This is what people don't get, don't do pea/dot method on laptops because it's not a normal cpu/gpu. It's essentially a de-lided cpu/gpu meaning you absolutely need to cover every part of the metal with paste
This is absolutely the way to go, already opened my laptop once before to re-apply thermalpaste, made no difference.. Opened it up to repaste and clean it now (6 months from last repaste), and found it was not spread evenly. I now spread it out evenly myself on both the heatsink and cpu/gpu. Thermals went from 95 on cpu/91 on gpu (stresstest), to 80-85cpu/75-80gpu (stresstest). No more throttling and works like a charm! Used NT-H1 thermal paste. To anyone having issues with temps also look up undervolting your cpu. Great video!
Yeah, when i overtighten it last year from my first attempt in repasting, the result are a really worst temps. But in my helios 300 (2017 15 inch) unit giving that more paste than rice grain result in a same worst temps, i get the best when i only do it like a little bit longer than rice grain, let it spread and when i open it next year (now) to repaste it again after i notice some thermal performance drop. I see the paste spreading evenly (probably due to the black tape at the heatsink trapping the paste on the cpu & gpu die). By the way, i only use 1mm thermal pads on all chips and it's working fine, but indeed there is some chips that need 0.5mm, probably cause of my thermal pads are elastic (thank god), otherwise i would crush the chip and brick the board. I didn't recommend using all 1mm pad on the chip, but if you're using arctic thermal pad, maybe your chips would be safe since that one are elastic. Overtighten and overpasting resulted in avg temps staying at 93-95 with max fan (game ark survival, high) for cpu while gpu at 85-90 all in celsius. After using considerable amount of paste and not overtighten it i got 84 avg and 74 avg for gpu all in celsius. That's funny cause i didn't even undervolt it, undervolt -0.125V giving me 75 avg cpu and 68 avg on gpu (120 core 300 memory OC) all in celsius, and that's damn decent for i7 7700hq + overclocked gtx 1060m (same game, ark survival at high setting). Ah i forgot, and thanks for your recommendation about thermal pad and paste. Your tutorials last year are really helping me out.
Hotel Hero, can too much core overclock applied on the GPU over +170MHz for GTX 1070 can damage the resistors of the mobo? Since this gpu is soldered to the mainbord. Because if yes, that's why my laptop keeps freezing and cold shutdown itself when using it. All of my temps were right, no overheating. Even if I use stock settings, on battery, it does the same problem.
@@HotelHero I said can TOO MUCH overclocking on the GPU core can damage the mobo/resistors/capacitors? Because my overclock was stable for 3 weeks and after 3 weeks of usage with these settings 170MHz+ core and +450MHz mem. The 5s freeze and cold shutdown stuff happened this Month first week. I tried everything, re-installing windows 10, swapping drivers of the gpu, using stock settings (no oc), even on sector or on battery... It still does the same problem, randomly freezes when I use my computer in action then shutdown itself. My battery is fine, there was no overheating. So can a higher oc damage the laptop?
This video saved my laptop. Bought an MSI GE75 RTX2080 laptop for cheap. This thing was going up to 96 degrees while gaming. I opened it up for a repaste. I figured I can probably do it myself. Something just looked off when I took off the heatsink but I couldn't put my finger on it. Then I saw your video and realized what it was. Someone put thermal paste on the chips that are supposed to have thermal pads. I mean this stuff was everywhere. Cleaned everything off and applied new pads and thermal on CPU/GPU. Now it doesn't exceed 80 degrees under full load. Thnx a lot!
That thing on the chips is different than the paste on the cpu/gpu. That paste is actually better than pads if they contact properly. So your problem was probably just the thermal paste on the cpu/gpu
I've just repasted my first laptop by using the spread method as shown in the video. The laptop was still on its factory thermal paste and I've had it for 8 years now. I was shocked when I saw The CPU temperature drop by 20*C! I was hitting 94*C under all-core load before and now it's 74*C. I'm so happy! The GPU temps dropped too from 62*C to 58*C (tested with Unigine Heaven benchmark).
Many thanks for the video, I've re-placed a 45W with a 55W TDU laptop CPU and still managed decent temps without thermal throttling. Your video came in handy.
Spot on. Just a line or a centre blob is NOT enough. We do have to have a thin layer, just like Thermal Grizzly recommends. Temps will effectively go down AND IT ALSO MINIMISES THE PUMP OUT effect. Great, great video. 👍
I recommend to try phase-change material Honeywell PTM7950. It comes as a sheet and you don't have to mess around with any applying dots, dashes or crosses. Just cut out a piece the size of the IHS/core and stick it on. Also don't have to worry about whether the paste is too little or too much - it will be just right. In addition, it lasts longer, performs works better than traditional pastes and there is no pump-out effect.
I've just repasted my laptop, and now GPU is not showing all the time in AIDA64. Sometimes i see it sometimes no. Whats the problem? I think it was a thin layer
Hello. I accidently damaged the black square ped on copper heatsink (seen on 12:55) with acetone while I was trying to renew the thermal paste on my laptops cpu. And I had to remove it completely. After the process, my laptops cpu works with 60 C- 70 C while I watch netflix, but the chasis is burning like crazy, even my SSD harddisk reaches 52 C, the keyboard burns!. So, do anyone know that happened because of the square ped I removed? Shall I cut a new thermal pad and stick there in same shape? Is that works? Or I did apply the paste in wrong way. I do not know what to do, can anyone help me please?
Help me please...i simply dont know what to do..i ve bought MSI GL76 and while i play games, my CPU gets 90-97 C with turbo cooling boost...can someone tell is that ok or not - internet have so few info about this laptop, half people\manuals say that this is ok and the other half says that this is catastrofic(after 0,5-1 yeah i will have peace of junk)...i think i am going crazy(this is my first laptop)...
If your laptop isn't shutting down all by itself to protect itself from temperatures then there's nothing wrong. Only issue is at 92-95 C for most laptops the CPU will thermal throttle (slow down) to lower temps which can reduce gaming performance. It's not damaging just not good for framerates.
hey bro my thermal pads on side chips were degraded so the technician pasted new ones but it didnt help with temps and made it worse probably cause it was thick. so can i apply non conductive thermal paste instead of thermal pads as i dont have correct measurement of it?
2:18 when applying liquid metal it would be best practise to apply a conformal coating to the resistors and capacitors surrounding the cpu and gpu. One coating I like is "MG Chemicals 422C Silicone Conformal Coating". If you live on the coast like I do, you could coat your entire board (excluding cpu/gpu dies, slots and connectors of course) in this stuff to prevent corrosion and short circuits from humidity.
Conformal coating is also another method. I suggested nail polish because it's cheap and comes with an applicator pretty much built in. Conformal coating typically is in a spray can so if you desire to only coat around the die, it would be a bit messy. Also suggesting to coat the entire mobo I wouldn't recommend, as it can cause plugs/latches for ribbon cables etc to become stuck and if a component needs replacing it would make it difficult.
@@HotelHero 422C usually comes in bottles and is applied with a brush. You can still easily repair the board as you can solder straight through 422C. If need be, you can remove it with a conformal coating stripper. I did also mention in my original post to not coat/let it get on connectors, slots, etc.
