Final Fantasy VIII - Junction System Guide for Beginners
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- Опубликовано: 9 сен 2024
- Hopefully this will help newcomers to the game now that the Remaster is out. I keep seeing people struggle greatly with the system and ignore key points, some of which the game doesn't say much about if anything. This is mainly a non-spoiler guide. I also will not mention how to be broken in the game or how to abuse the system. Also, before anyone wants to mention it, yes that is how the game displays on a TV. I didn't do any stretching or anything to the video.
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FFVIII - The Stage is Set
FFVIII - Junction
FFVIII - The Salt Flats
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In all those years I learned two things:
FF8 -> People use too much summons
KH2 -> People use too less summons
Never used summons in kh2 only two times chicken little
@@oux3456 same but I used summons a lot on kh1 when I first played it
Uhhhhhh........what?
You're not wrong. In Final Fantasy XV and Kingdom Hearts 3 they're...there.
FF7 - Moderate use of summons depending on grinding
Even after reading the tutorials very very carefully I still came here to figure out what the hell I'm doing.
Because the language is terribly worded. Another reason why the game sucks so bad
@@lightningshy5287 doesn't suck its each to there own opinion idiot. Nothing hard to understand here unless your brain dead. I learnt this as 12 year old.
@@Hateious Whatever simp, the game still sucks
@@lightningshy5287 you do too and let me guess your favourite is 7. 8 has a great story and I don't give a fuck what you think ,carry on hating it as its one of the favourites so basically shut the fuck up you tard. Your not a leg to stand on simple gamer.
@@lightningshy5287 also emagine coming to a comment section of a game you hate. Silly little spastic XD.
Can't believe I waited until Ultimecia Castle to learn the system...
LMAO that makes two of us. I thought I'd be fine just doing auto junctioning the whole game
@@jdg1251 I played FF8 for the story, that's why I didn't care when it comes to junction. I did learn how to junction, tho, and it was enjoyable to do the post game content with proper junctions.
Absolute best guide I've found on the subject.
Agreed.
This guide actually helped me play this game without wanting to tear my hair out
I hope everyone understands how busted you can potentially make this game.
I hope that they understand this after a first playthrough. Less fun to be told how to plow through the game if you've never played it imo.
@@Bizkit047 I hear drawing twice in battle, no more, allows for the closest youll get to a balanced experience. Can you confirm that?
@@necroplastful idk for sure but I would say having 50 of each magic would be closest to having a balanced game.
@@Bizkit047 Would it be practical to up Zell and Irvin’s luck in an attempt to give them higher damage output? Or is luck not worth investing in?
@@lawrenceinsley4114 Aside from the GF abilities that up Luck, the actual stat boosts are a huge pain to farm. If you can, though, it's very worth it and can make their Limit Breaks devastating depending on how you do them
Just started this game, thank you for this guide, I was spamming summons and wondering how the hell magic works, but you made it very simple, thanks!
Okay... this is so fucking confusing... so GF are like Pokemons, in a sense? Okay I get that, you have your "pokemons" or whatever (LOLZ) But what the fuck is a Junction??? lmao
another question: my teacher or whatever just told me in a dialog box that I have a Gun and I have to press R1 to use it?? but when I press R1 in battles, nothing happen? do I have to equip this weapon or what? R1 Trigger? this is kinda hilarious now
@@FeelingShred Not entirely sure about the gun, but with Junction, think of equipping items onto your stats, it might cause a downgrade or an upgrade, but will allow you to use that said magic, thats what I got out of it when learning this. The video does explain Junction pretty well.
@@Renegado140 I watched 3 different videos on the Junction system, this one was the least informative video, merely repeating what the game tutorials say
@@Renegado140 But yeah I ended up learning it, I just finished that section on the Radio Tower with the Mechanical Spider boss, that section surprised me a lot, it was a lot of fun playing it, maybe this game is not all bad after all, I'm gonna commit to finishing Disc 1
FFVIII is my favorite game! I'm so glad this video exists! Too many "tutorials" just show people how to break the game rather than teaching people how the game actually works.
