Variety just dies as soon as late B rank. As you rank up the archetypes you encounter start to boil down to laser tanks, infinite AB chonky bots like OP's (laser/zim+melee flavours) and flying missile rats. Occasionally you will spot a double viento + melee + x on schneider legs boi or some weird RJS experiments but these are almost extinct in A.
@@GloriousGEOkinda out of topic but, you're one of the most chill ac6 content creator, haven't seen you namecalling, hating on other builds, or being salty in general. stay that way bro..
This is why I hate "Ranking" systems in PVP game modes. I used to run into all different kinds of fun builds online. I could play with different parts and have a great time. Everyone I knew was having fun in pvp. After this new Ranked PVP mode came out, its all the same cookie cutter builds dominating pvp even in non ranked modes. Its become so boring and lifeless now
That’s fair. I agree on the one hand, but on the other hand what you describe may just be a temporary super sweaty phase while the ranked mode is still new. Maybe it will calm down as time goes on. Also, I feel like if you make it to S rank, you will be a better player after for making the trip
@@benjaminreid5339mm I’m not so sure about that tho. So long as “ranked” exist, you will most likely come across meta builds that are present in this mode. Surely, you will play against fun and unique builds sometimes (which is very much more fun than playing against missile rats lol), but in the end, ppl will want to win. So everyone will opt for builds that will ensure that especially in high rank. It’s just the nature of “ranked” mode. It sucks, but it is what it is.
@@benjaminreid5339 Yeah maybe. Between all the Tank builds and disconnects its so hard to even climb the ladder. They really gotta come down on lag switchers and Disconnects.
Previous AC's were no different I played ranked religiously in ACFA it was also filled with the most "Meta" builds. Eventually the sweaty casuals dissipated and things were went individual build competitive.
I've been sticking to mostly Schneider Core parts, testing builds, aggressive glass cannon along with Missle boat. Haven't found a good combo I like besides my Red October build.
Dealer’s choice. Yall make some savage builds fr. I run a double scudder, split missile, laser shotty (not wuerger), but that build can be boring to some.
As a player on pc its slightly easier (only slightly) to chase the kite by not hard locking at the beginning of the chase and fly straight to the direction of the kite, then side boost to correct the path when it tries to switch direction.
I’m surprised thermidor was using a lamm kite, maybe he is just playing different meta builds here and there. He usually plays a weird melee build that absolutely destroys people.
After watching several videos, I have come to the conclusion that Fromsoft needs to implement weight classes. 50,000 to 60,000 = ultra-light/light weight. 60,000 to 70,000 = light/middle weight. 70,000 to 80,000 = middle/heavy. 80,000 to 90,000 = heavy. 90,000 and above = super heavy weight. Then have a "free-for-all" class (which is what we currently have). Or some permutation of this. It's the only way we're going to see any sort of build diversity, at this stage anyway.
At the very least, they should give über-light builds a little more stability, so they're not instantly staggered. As it is, the ONLY benefit is the gift of being nimble and having the ability to dodge nearly everything coming your way. But god save the queen if you're playing someone in another country, which is the case more often than not. Not salty or anything, I would just like to see even the lowly light builds be viable against these rolling bullet sponges. Personally, I don't enjoy being super heavy, i think it's quite boring just rushing straight ahead, guns blazing, until one of us runs out of AP. Don't get me wrong, not throwing shade, if it works it works. It's just not very compelling to watch. I don't think Fromsoft thought this through very well. I really do think the answer, or at least the easiest solution for now, would be weight divisions, and perhaps separate ranks for each class. Might give Fromsoft a better idea of what's the most popular play style. Or, it could totally fragment the community and destroy the multiplayer element entirely...
Nah, there's an actual T bag animation you can do. I'm just hopping because i hit rank 18 that fight. This is also our 3rd fight in a row, we been fighting each other a while.
@@GloriousGEO My Christmas was probably the best one I had in a long time. Me, my family and friends had an Animal Party tournament, It was wild. How about you?
@@siegfried7759 That sounds like a lot of fun! I had to attend 3 Christmas parties because there's no snow this year. Everyone just drove here from out of state. Crazy.
