Btw, back in the day, you started without a courier. Someone, usually a support, had to buy it and later on someone bought the winged upgrade. But the whole team tended to share one courier so there was a lot of overwriting commands from different players. In d1 days as you can expect, the one who bought it, had to be willing to share it with the team as well, otherwise it was their personal donkey and the rest of the team had to hoof it back to fountain, every time they wanted to buy something, and item wasn't available in the sideshop(which is also gone btw) for side laners.
Quick tip: when you have spells with around 300 dmg like crypt swarm, that you usually spam on creep waves, hit the range creep once, then use the spell so they don't deny you the range creep every time. This will also come natural in time, when you get angry enough with them denying you many creeps as the bracket gets harder and harder.
Dear Grubby, It is fun to learn along with you. Your approach to dissecting and experimenting with new ideas is inspiring to watch. Seeing you pull off dastardly maneuvers to conquer your enemies is awe-inspiring.
Well done! Ganking early is great with Death Prophet. She has a significant lead early-mid game because of her spells. Like when you were level 10-11 and Tide was still 5-6 was a great time to take advantage and widen the gap. Could have continued to gank there or top. I know it's fun to jungle in between, but actually this gave time to clinkz to farm too. Flanking top by going between towers and casting ult while slar / brew / tower are being pushed by ember spirit / kunkka is a great way to trap the opponent! As long as Death Prophet is alive, she can cast more spells / silences & her ulti continues to benefit. Timing the ult with the team against 2-3+ heroes or tower pushes is best too! The other team did well to fight together, it seemed. And their Clinkz / Panda / Slar were good enough to take the game. All good learnings! Thanks for the content!
It's great to experience the learning process of DotA once more by watching your journey. It brings back a lot of memories from 15 years ago and highlights stuff that is natural to me by now. Back in the day vibes
I think you did a really freaking great job there. One thing that messed things up was Winter Wyvern. If you study WW's ult and healing a bit ur gonna understand this game a bit better. There's a lot happening at once, and chat is pressuring u because they love to see you improve and are eager to give you advice man! Everyone loves you and has great expectations for you Grubby!!! U r amazing!
Death Prophet was probably my favourite hero to play. Very fast, good in teamfights, easy to win mid with, good push early on, and can get super tanky lategame.
considering i had an easy 200 hours only playing 5-7 heroes with my friends who tought me everything before barely knowing what to do in this game, its amazing how fast you learn. I also love the approach to try to make it up yourself, for like this you are making assumptions which are either busted, or assured. a great way to lean imo. Love the content keep going. Looking forward to Phoenix, my fav hero. btw this hero here is busted a shell atm. after your a-z it would be a nice mmr booster. shes fun too
One of my all-time favorite heroes! I love seeing you make your own builds too. Really shows how you’ve absorbed game knowledge. Cannot wait to see the meepo game! Poof!
I dont want to talk down on the chat or something, dota can be played in many different ways but as a general tip from someone who has 12k hours in dota 2 and has played a lot of dota 1 aswell, dont lstsen too much to them even if they may be right in some situations. 1st its way more fun to not always play meta or what ppl think is best. 2nd its less likely that u think about what to do or is best, rather just do what everyone does. Not that i think you need my help to know how u learn best, but maybe more so for the ppl watching you ;D btw you are doing insanely well, considering it just take some good amount of time to absorb all the information about the game. you already have a better basic understanding and execution ideas then a lot of players have after thausands of hours. Keep going, way to immortal is paved. And its just fun watching you learn and enjoy the game. Hope you wont loose your drive or fun anytime soon. I am waiting for the day u try pudge :D
42:27 He threw the game, as he was hanging around mid after he heard "Roshan is dead". The biggest problem is/will be learning when to attack, when to back, etc. Rather than what items to buy.
yes dark ranger, death prophet's silence used to be instant cast instead of a porjectile and her 3rd ability is not a drain it used to be a passive upgrading her other abilities like increasing souls on her ult
I just recently found your YT channel, My friend keeps telling me stories of you years ago (ofcourse from W3) and really find your Dota 2 streams fun. Specially how you relate the skills to what was 'originally' from the warcraft franchise (technically dota 2 is derivative of custom maps dota in Warcraft game), really gives me nostalgic vibes listening to your comparisons. One tip, and I hope it does not come as an offense, but try to cover your minimap during stream to avoid stream snipers from possibly ruining your games. more of this content and more to your channel/brand!
