Chon - What Happened?
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- Опубликовано: 4 авг 2024
- I really love this band. Like many fans, I've been wondering for quite a while what exactly has been going on with CHON? I did my research and think I've figured it out. #chon #progressiverock #guitarmusic
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When you realize the last three songs on their self titled album are, “Dead End” “Thanks” “Peace”. We should have known what was coming.
Congratulations. You’ve blown my mind. That’s a good point.
there's a kind of beautiful sadness to that album
Yeah, i'm surprised very few people talk about it. I've realised that a long time ago and was wondering could that possibly be just a coincidence? Seems unlikely that that's the case, more so now :(
Chon will forever be in my select record collection with often spinnage.
Holy shit ;_;
I miss Chon… Some of the most amazing music that’s ever touched my ears. Hope to hear a new project from them soon!!
@@jamierainwater4350well that’s just a complete lie
@@altezzaboi9845sorry multiple artists used the same name
With a band who came up with them, Polyphia becoming as successful recently with their signature "Trap Prog" sound it does really makes you wonder where Chon would be today considering they were just as big before they left the music scene.
Feel very lucky to have gotten to see them both perform at the same concert during super Chon bros tour i think it was called
polyphia is basically CHON played thru a crappy electronic pop filter lol
@@jangobango2847 polyphia just realized the brilliance of CHON and watered it down into a mainstream friendly package.
@@musek5048 I second this, except imo Polyphia’s progression was slightly different than Chon’s. They both were both known as Prog Rock/Metal bands at first but the paths they took following their initial releases were so different from one another. Chon was a straight up like Prog Metal Group on ‘Newborn Sun’ and Polyphia had more of a Metal Core/Neo Classical/Virtuoso sound on ‘Impassion’. Past those two albums they changed significantly, Chon leaned more into being less heavy and more jazzy taking more from core math rock bands and mixing it with their sound, whereas Polyphia looked for ways to fuse their virtuosic playing with Pop/Hook based music which eventually led them to maxing out on the sound achieved on ‘New Levels, New Devils’ This “ProgTrap” thing.
polyphia aimed to be more accessible and succeeded. chon was always more quirky, but also more soulful imo. polyphia almost sounds like bad radio music at times.
I'm glad they're paying attention to their health. Whenever new music comes out, as a band or not, I'll be there.
Same here!
As a fan, I miss CHON - but as a musician, I can't help but support them taking the time they need - even if it means CHON as a band goes the way of the vapor! Uninspired music is a disservice to the band and the fans: if and when the heart of CHON returns, we will see some amazing music from the guys again, and if the heart doesn't return, no one benefits from what would be merely forced music.
Dude 2008 Demo is the fkn greatest. I got into Chon with Newborn Sun, particularly Bubble Dream. Highly recommend a thorough listen
The demo and newborn sun are amazing . There’s really nothing that sounds like that with that high of quality out there. Inspired me so much, I have basically tried to recreate the glory of newborn sun with my own songs, although I’ll never be that good
Man!! Crazy how they created a new style and everybody ran with it. Haven't heard an original sound like chon until years after they dropped 🔥
According to spotify, chon released a new song in 2023. But it is a rap song in spanish with a guitar loop playing 😂
Waterslide is one of the best instrumental songs that transcends different genres ever written by anyone
Can't agree more
It is amazing
I love how in the solo hansel purposely stumbles for like two verses like he doesn’t know how to play guitar just to troll the listener. and then just hits you with this shred of glory that’s on a face melting level! That song is in my top five of theirs!
Erik just now has realized a story on instagram explaining that chon broke up before the pandemics because they got tired
Chon is so great. Their music is truly inspiring and even if they all decide to never release anything again I am grateful for the amazing music they have already put out there.
2008 demo was crazy good, but the self titled is my favorite work. Thanks for this video that summarizes their work very well. If they don’t come back, I’m ok with Grow, Homey, and Chon as their body of work for the long run. “Visit” and “Dead End” being particularly special. Again, thank you, and thanks to Chon!
