Deep Space Nine Reviewed! (by a pedant) S2E22: THE WIRE

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  • @Unlimited_Lives
    @Unlimited_Lives  3 дня назад +12

    Today's Thought Experiment: What happened to Quark's contact?

    • @EvilDMMk3
      @EvilDMMk3 2 дня назад +17

      He got obsidian ordered.
      Today, even his mother claims that he was never born

    • @therwfer
      @therwfer 2 дня назад +14

      Opened a tailor shop on Deep Space 10

    • @alexneff
      @alexneff 2 дня назад +7

      He won a trip to Disneyland

    • @Taranis79
      @Taranis79 2 дня назад +4

      He 'volunteered' for the installation of that implant he was searching for ;-)

    • @wendyheatherwood
      @wendyheatherwood 2 дня назад +13

      Poor guy was really unlucky. He happened to be using the transporter right at the exact second a vole bit through a data cable that someone had accidentally left exposed during its last annual service. Only the bottom half of him materialised at the other end. So tragic. One in a billion chance they say, but the authorities checked everything over and confirmed that's exactly how it happened.

  • @s13gouf60
    @s13gouf60 2 дня назад +25

    The real main character of the show. In all seriousness, Garak and Dukat absolutely own any episode they participate in.

  • @woogha
    @woogha 2 дня назад +23

    Ah "i'm fine" the oldest and easiest lie.

  • @scottdavis3795
    @scottdavis3795 2 дня назад +18

    I want to call attention to one of the best exchanges (in my opinion) of all Star Trek. "Which were true and which weren't?" "My dear doctor, they're all true." "Even the lies." "ESPECIALLY the lies." Absolutely brilliant.

    • @johnpotts8308
      @johnpotts8308 2 дня назад +4

      It encapsulates Garak's entire character!

  • @Ceece20
    @Ceece20 2 дня назад +8

    God I love the character of Garek. “Never tell the truth when a lie will do” is such a twisted statement and flies in the face of conventional wisdom.
    To me, it is a reminder: these are aliens. Their thought process may be similar, but it still is fundamentally different.
    I love it when Trek is alien. I love it when it explores fundamental concepts like lies, deception, and the truth. Trek is at its best when I feel like the character is a dark mirror.

  • @davidscherp7514
    @davidscherp7514 2 дня назад +11

    Now this is a good one!

  • @SkylerLinux
    @SkylerLinux 2 дня назад +6

    I must admit, Garak's line about "They're all true" "Even the lies?" "Especially the Like" really is important as well as one of my favorite lines from Garak

    • @bryancorrell3689
      @bryancorrell3689 2 дня назад +2

      Garak lies all the time, even on little things, just to keep in practice. He probably really hates the novels he gets Bashir to read.

  • @c187rocks
    @c187rocks 2 дня назад +8

    Having just finished 'A Stitch in Time' recently it's interesting how Robinson built off this episode.

    • @drt1605
      @drt1605 2 дня назад

      Interviews suggest he had ideas as to how to make a one episode side character more significant back in 1st season. Here is where he really secured his place as a core character.

    • @KassFireborn
      @KassFireborn День назад +1

      I love that the nature of the character means every bit of that book that didn't work for me, I just wrote off as, "A lie he is telling to tell Bashir something about himself." A character in a million.

  • @reaverofjillsandwiches
    @reaverofjillsandwiches 2 дня назад +10

    This is such a cool episode and I love Garrek's attitude at the end. And I like the continuity of having the same actor play Tane in season 3, seems like a simple thing but such a small role I could easily see them using a different actor for. So I'm glad they keep the same one. And I really wish we got more from those 2, but what we get in the episodes he appears in is some good stuff.

    • @deanmottershead9208
      @deanmottershead9208 2 дня назад +2

      Tane gets more character than Harry Kim did in a bit part and a supportive role in a two parter

    • @reaverofjillsandwiches
      @reaverofjillsandwiches 2 дня назад

      @@deanmottershead9208 It really shows teh differences between the writing staffs of each show.

    • @deanmottershead9208
      @deanmottershead9208 2 дня назад +1

      @@reaverofjillsandwiches I love them both in different ways voyager had some good characters and good setting/idea its a good “I am stressed I want to unwind for 45 minutes” show

    • @reaverofjillsandwiches
      @reaverofjillsandwiches 2 дня назад

      @@deanmottershead9208 I can see that.

    • @drt1605
      @drt1605 2 дня назад +1

      ​@deanmottershead9208 absolutely! I don't enjoy criticising voyager but DS9 totally eclipses it

  • @flip7534
    @flip7534 2 дня назад +5

    At least the 3rd story was told to give Bashir the location of Tain and the ability to give Bashir the means to get the medical information he needed.
    Garak uses lies to get share information and to get what he wants. Why say there is an assassin after you, when you can just blow up your own shop?

