'm glad to be with you Samwise Gamgee, here at the end of all things"... Before, at the river it was " I'm glad you're with me"..
Well it helped that weve seen all 3 movies within a month! had we waited im not sure i would have caught it
@BreakingCinema haha fair, but like I said I've seen plenty of reactors miss it! Great vid
Shelob is kinda hard to explain. She's the greatest remaining spawn of the original dark force to exist in the Middle Earth universe- a sentient, multidimensional spider named Ungoliant who was the size of planets when she was first created by Eru Iluvatar (the name Tolkien gives to God in his fictional universe). Shelob exists independent of Sauron, and doesn't serve him in any way. She simply chooses to live in Mordor now because the dark, toxic landscape Sauron has transformed his domain into also makes it the optimum habitat for her to thrive in. Orcs are the race that are least hostile to her (she knows elves, men, and dwarves would hunt her relentlessly if she lived in their lands). Mordor is just the most hospitable environment for her to live in as the daughter of a dark entity.
Shelob is the incredibly old offspring of an ancient entity that could just as easily be determined to be a god by mortals given Ungoliant's size and abilities. I suppose the best comparison for her would be a Nepholim that still exists today, but hides itself from us.
Ungoliant probably existed before even before Eru created the universe, she is the embodiment of the Darkness, of Nothingness, of the Hungering Void given flesh. She very nearly kills Morgoth wanting to devour the Silmarils after devouring the Two Trees. Tolkien implies only Eru could have outright killed her even the Valar combined would have fallen to her and been devoured. Ironically she "Probably" was her own end, devouring herself in her great hunger.
@Witherdrake That's where you and I are going to differ. I've never interpreted Ungoliant- the embodiment of the Darkness and the Void -to predating all existence. If Ungoliant preceded existence, then it wasn't truly pre-existence, now was it? It's conceptually impossible to exist before existence itself.
I've always interpreted Ungoliant as the counter weight within all of creation that simultaneously came into being at the same time Eru-Illuvatar forged it.
@@Britton_Thompson Totally fair and i mostly was speculating on Ungoliant. Her being some-kind of consequence or afterbirth of the creation of the Universe is also an appealing idea.
I’m eating my second breakfast up here in cold Sweden as I get to watch this with you. Such a treat! 😋☕️
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In the book, Eowyn was disguised as a young man, Merry did not realize it was her until the final confrontation with the witch king.
What an outstanding reaction series. I really enjoyed how intuitive you both were to so many parts. Thank you for sharing your reaction!
59:40 You're the only person suggesting Smeagol was trying to protect the ring to his very last. I never thought of that, thanks!
Denethor (Boromir and Foremir's father) was actually a good man. In the book he has a crystal ball like Sauramon, and used it to fight with Sauron directly. When Sauron realized that he couldn't corrupt him, he filled his head with terrible images which drove him mad. This is why he acts the way he does. Unfortunately, Peter Jackson left that part out of the movies.
Yea he was definitely done dirty in the movies. He was an amazing man that was a hero for so long that he really did live long enough to see himself become the villain. 50 years of psychological warfare with a demigod will do that to ya.
what a beast!
Aragorn releasing the dead was at the right time. If he brings them too close to Sauron, Sauron will be able to control them, that's how powerful he is.
That makes much more sense now
@@oldchannel_MoM I don’t know if Sauron could have influenced the army of the dead. I don’t think so,
or he would have used some of the dead in his plans somehow. Death is a part of Iluvatar’s plan, and their passing puts them beyond the reach even of Sauron. Certainly, the inhabitants of the Dead Marshes and the Barrow Downs weren’t his allies or tools. Only the wraiths belonged to him because they weren’t truly dead, but extensions of his own will, corrupted by the Ring.