Man I don't feel like playing rank anymore after reaching B rank. 20+ matches in and most were either missile rats or laser tanks. Variety is just out of the window
One thing i will say you actually use terminal armor well most people i have faced using terminal armor play super passive and thus can't take advantage of it and just die
@@GloriousGEO yep it is a free win and all but always annoying to deal with it as it just makes the match last a little longer than it has any right to
@@GloriousGEOtanks have been horrible at least in the lower ranks i could dunk on tanks simply because the player is crutching on being a tank but B those that crutch on tank are fewer
@@GloriousGEO it's a tricky piece of equipment to utilise need good control of timing and spacing especially against human's. Master it though it's a lot of fun I run it on a light build and use it like deployable cover to block charge shot laser builds mostly it works on just about anyone pigeon's (Rats) can be a hassle. People see it does stagger damage and think weapon but it's a DEFENCE weapon so it best used defensively. I use it like deployable cover, as a trap when I'm getting rushed by similar builds to yours they fly right into it and stagger themselves. Or when I want to rush someone I put them out in front of me to cover my approach. It even has utility as a stress inducer just putting them out to piss someone off while you harass them cause you forcing them to have to watch where they move and shoot through them to get to you combined with a zoomies build that constantly circling and moving Ive had more rage quits with that build then others I'm surprised I haven't end up on Reddit forum 🤣.
@@GloriousGEO each shield absorbs about 2500AP in damage before detonating, the amount of stagger seems to vary based on how damage it receives prior. I'll drop some of my test footage from when I was figuring out it's mechanics in the discord for you.
I’ll just stick to regular Arena and modded games I’m a D rank and was hoping all the sweats and meta moved up But there are just as common down here in the rank
That first tank was really dumb. All he had to do was sit back and use splash damage by shooting the ground. Apparently doesnt know the game very well.
This game's pvp is such a missed opportunity, I rage quit for the first time yesterday after fighting keep away rats 5 matches in a row. I don't understand what the fun is in that, it requires 0 skill... They gotta buff assault boosting , give the ACs major mobility so that we can chase and kill those rats, or else there's no point in even playing this game. Maybe a limit to how many stupid missiles you can equip , idk something has to be done, or else the online will die very soon.
Variety just dies as soon as late B rank. As you rank up the archetypes you encounter start to boil down to laser tanks, infinite AB chonky bots like OP's (laser/zim+melee flavours) and flying missile rats. Occasionally you will spot a double viento + melee + x on schneider legs boi or some weird RJS experiments but these are almost extinct in A.
Yeah, things deteriorated really fast. Glad I S ranked early so I didn't have to deal with this until S ranks.
@@GloriousGEOkinda out of topic but, you're one of the most chill ac6 content creator, haven't seen you namecalling, hating on other builds, or being salty in general. stay that way bro..
@@vulnerablerummy Haha thanks. I'm just being adult. No need to stoop down to their level.
@@GloriousGEO Congrats on the S rank bro & Happy Holidays
@@Skrubus Thanks! Have a happy holiday as well!
I love how developers added stagger system yet the most effective assemble is “Don’t care about stagger shenanigans; just gonna drain your AP” build.
Haha, I know right.
I seriously think they added it in to make melee finishes more viable but, anyone who played AC4/4A would find this experience less rewarding
This is why I hate "Ranking" systems in PVP game modes. I used to run into all different kinds of fun builds online. I could play with different parts and have a great time. Everyone I knew was having fun in pvp. After this new Ranked PVP mode came out, its all the same cookie cutter builds dominating pvp even in non ranked modes. Its become so boring and lifeless now
Yeah, it sucks.
That’s fair. I agree on the one hand, but on the other hand what you describe may just be a temporary super sweaty phase while the ranked mode is still new. Maybe it will calm down as time goes on. Also, I feel like if you make it to S rank, you will be a better player after for making the trip
@@benjaminreid5339mm I’m not so sure about that tho. So long as “ranked” exist, you will most likely come across meta builds that are present in this mode. Surely, you will play against fun and unique builds sometimes (which is very much more fun than playing against missile rats lol), but in the end, ppl will want to win. So everyone will opt for builds that will ensure that especially in high rank. It’s just the nature of “ranked” mode. It sucks, but it is what it is.
@@benjaminreid5339 Yeah maybe. Between all the Tank builds and disconnects its so hard to even climb the ladder. They really gotta come down on lag switchers and Disconnects.
Previous AC's were no different I played ranked religiously in ACFA it was also filled with the most "Meta" builds. Eventually the sweaty casuals dissipated and things were went individual build competitive.
New build time! What should I use for my next S rank build?