Hello can u tell me what thickness did thermal pad u used on the video. i was thinking is it better when i use thermal paste on the cpu, gpu and use thermal pad on vram like the surrounding area of gpu and cpu ( i dont know what is that called ) & using the . or should i just use my thermal pad on gpu cpu and like the surrounding area of gpu and cpu. Thank u!
aight imma try this now update: Ive tried pea sized and line method in the past. They kinda worked fine but after gaming for an hour, my lappy (Acer nitro 5 ryzen 3550h/gtx1650) started to thermal throttle(95-100°C). i thought my laptop's a goner. but then i tried this spread method and damn its working! played gta v for first 40 mins in max and am getting stable 90-92°C without any thermal throttle (ik its still pretty high but Atleast its still better than experiencing thermal throttle every 2 minutes). I tried AC valhalla as well played for 40 mins and got stable 90-93°C on it throughout without any issue. the temperatures are probably high because of the environment where i live in xddd which is about 40°C
Give yourself extra time if you've not done something like this before. When the paste heats up for the first time it may show good temps but as it softens it may settle and not perform as good as it initially did. You may have to reopen and add a bit or adjust your thermal pad spacing to get temps to remain good.
@@HotelHero Utilized 1 gram of Kryonaut whilst performing the repaste today. We will see how things shake out. Thank you for the supreme advice and the vid.
Hello Hotel Hero, im lost i got a Helios 300 317-52 and i tried all nothing helps. I Undervolt GPU and CPU i repaste 4 times i did everything and my Laptop is during gaming nonstop on 95° at the GPU and CPU i dont know what to do anymore. It Throttles so hard that i got the first few minutes 100 fps after 5mins drops too 60 and then downspikes to 20-30. Dont know any further i tried everything suggested
What is the problem with squishing the thermal pads? The thinner the pad the better the heat conductivity and if you get metal to metal on the cpu and gpu thats a good thing as well... So why not tighten it well?
Because if you squish beyond the OEM thickness you'll have metal to metal contact between die and heat plate = overheating and squishes paste out from plate
@@HotelHero OK i think you got something wrong there, metal to metal contact is not a problem in fact its desirable, the heatpaste is only there to fill the microscopic or bigger gaps where there is no metal to metal contact but its not supposed to get in the way of metal to metal contact - at least as far as i understand it
@@HotelHero Metal is far better at conducting heat than any thermal paste is, copper has a thermal conductivity of 384 W/mK, while a good thermal paste with metal or graphite particles in it has only about 10W/mK - air though only has a conductivity of 0.026W/mK. So the idea of the thermal paste is to replace the air that would be between the die and the heatsink, due to their roughness and uneveness, because the paste is about 300x better at conducting heat than air. However the metal is still 30x better yet than the thermal paste is. Metal to metal contact is therefor ideal. Also the heat flow through a barrier is inversly proportional to the thickness of that barrier - the thicker the insulation or wall the slower the heat will flow through it, because the temperture gradient across the material will be more shallow - we know this from every day life. That means that you want the least amount of thermal paste seperating the two metal surfaces. If the heat has to flow through 2x the amount/thickness of thermal paste then only half the watts are going to flow through it (if the temperature difference would stay the same between die and heatsink, in reality the die will heat up and the temperature gradient will increase again and the same watts are going to flow again just with a slightly hotter die) - thats why you dont want any seperation of the metal surfaces. So there you go - the thermal paste is only there to replace the air that would otherwise be inside the microscopic scratches and roughness of the metal surfaces but NOT to get inbetween the metal surfaces where there would otherwise have been metal to metal contact, and you certainly dont want a thicker layer of insulation between the metals made out of thermal paste, which sucks at conducting heat, relative to the metal. Please tell me if you disagree or not...
I just repasted my Helios 300 2019 using spread method with Arctic MX-4, and after booting up my discrete GPU can't be detected. After refreshing device manager my GPU appeared. I tried using applications which uses my GPU, looking at Predator Sense the core% is at (-1%) while my temp. is increasing to upwards 90+C until I get BSOD. I tried reinstalling and updating the Nvidia drivers but still the same results. Any help?
Update: I opened my Helios again and observed that the paste from the GPU seems have no contact with the heatsink. So I cleaned, and repasted it again with spread method but more thicker than before (which I just covered with just enough to cover the GPU). Viola, it works with amazing temps.
@@ThatOmadGuy Strange, did you replace the thermal pads? Sometimes even 0.5mm can mean the difference between contact and no contact. Glad it worked out though
Hey boss, I just applied mx4 and my temps actually went up, but I think i know why. U see these heatpads (not the paste on the processor/gpu, i mean the pads on the heatsink). I fucked up and removed some of them, and i am not certain of the measurements. Right now I limited my cpu to 99% max power because my temps have been hitting 100. I wanna replace all the pads and redo this right, any advice? Are the correct thermal pad measurements super essential, and where should I be putting them? (thank fully I took pics of the heatsink when I first opened it so I do have the old factory default outline) This is a lenovo legion C7 btw
I don't own a Legion but atypical thickness for thermal pads is 1.5mm. I'd definitely not use the system until you get those pads replaced because those chips/VRMs can fry.
I did a repaste to my old laptop's GPU, somehow after that, the GPU stopped working, I first I thought it was a driver malfunction, but it didn't respond. It was being recognized by Windows, but there was a warning sign on the device manager
How would you determine what size of thermal pads your laptop needs. This my conflict before opening my laptop and replacing the thermal pads and thermal paste.
@@HotelHero I don't know of other model is like you say, but for the G3-571, which is mine, i tried 1.5 with 1.0 and didn't work I learned it the hard way that is only 1.0 mm sadly
Thx for the tips about applying paste. I have a G9-793 from 2016 I want to repaste, since it's out of warranty, and very very hot while gaming, but can't find any info about the thermal pads. I saw in this video the cooler for predator 15 which is similar, and wanted to ask about the thickness of the pads. Is 1.5mm ok ? are all the pads the same thickness ? and how much do I need ? 100x100 or I can get away with 2pcs of 120x20mm? thx in advance if you have the time to answer these questions !
If you go 1.5mm you may have to re-tighten the heat plates once the pads get warm/soft. That way if the pad is slightly too think it will confirm to the chips and reach proper clearance/spacing.
So you don'y need the plastic tape stuff at all over the pins? I re-pasted my FX505DV yesterday and it made no difference, but I left the little tapes on my CPU and GPU. there's no paste underneath them, but I wonder if it would be better without them. My GPU maxes out at 86 degrees when playing Modern Warfare 2019 and my CPU is always around 89-91 degrees when playing any games.
I've never changed the paste on my laptop and it worked great for at least 15 years, not sure if it's too late to do it now, it is not working at the moment, it's rebooting itself. Getting a new PC anyway, but I want to fix it if it is still fixable...
If it's possible could you do this aswell with a medion erazer P6689, because there is like no information on this laptop on how to open/apply thermal paste.
Thanks for the infos, i did it last time with my gpu using a cheap white thermal paste, after starting my pc it burned i saw fire 🔥 and smoke coming from it, didn't know what was the problem ?
I love the video. Can you make a video all about replacing thermal pads on a laptop? Like where to put them and how to find the right size? And maybe some reccomended brands.
I have a laptop i bought 3 years ago and it started to reach high temp these days. I had a stress test on XTU and CPU gets 98-99 and GPU gets 90 degrees during the test. I am not an expert but it is hot as far as i know. I am thinking about using new thermal paste by doing things you recommend (which i appreciate a lot) I have a few questions though. 1) Should i try to clean GPU chips? If so, how? 2) Should i use that piece of glass to spread all over CPU and GPU? 3) Is it possible to use the same thermal paste on GPU and CPU? I hope you reply back, THANKS!
@@HotelHero Yeah, i do. I have a pure alcohol. Is it possible to use on chips (VRAM) And i repasted both GPU and CPU but this time CPU reaches over 90 time to time. It goes around over 90 and 80's time to time.. Is it related with pasting problem?