As I understood it, the Army of the Dead was cursed by Isildur when they broke their oath to defend Gondor during the Last Alliance. As the heir of Isildur and King of Gondor, Aragorn had the right and the power to release them from their curse if they fulfilled their original oath. If he had in turn broken his own oath by not releasing them, who knows what might have happened. They might have run amok, or Aragorn himself could have been cursed. In Tolkien’s world, the spoken oaths of great kings get taken very seriously in a spiritual sense, or the Army of the Dead wouldn’t exist at all.
Frodo is irreplaceably damaged physically, mentally, and down to his soul from his experience. The only way he can be comforted is to travel with the elves to the undying lands. His was the ultimate sacrifice to save middle earth. Sam of course is the unsung hero, who was the one who enabled Frodo to complete his task. Without him, nobody could consciously and purposefully destroy the ring on their own. It also took Gollum to play his role in destroying the ring - without him, Frodo and Sam couldn’t do it either.
Ya without Gollum they wouldn't have found their way out of Emyn Muil, they would have gotten caught at the Black Gate if they had maaged to make it out of there and they wouldn't have known about the Pass of Cirith Ungol not to mention no one being strong enough to voluntarily destroy the Ring at the Crack of Doom. Frodo's job was to get the Ring to the edge and he did that but it took the finger of Eru Illuvatar to give them (in the book only Gollum) a final push over the edge.
Frodo never voluntarily gave up the Ring and he longed for it and along with his other unhealed hurts his only chance at peace was sailing into the west.
Technically Sam was also a ring "bearer" if that means "transporting". Although he never bore it on his finger. I haven't read the book in a long time, but I recall it maybe made mention of residual effects on Sam from having it. I might be misremembering that bit though.
@ No, you’re absolutely right. The ring did impact Sam, even though he only carried the ring for a short time. He also went to the Havens and left middle earth at the end of his life as well. I think the longer you possess the ring, the more it harms your soul. And of course Frodo was stabbed by the Nazgul which worsened his physical condition even more.
@@who-nobody-never In the book Sam does wear it for a short time.
The boy who played the role of Eldarion, the first-born son of Aragorn and Arwen and his successor on the throne, is Sadwyn Brophy, son of fellow actor Jed Brophy , who plays the role of the dwarf Nori in the film adaptation of "The Hobbit", also directed by Peter Jackson.
Jed also played Sharku, the warg-riding orc leader from Two Towers.
Greatest trilogy of all time. It’s peak cinema. I don’t think this trilogy will ever be beaten.
Nice catch with the Faramir and Boromir connection about the arrows!
1:09:56 You are the second reaction video with LOTR I watch this week where you can hear a cat purr in the mic! Love it! 😂😂😂
probably two of the most iconic epic lines from RoTK are these two:
"I can't carry it for you, but I can carry you " - Samwise Gamgee
" You bow to noone " - King of Gondor - Aragorn
⬆️ THAT STILL ONLY COUNTS AS ONE!
Yes, the dead men of Dunharrow knew Isildur. They were allied with him and Gondor in the original war of the ring. However, when called upon, they didn't come. So, they lost their honor and Isildur cursed them to never rest until they held their oath. Seemingly doomed to live (undead) forever, Aragorn finally gives them a chance to rest in peace. As the rightful king of Gondor and descendant of Isildur, he was the only one who could give that to them.
39:13 Yeah, that scream is called the Wilhelm scream. It's been used a billion times in a different media. It's kind of funny once you notice it, you'll hear it everywhere.
Edit: Can't be sure without looking closer, but I believe Gondor is actually using Trebuchets not Catapults. The orcs *are* using catapults though. I know it seems like a subtle difference to some, but they function differently, just accomplish the same goal.
Edit 2: Yeah, the orcs should definitely be scared when Rohan charges. In battle, cavalry is far superior to average foot soldiers. So, even with inferior numbers, Rohan is *extremely* dangerous since they have no counter on the battlefield atm.
Edit 3: Answer to the lava flow cooling question: A crust will cool and form within minutes, but it can take months for the whole thing to cool.