You know something big coming when someone only play dota for a couple of days and already came out with his own build that actually is working. Grubby for TI12 pog champ
You can put runes if the bottle is full, half or 1/4 or empty. But you should use the bottle first to make sure its utilize properly. When empty get runes then click refilled full again. You can spam skills always in creeps harass better and farm better. If theyre is no runes use yung bird to get the bottle and go to the fountain and refill it and return it to the hero unlimited times and use burst in birds so the item can be delivered as soon as possible.
I can't wait for the A-Z series where Grubby goes back and watches his first A-Z series and cringes at some of the plays - that DP ult top then going to jungle...omg, I'm screaming at my screen hahah.
When you are checking out abilities in demo you should check out if it is a physical or magical ability. Alot of abilities pierces magic immunity (bkb) , like death prophet ulti
Beautiful game! That last big fight after the Rosh kill could have gone your way if exorcism came out but who cares, the game was a joy to watch. Sneaky whiskey joke... Im hoping peeps caught that 🤣🤣🤣
Denied her own death time and again, Krobelus returns from the grave with skills acquired from the beyond. Gathering a Crypt Swarm, she sends forth a flock of winged beast to harass the living. A pall of Silence falls over the land, stifling any objection as she Siphons multiple enemies dry simultaneously. Mortals beware. As she performs an Exorcism, unleashing the banshee remnants of her previous lives, demolishing enemies and their defenses alive, turning the battlefield into her own haunted ground.
Loving this series man, but.. could you make twitch chat smaller/hide it? i feel like i spend more time watching chat try to backseat your game, than actually watching you play.
The moment when you bought the 2.8k item and it was delivered I looked at the minimap / watching the curier and the enemy icon making their way to you I was on the edge and then the curier died/ suspense like Jaws or Alien. Do you know you can buy at the enemy secret shop? Insted of getting the item yourself immediately you bought it with the curier and then let the poor guy deliver the item across the whole map to die. What a futlie endeavour.
@@FollowGrubby i would like to know if you already played empire earth 2, if not i recommend a lot! There are 16 ages, more than 300 upgrades, hundreds of units and mechanics too
Hey Grubby! Try dragging your ping. I really like dragging it upward to tell people I'm omw to a gank. I think it says a lot more than just the normal ping, which sometimes feels like white noise
If the enemy is good. In early game they always harass you with supports left and right. The supports and initiators of the enemy are always roaming finding kills. Supports earding dewarding creep pulling stack
29:51 Sure, but you will have to bank the 2700 gold after the recipe anyway. Was there anything to suggest that you were more likely to die right there than after buying the recipe? If anything, buying the useful item first lowers chances of death during the banking-up period for the recipe.
you still have to learn a lot. I feel you can do like 1000 things at a time when playing WC3. In Dota it seems sometimes to be too much for you to use 2 spells and activate an item at a time. Ofc you are often handicaped cause you don't know your partners or enemy's spells. Like winter wyvern or kunkka.
Grubby, death prophet may look like a very weak character, but with ulti and e, she can easily go into towers at early levels, she is weak but she has loads of regen, specially when ultimate, that's why people run away from you, you are playing too passively, you are supposed to get in the middle of everyone, she is also offlaner, specially since your abilities work even when you are stunned or disabled. But i understand your aprehension, she's like enchantress, its very counter intuitive to imagine that she can tank a lot, and she doesn't look like your average tank (big bulky character).