I agree with you. Their self titled album is my favorite work of theirs. It's just pure happiness on every track!
Really blessed these young guys are on the break! My son and I started seeing them on their first ever tour (If you want to call it a tour). I met the parents at the small show (Mario and brothers). Nice family. As a So Cal kid playing so much guitar myself, it was a joy to finally put it down for a bit. Constant playing and competitions were tiering for me. I bet they too got so busy with playing and playing they missed on on so many other things in life as young men. The constant music culture not for everyone. I respect my friends that have done it their entire lives! It's quite a life! Different for sure. Talking to Mario over the early years of Chon coming out to my area, I always thought they were just wonderful young men and they wouldn't always be doing the Chon thing. Mucho talent, and with that talent comes a variety of musical opportunities. I am thankful for the wonderful memories of seeing Chon in small rooms in very meek environments with very few people. They are the music makers! Thanks Chon for the beautiful tunes! Beau in AZ! The older guy who was at the shows! haha
That’s amazing that you got to see them from the start.
Hey, the way I see it, once you tour the world and get your own signature guitar from one of the biggest guitar brands in the world, you can say you’ve had a good run.
Chon has revolutionized the way I play guitar. I don't think there's anyone who quite sounds like them. Polyphia come close, but they don't give me the same emotional payoff
Glad to see more support for them, hope they come back. They've put out plenty of music to leave behind a great legacy, but obviously we want more and they'll probably want to make more after a while.
2008 demo is the 🐐
i quite genuinely miss these guys, some of my favorite memories include their music. hope they return in some form soon
Never forget when NBC used their music during their 2018 Winter Olympics coverage
I saw these guys during the last tour and they looked pretty whipped ... and the tour was just getting started. Having made some restarts and go-backs in my life I get it. The music industry can be a pair of golden handcuffs at times, hope they are finding something to enjoy off a stage. Thanks for the great music and memories!
I love newborn sun it's so heavy and melodic its perfect.
Yo thank you so much for making this video. I have been wondering these questions myself.
thank you for this💛I'd been wondering, got subscribbled
I love and miss CHON so much. I moshed at the their shows in Madison Wisconsin and Chicago House of Blues and it will always be some of the best moments of my life. CHON moshers go hard but also are so nice, when you fall there are 3 to 4 people there to help you up. Such free spirited intense rockin good vibes. Hopefully one day their passion for live shows is reignited.
Mario Just Updated his youtube Favs Playlist 7 days ago so at least he’s still active
Thank you man! This is what i needed "something"
I was lucky enough to find Chon as soon as they put out their ep. Always one pf my favorite bands.
Great vid man. I’m about to sound like that guy, but I remember feeling so lucky when my friend showed me Chon in high school, Grow hadn’t even come out yet. Imagine the sheer euphoria I felt coming home from school one day to see that they had finally released that beautiful album. I use less Chon influence stylistically than any other band I listen to, but they taught me an important lesson about pushing my limits as a musician insofar as what I perceive to be possible for me to play. Big feels
Thank you for digging, it's a pity that they went hiatus, but who knows, maybe we can still see them in the future someday
Yeah! I’m really hoping they come back but only when they’re ready.
Glad the algorithm brought me to this video, great stuff man!
Thanks Jordan!
Realizing its been that long since their last album makes me feel like younger me is drifting away 💔 its literally impossible to put into words how much of an effect this band and their music had on my life and personality. I skipped out on my prom date to go to one of their shows completely alone before Grow even came out and I was able to meet mario after. They got me through some of the hardest shit i’ve ever faced in my life and I just hope they can get though their own problems. I miss you Chon!
Sleepy tea at 1:14 is probably the most juicy riff I've ever heard in a long time
As if it weren't bad enough that they're gone, Mario also took down his instagram which had tons of bangers and cool music ideas that I would listen to all the time.
I know! It's a bummer.