Edit 4: Yes, the ring had a profound mental and physical effect on Frodo. Even after its destruction he still feels it. So, he leaves with Bilbo to the Undying Lands (where only immortals are allowed to live, with exceptions for Bilbo and Frodo. Samwise and Gimli are also allowed to come later.)
Sam and Rosie Cotton had thirteen children.
Okay verrrrryyy busy then
1.00.40 Great catch on the juxtaposition between when Frodo reached for Sam in FOTR and here. I don't think I've seen any first time reactors pick that.
The orcs were chanting "Grond" the battering ram named after Morgoth's hammer (the original dark lord in the book Silmarillion).
Tolkien universe is a vast one, i recommend reading The Hobbit(Bilbo's adventure), Lord of the Rings(Frodo's adventure) and The Silmarillion(history of the universe).
To answer some of the questions:
1-Yes elves drink, there is an occasion in the hobbit, where bilbo is imprisoned by elves and he escapes by using wine barrels.
2-Yes elves sleep, but they kinda like to stay awake at night to look at the stars, talk and sing.
3-Eldarion, Aragorn and Arwens son, is a mortal, because Arwen chose a a mortal life.but he had a larger life span like his father.
Actually Aragorn and Arwen are related, but enough time has passed between generations that it isnt weird anymore i suppose.
Elrond and Elros were brothers, their parents were an elf and a man, so they were given a choice to become an elf or a man, Elrond chose to be an elf and Elros chose to be a man, Aragorn is from Elros line.
4-The encounter between Gandalf and WK didnt happen like the movies in the books, actually in the books Gandalf and shadowfax stood their ground in the face of WK, when everyone else ran away.The paragraph that describes this encounter is the best in the whole book.
5-Frodo had to leave Middle Earth because he is granted passage to the Undying Lands, where he can heal from the Weathertop wound and other injuries he had to endure in his journey.
Undying lands is in a continent called Aman, and the realm is called Valinor, it is ruled by the leader of The Valar, called Manwe.
Only some elves are allowed to go and live there, Frodo, Bilbo, Legolas, Gimli are exceptions who were invited there because of their heroism.
Powerwise there are the following in Tolkien universe:
Eru Ilúvatar = God in Tolkien universe.
Valar = Angel like beings, there are 14 of them.Manwe is their king.Melkor is another one, he is the main bad guy(satan) and the first dark lord in Tolkien universe.Sauron was Melkors lietenant.
Maiar = Angel like beings but lesser in power compared to the Valar.Gandalf is a Maia, also the Balrog is a corrupted Mair.
Gandalf is my favorite character of all time, and i should say he is not allowed to use all of his powers in Middle Earth.
His role is only to give counsel.
As i said the lore is very rich in this universe and there are some people who made careers in studying Toliken works.(They are called Tolkien scholars).
Also would be cool to do the Hobbit movies too, they are not as good as lotr, but not that bad.
Oscars - the 3 movies - 30 nominations, 17 wins (4 for Fellowship, 2 for Towers and 11 for King).
Frodo never fully healed from his wounds, which means he could never stay happy in Middle-Earth. He, Gandalf, Bilbo, and the rest are going to the undying lands (Elf heaven essentially), where mortal beings usually aren't allowed. An exception is made for Frodo and Bilbo because they were ring bearers. In the appendices we learn that Sam becomes mayor of the Shire and lives a long and happy life. After his wife dies, he also sails west to the undying lands because he was briefly a ring bearer. So Frodo and Sam do meet again. Merry and Pippin spend their days with Aragorn in Gondor, and when they die they are buried next to Aragorn's grave. Legolas and Gimli remain friends, and their friendship heals the rift between Dwarf and Elf. When they reach their end, they also sail to the undying lands together. It's a massive honor for Gimli, being a dwarf, and never a ring bearer. Once they leave, the fellowship is gone from Middle Earth forever.
44:10 in the return of the king ps2 game, samwise pretty much wipes out the entire garrison.
Man, I’ve watched these movies (no exaggeration) probably about 50 times and you guys were bringing up some awesome points! I absolutely loved the parallel you drew about Sam reaching down to Frodo to pull him up at Mt. Doom just like Frodo did with Sam when he was underwater.