Tha is bro that's what I've been having problems with I repasted and then I tried to tighten the screws as hard as i could and my temps are about the same if not worse . I have Dell xps 15 9570 of u have any advice it's most certainly welcome and I'm here to learn . I wanted it to stop throttling . I used thermaltake tg7 thermal paste from best buy .
Depending on the screw config (spring set or not) that could certainly cause issues. Like I discussed in the video most systems thermal pads provide the spacing required for proper paste application. Also I recommend giving MX4 a try. It's really good paste and last super long, the 2019 release has a advertised lifespan of 8 years.
This got your temps down? I repasted a few weeks ago, but used the standard blob in the middle like I've done on plenty of desktop chips. My temps are better, but nothing like they ought to be. Been thinking about repasting again using this spreader technique.
Having acer Helios 300 i5 8th gen 1060 with temps reaching 95°c Qn) which will thermal paste will you recommend grizzly kryonaut,corsair tm30 or arctic mx4? And are thermal pastes conductive as in can it cause short circuit if we accidentally apply a bit to the pins nearby?
Thanks alot for this video! I have suffered with thermal throtteling on my new Rog Strix Scar 2 GL704GW, since i bought it. Followed your vid and metod to apply new Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut on my Cpu/Gpu. I was shocked when i took off the heatsink, cause the paste jobb from the factory was terrible! Before the repaste i got 90+ and thermal throtteling all the time and had to turn down all the settings and even then it was struggeling after a while, and the fans was going full speed. Been testing now with GTA 5 with optimal settings in Geforce Exp since i repasted and im on a stable 70 deegres on full load, so about 25 deegres down from pre paste. Thanks for the vid and guide im overjoyed and can finaly game on my gaming laptop again! Cheers keep up the good work! Spread metod works wonders!
Im considering to replace the thermal pads because of the "indecent" ones my laptop (lenovo y740) has according to forums. Which thickness of pads should I go? Cant seem to find the simple one and for all answer by googling. Also, great. GREAT video thanks a lot
hello sir hotel hero, about the 2019 helios 300, the pink paste was that thermal paste right? must i replace it with thermal paste or thermal pads? thank you
Hey, i really need the answer of this question, do you need to buy 2 paste for 1 laptop? (1 for gpu, 1 for cpu) or 1 paste is enough for both cpu and gpu on 1 laptop?
Hey man great video! Can you please suggest me what size of Thermal Pads i need to buy for the Helios 300 2019 model and what way i put the new TG paste on the part where the pink paste was? Thanks
incase you are @Red-Sand in acer community I have used your profile of undervolting and they were very helpful though i have some doubts if you could clear them....Thankyouverymuch your profile have reduced temperature from 95 degrees to 70 at max while intense gaming..though I have a question will this will reduce my CPU or GPU lifespan..as previously my CPU and GPU usage were 90-95 and 99 respectively Now temperature, as well as usage, have dropped massively...And also I always set the profile to the game battery while playing games as it helps me reduce the temperature even more even though i play while plugged in is it safe....Further important one previously my cpu used to reach 2800mhz to 3000mhz CLOCK SPEED now it stays are 1003 mhz or slightly up and down is that fine or should it be a concern... Reply soon and Thanks... my specs I7-7700HQ Nvdia1050Ti 4gb and 16gb ram
@@HotelHero okay Thanks so can I run profiles of ultra battery / game battery while gaming even though I am plugged in(by default while charging profile is set to performance)....2)Are you sure I don't have to worry about reduced clock speed dropped from 3000MHz to 1000MHz (in games like GTA 5 ) after using under volt profiles....and yeah thanks....again I just worry too much about this stuff as I have limited knowledge of all this.....and yeah thank you again your profiles are game changer if I hadn't found them my Acer nitro would have exploded...😂😂😂😂
after repasting my laptop cpu cs go reports its running hot at 92 degrees C i7-3630QM (3.4 GHZ) .Does that mean I did the repasting right? (pea drop method) Alienware M14xR2 GPU is only 70 degrees C though!
Thanks for the video. I have the 2019 Helios 300. I get max temps up to 88 on cpu and 70 on gpu while playing Apex Legends. That’s with Turbo button off and CoolBoost on. Balanced power setting. Are these temps ok? Should I repaste it? Any idea if the stock paste is not good enough on this laptop?
I also have the 2019 H300 and your temps are fine. When you reach 95 C your CPU will down clock (thermal throttle) which is what you want to avoid. I have premade Throttlestop configurations based on what CPU you have if your interested.
Hotel Hero thanks for the response. Sure how can I get the profiles? I have TS installed but haven’t changed anything on it yet though. What do the profiles do? Will the Turbo button work still? I see PredatorSense has its own built-in XTU Service which I assume is how the turbo button cranks up the PL1 and PL2 voltage. Will this still work with the TS profile? Right now how I’m keeping my temps low; I use 99% power profile in windows and use Extreme Overclocking profile in PredatorSense (just to avoid the loud max fans).
Hi, thanks for sharing with us your method, it's great! I do have a question: What thickness should the thermal pads be? I have an Acer Predator Ph 317-53. I can't find any info about the thermal pads on this one.. I wanted to go with 1mm but I'm not sure if it's too thick or too thin, thanks!
@@ahmedalsaegh4897 I ended up repasting without replacing the thermal pads because this is quite tricky if you don't know what you're doing. You see, some thermal pads are thicker than the others and some are slimmer and it varies from one to another, and if you don't use the right thickness you might end up worse than before (not always, but there's still a risk) - because there needs to be a certain pressure on the cpu&gpu die-. So, I repasted with Noctua NT-H2 and it dropped my temps for almost 20 Celsius on CPU and up to 10 Celsius on GPU, the stock thermal paste is terrible.
@@ahmedalsaegh4897 Kryonaut is one of the best (if not the best) thermal paste (non-metallic) out there. It's pretty expensive for the smaller tubes but the 11 gram tube has a really competitive price. I initially wanted to use that one too but I just couldn't find it anywhere. Disclaimer: it might dry faster compared to other thermal compounds but if you're using it on a laptop there's not gonna be a problem since you'll have to clean it out of dust at least once a year, therefore, a repaste/year.
@@Innermoist oh, so what if the pads are damaged? Is it necessary to change it? Because I had those pads on my laptop but the pads are like half broken, maybe because its very old, my laptop is 5 years old now
I’m on my 4th re-paste, having quite a time getting better than factory temps on both GPU and CPU. Its been a real pain in the ass. I don’t think the heat sink on the Asus GU502GV makes perfect contact with the die on both GPU and CPU. I made sure thermal pads were of the proper thickness but I’m not quite there... next method will be the X method. Do you have contact info?
Thank you for this video! I've actually changed paste may be like 5 or 6 times in different laptops but never changed the pads. But now I think I need to change them in my laptop. But I'm unsure about the thickness. I've the nitro 5 2018 which has the same exact body and heat sink as the helios 300 2018 and same specs too. Just the fins of the fans are plastic. What's the thickness of the pads you used in the helios 300? I think there are 2 different pads, one kind of yellowish and the other white. Are both of them the same thickness? And is a 100x100mm enough?
Hey brother, I'm actually in the middle of building my family a house.. and it's taking much of my free time doing it. My job involves traveling so I'm not home for weeks at a time, then when I return I work on my house. I'm sorry I haven't had time to upload anything but I will be returning probably before this year around the holidays. Cheers and thanks for asking!