Wait what why tf
thank you so much honestly. I got into them heavily after finding Polyphia in 2019 and i just wish i was on board sooner cause i want to give them all my support but alas now i must wait. thank you i believe i go on my detective work once a week for a while now and this has been super helpful
Yeah man! It’s hard because you want to support them but there doesn’t seem to be a way right now. I suppose just being patient for now will have to work.
Also, way to go out like necrophagist. No real end, and with a strong closer, everyone wants more. What a win!
I think that Chon has it right: take time AWAY for themselves- not just to rest, but mentally rest and recover.
That’s the best thing you can do! Taking care of yourself and your mental health is something that gets too easily overlooked.
Homie was my favorite of their albums for the longest but, their self titled has grown on me so much and I can finally truly appreciate it.
I enjoyed chins first 2 eps a lot saw them live in 2015 and the vibe was great. Wondered randomly today "i haven't heard much from chon since their first record,what happened" thanks for bringing me up to speed
Saw chon with The Dear Hunter. Was absolutely blown away. Been in love with their music ever since
Chon's self titled album was produces by javier reyes of animals as leaders and mestis....i think he definitely helped mature their sound....one of my favorite albums
Melee Gannondorf main. Bubble Dream is my favourite CHON track and absolutely adore the Audiotree Live set.
Great vid mate!
Found this looking for Chon again. I look every now and then with hope even though i know it won't happen.
This band is such a tragedy. Ill be honest, i really regret not getting the bomber from the last album because it was such a cool jacket!
One of the last tours to Philly, my friend accidentally managed to play smash in their bus with em, they lived aa chill as they acted, ill always miss then!
Edit: forgot to add, they frequently popped in to the back sections of the audience after and before their sets! I wasn't gonna be that guy, but it was pretty cool noticing mario sitting 5 feet from me!
Well explained and said, thanks! God refresh and bless Chon!
Great video man, dig your channel. Subbed!
Bro... that self check in made me instantly respect you... so many people REALLY need that sometomes. Not alot of chances to really help before its too late sometimes.
(For the record, ive only just now discovered your content)
But yeah, just wanted you to know how how amazing you are for that... to keep it 100... i wouldnt be shocked if you didnt save a couple of lives with that 3-4 second reminder... so thank you bro
Always take your mental health seriously! The world is a better place because you’re here. Thanks for the kind words Kato.
I found chon on RUclips in like 2012-13. When they came through Detroit with BTBAM, I won tickets through a Facebook giveaway. Two of my favorite bands coming through, and I had free tickets. Such a win. Then they went AWOL. Super bummed. I listen to them at least weekly and still force folks to listen to them.
Been listening to Chon for quite some time so it's great to hear this. I appreciate the work you put into getting this information!
Also, just know that the algorithm (for whatever it's worth) has been working for you today - You came up on my feed out of nowhere and your content is great! Keep this shit up!
Right on Brendan! Thank you so much. Let’s hope they come back some day.
Great video, dude!
I miss Chon so much! Was meant to see then live in New Zealand where I’m from in 2020 but they cancelled :( I bought a hoodie from them and still play their music but would love to hear more in the future. They deserve all the recognition, credit and success
Man what a bummer, I hope you get your chance someday!
Dude. I’m just discovering them and something happened lol. Great vid
respect for being a chon fan and babymetal fan, I see you bro. Also thanks for informing about what happened to them 🔥
I was able to catch Chon live in December 2019, was living in the Phoenix area and they came through with Intervals and Between the Buried & Me...entire lineup put on a sick show and since it was my second to last show before the death of live music I can be happy with that
That sounds like a killer show. I’d be happy too if that were one of my last shows.
Atleast i got to see them 3 times
Yes where are them??? They are amazing, saludos desde Costa Rica lml.
se separaron. durante pandemia se dieron cuenta que en realidad no querían estar en una banda
I know it frustrating as a fan. Watching Polyphia getting all the credit chon should be getting for the genre right now.
I mean, I think Polyphia deserves their fair share of credit. They both innovated in their own way.