But none could rival her, Shelob the Great, the last child of Ungoliant to trouble the unhappy world. from The Two Towers (book).
Eagles: they are maiar, same level of divine beings as Gandalf
Great reactions to all the films!
It's one of the theories about them. Certainly they are referred to as the "eagles of Manwe" repeatedly. But with so many other things, especially origin stories, Tolkien seems to have gone back and forth between enforcing this idea and refuting it.
The reason the orcs fight in the tower of Cirith Ungol is because there are two orc commanders - one from the tower of cirith ungol, and one who has led a patrol up the tunnel (not seen in the movie) from minas morgul. The minas morgul patrol has come up because they saw the lights and heard the noise of sam's fight with shelob.
Both orc commanders realise that frodo didnt defeat shelob (he's wrapped up and unarmed). So they conclude that a powerful elf has penetrated the defences. At about the same time, Sam uses the light of earandil to dispel the watchers at the cirith ungol tower (the same as the statues at the bridge to minas morgul, except the statues are alive and their one job is to create a magic blocking barrier). When Sam dispels the barrier a gong sounds an alarm and both orc commanders know that only some serious magic could do that. And they both realise theyre in serious trouble - and the penalty is likely to be being fed to shelob, if theyre lucky.
One of the orc commander wants to try grovelling - by sending Frodo's things to sauron's tower - and the other wants to pretend nothing happened, which is a bad idea because sooner or later one of the other orcs will inform on them. One of the orc commanders goes so far as to suggest deserting together but the other one wont do it. After some argument each realises the other orc commander has left them no choice and violence is the only solution to their deadlock.
And thats why they come to blows.
Because the orcs commanders and their orcs are from different towers and chains of command they automatically despise each other, so when each commander calls on their orcs to fight they dont hesitate to join in.
The orcs that encounter sam in the tower all run away from him, because they can sense the ring, plus sam has the light and a glowing sword, all of which dont let them see him properly. The one orc who doesnt flee from sam is the orc commander, shagrat, and he falls down the ladder hole and dies. sam doesnt stab him (in the movie I think that orc is gorbag, the other orc commander. For some reason they mix them up).
I had to chuckle when you compared Shelob's movements to a cat! In the books, we're told that Sauron knows she's there in the mountains, but he doesn't mind because she's useful to him in that position as an unwitting sort of guard. And he called her "his Cat."
13.42 That's director Peter Jackson taking the arrow in his third cameo. Other members of the production team are standing around him. 20.52, that's Jacksons arm in shot, it was an additional scene and Sean Astin wasn't available, so Peter Jackson put the shirt on and did it.
I’m really enjoying your reaction to this movie. It deserved every one of the awards it walked away with.
You're the first one in a reaction I've seen who realizes how Gollum protects the ring until the last moment.
theres no official number of how many orcs were at the siege of minas tirith but the Middle Earth Weapons and Warfare guide estimated 250k
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I had my fingers crossed that Theoden's charge would be epic. I wept in the theater. "Forth Eorlingas!"
It’s overstated for the movie, but the Ring had no real grip on Sam while he held it- all it could do is offer visions of him as a master gardener, with vast acres of land to cultivate; naturally his hobbit common sense revolted against such grandiosity. But because he too was a Ringbearer, after Rosie passed and his children were grown, Sam would follow Frodo to the Undying Lands. Legolas and an elderly Gimli would also sail west in a boat the elf had built, and they were never heard of again.
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Just a clarification. Sam didn't move into Frodo's house at the end. That's his house. All Hobbits live in homes with round doors built into the side of a hill. All the good rooms are on the left bc they're the ones that face outside.
And all ring bearers leave Middle Earth, even Sam eventually, who becomes mayor. They are going to Valinor, the undying lands, where they will become immortal. Frodo can never be healed in Middle Earth and Sam will be more concerned for him than his own family. That's why Frodo says, "You can't always be torn in two. You will have to become one and whole for many years. Your part will go on." Sam needs to take care of Sam and his family and not worry about Mr. Frodo.