Mw biped 1 rifle/laser rifle 1 melee 1 shoulder cannon 1 missile
@conharb Exactly. Cover can definitely determine a match.
I've been sticking to mostly Schneider Core parts, testing builds, aggressive glass cannon along with Missle boat. Haven't found a good combo I like besides my Red October build.
Dealer’s choice. Yall make some savage builds fr. I run a double scudder, split missile, laser shotty (not wuerger), but that build can be boring to some.
As a player on pc its slightly easier (only slightly) to chase the kite by not hard locking at the beginning of the chase and fly straight to the direction of the kite, then side boost to correct the path when it tries to switch direction.
Good to know!
When are they gonna add a big sniper rifle I can aim manually?
Some day, I hope.
4:26 insane clutch
I locked in.
I’m surprised thermidor was using a lamm kite, maybe he is just playing different meta builds here and there. He usually plays a weird melee build that absolutely destroys people.
He was on his S rank promotion, since I was fighting him as a S rank. Probably ran into a lot of tanks and stopped using melee.
@@GloriousGEO Ah ic ic that explains
That match against Chlorastraklos was the closest one I think I've seen
It was churazy
Can i ask you why use the laser rifle instead of the plasma rifle?
Only for hitting fast targets. Plasma better otherwise.
Starting to find the plasma rifle/aurora tanks very annoying to deal with.
Same.
Aurora is disgusting man
9:26 That was epic , missile rat kill with 1 hp left
I'm the king of clutches, heh.
After watching several videos, I have come to the conclusion that Fromsoft needs to implement weight classes. 50,000 to 60,000 = ultra-light/light weight. 60,000 to 70,000 = light/middle weight. 70,000 to 80,000 = middle/heavy. 80,000 to 90,000 = heavy. 90,000 and above = super heavy weight. Then have a "free-for-all" class (which is what we currently have). Or some permutation of this. It's the only way we're going to see any sort of build diversity, at this stage anyway.
Yeah
At the very least, they should give über-light builds a little more stability, so they're not instantly staggered. As it is, the ONLY benefit is the gift of being nimble and having the ability to dodge nearly everything coming your way. But god save the queen if you're playing someone in another country, which is the case more often than not. Not salty or anything, I would just like to see even the lowly light builds be viable against these rolling bullet sponges. Personally, I don't enjoy being super heavy, i think it's quite boring just rushing straight ahead, guns blazing, until one of us runs out of AP. Don't get me wrong, not throwing shade, if it works it works. It's just not very compelling to watch. I don't think Fromsoft thought this through very well.
I really do think the answer, or at least the easiest solution for now, would be weight divisions, and perhaps separate ranks for each class. Might give Fromsoft a better idea of what's the most popular play style. Or, it could totally fragment the community and destroy the multiplayer element entirely...
What platform?
I'm on pc.
Ransetsu build, strong but very different in terms of style
Yeah i've seen it used well
Teabagging Chloro's death camera at 4:30 was pretty disrespectful but that was such a clutch win so I don't blame you haha
Nah, there's an actual T bag animation you can do. I'm just hopping because i hit rank 18 that fight. This is also our 3rd fight in a row, we been fighting each other a while.
Ever see any BVO players up there?
Well, there's a lot of tanks here in S rank hell. So it scared off the BVO players.
Thanks for your contents!
I’m gaining a lot of advantages with your build.
Show 'em who's boss!
Every battle in this game looks like a Dragonball Z battle.
Hey Sieggy. How'd your Christmas go? It totally does look like dbz lol
@@GloriousGEO My Christmas was probably the best one I had in a long time. Me, my family and friends had an Animal Party tournament, It was wild. How about you?
@@siegfried7759 That sounds like a lot of fun! I had to attend 3 Christmas parties because there's no snow this year. Everyone just drove here from out of state. Crazy.
I actually fought that duel nebula dude myself. Glad I’m not the only guy who struggled.
dual nebs are so brutal. Hope you won as well.
@@GloriousGEO I did not sadly. My biped build didn’t have the range or DPS
@@andrewrogers3067 A shame. Tanks stat check a lot of builds.
Master class in fireworks
💯
Taka goes BEEP BEEP
lmao
This is what I show to people when they ask me why I hate ranked pvp
Yup
Man I don't feel like playing rank anymore after reaching B rank. 20+ matches in and most were either missile rats or laser tanks. Variety is just out of the window
True! Just cookie cutter meta builds left and right.