Okay... this is so fucking confusing... so GF are like Pokemons, in a sense? Okay I get that, you have your "pokemons" or whatever (LOLZ) But what the fuck is a Junction??? lmao
ah yeah, "min maxers" kind of tutorials... hate these... very spoiler-breaking for someone coming into the game 1st time
another question: my teacher or whatever just told me in a dialog box that I have a Gun and I have to press R1 to use it?? but when I press R1 in battles, nothing happen? do I have to equip this weapon or what? R1 Trigger? this is kinda hilarious now
@@FeelingShred wrack off with the spam, jesus christ u low IQ ingrate
someone knows how to use the internet properly 🤣🤣🤣
That journey to Esthar with Edea in your party soundtrack.....too sweet and nostalgic for me. Amazing. Great guide as well.
Spoilers much? This *is* a video expressly meant for newcomers to FF8 here.
I skipped out on 8 back in 1999. I always wondered why it got a bunk rap. Then I bought it on switch and had to deal with this "junctioning" shit. Understood completely. Thanks for the tutorial.
To be completely honest, I find the actual act of Junctioning to be pretty fine all thing considered. The main issue I have is how tedious Magic Drawing is, but the 3x Speed Booster in the Remaster makes it tons more bearable.
I don't like that the junctioning-system discourages you from casting spells in battle. You would only lower your stats.
The problem was that casting spells suck in this game. You can count the number of spells worth casting on one hand and most of the time you could just use an item to do the same job.
@@Bahaumt86 LOL I laugh every time I see that :
1- Even by playing on heavy spell-casting (which is what I did in my first playthrough), there is like 1 fight in the entire game that will last long enough to make the stat lost relevant.
2-There's a lot of magic it's extremely easy to junction magic you don't plan to use.
3-And this is also for the first message, magic is extremely easy to get through refinement, Drawing Magic is the worst way to get magic most of the times, if you need magic refine is the best option (not mentionning stuff like Card Mod).
Magic is perfectly viable as a playstyle and you can beat the entire game Omega Weapon included with it, the problem is Limit Break are so fucking OP in this game it's not worth using anything else.
I find it intriguing how people don't know about Card Mod. I get most of the important magic there like Pain, Flare, and Meltdown to name a few. Even before the Timber mission, I have already filled up to 7 pages of magic at x100 thanks to Card Mod.
@@CrashAriMP5N2O How does card mod work?
This video has taught me more than I ever learned about junctioning than when I played this games for hours as a kid on the original PS. I've just got the remaster on the Switch and this is going to be super helpful. Thanks!
Thank you so much for making this guide. I've just started playing the remaster this week and this has helped a lot with understanding the basics of junctioning and how to maximise the benefits from it.
I got 24 hours into the game without knowing to much about junctions and abilities I made a grave mistake.
Just picked up FF8 after sleeping on it for years, and this was incredibly helpful and easy to follow. Thanks!
Great guide my dude! Just started this game and had a tough time understanding the junction system, but now I get it and I'm ready to play this bad boy! Many thanks
Bro thank you so much for explaining when I bought this game i was already 5 hours in it grinding leveling up trying to understand this junction shit and learn it on my own but damn it was confusing so i looked on RUclips junction and your video popped up thanks again bro merry Christmas and happy new year
This is the perfect video for understanding the system. The junction system is actually really fun and enjoyable with the ONLY negative being how long drawing takes in my opinion.
Thank you for this tutorial.
21 years ago I blitzed through the campaign mainly relying on GF's.
I never really understood or fully utilised the Junctioning or Magic system so when I fought Adel on Disk 4 i got stuck. I couldn't use GF's (due to Rinoa) and had no decent magic to protect her. Once you engage in this area you cannot leave and gain only 1XP per random battle...so I was truly screwed.
Fast forward 21 years and i'm finally going back to try and beat this game once and for all. I still had no clue on the magic/junactioning system and your video really helped.
Wish me luck!
Good luck hope you beat it, 8 has a fantastic story. Its not the hardest of final fantasys but definitely worth a play. Just grind and get hands on squalls best limit and aura spells you'll become op.