Her first skill (swarm) should be targetted on the ground. The range of that skill is longer than the cast range. Edit: Also, Death Prophet and Winter Wyvern actually have a great synergy of skills. But the problem is you don't know Wyvern's skillset yet. 🤣
You needed armor and got a whole Shiva's Guard, why not just Plate Mail? That would have been just 1400 gold for 2/3 of what you wanted. I'd say the whole thing was not worth 3400 gold extra. Also, why get Power Threads? Attack speed doesn't really benefit you, instead you could have gotten Phase Boots. Which allows chasing while your life leech is active.
Too much backseating and toxicity in the chat. Looks like with his rising popularity among Dota community, a lot of dota folks have started showing the effect in the chat.
Grubby... builds are based on nuanced maths. What may seem like a great idea in concept won't really play out as you expect once your numbers and the numbers of your team and enemies come together. Good guides are based on experience of a certain patch. Some patches totally ruins guides. It's all about the nuanced and subtle number changes. Dota is so nuanced, tiny things matter. You need to watch patch analysis by big names if you have the time.
Look at him go. Before when chat says buy this he answers “but its not in the build”. Now he’s making his own builds. Soon he’ll be malding at sniper and pudge pickers like the rest of us. 🥲
Look at him go, making his own builds already. We raised that boy :']
lol and in a few months he will outrank 99% of chat probably
@@2002-s9l I'll bet in 6 months from now, he'll definitely be at least high divine/low immortal
A buncha proud papas and mamas out there!
Btw, back in the day, you started without a courier. Someone, usually a support, had to buy it and later on someone bought the winged upgrade. But the whole team tended to share one courier so there was a lot of overwriting commands from different players. In d1 days as you can expect, the one who bought it, had to be willing to share it with the team as well, otherwise it was their personal donkey and the rest of the team had to hoof it back to fountain, every time they wanted to buy something, and item wasn't available in the sideshop(which is also gone btw) for side laners.
Wow, one shared courier sounds so wierd!
Ahhhh the memories
Memories of fighting with your teammates whos items gonna be delivered first 😂😂😂
Grubby is the physical embodiment of "come on guys it's just a game"
every DOTA 2 player should listen to that one hockey player at least once every day
"is only game, why you heff to be mad?"
@@linuxblacksarena Ilya Bryzgalov russian goalie said that. Kinda ironic since its usually the russians that get ultra salty no matter what game :DD
@@valitsemllaluokanavahyvaks3556 if they weren't ultra salty we wouldn't be graced with the "buy p90, rush B, cyka blyat" meme :D
It really is just casual Dota and a lot of players get that twisted.
Quick tip: when you have spells with around 300 dmg like crypt swarm, that you usually spam on creep waves, hit the range creep once, then use the spell so they don't deny you the range creep every time.
This will also come natural in time, when you get angry enough with them denying you many creeps as the bracket gets harder and harder.
A couple games against some of the bot scripts will do this too lmao they're fucking brutal about denies.
@@missbelled6700 are there custom bots that are actually enjoyable to play against?
Dear Grubby,
It is fun to learn along with you. Your approach to dissecting and experimenting with new ideas is inspiring to watch. Seeing you pull off dastardly maneuvers to conquer your enemies is awe-inspiring.
Well done!
Ganking early is great with Death Prophet. She has a significant lead early-mid game because of her spells. Like when you were level 10-11 and Tide was still 5-6 was a great time to take advantage and widen the gap. Could have continued to gank there or top. I know it's fun to jungle in between, but actually this gave time to clinkz to farm too.
Flanking top by going between towers and casting ult while slar / brew / tower are being pushed by ember spirit / kunkka is a great way to trap the opponent!
As long as Death Prophet is alive, she can cast more spells / silences & her ulti continues to benefit. Timing the ult with the team against 2-3+ heroes or tower pushes is best too! The other team did well to fight together, it seemed. And their Clinkz / Panda / Slar were good enough to take the game.