Totally agree, chon are the originators
Chon has a different sound but I wouldn't say the credit they've received is not justified.
Polyphia took it to a whole new direction when they mixed trap with their music. Not comparable at this point
@@ashleyispresent Originators of what? The two bands sound nothing alike.
Erik done a QnA on insta acouple months ago, someone asked what happened, paraphrasing but he pretty much said they tried getting back into it after Covid/Restrictions and realised they didn’t enjoy it anymore
I’d like to also mention that Chon also has older much heavier music on sound cloud they released through expstudios (I believe?), personal favourite is Temporarily Destabilized
Los extraño tanto, tengo los mejores recuerdos de mi vida con su música.
Te entiendo, eran una locura. Curiosamente ninguno de mis amigos los conoce y nosotros estudiamos musica profesionalmente
While there's no problem in having theories, here's my takes:
Brian Evans (Nathan's teacher, also did drums for most of their discography, all improv very impressive guy) stated a lot of stuff on a podcast with Ando San that has since been privated, and Ando San has dissociated from Brian, Erick has publicly stated that the stuff about Sumerian is "untrue," and both Mario and Erick have stated that they have both considered just taking a break from Chon. Life happens, mental and physical health is real -- Erick still posts on his insta consistently, recently released a riff pack you can buy, and Mario is featured on some tracks by some other math-rock styled bands, also with heavy mellow. Maybe they'll return some day.
Thanks for this video though -- I'm late to it but you capture the consensus quite well!
Chon killed in San Diego. Always had a packed house at Soma whenever i saw them live.
Great video dude
best explanation vid about the chon situation
I'm wondering if one of the problems they're dealing with is Brian Evans. He's going after Javier Reyes publicly rn over some dispute with the "super chon drums" sample pack they made when tracking the self titled. Brian says it's not about money, he just wants it to stop being sold, but I bet it's a royalty dispute. So I wouldn't be surprised if maybe starting in 2020 given the pandemic times were tough and he tried to renegotiate royalties or splitsheets for the albums/merch, didn't get what he wanted and is now somehow leveraging his weight in their contracts to prevent them from doing anything until he gets what he wants. He made a statement saying "I shouldn't have to take my homies to court to get what I'm owed." In reference to the chon/sumerian drama he started.
@@mitchellbotting whoa i didnt know about this
CHON WE NEED YOU! COME BACK!
Duuuuuuude, how are you NOT popular, like what the hell. your content genuinely held my interest. you now have a new follower
Haha well thank you! I really appreciate you and your kind words. I really only started taking this more seriously about six months ago. I’ll keep pumping out videos every week so if you know anyone that would enjoy my stuff let them know! If not, just glad you found me!
I miss the homies so much
When I seen CHON at the Triple Rock in Minneapolis back in like 2016, I hadn't actually listened to them myself. I was familiar with them as they were my brothers favorite band, so when they played Elliptical Illuminations as their encore my mind was blown. I hadn't heard their old more metal material, so it was a very nice surprise.
You just hit me right in the nostalgia bone with the reference to the Triple Rock. That was one of my favorite venues. I saw mewithoutYou there in 2015 and it was a killer show!
@@TheVinylFiles Ya i had a the very same experience with Russian Circles there in 2010. Only two times I been to that venue was seeing bands I didn't listen to.
The day I heard CHON signed a deal my immediate reaction was "WHYYYY did they do that?" they had a growing, highly dedicated fanbase and could have made it work for themselves. Very sad.
And with Sumerian of all who has other cash cows that they favor heavily . Don’t get me wrong love Sumerian and most of the bands but I remember watching a Q&A with Erick and they pretty much got put in a debt a made no money from their deal . They were still paying Sumerian back at the end of 2020 if I remember correctly . I bet the whole ordeal put a bad taste in their mouth about touring and just the music business in general
I was on a few tours with Mario and Chon years ago and they are some of the coolest dudes out there for sure. Makes sense they took a break. Btw, you look and sound like RGT85 so I subbed 😂
Man I’m jealous! What’s your band? Also, thanks for the sub!