Okay... this is so fucking confusing... so GF are like Pokemons, in a sense? Okay I get that, you have your "pokemons" or whatever (LOLZ) But what the fuck is a Junction??? lmao
another question: my teacher or whatever just told me in a dialog box that I have a Gun and I have to press R1 to use it?? but when I press R1 in battles, nothing happen? do I have to equip this weapon or what? R1 Trigger? this is kinda hilarious now
Thank you! My wife recently got me into the ff series, ive played 10 and 9 so far and started 8, the others were self explanitory but ff8 system threw me for a loop! Thanks again buddy!
I searched this because I couldn't remember what system FF8 used. Now I know and I remember how awesome it was.
Thank goodness I found this! This game is going to be much easier to get into. Thanks for the tutorial!
My only problem with the junction system was the constant drawing and switching, but I learned after my first playthrough the value of refining like he mentioned
Man I just watched this randomly; it all perfectly clicked. Downloaded the FF8 remaster and I’m playing it right now understanding how to get stronger. When I was younger I never understood it and so I stopped playing early in to the game. Coming back now with this is amazing
I have beaten this game at least 4 times when i was 9 years old (in 1998/9). Last night, I watched a RUclips video of someone summarizing the entire game in 45 minutes. I had absolutely no idea nor understood the story until last night. 9 years of age was just way too young for the brain to understand so many things. I see so many people on the internet complain about the Junction system and I have absolutely no memory of hating the system at all. After watching this video, it hit me. JESUS CHRIST, I was so so young to even understand any of this! No wonder, it all makes sense now. Never have I drawn magic from enemies NOR used the refined magic ONCE. I do remember ALWAYS using my summons. OMG
Thanks for this posting this. Now I know why I can't junction some stats. Straight and to the point. I'm on my first playthrough of FF8 and about I'd say 2/3 of the way.
dang. now that I know these simple tips the game is way more enjoyable even at a very early stage xD
I started playing this game for the first time ever today and the junction system just about killed it for me. Thanks for this.
Thanks! I just started this game today for the first time. I needed this!
I have a better understanding now, thank you for this now I can play the game with more power in my hand
One correction, Squall and Seifer do crit but it's not based on the luck stat. It's the R1 trigger pull for the gunblade. They always crit if you press the button with the right timing.
TFW No GF
and that's why the game sucks
Hey! Thank you for making this video. It really helps me a lot to understand the junction system better. January 17 2020
Absolute best junction tutorial on the internet! Thank you!
It's insane i forgot everything related to FF8, i mean i was already a noob back then but watching the video i'm like "did i do that back then ?" i had no idea what i was doing...
I don't even remember that Magic Drawing thing ... and i spend hundred of hours playing it and still forgot everything !
That video is perfect for me!
Exactly what I was looking for. I knew how to use it, but I didn't get that a higher stock of magic was better and I didn't know about refining
Great video, thank you. I played this as a teenager and, if I'm not mistaken, I completed the game. I do vaguely remember one boss being absurdly difficult. I'm sure I didn't understand the junction system half as well as I do now. When I read about FFVIII, the junction system is what everyone complaints about. To be honest, I think it sounds kind of cool and fun, but maybe it's just my nostalgia since VIII was so special to me. I really ought to pick up the remaster. I just hope it's as good as it is in my memory. Sometimes it's best to leave things in the past so we don't ruin them.
I'm finally going to give this game another try
I bought it the day it released
And I immediately started grinding and I was enjoying it immensely and then all the sudden I came to an enemy I could not beat
I already didn't understand the junction system but I just figured I would level up so high I wouldn't have to understand the system.
I tried for days and finally gave up meaning to return to it..... Now all these years later I finally have
I went through something similar with part 12 but then gave it another try a few months ago and absolutely loved it
And hoping that is the case with 8 as well
Wow, I just started the game and this video helped me a lot, thanks
This shit is more convoluted than FF2's system.
it has such a strange feeling as a system compared to other FF games.. like a pen and paper RPG.. but instead of turning me off, I’m up for one of the games being a little weird. It’s interesting. thx for explaining.
I finished this game on the ps1 without knowing how to use the renzokuken, didn't know you have to press r1.
you can finish the game without the junction, complete gfs, card etc
then you can replay it and have fun completing it
I thank u for this, I've played 8 several times over the years but u clarified things I needed to know, thank you fellow final fantasy fan
Thanks a lot for this I came straight to this video after trying to understand the in game tutorial
So... when's the Triple Triad guide?
