RMSQM was saved after retirement. SSUS did not get the dame treatment after retiring. That's the difference. Even the City of Long Beach at struggled to maintain the Queen but still managed to pull it off. If the SSUS didn't get gutted, then chances are, she would haven been saved.
As much as I’d love to see it saved, as some point out that’s a lot of money to not only restore it, but find a new home for it too. If this would be the fate for it, hopefully they could take important parts of it, big and small, and put in a museum for future generations to see.
Did you know that there are military ships from both world wars that are museum ships? And that is a lot of money because they are kept as a museum and not scrapped or sunk as an artificial reef?
@@FerxeneixeANIMEMANGAHISTORIAYM Of course, in fact I’ve visited some of them, especially those from the Second World War. However, you have to be *realistic.* As much as we’d all love for ships like this to be saved, that’s not the fate most have. The fact of the matter is, the money has to come from somewhere and barely any money has been put up to save the ship to begin with. It’s not a utopia where every ship gets the funds needed to be saved. My point is if the fate of it is at the bottom of the ocean, might as well get some cool stuff from it.
@@FerxeneixeANIMEMANGAHISTORIAYM battleships are valued more than oceanliners. The only reason why the RMS Queen Mary was saved was because of its value for tourism to the City of Long Beach. Also taking note that there is a submarine beside RMSQM but that has long been closed off from the public because of how poorly maintained it was.
I think people need to be realistic that at this point this may be the only option left her. The conservancy has been at this since 2011 trying to find a way to save her. Modern economics of cruising means she would never be able to turn a profit anymore for what she was originally intended for, and her hull and frame is in such a rundown state that any company that had any idea for her to be repurposed for a museum, hotel, or any other venture has run for the hills once they saw the restoration cost. I think it’s time her fans face the music that while a beautiful relic and reminder of the past, that she just can’t be saved. The only way a ship of this size could be saved given the restoration costs would be if the government footed the entire bill and everyone knows that would never happen. Becoming an artificial reef is probably the last option for her besides being totally scrapped
two things - the first - i believe all the props of the united states are off the ship - your video shows the starboard one in place - and secondly the funnels will both be taken of the ship yours show them still in place
Truly, there’s very little historical significance to United States. She was built too late to see wartime service, she was built too late to be in the prime of the ocean liner era, and she was only in service for 17 years, most of which was already as a second tier mode of transport after the airliner truly arrived. Her interiors are gone, her power plant is very similar to those of the Midway class aircraft carriers (one of which is preserved) and the Iowa class battleships (all 4 of which are preserved). Even if one will argue that she’s an example of an ocean liner, which is all but lost to us today, we even have one of those - Queen Mary - which also happens to come from the heyday of the ocean liner and even has wartime service to her credit. United States has never been relevant or particularly significant.
UPDATES ON SS UNITED STATES SITUATION: it’s time to say goodbye. she’s a goner. she really was built at the wrong time :( but oh well, at least all those great memories will still be with us. 🇺🇸 #savetheunitedstates
at this point there's nothing we can do its really upsetting that this extremely historic vessel is gonna be at the bottom of the ocean i don't even know what to say at this point im even upset as well as this ship holds so much history
So what? We just sit back and accept it? We could lose our flagship, and you’re just gonna give up on it?! WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING!!!! We can still save this thing, and as long as ONE person can say that, we’re not done!
Sucks that a ship like the Queen Mary survives, but our flagship is treated like this.
RMSQM was saved after retirement. SSUS did not get the dame treatment after retiring. That's the difference. Even the City of Long Beach at struggled to maintain the Queen but still managed to pull it off. If the SSUS didn't get gutted, then chances are, she would haven been saved.
Queen Mary has a lot more historical significance, but I understand what you mean.
She's beyond saving
There’s no saving her now, her condition is too bad
@@williamkcfu have hope my friend
As much as I’d love to see it saved, as some point out that’s a lot of money to not only restore it, but find a new home for it too.
If this would be the fate for it, hopefully they could take important parts of it, big and small, and put in a museum for future generations to see.
Did you know that there are military ships from both world wars that are museum ships? And that is a lot of money because they are kept as a museum and not scrapped or sunk as an artificial reef?
It’s just been sitting there rusting… so at least She has one last use, and that is to help keep the very Ocean she used to sail on alive.
@@GoofyGoober191 How are they going to sink it, with explosives or by opening the ship's water valves?
@@FerxeneixeANIMEMANGAHISTORIAYM
Of course, in fact I’ve visited some of them, especially those from the Second World War. However, you have to be *realistic.* As much as we’d all love for ships like this to be saved, that’s not the fate most have. The fact of the matter is, the money has to come from somewhere and barely any money has been put up to save the ship to begin with.
It’s not a utopia where every ship gets the funds needed to be saved. My point is if the fate of it is at the bottom of the ocean, might as well get some cool stuff from it.
@@FerxeneixeANIMEMANGAHISTORIAYM battleships are valued more than oceanliners. The only reason why the RMS Queen Mary was saved was because of its value for tourism to the City of Long Beach. Also taking note that there is a submarine beside RMSQM but that has long been closed off from the public because of how poorly maintained it was.