If they stopped working they are either: 1. Not connected 2. Damaged from misuse 3. Your temps are sub 40 C in which case they don't turn on 4. Some other mechanical issue Would help if you also listed what model you have
@@HotelHero Really appreciate the response, been following your videos since I got my laptop. It's a acer predator helios 300 G3-572-72YF. I know it's not because my temps are too low and I'm pretty confident my fans are connected properly. Could you elaborate on damage from misuse or other possible mechanical issues? My laptop is old, almost 4 if I'm not mistaken. It has overheated a few times and I've had countless preformance issues within the past few months. The reason I took off the fans to begin with is because after formatting my computer, one of the fans maxed out at 4000rpm instead of 6000rpm. So I thought since the warrenty is gone I would go digging around and see what the issue is. I found out one of the fans isn't spinning properly, so I detached it and put some bearing oil in it and it seemed to spin just fine. But when I put everything back together and turned it on. The fans didn't work. During this process I also repasted the cpu and gpu.
Replaced the mobo in my alienware 15 r2 it is overheating, im pretty sure, ik i did good on thermal paste, do you guys thinks its time for new thermalpads? or is it an issue being a rev 02 board and the original was rev 001, they are the EXACT same chipset i am 100% sure idk what else it could be lol anybody else have this problem?
Depends on what the rev differences are. If you have even 0.5mm difference in mobo such as deck spacing from heat plates, then it'll overheat. I'd suggest new thermal pads but make sure they are the correct thickness.
@@HotelHero Replaced thermal pads battery and have new charger confirmed 100% right board for my heat sinks and got into windows long enough to download temperature monitoring software cpu and gpu were great! (30-40 C) and it never felt like it was getting too hot, talked to seller of board and they are just going to do an exchange for me i think it has something to do with the power delivery of the board but its just a hunch from what im seeing... didnt have time to trace it out
Ok so random question. I’ve already liquid metaled my laptop my laptop is a Acer Predator Helios 300 (2018 edition with a GTX 1060 and Intel Core i7-8750H 6-Core Processor) anyway it’s a lot cooler but I want to squeeeeeezeee more performance out of it with a heavy overclock but most places I look I can’t find a really heavy overclock so I was wondering if you could make a video showing us how to do that. Thanks
Hi bro I appreciate it your good work and helpfull video for everyone. On my predator g5 I consider replacing old thermal pads with thermal paste (thermal grizzly maybe). Would you recommend it or you think it will better to replace it with a new one thermal pads?
@@slavidimitrov2097 Since the manufacturer set thermal pads in the first place, replacing the pads with paste might remove the factory gap (the springs add the right amount of tension but don't set the spacing) so I'd recommend if you swap pads to just replace with the same size pad (looks like 1.5mm) to avoid any issues. You can grab Arctic thermal pads for increased conductivity and should be a decent upgrade.
@@HotelHero thank you for answer. I will chose some thermal pads. I know the best thermal conductivity has fujipoly thermal pads but I don't know from where can I get it.
i have a predator helios 3oo and suddenly after playing a game for 10mins my laptop reaches 99c and shuts down and normally it is at 70c without game ,i tried undervolting and its not working,can some one help please
Right on! I was watching instructions for my specific laptop, but the guy didn't really do it right and I just copied what he did.. just left the drop in the middle and that's it. So I will have to re-do it, but at least this time I know it will be done right! Great video
When you spread it you introduce air bubbles, you're supposed to put a blob in the middle or do an x on the die then when you apply pressure to it from the heatsink it will spread it. If it doesn't spread across the entire die there is not enough paste or not enough pressure from the heatsink. X method does actually solve the problem he is showing here. He mangled the x but that is the best way because its pushed out without introducing gaps of air in the paste. You get a good spread.
i usally just use the dot method for square dies and line method for rectangle shape dies. no matter which method you use just don't skimp on the paste.
We finally hear our lord Opokas voice. The clear glass was an incredible display of why to spread instead of just pressing it down.
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This is what people don't get, don't do pea/dot method on laptops because it's not a normal cpu/gpu. It's essentially a de-lided cpu/gpu meaning you absolutely need to cover every part of the metal with paste
This is absolutely the way to go, already opened my laptop once before to re-apply thermalpaste, made no difference.. Opened it up to repaste and clean it now (6 months from last repaste), and found it was not spread evenly. I now spread it out evenly myself on both the heatsink and cpu/gpu. Thermals went from 95 on cpu/91 on gpu (stresstest), to 80-85cpu/75-80gpu (stresstest). No more throttling and works like a charm! Used NT-H1 thermal paste. To anyone having issues with temps also look up undervolting your cpu. Great video!
Honestly, this is the best thermal paste method so far! Spreading the paste on a laptop chip gives me temps 20c lower, Thanks man!
Glad it helps brother
Which chip did you treat specifically? GPU? CPU?
@@Allplussomeminus a core i7 7th gen mobile chip
I took mine apart 4 times already. Going to try this method, thanks.
same lmao
Yeah, when i overtighten it last year from my first attempt in repasting, the result are a really worst temps.
But in my helios 300 (2017 15 inch) unit giving that more paste than rice grain result in a same worst temps, i get the best when i only do it like a little bit longer than rice grain, let it spread and when i open it next year (now) to repaste it again after i notice some thermal performance drop.
I see the paste spreading evenly (probably due to the black tape at the heatsink trapping the paste on the cpu & gpu die).
By the way, i only use 1mm thermal pads on all chips and it's working fine, but indeed there is some chips that need 0.5mm, probably cause of my thermal pads are elastic (thank god), otherwise i would crush the chip and brick the board.
I didn't recommend using all 1mm pad on the chip, but if you're using arctic thermal pad, maybe your chips would be safe since that one are elastic.
Overtighten and overpasting resulted in avg temps staying at 93-95 with max fan (game ark survival, high) for cpu while gpu at 85-90 all in celsius.
After using considerable amount of paste and not overtighten it i got 84 avg and 74 avg for gpu all in celsius.
That's funny cause i didn't even undervolt it, undervolt -0.125V giving me 75 avg cpu and 68 avg on gpu (120 core 300 memory OC) all in celsius, and that's damn decent for i7 7700hq + overclocked gtx 1060m (same game, ark survival at high setting).
Ah i forgot, and thanks for your recommendation about thermal pad and paste.
Your tutorials last year are really helping me out.
what do you mean by overtighten?
Damn my 7700hq only goes down to -0.115v
bro that was not a waste of thermal paste... you used it to make an excellent video. thank you
Hotel Hero, can too much core overclock applied on the GPU over +170MHz for GTX 1070 can damage the resistors of the mobo? Since this gpu is soldered to the mainbord. Because if yes, that's why my laptop keeps freezing and cold shutdown itself when using it. All of my temps were right, no overheating. Even if I use stock settings, on battery, it does the same problem.
I don't understand your question.
Your system freezes when you OC your GPU only?
@@HotelHero I said can TOO MUCH overclocking on the GPU core can damage the mobo/resistors/capacitors? Because my overclock was stable for 3 weeks and after 3 weeks of usage with these settings 170MHz+ core and +450MHz mem. The 5s freeze and cold shutdown stuff happened this Month first week. I tried everything, re-installing windows 10, swapping drivers of the gpu, using stock settings (no oc), even on sector or on battery... It still does the same problem, randomly freezes when I use my computer in action then shutdown itself. My battery is fine, there was no overheating. So can a higher oc damage the laptop?