  • @stephandolby
    @stephandolby 2 дня назад +4

    I know it's a rather insignificant part of the whole episode, but the way Bashir hides Garak's bottle of kanar, allowing Quark to surreptitiously remove said bottle, was a nice touch. I imagine you likely agreed as you showed this at around the two minute mark.
    Also, blue kanar... if there's one thing about Star Trek, it's that we learn there are many different types of kanar - at least three different colours, and it can be watery or syrupy - but they all go under a single name. Dukat was drinking the dark, syrupy stuff in the second part of _The Maquis_ (literally the previous episode) from a spiral bottle that we'll come to associate with the drink.

  • @dm121984
    @dm121984 2 дня назад +4

    Huh, i didn't get the allegory for substance abuse until you said it now, but it does totally fit and i agree with your conclusions.
    Re Garak's multi backstories, i believe the SF debris hypothesis that Elim is the "prim proper Cardassian" part of his own pysche, and the stories are all a high level summary of whatever it was that got him exiled. He did something that his conscience said was right but wasn't want a proper cardassian should do (proper civilian being whatever the state thinks that should be) and he feels the shame of "giving in" to his conscience. He's much like Quark in that regard; what he feels is morally good conflicts with what his society defines as good, and he's outcast because of it.

  • @johnpotts8308
    @johnpotts8308 2 дня назад +4

    For all Bashir's privacy violations, you can't deny his dedication to his patients. Despite the verbal (and indeed physical) attacks he still continues to treat Garak and flat out refuses to let Odo speak to him until he's recovered.

  • @rhimmerdale3436
    @rhimmerdale3436 2 дня назад +4

    One of my favorite DS9 episodes along with "Body Parts"

  • @edibleapeman2
    @edibleapeman2 2 дня назад +4

    Great episode, sir. I wasn’t aware of the term “spicy brain” until your channel popped into my life but I love it!

  • @DanteCorwyn
    @DanteCorwyn 2 дня назад +4

    Tailor and twink, that has to be the title of some slash fiction somewhere.

  • @rosswieloch1115
    @rosswieloch1115 2 дня назад +9

    Dominion Publishing? 😅😅😅

    • @dyne313
      @dyne313 2 дня назад +3

      Everybody's going to be so pleased when they find out how much we helped them.

    • @tisFrancesfault
      @tisFrancesfault 2 дня назад +2

      I hear they're pretty dominate in their own sector!

    • @fatalshore5068
      @fatalshore5068 2 дня назад

      They are a bit malleable if you ask me

  • @alantully455
    @alantully455 2 дня назад +4

    “Especially the lies” the best line in all of trek

  • @andymccurdy5029
    @andymccurdy5029 2 дня назад +3

    the great thing is we find out about his spicy brain an explains this grandiose behaviour in times like this

  • @wormwoodpearl1
    @wormwoodpearl1 2 дня назад +3

    As a maladaptive daydreamer, this episode hits different

  • @joelellis7035
    @joelellis7035 2 дня назад +3

    "Dominion Book Publishing?"

  • @LucasKeesee-vm8yp
    @LucasKeesee-vm8yp 2 дня назад +2

    DS9:
    My brain: "A very special episode."

  • @ComradePhoenix
    @ComradePhoenix 2 дня назад +2

    "Friend" is such a Garak-esque way of saying "lover".

  • @GnomePickles
    @GnomePickles 2 дня назад +2

    What I find fascinating is that Garak could go to Sisko or any Federation representative and say, "hi I am a former Obsidian Order officer, here are some crumbs of info," and he would be whisked away somewhere comfy.
    He instead remains in a place that is torture for him, somewhere where he is hated, because he cannot bring himself to betray Cardassia. A connection to the novel the Never Ending Sacrifice novel from the beginning of the episode.

  • @reaverofjillsandwiches
    @reaverofjillsandwiches 2 дня назад +2

    Damn, that was one of your best analysis sections. I never even thought of that for the stories Garrek tells, but it makes sense. And I never made the connection between Sisko and the Maquis story from the previous episodes. And maybe that wasn't even their intentions but as you say it would make perfect sense.

  • @ptonpc
    @ptonpc 2 дня назад +2

    What could possibly go wrong Space Dog? This was another great episode, one of its strengths is the things left unsaid. We never find out the 'true' story, characters are their moments showing they have lives outside of the episodes.

  • @tisFrancesfault
    @tisFrancesfault 2 дня назад +3

    see, I always have argued that Garek is an absolute patriot, and a master of his art. He is no psychopath or sociopath, hes not needlessly cruel, hes typically clinical and to the point. A professional. However, his conscience was sacrificed years ago. conscience is a luxury, and what is your own conscience to the state that you love?
    If small terrorism and atrocity is needed, then he will gladly bare that weight of that requirement.
    True self sacrifice; conscience, Honour and home. all surrendered in service of Cardassia.