Get the Quistis Card. Then get the Zell Card. Learn Card Mod. Boom, you've basically beat the first 2-3 Discs.
All you need to do is play defensively.
I don't feel good enough at TT, as fun as it is, to make a guide for it.
@@Bizkit047 TT is easy to exploit. On the first island is an enemy called glacial eye that spawns 100% of the time if you're touching the mountain at the top of the island. If you card glacial eye you have a 1/15 chance of getting jumbo cactuar. Play jumbo cactuar in the bottom left spot to start every TT game then follow up with Ifrit above jumbo cactuar. This causes the AI to use the exact same card placement in every match: (Top Left, Top Middle, Top Right, Bottom Right.) Now that you know where the computer is going to place his cards building a deck to exploit it is easy.
@@Starcraft88888 IIRC there are different AI's where they use "steps" to place cards where that strat may not work. But if it does work on all the types of AI then neat I guess.
Thanks! This is the only FF game that illuded me. Getting into it, now!
Thanks for this!!
I finally understand the system allot better now!
Playing viii for the first time, my 2nd ever FF and somehow everything you said in the first bit of the tutorial i was getting correct, the GF learning stats is a good bit of advice
Don't overthink it. The GF comparability only makes the summon quicker. Which can be raised by using it's elemental magic or the summon itself. I would recommend junctioning them based on the class you're going for. Also having two GFs equipped with opposing elements will cause their compatibility to go down.
One thing no one praises Junctions for, its how practical it is for element and status effects. Back in the FF6 days and before, lets say you needed to resist Earth. You would need to find a piece of gear that resisted that, and potentially was worse than what you are currently wearing. while in FF8, get 100 quakes, you now nullifies earth. And that is without sacrificing stats for that.
Just press R3 button and spam attacks. You are good to go.
Thanks Siiva, very cool
Hey, funny enough, I got FF8 Remastered a few days ago. I have had quite some difficulty with bosses.
Thanks Siiva, *_really_* appreciate it.
Epic, Siivagunner!
U have saved my life I am eternally grateful
Still learning it but much appreciated over here.
Definitely planning on getting FF8 soon. Thx for the video.
Great video
A little bit info overload but this just means I will be returning frequently
Or Im gonna need a good walkthrough to follow just long enough until I feel secure in my understanding
I know people don’t like the junction system. But I think it’s pretty cool and unique . I don’t think it’s that hard to learn.
Thanks for the guide I am going to use this as my reference.
I'm a newbie and because I still have no point of reference, I'm still pretty lost. Lol. I'm sure I'll get it though. Thanks for the help!
Summary : get 100 of any magic by drawing them or refining them -> junction them to your strength -> hit hard with your weapon! Got 100 units of a different spell? Check if they increase strength more and junction them if they do. Do that with all your stats -> win.
Thanks for the guide man it helped a ton!
Excellent tutorial thanks!
Better write all this down, this is all very usefull info.
You should mention something about how to obtain Triple Triad cards and what they can be refined into.
I did low-key imply it by showing Card ability on screen. If you start telling people to Card Mod, they'll learn how to break the game very fast if they spam card game. I prefer people learn how the system works first at the very least.
Haven't played this game, was looking foward to it but this system sounds awful to deal with.
Wellington Andrade it’s not too hard to figure out it just looks hard
@@ShinyUmbreon106 i hope so, i'm going to play it when i get the chance
this seems... extremely straight forward and easy... i just got FF8, and have never played it and was told to watch videos on how to junction because it’s confusing... but it seems extremely simple. you’re just combining a summon to yourself, which boosts specific stats based on the magic you’re combining it with, as well as able to use some of the magic of the summon.
The game doesn't break it down as easily, though it's still fairly straightforward in the game lmao
And the game doesn't tell you that the number of magics you junction to a stat matter. So unless you're curious and experiment yourself, some people have, like, 3 Firagas to their Strength at the final boss and won't understand why they hit like wet noodles.
Draw Aura from Seifer and use it on Ultimecia
Thanks a lot, newbie here and it helped a lot!
Thanks for this. This was super helpful
I can't believe I meet to watch a tutorial on RUclips for this game.