I have tested several method and the spread is the best for me, it managed to keep my laptop at 45c during idle and 80c on full load
This video saved my laptop. Bought an MSI GE75 RTX2080 laptop for cheap. This thing was going up to 96 degrees while gaming. I opened it up for a repaste. I figured I can probably do it myself. Something just looked off when I took off the heatsink but I couldn't put my finger on it. Then I saw your video and realized what it was. Someone put thermal paste on the chips that are supposed to have thermal pads. I mean this stuff was everywhere. Cleaned everything off and applied new pads and thermal on CPU/GPU. Now it doesn't exceed 80 degrees under full load. Thnx a lot!
Good catch
@@HotelHero what happens if i have both pads and thermal paste on the chips, as thats how it is on my acer :o
That thing on the chips is different than the paste on the cpu/gpu. That paste is actually better than pads if they contact properly. So your problem was probably just the thermal paste on the cpu/gpu
I've just repasted my first laptop by using the spread method as shown in the video. The laptop was still on its factory thermal paste and I've had it for 8 years now. I was shocked when I saw The CPU temperature drop by 20*C! I was hitting 94*C under all-core load before and now it's 74*C. I'm so happy! The GPU temps dropped too from 62*C to 58*C (tested with Unigine Heaven benchmark).
The most helpful video about the CPU thermal past..... Thanks a lot Bro
What size thermal pads should i use on my nitro 5? 1.5mm or 1mm? Similar layout to the helios 300.
Probably the best related vid. All the major points covered. Thank you.
Many thanks for the video, I've re-placed a 45W with a 55W TDU laptop CPU and still managed decent temps without thermal throttling.
Your video came in handy.
This totally works!! So much thanks, i have tried so many application methods for my laptop but none made any difference.
Spot on.
Just a line or a centre blob is NOT enough. We do have to have a thin layer, just like Thermal Grizzly recommends.
Temps will effectively go down AND IT ALSO MINIMISES THE PUMP OUT effect.
Great, great video. 👍
I recommend to try phase-change material Honeywell PTM7950. It comes as a sheet and you don't have to mess around with any applying dots, dashes or crosses. Just cut out a piece the size of the IHS/core and stick it on. Also don't have to worry about whether the paste is too little or too much - it will be just right. In addition, it lasts longer, performs works better than traditional pastes and there is no pump-out effect.
I've just repasted my laptop, and now GPU is not showing all the time in AIDA64. Sometimes i see it sometimes no. Whats the problem?
I think it was a thin layer
Best video and explains everything i was looking for hours
Glad it helped 😊
Hello. I accidently damaged the black square ped on copper heatsink (seen on 12:55) with acetone while I was trying to renew the thermal paste on my laptops cpu. And I had to remove it completely. After the process, my laptops cpu works with 60 C- 70 C while I watch netflix, but the chasis is burning like crazy, even my SSD harddisk reaches 52 C, the keyboard burns!. So, do anyone know that happened because of the square ped I removed? Shall I cut a new thermal pad and stick there in same shape? Is that works? Or I did apply the paste in wrong way. I do not know what to do, can anyone help me please?
Clear, correct, straight forward, excellent and "scientific" explanations
Help me please...i simply dont know what to do..i ve bought MSI GL76 and while i play games, my CPU gets 90-97 C with turbo cooling boost...can someone tell is that ok or not - internet have so few info about this laptop, half people\manuals say that this is ok and the other half says that this is catastrofic(after 0,5-1 yeah i will have peace of junk)...i think i am going crazy(this is my first laptop)...
If your laptop isn't shutting down all by itself to protect itself from temperatures then there's nothing wrong.
Only issue is at 92-95 C for most laptops the CPU will thermal throttle (slow down) to lower temps which can reduce gaming performance. It's not damaging just not good for framerates.
hey bro my thermal pads on side chips were degraded so the technician pasted new ones but it didnt help with temps and made it worse probably cause it was thick. so can i apply non conductive thermal paste instead of thermal pads as i dont have correct measurement of it?
so with the pins, does it matter much if theres paste on them aslong as its non conductive?
i think this is the best option to apply the thermal paste, thin spread both over the die and the heatsink.
2:18 when applying liquid metal it would be best practise to apply a conformal coating to the resistors and capacitors surrounding the cpu and gpu. One coating I like is "MG Chemicals 422C Silicone Conformal Coating". If you live on the coast like I do, you could coat your entire board (excluding cpu/gpu dies, slots and connectors of course) in this stuff to prevent corrosion and short circuits from humidity.
Conformal coating is also another method. I suggested nail polish because it's cheap and comes with an applicator pretty much built in. Conformal coating typically is in a spray can so if you desire to only coat around the die, it would be a bit messy.
Also suggesting to coat the entire mobo I wouldn't recommend, as it can cause plugs/latches for ribbon cables etc to become stuck and if a component needs replacing it would make it difficult.
@@HotelHero 422C usually comes in bottles and is applied with a brush. You can still easily repair the board as you can solder straight through 422C. If need be, you can remove it with a conformal coating stripper. I did also mention in my original post to not coat/let it get on connectors, slots, etc.
Finally get to hear his voice guiding us as he goes along with it. Magnificent. Thanks for all the tips and tricks my dude.
Hello can u tell me what thickness did thermal pad u used on the video. i was thinking is it better when i use thermal paste on the cpu, gpu and use thermal pad on vram like the surrounding area of gpu and cpu ( i dont know what is that called ) & using the . or should i just use my thermal pad on gpu cpu and like the surrounding area of gpu and cpu. Thank u!
Today I learned that I’ve been pasting my laptop all wrong. 😂Thanks so much for the video!
Glad it helped
aight imma try this now
update: Ive tried pea sized and line method in the past. They kinda worked fine but after gaming for an hour, my lappy (Acer nitro 5 ryzen 3550h/gtx1650) started to thermal throttle(95-100°C). i thought my laptop's a goner. but then i tried this spread method and damn its working! played gta v for first 40 mins in max and am getting stable 90-92°C without any thermal throttle (ik its still pretty high but Atleast its still better than experiencing thermal throttle every 2 minutes). I tried AC valhalla as well played for 40 mins and got stable 90-93°C on it throughout without any issue. the temperatures are probably high because of the environment where i live in xddd which is about 40°C
This is a very informative video.
Just when i taught i was ready to open my laptop and repaste.
Thank you very much for this tutorial, barring what is stated in this video, are there things one should avoid when repasting?
Give yourself extra time if you've not done something like this before. When the paste heats up for the first time it may show good temps but as it softens it may settle and not perform as good as it initially did. You may have to reopen and add a bit or adjust your thermal pad spacing to get temps to remain good.
@@HotelHero Utilized 1 gram of Kryonaut whilst performing the repaste today. We will see how things shake out. Thank you for the supreme advice and the vid.
Hello Hotel Hero, im lost i got a Helios 300 317-52 and i tried all nothing helps. I Undervolt GPU and CPU i repaste 4 times i did everything and my Laptop is during gaming nonstop on 95° at the GPU and CPU i dont know what to do anymore. It Throttles so hard that i got the first few minutes 100 fps after 5mins drops too 60 and then downspikes to 20-30. Dont know any further i tried everything suggested
If your GPU is surpassing 75-78 C then you pasted improperly or tightened it down incorrectly
What is the problem with squishing the thermal pads? The thinner the pad the better the heat conductivity and if you get metal to metal on the cpu and gpu thats a good thing as well... So why not tighten it well?