@@TheVinylFiles It was definitely a sick experience. I was in Erra, and now I’m in a band with my wife called “The Artificials”.
@@AlanRigdon YOU WERE IN ERRA?!? That’s awesome! Shoot me a message on Instagram if you feel like it I’d love to talk more!
@@AlanRigdon Nice and I have to say that Augment was a phenomenal album.
Newborn sun was fire lmao
If you listen to their first EP.. they actually have the heaviest roots in progressive metal. In my opinion, it was their best work
just started listening to Chon and love them, but i saw the significant gap in time between the last album to now and damn i was confused
It’s the worst when you find a band you love and then find out they’ve broken up.
honestly 3 years isn't that long. I'll wait patiently for them to release some good music.
I always catch on to things so late. I only got into Blink 182 in 2005 when they took their hiatus. Yes, they came back but they dont really sound the same now, more like a mix of Angels & Airwaves/coldplay/pop-punk now
I only got into Chon about a year ago and I was wondering why nothing new from them was released yet.
Oh well, im so used to being late to the party that maybe I prefer it. I get to go over multiple albums and experience the bandss/musician's growth without having to endure the wait.
10:13 sorry I can't understand what band are you naming on that moment, was "Jacob Saiteki"? I'm curious about that band. Thank you for making this video.
Jakub Zytecki. I didn’t pronounce his name correctly I’ve come to find out. Some of the best instrumental(ish) music out right now. Thanks for the kind words!
@@TheVinylFiles thank you for your answer! I'm going to check their stuff right now 😃🐳
For now you guys should listen to Strawberry Girls. They stay pretty active.
They’re great!
@@TheVinylFiles yeah so is Ben Rosetta’s solo stuff.
Samus (Zero Suit), Metal Peach. I suck at both games so i dont 'main' seriously, but it's all good fun right?
I came into this vid because i had no idea Chon had gone on hiatus, and now i'm troubled by the question of if they are a Jazz..
You cleared up the first thing, so thank you! but now i hope there is a follow up video - is Chon a Jazz? and then a follow up to the follow up, If Jazz is an Autobot, Is Chon?
Loved this, have a like, and a subscribe
It is all good fun! I’m glad you enjoyed it. Also, thank you. It means a lot. Hopefully if Chon comes back they will answer if they are indeed a Jazz.
Honestly if the self titled is the last release from Chon then that's fine with me, I've been following them since 2013. Loved both EPs, Grow had some good tracks, can't say I was a big fan of Homey, but as you said, the self titled was a perfect mix of both albums, along with the EP's sprinkled on top, and it was definitely my favorite work from them by far. I listened to that album non stop when it came out back in 2019, it was too good to put down. If it's the last thing they ever put out then so be it, they went out with an absolute banger!
"to our fans of new zealand...
we regret to inform you that we will be forced to leave our tour earlier than expected. after the past month of some grueling travel all over the world, our own health has started to affect our live shows, and because of that we will need to take a short break from tour.
we would like to thank destroy all lines and valhalla touring for bringing us over to this side of the world. all these shows have been absolutely incredible, and we could not have been more happy with the reception from our fans. we hope you can be understanding of this cancellation, and we hope to come back soon to make it up to you."
Was devastated when I saw this email. Their music helped me get through the suicide of my best friend less than a month ago.
Really hope they are all doing well.
I’m glad their music could do that for you. I hope you’re feeling well today Jack. If you need someone to talk to and want it to be a stranger on the internet, message me on instagram. I’m here for you.
@@TheVinylFiles thank you bro, thats really kind of you! Im doing alot better now. Moving on with a positve mind frame and holding life in the highest regard. Much respect. Keep up the good work!
ok i was wondering this actually. Chon is great.
Chon wouldn’t be such a hidden gem if they never stopped making music honestly. Chances are they would’ve ended up the same as polyphia stylistically 😥
The old songs would still exist
I really like captain falcon but I'm awful at him but I just love goin fast and throwin out knees and sayin "SHOW ME YAH MOVES".