How to get past the title screen? I can’t figure it out and it keeps looping to the long video
You want a battle system to allow you to royally frick things in your favor. Press turn from Megaten does it and so does junctioning
This was awesome. Thanks!
Thank you for the video
This was super helpful, thank you!
One Q though: the junction system seems to encourage you to get 100 of a spell, and then because it junctions to a stat, never use then?
U can use them but don't get too excited
Spells are easy to get anyway so just use what you want lol.
There's still a bit of leeway, the 2nd best vitality junction is meltdown. However, meltdown is probably the best spell in the game. Losing a tiny bit of defense to completely remove the enemy's is worth it
@@212mochaman Thanks for the tip!
@@MZ-df6cn no probs. By the way, there isnt a single enemy in the game, bosses included, thats immune to it. Meltdown, aura, spam limit, win
So let’s say I draw cures from some enemies and now I have 10 cures. If I cast a cure during battle then I have 9.
If I were to assign those 9 cures to a stat/junction, does it lock those 9 cures to that stat, and I have to draw more cures before I can cast the spell in combat ?
They're not locked, you can use all spells in a character's inventory no matter their junctions. The only thing is, if you junction those 10 cures to your HP before the battle and they raised your max HP from 500 to 600, if you were to use Cure in battle, your maximum HP will go down (if you use all 10, your max HP will go back down to the initial 500). So it's better not to use the spells you have junctioned. It's the problem of the system, it discourages you to use the magic you have junctioned. Every battle can be completed by only using physical attacks though, and if you REALLY don't want to use any of the Cure spells you have junctioned (using a couple won't have much of an impact actually), you can use Potions. But it's easy to have 400 or more cure spells by refining items that enemies drop, so even if each of your 3 main characters has 100 Cures junctioned, you can safely use the 100 leftovers for out of battle healing if you don't want to deplete the stock of your 3 mains. The logic is the same for any of the stat junctioned, so if you have 100 Ultimas junctioned to your strength, it's better to never cast Ultima so your strength stays high (besides, since Ultima is a very rare spell, it's hard to replace those you used). The system is flawed, but it's fun, original and interesting imo. You're always excited to find new spells and in bigger quantity to check if they'll give you bigger stat increases.
I should play ff8 again. Fun game
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This was very helpful
Thank you. You're a Godsend.
Great tutorial, I was a bit confused and now understand junctioning much better. I didn't even know how to draw magic from enemies...
Can i ask a really dumb question? Im gonna anyway sorry but, how the hell do i equip items? Im at the part of the game where this tank just one shots each of my party and i need to equip pheonix downs but i genuinely cant find any answer online, i feel so dumb
Thanks for the video but who designed this system?? And why did this confusing system get the green light to go into the game?? Wtf
I wonder the same.
How confusing the junction system is is really overblown. Assign magic to stat, stat goes up, and the Auto commands get you most of the way there. The problem is that the UX for junctioning is awful and it takes way too much dinking around in menus to get anything done.
Also only being able to assign three battle commands is a crime, rendering almost all of them unusable because you immediately have to start making tough choices.
this game seems oddly complex and frustrating yet fun and satisfying at the same time ?
Abraham Wright welcome to literally the entirety of the Final Fantasy IP
Nice
FF8 is the worst of them all
(doesn't understand junction system)
FF8 is great
(after learning junction system)
FF8 IS LIFE
(after learning card mod abilities and the importance of triple triad)
fact
Yep can comform by far the worst ff game don't understand it.
FF8 is one of my favorite games in the series. Up there with 7, IX, X, and XV.
Yeah, the junction system was too complex for me as a kid and I could never finish the game 😅
Sooo basically I shouldn’t use magic or at least not to go crazy with it ..... not gonna lie I just started this game and I am instantly turned off I thought it would have been a bit more faithful to a traditional ff game with classes etc
Ty so much for this.
Although this is my favorite game of the series I’ve never understood the junction system .... maybe this video will help I’ll let you know ...
So did it help? XD
@@armorvil didn't get a chance to try it out yet but I will as soon as I get my hands on ff viii remastered
One of your older videos before you became the KH guy is an Omega beat down video isn't it?