Because if you squish beyond the OEM thickness you'll have metal to metal contact between die and heat plate = overheating and squishes paste out from plate
@@HotelHero OK i think you got something wrong there, metal to metal contact is not a problem in fact its desirable, the heatpaste is only there to fill the microscopic or bigger gaps where there is no metal to metal contact but its not supposed to get in the way of metal to metal contact - at least as far as i understand it
@@HotelHero Metal is far better at conducting heat than any thermal paste is, copper has a thermal conductivity of 384 W/mK, while a good thermal paste with metal or graphite particles in it has only about 10W/mK - air though only has a conductivity of 0.026W/mK.
So the idea of the thermal paste is to replace the air that would be between the die and the heatsink, due to their roughness and uneveness, because the paste is about 300x better at conducting heat than air.
However the metal is still 30x better yet than the thermal paste is.
Metal to metal contact is therefor ideal.
Also the heat flow through a barrier is inversly proportional to the thickness of that barrier - the thicker the insulation or wall the slower the heat will flow through it, because the temperture gradient across the material will be more shallow - we know this from every day life.
That means that you want the least amount of thermal paste seperating the two metal surfaces. If the heat has to flow through 2x the amount/thickness of thermal paste then only half the watts are going to flow through it (if the temperature difference would stay the same between die and heatsink, in reality the die will heat up and the temperature gradient will increase again and the same watts are going to flow again just with a slightly hotter die) - thats why you dont want any seperation of the metal surfaces.
So there you go - the thermal paste is only there to replace the air that would otherwise be inside the microscopic scratches and roughness of the metal surfaces but NOT to get inbetween the metal surfaces where there would otherwise have been metal to metal contact, and you certainly dont want a thicker layer of insulation between the metals made out of thermal paste, which sucks at conducting heat, relative to the metal.
Please tell me if you disagree or not...
I just repasted my Helios 300 2019 using spread method with Arctic MX-4, and after booting up my discrete GPU can't be detected. After refreshing device manager my GPU appeared. I tried using applications which uses my GPU, looking at Predator Sense the core% is at (-1%) while my temp. is increasing to upwards 90+C until I get BSOD. I tried reinstalling and updating the Nvidia drivers but still the same results. Any help?
Update: I opened my Helios again and observed that the paste from the GPU seems have no contact with the heatsink. So I cleaned, and repasted it again with spread method but more thicker than before (which I just covered with just enough to cover the GPU). Viola, it works with amazing temps.
@@ThatOmadGuy Strange, did you replace the thermal pads? Sometimes even 0.5mm can mean the difference between contact and no contact. Glad it worked out though
@@HotelHero Yup I replaced the stock pink thermal paste on the VRMs with 1.5mm pads and 1mm for the rest. Idk as well, but happy it worked at the end
Hey boss, I just applied mx4 and my temps actually went up, but I think i know why. U see these heatpads (not the paste on the processor/gpu, i mean the pads on the heatsink). I fucked up and removed some of them, and i am not certain of the measurements. Right now I limited my cpu to 99% max power because my temps have been hitting 100. I wanna replace all the pads and redo this right, any advice? Are the correct thermal pad measurements super essential, and where should I be putting them? (thank fully I took pics of the heatsink when I first opened it so I do have the old factory default outline)
This is a lenovo legion C7 btw
I don't own a Legion but atypical thickness for thermal pads is 1.5mm. I'd definitely not use the system until you get those pads replaced because those chips/VRMs can fry.
I did a repaste to my old laptop's GPU, somehow after that, the GPU stopped working, I first I thought it was a driver malfunction, but it didn't respond. It was being recognized by Windows, but there was a warning sign on the device manager
There are many different things that could have happened
Hey, i heard someone explain that the pins found around the gpu is something you shouldn't be touching, why is that?
Because u will pass some leftover charge through the pins and can brick ur device
Dude, did you try installing 2019 version Predator Sense on older version of laptops ?
If yes. then make a video pls !
would be much appreciated !
I have and I will
How would you determine what size of thermal pads your laptop needs. This my conflict before opening my laptop and replacing the thermal pads and thermal paste.
There is a black tape or something like that around my CPU like it was on yours. It was sent to me like that when I bought it. Do I remove it?
Hi, may hp pavilion dv6 laptop has the plastic on both cpu and gpu should i remove it after repasting thermal paste or should i put i back? Thanks
Which are the correct thermal pad thickness for the helios 300? i need that info please.
It's a combination of 1.0 and 1.5 mm pads
@@HotelHero I don't know of other model is like you say, but for the G3-571, which is mine, i tried 1.5 with 1.0 and didn't work
I learned it the hard way that is only 1.0 mm sadly
Thx for the tips about applying paste. I have a G9-793 from 2016 I want to repaste, since it's out of warranty, and very very hot while gaming, but can't find any info about the thermal pads. I saw in this video the cooler for predator 15 which is similar, and wanted to ask about the thickness of the pads. Is 1.5mm ok ? are all the pads the same thickness ? and how much do I need ? 100x100 or I can get away with 2pcs of 120x20mm? thx in advance if you have the time to answer these questions !
If you go 1.5mm you may have to re-tighten the heat plates once the pads get warm/soft. That way if the pad is slightly too think it will confirm to the chips and reach proper clearance/spacing.
I have a question what is the plastic things next to your thermal paste on your heat sink? What are they called ?
So you don'y need the plastic tape stuff at all over the pins? I re-pasted my FX505DV yesterday and it made no difference, but I left the little tapes on my CPU and GPU. there's no paste underneath them, but I wonder if it would be better without them. My GPU maxes out at 86 degrees when playing Modern Warfare 2019 and my CPU is always around 89-91 degrees when playing any games.
I've never changed the paste on my laptop and it worked great for at least 15 years, not sure if it's too late to do it now, it is not working at the moment, it's rebooting itself. Getting a new PC anyway, but I want to fix it if it is still fixable...
Does the ph315-52 use thermal pads for the other chips or thermal paste? If it’s thermal paste would it be safe to use kryonaut on them?
If it's possible could you do this aswell with a medion erazer P6689, because there is like no information on this laptop on how to open/apply thermal paste.
Thanks for the infos, i did it last time with my gpu using a cheap white thermal paste, after starting my pc it burned i saw fire 🔥 and smoke coming from it, didn't know what was the problem ?
You already answered you're own question... "cheap thermal paste" 😅
I love the video. Can you make a video all about replacing thermal pads on a laptop? Like where to put them and how to find the right size? And maybe some reccomended brands.
Can I use an M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD for Acer Predator Helios 300 PH315-51-51V7 having i5-8300H CPU ? kindly help
Yes, but you won't get PCIE speeds. It will be faster than a regular M.2 though
I have a laptop i bought 3 years ago and it started to reach high temp these days. I had a stress test on XTU and CPU gets 98-99 and GPU gets 90 degrees during the test. I am not an expert but it is hot as far as i know. I am thinking about using new thermal paste by doing things you recommend (which i appreciate a lot) I have a few questions though. 1) Should i try to clean GPU chips? If so, how? 2) Should i use that piece of glass to spread all over CPU and GPU? 3) Is it possible to use the same thermal paste on GPU and CPU? I hope you reply back, THANKS!
Not sure what you mean by cleaning GPU "chips". Do you mean the VRAM?
@@HotelHero Yeah, i do. I have a pure alcohol. Is it possible to use on chips (VRAM) And i repasted both GPU and CPU but this time CPU reaches over 90 time to time. It goes around over 90 and 80's time to time.. Is it related with pasting problem?
Tha is bro that's what I've been having problems with I repasted and then I tried to tighten the screws as hard as i could and my temps are about the same if not worse . I have Dell xps 15 9570 of u have any advice it's most certainly welcome and I'm here to learn . I wanted it to stop throttling . I used thermaltake tg7 thermal paste from best buy .