Also great job, love CHON
personally i with that they stuck with the more metally sound. Its rare to find their style with distortion and I personally love it. Puddle is an absolute banger. Really wish they would come back but I doubt it.
Totally agree I feel like they would’ve been more successful that way personally. Most people that I know that love chon , love them for that style
I feel the same. If I had to rate their albums from Most liked to Least, it would be the following:
1. Newborn Sun & Grow tied
2. 2008 Demo
3. Homey
4. Woo-hoo
5. CHON Self-titled
I much prefer the metal sounding CHON. The newer stuff on Homey and Self titled always felt uninspired and that it had less soul to it
I don't know if I remember fine, but some time ago Jason Richardson won a case against Sumerian Records.. They're strange with the contracts...
I miss Chon, I always hope for a comeback.
Cheers from Italy
2008 DEMO still a banger for me, Temporarily Destabilized 🤙🏽
Yessir. That’s still my favorite body of work from them. Been rockin with chon since I was 14 in 2010 lol 👍🏽
@@BandoBrain Awesome man✌🏽
Temporarily Destabilized is one of my absolute favorite songs ever
Ay dope stuff, gotta love prog jazz metal psychedelic djent core
What is the background song?
I like to make Lo Fi hip-hop stuff in my free time. I haven’t released that one. I just use it as background music.
YOU CALL THEM CHONATHAN TOO
no one noticed the BLACKPINK album at the back! you deserve my sub!
BLACKPINK is great! What do you think of their new stuff?
Their first ep was very metal. It's not weird that newborn sun sounded the way it did. It took them years to soften to where they were
I’m sure being in that band has been an 8 year long whirlwind. I’d want a break too.
I kept wondering what happened to them hope they're doing well. as for sumerian records. been hearing lots of stories of them screwing over new bands and old bands under their label. lastest one I can think of is periphery. they left their label and released a new album under their own label. my theory they could be making big moves later on, either in sumerian or a new label. I hope they will be back when they're ready. only got to see them live once. hope to get another chance in the near future
CHON is in all of us. Always and forever. It’s protein after all 🤣
I used to listen to WooHoo a lot, and then Grow came out, and I got to the outro of Knot and my mind was albsolutely blown, as far as the adjustment of the drum part. I can't find any real-life musician friends that appreciate this idea... does anyone here know what I'm talking about?:
6 measures of 7/?, followed by a measure of 6/?, for a total of 48... divided by 3 on the hihat, now as a kind of "swing" triplet backbeat that maintains the downbeat of each 7 and 6 measure via kick drum? You know what I mean? It blew my mind and I had it figured out on the 3rd listen lol.
watched their sf show w Intervals and Between the Buried in Me. my first concert! i miss Chon
(btw meta knight!)
One love forever for CHON🤍
Los extraño más que la xuxa homies !!
So sad i never got to see them live :’(
So mario ised to be in a metalcore(?) Band called to each his own. Loved their shit. Started listening to chon with eliptical illuminations when that dropped.
So like 10:11 was so helpful. You should just make a video where you list bands that are similar to Chon or at least in the same music gerne
So like a Math/Progressive Rock directory would be helpful?
@@TheVinylFiles Yes, that would be so helpful. And you can have a short analysis of bands as they are on your list. Like What makes them unique and what you like about them.
@@howardmcmillian5764 if you never listened to The Fall of Troy check them out, they were a huge influence on Chon. The “Doppelgänger” album is a good place to start.
It seems like there is a lot of legal bs going on behind the scenes we don't know about with sumerian. Maybe not. Either way, even if it's years down the road, I'd be pumped to see the band back together.
The boys deserve time for themselves, but I do wonder, if they weren't screwed over by the record label, and they kept going, would they be as big as polyphia today or even bigger, I do hope they come back tho, we'll just have to wait for them to heal/charge up, who knows, maybe soon they'll come back to us with a banger
feels EMPTY without CHON 🫂