One thing i will say
you actually use terminal armor well
most people i have faced using terminal armor play super passive and thus can't take advantage of it and just die
The whole point of terminal is to play super aggresive. People just never learn.
@@GloriousGEO yep it is a free win and all but always annoying to deal with it as it just makes the match last a little longer than it has any right to
@@TROLLZORD101 true. I use to hate on terminal because of that until I realized it was key to killing tanks.
@@GloriousGEOtanks have been horrible at least in the lower ranks i could dunk on tanks simply because the player is crutching on being a tank but B those that crutch on tank are fewer
It's pretty bad
So many tanks
World of tanks
The Eule shield launcher would like to know you location. 😂 It the most effective counter i found to fighting builds like this one.
I've always wanted to give that a go. I'll add it to the list.
@@GloriousGEO it's a tricky piece of equipment to utilise need good control of timing and spacing especially against human's. Master it though it's a lot of fun I run it on a light build and use it like deployable cover to block charge shot
laser builds mostly it works on just about anyone pigeon's (Rats) can be a hassle. People see it does stagger damage and think weapon but it's a DEFENCE weapon so it best used defensively. I use it like deployable cover, as a trap when I'm getting rushed by similar builds to yours they fly right into it and stagger themselves. Or when I want to rush someone I put them out in front of me to cover my approach. It even has utility as a stress inducer just putting them out to piss someone off while you harass them cause you forcing them to have to watch where they move and shoot through them to get to you combined with a zoomies build that constantly circling and moving Ive had more rage quits with that build then others I'm surprised I haven't end up on Reddit forum 🤣.
Noted. I'll practice it for a bit in customs before jumping into ranked.
@@GloriousGEO each shield absorbs about 2500AP in damage before detonating, the amount of stagger seems to vary based on how damage it receives prior. I'll drop some of my test footage from when I was figuring out it's mechanics in the discord for you.
@@lucianjaeger4893 sounds good
I’ll just stick to regular Arena and modded games I’m a D rank and was hoping all the sweats and meta moved up
But there are just as common down here in the rank
Yup. Game is solved meta-wise.
i finally tried out your “double pump” weapon loadout and holy moly its unfair, i felt terrible just using it 😅😂😂
Lmao. Its really strong
@@GloriousGEO your build is definitely the best around rn! good job for real G!!!
Oh, that first match was painful to watch.
Nebula tanks are no joke to fight. I had to try everything to beat him. But I got rank 18 afterwards which is well worth the effort.
Nice matches vs those lame ass players.
Laser swap still going strong!
The fact its turned into using cover peak shooting is so bad.
It is indeed pretty bad.
laser turret
love me laser turret spam
Bloody neb alu tanks are soo annoying, like can you play a skillful build? Nice work on 1st one
Thx bro
That first tank was really dumb. All he had to do was sit back and use splash damage by shooting the ground. Apparently doesnt know the game very well.
Yet, I still barely won. Tanks are so broken.
Ranked has ruined this game’s multiplayer just like Trials ruined Destiny PvP. Everyone is a slave to the meta.
Sad to see.
This game's pvp is such a missed opportunity, I rage quit for the first time yesterday after fighting keep away rats 5 matches in a row. I don't understand what the fun is in that, it requires 0 skill... They gotta buff assault boosting , give the ACs major mobility so that we can chase and kill those rats, or else there's no point in even playing this game. Maybe a limit to how many stupid missiles you can equip , idk something has to be done, or else the online will die very soon.
They nerfed assault boosting in this patch actually. Lamm leg players are hella annoying to deal with.
Fist only
Fight club time
@@GloriousGEOhey! What’s the first rule of fight club???
@@jambothejoyful2966 don't talk about- ah damn
Everytime i see Thermidor playing i get so frustrated just by watching that It makes me want to uninstall the game
Oh? Why is that?
Let's say i just don't like his playstyle eheheh@@GloriousGEO
If time runs out who wins? The one with more hp left or the one who dealt more damage?
More hp left
so naturally that would be more advantageous for tanks right? seems whack@@GloriousGEO
It's hp% based. So it's not that bad.
Ranked in this game is truly a disappointment. No offense, you're not a bad pilot, but the meta of this game is abysmal.
It really is. I'll try to make some more builds that are off-meta and actually viable to go against the meta.