Great reactions tho. You guys didn't talk to much and felt what you were intended to feel. It's such a strong ending bc even we, the viewers, have to say goodbye and we don't want to either.
I know it looks as if all the elves departed at the end of this movie, but many elves like Celeborn and the sons of Elrond lingered for a long time yet. If it makes you feel any better, some sixty years after the events in the books, after the death of his beloved Rose, old Sam, the last of the ring-bearers, passed the Red Book onto his daughter Elanor, and took one of the last ships to the Undying Lands, rejoining Frodo after as long and as good a life as any Hobbit could ask for.
I was looking for this comment. I had remembered Sam had the ring at one point and there was residual effects. But I couldn't remember if and why not he went to the West. I actually bought a new copy of the books as I gave away my original copy. Hopefully I have some time to reread it all. The way they cut out book 6 always upset me.
@@who-nobody-never If you understood the craft of screenwriting and how it differs from novel writing, then you'd know why The Scouring of the Shire had to be cut. Even Christopher Lee understood why.
Aragorn's song is actually quoted from the words of Elendil (father of Isildur and Anarion, future kings of Gondor and Arnor) when he and the rest of the survivors of Numenor landed on Middle Earth. it was a pledge to make these lands their home in exile for all their days (IIRC).
Middle-Earth *is* (in a sense) our world - it's roughly analogous to Europe. Tolkien wrote the Silmarillion as a kind of proto-mythology for the Anglo-Saxon world which had been lost to time ever since the Norman conquest. He wanted to imagine how that ancient culture would have told stories about the world that were mythically true to them. The elves were sailing across the sea to an island that was made for them at the beginning of time, and it's where all the angels who govern the world dwell. You'd have to read the Silmarillion and Akallabeth to get all of that, but the long and short of it is that it's impossible for anybody but elves to sail there anymore - if mortal races tried, they'd just sail across the ocean eventually to whatever lands exist there, never reaching the Undying Lands. You can think of it as roughly analogous to Eden in the Bible. Numenor used to be an island that dwelled within sight of that land, as a reward for their service in the ancient war against the fallen angel Morgoth, but at the end their culture became obsessed with sailing to the Undying Lands (due in part to Sauron's influence), and was cast into the abyss of the sea. The only survivors were those who were still faithful and obedient to the angels, and sailed back to Middle Earth in secret before the rest of Numenor was punished. That's where Elendil and the Numenorean survivors came to found the great human kingdoms of Gondor and Arnor (Arnor is again another story, but the lands in the area of Hobbiton used to be part of a great Northern Kingdom that also eventually fell to ruin. Aragorn eventually reunites Arnor and Gondor during his rule).
You'd simply have to read the books to get all of that; the movies cut a lot of it out of necessity (and also made some changes that are a little capricious as well, such as Gandalf getting backed down by the Witch-King - that encounter went down *way* differently in the book. Gandalf had nothing to fear from the Nazgul.) The movies are great cinema, but they pale in comparison to Tolkien's masterworks.
Elrond's objection was not that Aragorn was a ranger. He knew his lineage, but that his daughter would marry no less than the high king of Arnor and Gondor. Also, Elrond was Aragorn's uncle... sort of as Aragorn was descended from Elrond's brother who chose to live a mortal life as a human while Elrond chose to live az an immortal elf.
Elrond's twin brother, named Elros. Elrond went through a lot of trauma and heartache himself, what with his wife (and Arwen's mother) kidnapped, poisoned, and left for Valinor, the separation from his brother, and being kidnapped and held by a corrupted elf when he was young.
1:11:49 Some have already commented on what the Grey Havens were and where the ship was going - but I'll toss this answer on the stack as well.