Depending on the screw config (spring set or not) that could certainly cause issues. Like I discussed in the video most systems thermal pads provide the spacing required for proper paste application.
Also I recommend giving MX4 a try. It's really good paste and last super long, the 2019 release has a advertised lifespan of 8 years.
@@HotelHero isnt thermal grizzly kryonaut better in tempertures?
The only thing about the spread method I worry about is trapping large amounts of air bubbles that get folded in as you spread it around.
That has been debunked by der8auer and others. As they say, it's BS.
Agreed, this has been debunked not only by others, but by myself the last 50 times I've repasted 😅
can i use
absolute alcohol ( 99,5%) instead the propyl alcohol? canot find in my town
Hey, my friend. Your videos were of great help to me. Thank you so much for sharing these true tutorials.
This was hella informative. Thanks bud. Great vid for a beginner like me.
Your channel is a gold mine for Predator 300 owners. Thank you
This got your temps down? I repasted a few weeks ago, but used the standard blob in the middle like I've done on plenty of desktop chips. My temps are better, but nothing like they ought to be. Been thinking about repasting again using this spreader technique.
Having acer Helios 300 i5 8th gen 1060 with temps reaching 95°c
Qn) which will thermal paste will you recommend grizzly kryonaut,corsair tm30 or arctic mx4?
And are thermal pastes conductive as in can it cause short circuit if we accidentally apply a bit to the pins nearby?
can you post a video how to overclock gtx1060 6gb on the helio 300 ?
Did a while ago
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Thanks alot for this video! I have suffered with thermal throtteling on my new Rog Strix Scar 2 GL704GW, since i bought it. Followed your vid and metod to apply new Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut on my Cpu/Gpu. I was shocked when i took off the heatsink, cause the paste jobb from the factory was terrible! Before the repaste i got 90+ and thermal throtteling all the time and had to turn down all the settings and even then it was struggeling after a while, and the fans was going full speed. Been testing now with GTA 5 with optimal settings in Geforce Exp since i repasted and im on a stable 70 deegres on full load, so about 25 deegres down from pre paste. Thanks for the vid and guide im overjoyed and can finaly game on my gaming laptop again! Cheers keep up the good work!
Spread metod works wonders!
Awesome dude!
Now go forth and destroy plebs! 😁
is it normal if the battery ribbon sparked when connecting it back
It's not "good".. but can happen.
Try to plug in evenly and swiftly.
Hotel Hero doesn’t mean a component is broken right? thank u
Im considering to replace the thermal pads because of the "indecent" ones my laptop (lenovo y740) has according to forums. Which thickness of pads should I go? Cant seem to find the simple one and for all answer by googling.
Also, great. GREAT video thanks a lot
hello sir hotel hero, about the 2019 helios 300, the pink paste was that thermal paste right? must i replace it with thermal paste or thermal pads? thank you
@@LeeLHPlays no it was vrm
How do i clean old paste and how to know thickness of thermal pads
Hey, i really need the answer of this question, do you need to buy 2 paste for 1 laptop? (1 for gpu, 1 for cpu) or 1 paste is enough for both cpu and gpu on 1 laptop?
One paste is enough to repaste both CPU and GPU three times.
One paste is more than enough man
Thanks for showing us. Is it okay if I spread thin layer of thermal paste on cpu and gpu and not on the heatsink itself ?
Good information about thermal pads man! Very helpful! 🤞
You have pink and blue pads whats the diference ? Also i have some pink ones too can i replace them with blue ones ? my GPU now goes to 90% in 3min :/
Hey man great video!
Can you please suggest me what size of Thermal Pads i need to buy for the Helios 300 2019 model and what way i put the new TG paste on the part where the pink paste was? Thanks
Same for me, but 2020 model instead
@@helios2664 i know old comment but cant you just buy any size and then just cut it
incase you are @Red-Sand in acer community I have used your profile of undervolting and they were very helpful though i have some doubts if you could clear them....Thankyouverymuch your profile have reduced temperature from 95 degrees to 70 at max while intense gaming..though I have a question will this will reduce my CPU or GPU lifespan..as previously my CPU and GPU usage were 90-95 and 99 respectively Now temperature, as well as usage, have dropped massively...And also I always set the profile to the game battery while playing games as it helps me reduce the temperature even more even though i play while plugged in is it safe....Further important one previously my cpu used to reach 2800mhz to 3000mhz CLOCK SPEED now it stays are 1003 mhz or slightly up and down is that fine or should it be a concern... Reply soon and Thanks...
my specs I7-7700HQ
Nvdia1050Ti 4gb and 16gb ram
I am Red-Sand.
My profiles extend the life of all components in your system. 👌
@@HotelHero okay Thanks so can I run profiles of ultra battery / game battery while gaming even though I am plugged in(by default while charging profile is set to performance)....2)Are you sure I don't have to worry about reduced clock speed dropped from 3000MHz to 1000MHz (in games like GTA 5 ) after using under volt profiles....and yeah thanks....again I just worry too much about this stuff as I have limited knowledge of all this.....and yeah thank you again your profiles are game changer if I hadn't found them my Acer nitro would have exploded...😂😂😂😂
after repasting my laptop cpu cs go reports its running hot at 92 degrees C i7-3630QM (3.4 GHZ) .Does that mean I did the repasting right? (pea drop method) Alienware M14xR2 GPU is only 70 degrees C though!
Thanks for the video. I have the 2019 Helios 300. I get max temps up to 88 on cpu and 70 on gpu while playing Apex Legends. That’s with Turbo button off and CoolBoost on. Balanced power setting. Are these temps ok? Should I repaste it? Any idea if the stock paste is not good enough on this laptop?
I also have the 2019 H300 and your temps are fine. When you reach 95 C your CPU will down clock (thermal throttle) which is what you want to avoid.
I have premade Throttlestop configurations based on what CPU you have if your interested.
Hotel Hero thanks for the response.
Sure how can I get the profiles? I have TS installed but haven’t changed anything on it yet though. What do the profiles do? Will the Turbo button work still? I see PredatorSense has its own built-in XTU Service which I assume is how the turbo button cranks up the PL1 and PL2 voltage. Will this still work with the TS profile?
Right now how I’m keeping my temps low; I use 99% power profile in windows and use Extreme Overclocking profile in PredatorSense (just to avoid the loud max fans).
Hotel Hero on another note, do you use the LCD overdrive feature? Can it have any negative effect on the screen long term?
Hi, thanks for sharing with us your method, it's great! I do have a question: What thickness should the thermal pads be? I have an Acer Predator Ph 317-53. I can't find any info about the thermal pads on this one.. I wanted to go with 1mm but I'm not sure if it's too thick or too thin, thanks!
same as you
which one then you went with ?
@@ahmedalsaegh4897 I ended up repasting without replacing the thermal pads because this is quite tricky if you don't know what you're doing. You see, some thermal pads are thicker than the others and some are slimmer and it varies from one to another, and if you don't use the right thickness you might end up worse than before (not always, but there's still a risk) - because there needs to be a certain pressure on the cpu&gpu die-. So, I repasted with Noctua NT-H2 and it dropped my temps for almost 20 Celsius on CPU and up to 10 Celsius on GPU, the stock thermal paste is terrible.
very good results
thanks for sharing
I think I will do the same
but using the thermal grizzly kryonaut paste
what is your thought about it ?
@@ahmedalsaegh4897 Kryonaut is one of the best (if not the best) thermal paste (non-metallic) out there. It's pretty expensive for the smaller tubes but the 11 gram tube has a really competitive price. I initially wanted to use that one too but I just couldn't find it anywhere.
