8:25 Hydrogen tanks capable of storing H2 at 600 bar (8700 psi) are going to be the strongest part of the car. No way that tank is going to be punctured at and accident. Hydrogen leaks are also much less dangerous than other gas leaks as H2 is extremely light. The molecules will simply go up very fast and since they are extremely small, no building could prevent them from escaping. Not that long ago (say 20 years), the problem with hydrogen gas was that tanks would leak. The hydrogen would simply escape through a stainless steel tank. A full tank would be half empty after a week.
People talk about the world isn't ready for evs due to lack of charging stations (even though tesla alone has over 100,000 superchargers and counting). How many hydrogen charging stations are there? Like 10? And most are only in Cali? And we're talking like hydrogen is going to replace evs? This is nonsense.
Hydrogen is ridiculously inefficient. You waste energy extracting it from water, you waste energy storing it at low temperatures, you waste energy converting it to electricity to power the car's motors... With EVs you can put all that wasted energy directly in the battery and the only loss comes from the charging process. EVs still have their issues, but they're far better than hydrogen.
Interesting to see what the future holds in regards to this tech. Price/cost of ownership will ultimately be the deciding factor in regards to adoption.
Honestly, the i3 range extender or Scout generator concept is a lot more feasible and practical than hydrogen technology in its current iteration. I think hydrogen fueling issues can be solved, but a greener way to mass produce hydrogen thats on par with other renewables has to happen first. Hydrogen's energy density sucks, which is why synthetic fuels are more exciting. Making a synthetic fuel with renewables gives you range, ease of fueling, and keeps the greenies happier than the current gasoline model, but doesnt require the insane charging infrastructure of EVs
I think it was the EU that has set the date to 2035. From that date no cars with combustion engines would be allowed to be sold. Some manufacturers successfully argued for an exception for cars that would run on e-fuels. I think 2035 is up for discussion now. With Trump being elected anti climate change measures will be almost futile, unfortunately. (I’m writing this from 4.5m below sea level).
wasn't toyota working on hydrogen combustion? i think that's where they'd be going instead of just a fuel cell. if bmw gives toyota performance and toyota gives bmw their hybrid tech for efficiency i think that'd be a great step forward for car tech
Hybrids, Hydrogen and e fuels are all way too expensive and complex to institute anytime soon if ever. They will be tiny niche market if at all and EVs will continue to grow alongside ICE vehicles. 90% of EVs charge at home for much less than mid or premium gasoline and the few longer trips are not much different than an ICE vehicle minus some added time. As EV and battery tech evolves ranges will go up and charging times will go down. Chargers will become more available like gas stations and hybrids and ICE sales will decline. It is virtually inevitable so embracing it makes more sense. Have an EV for daily needs and a fun ICE car for track, weekend joy drives etc..
Hydrogen is not very good for passenger cars imo. It might have its place in heavy transport vehicles on the road and on water but passenger cars are best driven by electricity directly. It’s just very inefficient to - convert electricity to hydrogen, - compress that to almost insane pressure levels (600bar or 8700psi) - convert it back to electricity - feed it to a small battery and - use that to drive an electric motor.
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Hydrogen tanks capable of storing H2 at 600 bar (8700 psi) are going to be the strongest part of the car. No way that tank is going to be punctured at and accident.
Hydrogen leaks are also much less dangerous than other gas leaks as H2 is extremely light. The molecules will simply go up very fast and since they are extremely small, no building could prevent them from escaping.
Not that long ago (say 20 years), the problem with hydrogen gas was that tanks would leak. The hydrogen would simply escape through a stainless steel tank. A full tank would be half empty after a week.
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People talk about the world isn't ready for evs due to lack of charging stations (even though tesla alone has over 100,000 superchargers and counting).
How many hydrogen charging stations are there? Like 10? And most are only in Cali? And we're talking like hydrogen is going to replace evs?
This is nonsense.
Hydrogen is ridiculously inefficient. You waste energy extracting it from water, you waste energy storing it at low temperatures, you waste energy converting it to electricity to power the car's motors... With EVs you can put all that wasted energy directly in the battery and the only loss comes from the charging process. EVs still have their issues, but they're far better than hydrogen.
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Interesting to see what the future holds in regards to this tech. Price/cost of ownership will ultimately be the deciding factor in regards to adoption.
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Honestly, the i3 range extender or Scout generator concept is a lot more feasible and practical than hydrogen technology in its current iteration. I think hydrogen fueling issues can be solved, but a greener way to mass produce hydrogen thats on par with other renewables has to happen first. Hydrogen's energy density sucks, which is why synthetic fuels are more exciting. Making a synthetic fuel with renewables gives you range, ease of fueling, and keeps the greenies happier than the current gasoline model, but doesnt require the insane charging infrastructure of EVs
All car manufacturers are slowly realizing how ridiculous it was saying that there will be no internal combustion cars produced by 2030 or whatever.
I think it was the EU that has set the date to 2035. From that date no cars with combustion engines would be allowed to be sold.
Some manufacturers successfully argued for an exception for cars that would run on e-fuels.
I think 2035 is up for discussion now.
With Trump being elected anti climate change measures will be almost futile, unfortunately.
(I’m writing this from 4.5m below sea level).
wasn't toyota working on hydrogen combustion? i think that's where they'd be going instead of just a fuel cell. if bmw gives toyota performance and toyota gives bmw their hybrid tech for efficiency i think that'd be a great step forward for car tech
well ... if you look at it the efficiency way... fuel cell is way more efficient than combustion hydrogen engines 😅 so theres really only one way
i feel like this is primarily going to be a European product and won't sell much in the US.
elon will convince trump to not allow these cars to be sold in the US.
VOTE OUT ALL LEGISLATORS THAT WANT TO GO GREEN OR MAKE MANDATES TO LIMIT GAS ENGINES
Unfortunately, everyone is too distracted by the clown show to research their local officials
Hybrids, Hydrogen and e fuels are all way too expensive and complex to institute anytime soon if ever. They will be tiny niche market if at all and EVs will continue to grow alongside ICE vehicles. 90% of EVs charge at home for much less than mid or premium gasoline and the few longer trips are not much different than an ICE vehicle minus some added time. As EV and battery tech evolves ranges will go up and charging times will go down. Chargers will become more available like gas stations and hybrids and ICE sales will decline. It is virtually inevitable so embracing it makes more sense. Have an EV for daily needs and a fun ICE car for track, weekend joy drives etc..
Hydrogen is not very good for passenger cars imo. It might have its place in heavy transport vehicles on the road and on water but passenger cars are best driven by electricity directly.
It’s just very inefficient to
- convert electricity to hydrogen,
- compress that to almost insane pressure levels (600bar or 8700psi)
- convert it back to electricity
- feed it to a small battery and
- use that to drive an electric motor.
It would be for a hydrogen combustion engine…
@@s2fociThat’s even more inefficient! That would be absolutely ridiculous.
@@s2fociThe video discusses fuel cell technology (not combustion), so the process I’ve described above.
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