The Grey Havens were indeed an Elven harbor. The Elves still possess both the knowledge and the ability to sail "The Straight Road," upon which a ship can leave Middle Earth and reach Aman, The Blessed Realm. Tolkien's cosmology is interesting because Aman is a physical place in Arda (the world), and so doesn't directly correspond with what we might refer to as Heaven. Mortals permitted entrance to Aman do find it a place of wonderful bliss and healing, but the lands don't confer immortality. Bilbo and Frodo will, at some point, pass on to whatever end has been decreed for Hobbits.
And at some time will be The Great End, where even the immortals of Arda will pass on. But there will be a new Music! It will be greater than the first, and everyone shall know their part.
You still need to watch The Hobbit journey, you'll understand more of it
Sam gets to go on the boats later after being mayor a million times and having a troops of children. He gives bilbo and frodo's book to his daughter elanor to keep. (In the book, Sam not only carries the ring for a while, he actually wears it for awhile running around in Cirith Ungal.
Pippen has one kid and names him Faramir.
You mentioned that sauron could not stop the army of the dead. But let's think what might happen if Aragorn had not released them. Sauron could corrupt them. He could offer them power and turn them against Aragorn. In the end, why would they fight for a king who did not kept his word in the first place? They have a record of being traitors. They could do it again. Releasing them was the best and the most reasonable choice for Aragorn.
And the reason they “betrayed Isildur” in the first place, is because they had worshipped Sauron in the past.
Fun fact (probably already mentioned 12 times over by others) Gandalf, Sauron , Saruman, the Balrog,the Eagles are all basically lesser angels that take different forms, so one type of beings called Maiar
Yes but the Eagles were not Maiar instead they were created Manwë
@@joeylockie In Tolkien's many writings collected by his son Christopher, one of the possible sources of the great eagles were that they were maiar cloaked in the forms of eagles. Since he left a lot of things open-ended, the jury will forever be out on what the true beginnings of the great eagles were.
In the end all the hobbits become mayors and/or leaders in their different villages. Legolas and Gimli stayed in Gondor to help Aragorn rebuild. Then they visit Fangorn together and the glittering caves behind Helms Deep. There Gimli creates a new dwarven realm and becomes its lord. Legolas returns to his home in Mirkwood, but eventually it’s time for him to leave also for the Undying Lands. He builds a boat and he and a very old Gimli sail to the Undying Lands together, friends forever. Because of their love for each other the rift between the elves and dwarves ends and they all come together help Aragorn rebuild Minas Tirth. In old age, Merry and Pippin go to stay with Aragorn. They are laid to rest in Minas Tirth and when Aragorn passes, he’s laid next to them. After Rosie passes, Sam leaves his son as mayor of Hobbiton, and he takes the absolute last boat to leave Middle Earth. All the ring bearers were allowed to go to the Undying Lands, and since Sam held it for a few days, he is also allowed to go. He and Frodo are united in the Undying Lands.
So glad you loved these movies too. ❤
While a lot of this was in the appendices to the novel, it seems you also added a fair amount of your own headcanon into it.
Eagles back story: The Eagles are not just large birds. They are a full, sentient race much like Treebeard and the Ents. And much like the Ents had their own reasons for not joining the war which they believed to be men's problem and were deeply proud and stubborn. But like the Ents, the Eagles come to realize that they, as Merry said, are part of this world. Gwaihir, the Lord of the Eagles, is the one we see the most, who saves Gandalf from Saruman's tower. He saves Gandalf because Gandalf, I believe, saved him at some point in the past and they are friends which is why Gwaihir allows Gandalf to ride him. Gwaihir makes an appearance in the Hobbit films as well.
Gandalf healed Gwaihir after he'd been shot by an arrow from humans, as Gandalf relates in The Hobbit. Tolkien also hinted that the great eagles may not have even been mortal creatures, but maiar like Gandalf and the wizards, but in animal form.
1:11:11 yeah ur spot on... he came back home and realized he still had "wounds"(PTSD) that the ring and everything left on his soul😢So he had to go to a place where there's no sickness or death etc to finally be at peace
Proves the littlest people can have the Greatest Impact.