I'm sure I'll find out soon after leaving this comment, but, why would i add AP to Ifrit HP+ Junction when I already have the Strength one? Can I have both? Great vid btw
Yes, you can learn multiple stat junctions per GF. So if one has HP & Str, you can get both of those and combine it with a GF that may have Spr/Mag/Vit to have all main stats be junctionable with just 2-3 GFs.
So in a nutshell. Depending on what magic you use on each stat, it'll affect what stat gets increased
Not exactly what stat, but *how much* the stat you linked the magic to is increased (all spells will increase any stat, but some spells are better for specific stats than others). And junction 100 of them (the max amount) for the best results.
On my first-ever playthrough of FFVIII: Remaster. Question: items are used to junction (boost stats)? So then if i use all of those items as magic in battles, the stats should then decrease as a result as they're not there anymore in the same quantity?
If you spam magic a lot that's junctioned to stats yea that can lower stats. If you use like 5 in a fight, it won't make a noticeable difference. An easy workaround to this is to put backup spells from refinining/drawing on party members that don't have junctions and then swap in magic every so often when it starts dipping (like if you use Life 10 times in a fight so you only have 90 Junctioned then transfer 10 from reserves.)
@Bizkit047 OK, thanks. Usually I enjoy stealing from enemies in my Final Fantasy games, so using the draw ability to get 100 of all items/magic will actually be part of the fun, then I will see how well I do w/out consuming too many of them in battles to keep my stats high. I think I understand it, but I'm only seven hours in to the game, might need a little more time to tweak things and see how it all works out.
So if I'm not relying on gf attacks does that mean if junction is correct too just use regular attack and limit break or also use spare magic.
just use regular attacks and limit breaks to be safe, but you can also use the spells that aren't junctioned to your stats with no downside (except depleting your stock of spells, of course), and it's not the end of the world either if you use magics that are junctioned. If you linked your Fire spells to your strength and use one fire in battle, your character's strength will decrease but it won't be very noticeable. However if you use up ALL 100 Fires that are linked to your strength, you will end up hitting enemies like a wet noodle with your physical attacks so don't do that, haha.
So first off LOVE the break down.
Second and more importantly. Junction exchange, I'm finding for some reason doesn't work in the beginning. It hasn't been working and I am up to the point where Squall is about to meet Quistis at the "secret area" i'm trying to junction exchange Selphie to Quistist but it's not working, Neither did it work during the field exam where i attempted to junction exchange Quistist to Selphie. Do you know why? is it just not unlocked till you go onto the first mission, and the become official permant party members?
Late to this, but never heard of that. I suppose it could lock you out of it until Dollet in some way since it's not really needed until then, but not 100% on that.
I'm late but something the author of this vid doesn't mention which is VERY useful is that, in the Switch submenu you can press square (ps controller - it's X on xbox or Y on nintendo) on a portrait to check if that character has junctions equipped. If they do, then switching will work.
You sound like Saiki's english dub voice. Awesome
I managed to beat the boss at the start of disc 4 with crappy junctions. Took me ages but I did it. Are there other bosses where I can’t use GFs in disc 4?
It's not very effective to use GFs on the final boss, or most of the final dungeon. You'll find out why.
are you Design Doc?
I'm curious how do you get more of something like fire? Say I used 80 fire how do I get back to having 100 fire
you either use Ifrit's ability to refine fire magics from items (from defeated enemies you should have quite a few "useless" items in your inventory whose sole purpose is to be turned into magics), or you have to draw them from an enemy you can draw Fire from. I guess you could also draw them from draw points in the world, but you would only draw 15 at most and would have to wait (run a certain number of steps) for it to refill (if it can be refilled : draw points with the best spells don't refill). There are also hidden invisible draw points on the world map
Honestly the only reason this game is so busted is that each system combos into each other so well and you can get such stupid results on the first disc. Primarily the card mod and magic refine abilities, those alone allow you to beat the game quite comfortably especially if you do a low level playthrough to keep enemies weak
didn't know about status defense
the story was good but draw magic uuf too much time consuming
Squall does crit, but only on his Limit Breaker Finishers.
or when you press the trigger as he attacks normally, yeah
@@armorvilby critical hit i mean the game using a random number to determine if Squall does double damage based on luck or not.
His Trigger doesn't require RNG and deals less damage than a normal critical hit (1.5 vs 2 multiplier)