Disclaimer: it might dry faster compared to other thermal compounds but if you're using it on a laptop there's not gonna be a problem since you'll have to clean it out of dust at least once a year, therefore, a repaste/year.
how much did you put paste on the die and tightened the screws of the heat sink ?is it as hotel hero said ?
Whats that white foamy squares in 6:38 im kinda curious if thats important or whats the purpose of it?
Thermal pads, if you look they are over other chips on the board they help draw the heat from them.
@@Innermoist oh, so what if the pads are damaged? Is it necessary to change it? Because I had those pads on my laptop but the pads are like half broken, maybe because its very old, my laptop is 5 years old now
@@pointdss I've seen people re-use them but me personally I'll replace it if your putting new paste on you might aswell do the pads.
I have problem appying thermal paste, i have hp omem 2019 and always thermal problem
I’m on my 4th re-paste, having quite a time getting better than factory temps on both GPU and CPU. Its been a real pain in the ass. I don’t think the heat sink on the Asus GU502GV makes perfect contact with the die on both GPU and CPU. I made sure thermal pads were of the proper thickness but I’m not quite there... next method will be the X method. Do you have contact info?
Thank you for this video! I've actually changed paste may be like 5 or 6 times in different laptops but never changed the pads. But now I think I need to change them in my laptop. But I'm unsure about the thickness.
I've the nitro 5 2018 which has the same exact body and heat sink as the helios 300 2018 and same specs too. Just the fins of the fans are plastic.
What's the thickness of the pads you used in the helios 300? I think there are 2 different pads, one kind of yellowish and the other white. Are both of them the same thickness? And is a 100x100mm enough?
I'm pretty much sure it depends on how we use the notebook, but how often I need to repaste?
Hi bro! Why you are not uploading videos again?
Hey brother, I'm actually in the middle of building my family a house.. and it's taking much of my free time doing it.
My job involves traveling so I'm not home for weeks at a time, then when I return I work on my house. I'm sorry I haven't had time to upload anything but I will be returning probably before this year around the holidays.
Cheers and thanks for asking!
Used arctic mx6 on mine
Never checked the before and after temps but i feel it made an improvement
@@smileybear420 Arctic is the best brand imo. Just keep an eye on thermal limits as some will dry out sooner than others.
Glad it got better 💪
Hey man i think i over applied it , just a bit though , what's your thoughts?
Would be difficult to add so much that the volume would be problematic. If you added just a bit more then it's fine
@@HotelHero thanks, actually it's working fine , temperature are down significantly.
I took my laptop twice already, and its temps is higher than before. Definitely will try this 😂
Hotel Hero, You sir, are a knight in shining armor! I use your throttle stop config as well. Thanks a lot. :D
okay, so my fans stopped working after this video, and I've doubled checked twice that they are connected properly. Any suggestions?
If they stopped working they are either:
1. Not connected
2. Damaged from misuse
3. Your temps are sub 40 C in which case they don't turn on
4. Some other mechanical issue
Would help if you also listed what model you have
@@HotelHero Really appreciate the response, been following your videos since I got my laptop. It's a acer predator helios 300 G3-572-72YF. I know it's not because my temps are too low and I'm pretty confident my fans are connected properly. Could you elaborate on damage from misuse or other possible mechanical issues? My laptop is old, almost 4 if I'm not mistaken. It has overheated a few times and I've had countless preformance issues within the past few months. The reason I took off the fans to begin with is because after formatting my computer, one of the fans maxed out at 4000rpm instead of 6000rpm. So I thought since the warrenty is gone I would go digging around and see what the issue is. I found out one of the fans isn't spinning properly, so I detached it and put some bearing oil in it and it seemed to spin just fine. But when I put everything back together and turned it on. The fans didn't work. During this process I also repasted the cpu and gpu.
Replaced the mobo in my alienware 15 r2 it is overheating, im pretty sure, ik i did good on thermal paste, do you guys thinks its time for new thermalpads? or is it an issue being a rev 02 board and the original was rev 001, they are the EXACT same chipset i am 100% sure idk what else it could be lol anybody else have this problem?
Depends on what the rev differences are.
If you have even 0.5mm difference in mobo such as deck spacing from heat plates, then it'll overheat.
I'd suggest new thermal pads but make sure they are the correct thickness.
@@HotelHero Replaced thermal pads battery and have new charger confirmed 100% right board for my heat sinks and got into windows long enough to download temperature monitoring software cpu and gpu were great! (30-40 C) and it never felt like it was getting too hot, talked to seller of board and they are just going to do an exchange for me i think it has something to do with the power delivery of the board but its just a hunch from what im seeing... didnt have time to trace it out
Ok so random question. I’ve already liquid metaled my laptop my laptop is a Acer Predator Helios 300 (2018 edition with a GTX 1060 and Intel Core i7-8750H 6-Core Processor) anyway it’s a lot cooler but I want to squeeeeeezeee more performance out of it with a heavy overclock but most places I look I can’t find a really heavy overclock so I was wondering if you could make a video showing us how to do that. Thanks
That sounds like an interesting video 🤔
I like it
Bro so glad to hear your voice . As always great video 😍
thanks for a good video, just repasting my rig for the first time and this really helped
Hi bro I appreciate it your good work and helpfull video for everyone. On my predator g5 I consider replacing old thermal pads with thermal paste (thermal grizzly maybe). Would you recommend it or you think it will better to replace it with a new one thermal pads?
Also can you tell me the thickness of thermal pads on that model? 1 or 1.5mm thank you!
@@slavidimitrov2097 Since the manufacturer set thermal pads in the first place, replacing the pads with paste might remove the factory gap (the springs add the right amount of tension but don't set the spacing) so I'd recommend if you swap pads to just replace with the same size pad (looks like 1.5mm) to avoid any issues. You can grab Arctic thermal pads for increased conductivity and should be a decent upgrade.
@@HotelHero thank you for answer. I will chose some thermal pads. I know the best thermal conductivity has fujipoly thermal pads but I don't know from where can I get it.
when I placed it i let it fall at an angle, think that's the reason I'm not impressed with thermals
Can you please provide a link to the thermal paste thanks
Added links to description.
Thanks
thanks for adding the links which one should i get tho i am confused
@@ramezalaa Grizzly is the best one in my opinion.
i have a predator helios 3oo and suddenly after playing a game for 10mins my laptop reaches 99c and shuts down and normally it is at 70c without game ,i tried undervolting and its not working,can some one help please
I bet you need to repaste and change the thermal pads, and clean the metal fan vents
Of course every laptop shuts down when it reaches 100c or closer, the manufacturer designed that way
Life saviour video ❤️
Right on! I was watching instructions for my specific laptop, but the guy didn't really do it right and I just copied what he did.. just left the drop in the middle and that's it. So I will have to re-do it, but at least this time I know it will be done right! Great video
When you spread it you introduce air bubbles, you're supposed to put a blob in the middle or do an x on the die then when you apply pressure to it from the heatsink it will spread it. If it doesn't spread across the entire die there is not enough paste or not enough pressure from the heatsink.
X method does actually solve the problem he is showing here. He mangled the x but that is the best way because its pushed out without introducing gaps of air in the paste. You get a good spread.
@@donniedarko7751That has been debunked numerous times, you don't create any air bubbles spreading it, it's bullshit
Can we use Paste instead of pads?
No
Thanks man. This was a great informative video.
i usally just use the dot method for square dies and line method for rectangle shape dies. no matter which method you use just don't skimp on the paste.