Though she will be gone, she will always still be long, still be tall, and be the fastest of them all.
So you’re just gonna sit there and let our flagship be destroyed?!
@@amtrak_121 Lil bro, what am I gonna do? Say "No, don't take our vessel!"
They already made the deal. It’s finally going to be sunk
@@jamesholton2630 Well from what I can gather it hasn't been finalized just yet.
I think people need to be realistic that at this point this may be the only option left her. The conservancy has been at this since 2011 trying to find a way to save her. Modern economics of cruising means she would never be able to turn a profit anymore for what she was originally intended for, and her hull and frame is in such a rundown state that any company that had any idea for her to be repurposed for a museum, hotel, or any other venture has run for the hills once they saw the restoration cost. I think it’s time her fans face the music that while a beautiful relic and reminder of the past, that she just can’t be saved. The only way a ship of this size could be saved given the restoration costs would be if the government footed the entire bill and everyone knows that would never happen. Becoming an artificial reef is probably the last option for her besides being totally scrapped
Better to become a reef than to be torn apart for scrap metal.
I agree
This would be a sad fate for such an amazing ship
This is a sign of how America has fallen right now…
Way to make everything political
Fr
Yes, just like how UK scrapping their fleet after WW2
America has officially fallen
You got that right. Someone tell President Trump to help save her. He will do it
I hope she doesn't end up on her side when they sink her
Is it possible to guide a sinking ship to control it's landing?
@@tylerham5726kinda
this ship deserve more respect as the others flagship
(Cries in agony)
“But really hurts the most not taking a moment to say goodbye”
Life of Pi
Well i always wanted to visit the US and see SS United States in person. Such a shame i wont be able to do now :( Such a shame it ended this way.
I can't believe it, why do they have to do this, this isn't right 😞💔
Nooooooo come on. Over 10 years of legal battles just to end like this.
The ship says '' United States " on her guess it doesn't mean anything anymore, but a lot of us do still care so sad .😔
A sad end for a fine lady 😢
NOOOOO MY BABY
Great thanks a lot people here in America now we just lost the America's flag ship.
two things - the first - i believe all the props of the united states are off the ship - your video shows the starboard one in place - and secondly the funnels will both be taken of the ship yours show them still in place
Great animation
THE PEOPLE OF THE SS UNITED STATES ARISE
The end of the ss America to have her bed in the water
Truly, there’s very little historical significance to United States. She was built too late to see wartime service, she was built too late to be in the prime of the ocean liner era, and she was only in service for 17 years, most of which was already as a second tier mode of transport after the airliner truly arrived. Her interiors are gone, her power plant is very similar to those of the Midway class aircraft carriers (one of which is preserved) and the Iowa class battleships (all 4 of which are preserved). Even if one will argue that she’s an example of an ocean liner, which is all but lost to us today, we even have one of those - Queen Mary - which also happens to come from the heyday of the ocean liner and even has wartime service to her credit.
United States has never been relevant or particularly significant.
UPDATES ON SS UNITED STATES SITUATION: it’s time to say goodbye. she’s a goner. she really was built at the wrong time :( but oh well, at least all those great memories will still be with us. 🇺🇸 #savetheunitedstates
you're ten years old you don't have any memories
@@squalltholeany need to be rude your the one whose acting like a 10 year old
@@squallthole you’re just giving up like that?
Save the United state
It is the end of the show time for the old girl to go to sleep
The funnels will be removed for the onshore museum. Allegedly.
they should also save an engine and boiler
If they sink it, i hope they will sink it as it is, in one piece, ( but i hope they dont sink it at all )
@@caljucotcas what do you mean?
That's what I've read about but only one will be removed.
at this point there's nothing we can do its really upsetting that this extremely historic vessel is gonna be at the bottom of the ocean i don't even know what to say at this point im even upset as well as this ship holds so much history
So what? We just sit back and accept it? We could lose our flagship, and you’re just gonna give up on it?! WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING!!!! We can still save this thing, and as long as ONE person can say that, we’re not done!
I rather it be a hotel then a reef or scrapped
History sleeping in deep and dark seabed. Better than being scrapped and worse than saved as museumship
❤😊
The fastest ships of the world has been sunk
They better not.
#saveunitedstates
Nooo
Better than being ripped apart into nothingness and having her fragments be scattered to the wind at a scrapyard.
Real or fake😭
OlA
What do you mean
they're gonna sink it
Culpa sua ele vai ser afundado ou já foi afundado
That is stupid
NO
NO
NO
NO
It's about time...she needs to be completely cleaned of all lead based paint first...
YOU’RE IN FAVOR OF THIS?!?!?!
finakly they'll stop trying to repair that hunk of junk and fix our roads
❤
How about you go play in one of those roads?!
@@PhopSzloni How can you say that?! It may as well be scrapped if its gonna be sunk!
@@amtrak_121 oh well I'm sorry
Sorry