55:55 Great Eagles are messengers from Manwë (King of the Valar and basically King of the World). They also have the mission to help the free peoples against dark lords
I think Theoden's real reason for not taking Merry wasn't that no rider could take him but that he didn't want Merry to get killed. Just my opinion. However, love your reactions!
1.01.01 Another excellent observation from you that Mordor was held together by the magic of Sauron.
The Theoden story always makes me emotional. Honestly so good
How he didn't win an Oscar as best supporting actor is beyond me.
41:52 The King of the Dead is certainly cool, but Sauron is still on another level
lol the cat purring at the end
32:40 this is a depiction of the kind of "we dont know how to fight this, but have to" that was all of world war 1. the first war ever with machines and engines.
Gondor didn't got catapults... That's trebuchets.😄
A Trebuchet is a type of catapult 🤯 maybe stop trying to correct people, especially when your grammar is off 😅
Ever watch the Punkin' Chunkin' competition where various air cannons, centrifugal launchers, catapults and trebuchets all compete in their individual categories to fling a pumpkin as far as they can?
After his wife dies years and years and years later after he had been the mayor Sam leaves on a boat because tho he only held it for a short time he's a ring bearer so he got entry.
Merry and Pippin also have high ranks in Hobbit society have kids and when they're older leave for Gondor one ladt time and are buried with Aragorn.
Legolas cleans up the forest and Gimli helps the dwarves years later they travel together for awhile on more adventures then finally they get in the boat Legolas made and also sail to the elven land. Gimli can enter because he's Legolas friend and the only dwarf ever admitted.
So technically the fellowship all pretty much do all be together in the end in the elven land besides Merry, Pippin, and Aragorn who are still buried together.
Tolkien mentioned that one of the reasons Gimli was accepted into Valinor was at the request of Galadriel, who had his back.
31:10 Denathor's whole family is so durable. it takes 3 arrows or a whole body on fire to kill them. matter of fact, denathor survived till he hit the floor.
Maybe in your headcanon. In the book, he didn't run and jump anywhere--he closed the door to his family masoleum, which was burning, and cried out loudly as he died.
Every one of those skulls is a soul
"The way is shut. It was made by those who are dead and the dead keep it. The way is shut". I took this to mean that the way was shut with the skulls of those who died and when the barrier collapsed and the skulls fell out it opened the way.
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Frodo has a wound from the Ringwraith's blade in his shoulder that will never heal, so he had to go with the Elves to have peace.
Frodo had three wounds that troubled him ever after: from the Morgul-blade, from Shelob's sting, and the soul-deep spiritual damage from carrying the Ring all the way to the Cracks of Doom.
Frodo still had the Nazgûl wound hurting, and ptsd from the ring that mentally and physically tortured him for so long.
He sailed to a land where he’d find peace and they’d be able to heal him.
Imo he’s the mvp of the story for his sacrifice and deserved it.
Finally someone gives credit to Frodo in the comments. Mostly people seem to ignore him cause the movies did him a bit dirty.
i think youre confusing lava cooling with the process of island formation by underground volcano, which takes hundreds of years. but that is not because it takes the lava so long to cool, but because the island is formed layer by layer from eruptions over hundreds of years. depending on the size of the flow it can take years to cool, decades at most but certainly not hundreds of years
Regarding the Eagles: In Tolkiens Legendarium they are quasi-angelic beings, very old and extremely powerful. Gwaihir Lord of the Eagles was the one rescuing Gandalf from Orthanc. The eagles going to rescue Frodo and Sam are Gwaihir along with his brothers Meneldur and Landroval, after they attacked the fellbeasts of the Nazgul at the black gate as you can see in the movie. There is a great video with a snippet of Tolkien himself answering the very obvious question regarding the eagles.
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The pirate that Legolas shot on the boat was Peter Jackson, the director. I'm pretty sure he had small cameos in the other two movies.