    • @Synthonym
      @Synthonym 2 дня назад

      After the events of DS9 Garak eventually becomes the leader of Cardassia as the head of it's burgeoning democratic movement. In the book A Stitch In Time we get his thoughts on how his love for his nation and his desire to contribute saw him twisted into a monster by not only his government, but his own father.
      Enabran Tain was a deeply evil man, but that sort of thing isn't apparent to a child that just wants their parent to love them. It took the horrors of the occupation to start breaking Garak's indoctrination, but even years afterwards he's conflicted between what he knows is right, and what his people (aka government) want from him

  • @Doctoranthetardis
    @Doctoranthetardis 2 дня назад +2

    I love those space dog skits

  • @Duke_Sliscus
    @Duke_Sliscus 2 дня назад +2

    This is my fav DS9 episode

  • @drt1605
    @drt1605 2 дня назад +1

    Wow. You went THERE. Neurodivergence. Kudos. If I could afford to pay I would instantly. Best Star Trek channel by a mile.

  • @DonMatek
    @DonMatek 2 дня назад +2

    Nice timing. Have a great weekend!

  • @MKDumas1981
    @MKDumas1981 2 дня назад +1

    The screenshot at 0:31 makes Siddig El Fadil look more like Bronson Pinchot than I'm comfortable with.

  • @Tolly7249
    @Tolly7249 2 дня назад +1

    The Garak/Bashir relationship is always amazing and especially in this episode. Where is the truth? Does it even matter? What matters is that Bashir keeps trying and I don't think Garak's ever had that before.

  • @dm121984
    @dm121984 2 дня назад +1

    Ah the Garak pseudo backstory episode. Love this episode as it really built out Garak's character.

  • @keyrtan
    @keyrtan 2 дня назад +1

    DS9 has a funny relationship with its technology. In one episode they'll be talking about how welded together everything is, while in another they're casually using the transporter instead of a gurney. Not that Bashir would have anyone to help him since he has no nurses despite being the only doctor for an entire space station. Then there is the miraculously appearing tricorder that people sometimes have and other times don't. On a ship it somewhat makes sense that they would just have one sitting in every room but on a station people would need to carry their equipment. Finally in this episode synthesizing white blood cells (something we can do in a few hours) will take too long but they have time to hop on a shuttle and travel to a Cardassian colony and back.

  • @moonkey2712
    @moonkey2712 2 дня назад +8

    I'm sure that you're aware of this, but the actor who played plain simple Garrick understood that his relationship with Brashear was a queer (read gay) one. The showrunners were not on board, and the actors were told to downplay it. Many years later however, a fanfic was written where they became lovers and spent decades together. The actors loved it so much that they narrated the audiobook.
    So that lives in my headcannon forever.

    • @Synthonym
      @Synthonym 2 дня назад

      I know the fic you're thinking of, however more to the point the official novel A Stitch In Time (written by Andrew Robinson himself) explicitly states that Garak and Bashir were on/off lovers

  • @FailSonOfAnarchy
    @FailSonOfAnarchy 2 дня назад +1

    Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Twink

  • @TenniellesChannel
    @TenniellesChannel 2 дня назад +1

    Excellent 😁👍
    Thanks for another great review 💚🌹💚you are appreciated

  • @tomsenior7405
    @tomsenior7405 2 дня назад +1

    I thoroughly enjoyed this review. Damn fine work. Despite the fact that I have not seen any DS9 episodes, I am now coming up to speed with the lore (I know, two series in and I am only just beginning to understand what the hell is going on). Character names remain elusive though: Gull Duck goose? Galgadot? Doctor Bashy station.? It doesn't matter, I will get there in the end. Excellent, Cheers

    • @Synthonym
      @Synthonym 2 дня назад +1

      Gul Dukat. Gul is a military rank, Dukat is his family name. I don't think we ever find out what Dukat's first name is

    • @tomsenior7405
      @tomsenior7405 2 дня назад

      @@Synthonym Excellent. Cheers.

  • @ThomasReeves-s7u
    @ThomasReeves-s7u День назад

    I admit I totally didn't pick up on the gay/bi vibes intended between Garak and Bashir when I watched this back when. And it's not because I was unaware of such things, but I think back then I needed something a bit more overt than this to figure it out. (And Garak isn't human. If he had been human, and acted the same way, I might have figured he was interested in Bashir.)
    This is a classic episode and somehow "I forgive for whatever it is you think you've done" is somehow really sweet.

  • @jasonscarborough94
    @jasonscarborough94 2 дня назад

    1:47 Compared to the shit Dr Flox did on Enterprise, that's nothing

  • @rodtee4894
    @rodtee4894 2 дня назад

    A tailor and twink episode...😉

  • @Pisti846
    @Pisti846 2 дня назад +1

    Cardigans?????????????

  • @Arenumberg
    @Arenumberg 2 дня назад

    Especially the lies