The ugly orc (the "deformed Yoda from Hell", in your words), was actually based on Harvey Weinstein, who at the time was one of the producers of this film. Apparently, he was enough of a shitbag even before the rape allegations for the creators of the film to take this swipe at him. Which makes sense when the pretty blonde girl is desperately trying to get away from him at 38:26.
In Fellowship, he's one of the guys in Bree eating a carrot in the rain when the hobbits first get there.
In Two Towers, he's at the siege of Helm's Deep throwing a spear from the top of the wall.
Weinstein wasn't one of the producers of the film. Peter Jackson had gone to Weinstein's film company seeking to get Lord of the Rings made, and Weinstein made too many ridiculous demands over it, as well as wanting to make it only one film. PJ moved on and fortunately connected with New Line.
@@FrenchieQc PJ was also one of the Dunlendings cheering for Saruman earlier in the Two Towers.
"No man can kill me"
"I am no man"
And it was truth: a hobbit stabbed the Witch King (with a spelled Elvish dagger) and a woman finished him.
Close, it was an Numenorean dagger, made during the last War of the Ring. It was specifically made to fight Nazgul. The daggers cut the wraith off from Sauron's power making them mortal. So it was such a great tag team action because you have Merry cutting the Witch King off from is power base and then Eowyn delivering the coup de gras right though his head.
Yeah, we got it. Thank you.
“coconuts kill 350 ppl a year “ hahahah
Many (myself included) consider Sam to be the hero of this story. Frodo could not accomplish his mission without him. Also Smeagal/Gollum through sheer greed for the ring "played his part" in destroying it (recall what Gandalf said in the mines of Moria in the first movie).
Tolkien did say that Sam was probably the primary protagonist (the four hobbits were supposed to be the protagonists and all the other characters like Gandalf and Aragorn were support characters), but he also made it clear that every member of the Fellowship (as well as many other minor character and their peoples) contributed to the victory, and that if any of them had failed at their individual tasks, the entire endeavor would have failed. Teamwork really does make the dream work.
Aragon grow up with Arwen. His father was Elrond's friend and got killed. They were in love for a long time but Elrond told him, only when you become kind will you marry my daughter
Great reaction thanks do the Hobbitt next
No, Rosie and Sam did not move in to Bilbo/Frodos house.... the house is different, sams door is yellow, Bilbos door is green, also the fence is different....
But fun fact is,Sams daughter is played by Sean Astins real daughter. And Rosies son( who is actually a girl) is played by Sarahs real daugter 😊
Roise and Sam do infact move into Baggend, Frodo names Sam his heir and gives him everything he owned. Sam and Rosie move in shortly after their marriage and took care of Frodo along with starting their family.
@@Witherdrakein the books yes.... but not in the movies.... and they are watching the movies.... so...
Per tolkien, as Sam lives on, once his wife and kids grow and die and Sam is older and alone, because he was a ring bearer for a time, he is able to sail to the undying lands and reunite with Frodo
looking forward to the"watching lava cooling down" reaction 😉
1:10:38 Frodo's wounds are too deep, he would always carry them in Middle Earth.
Because of his role in destroying the ring (being a ring bearer), he was granted a pass to the Undying Lands to be healed. Sam wikk eventually go there too, many years later, after the death of his wife.
Do not let the name of the land misslead you, they would die there. The name is given because that's the land where the immortal being live
The guy on the boat that Legolas shot after Gimli tapped his bow was Peter Jackson in costume.
DEFINITELY read the books!
If you want to see more of this world, you have the hobbit series. It tells the story of Bilbo and the dwarves.
And Numenor the island where Aragorns people came from was based on the city of Atlantis.
Frodo was stabbed by one of the Nazgûl it left a mark on him so whenever the Nazgûl were close he could feel it's blade where he was stabbed it's why he is leaving he is goin to the Gray havens to the undying land where he can rest an live in peace
4.11 If you listen to Legolas' exposition on the Dimholt Rd, he explains they betrayed Isildur, hence the reason he cursed them.