All good learnings! Thanks for the content!
We need more people like you in the dota2 community! I love your unwavering positivity and creativity! Keep being you and keep these videos coming❤️
Thanks for the support!
It's great to experience the learning process of DotA once more by watching your journey. It brings back a lot of memories from 15 years ago and highlights stuff that is natural to me by now. Back in the day vibes
I think you did a really freaking great job there. One thing that messed things up was Winter Wyvern. If you study WW's ult and healing a bit ur gonna understand this game a bit better. There's a lot happening at once, and chat is pressuring u because they love to see you improve and are eager to give you advice man! Everyone loves you and has great expectations for you Grubby!!! U r amazing!
Hehe, makes ppl betray allies
been waiting for this to be uploaded. i watch this live on twitch and it was amazing seeing Grubby loving the game as it is :D
One of my favorite heroes thanks to the changes made transitioning from Dota 1 to Dota 2. I never really bothered with DP until I heard her voice LMAO
Love whenever you try to recognize the ability from the WC3! Her old dota 1 model was banshee which is quite obvious when you see her rofl
The resemblance is uncanny!
You can really see the confidence go up with each letter. Its always great to see someone whos learning for the first time.
Grubby saying well played unironically is such a gigachad based move. Big respect bro, keep it up
Death Prophet was probably my favourite hero to play. Very fast, good in teamfights, easy to win mid with, good push early on, and can get super tanky lategame.
The only thing his lacking is map awareness other than that his progression is solid to above average it's insane.
Valve should invite Grubby to TI as a backseatter like the guys who sit in team booths during games
considering i had an easy 200 hours only playing 5-7 heroes with my friends who tought me everything before barely knowing what to do in this game, its amazing how fast you learn. I also love the approach to try to make it up yourself, for like this you are making assumptions which are either busted, or assured. a great way to lean imo. Love the content keep going. Looking forward to Phoenix, my fav hero.
btw this hero here is busted a shell atm. after your a-z it would be a nice mmr booster. shes fun too
One of my all-time favorite heroes! I love seeing you make your own builds too. Really shows how you’ve absorbed game knowledge. Cannot wait to see the meepo game! Poof!
I'm surprise he reach until alphabet D to use his first bottle. that's pretty wild.
From plasteel to ultra malleable.
Im both proud and terrified of the possibilities.
I dont want to talk down on the chat or something, dota can be played in many different ways but as a general tip from someone who has 12k hours in dota 2 and has played a lot of dota 1 aswell, dont lstsen too much to them even if they may be right in some situations. 1st its way more fun to not always play meta or what ppl think is best. 2nd its less likely that u think about what to do or is best, rather just do what everyone does.
Not that i think you need my help to know how u learn best, but maybe more so for the ppl watching you ;D
btw you are doing insanely well, considering it just take some good amount of time to absorb all the information about the game. you already have a better basic understanding and execution ideas then a lot of players have after thausands of hours. Keep going, way to immortal is paved.
And its just fun watching you learn and enjoy the game.
Hope you wont loose your drive or fun anytime soon.
I am waiting for the day u try pudge :D
42:27 He threw the game, as he was hanging around mid after he heard "Roshan is dead". The biggest problem is/will be learning when to attack, when to back, etc. Rather than what items to buy.
yes dark ranger, death prophet's silence used to be instant cast instead of a porjectile and her 3rd ability is not a drain it used to be a passive upgrading her other abilities like increasing souls on her ult
I think clicking the ground while using carrion swarm is better rather than clicking it to the enemy. The range is better.
Yeah the range is deceptively further than it is
Same with lina Q, it goes way past the marker
I just recently found your YT channel, My friend keeps telling me stories of you years ago (ofcourse from W3) and really find your Dota 2 streams fun. Specially how you relate the skills to what was 'originally' from the warcraft franchise (technically dota 2 is derivative of custom maps dota in Warcraft game), really gives me nostalgic vibes listening to your comparisons.
One tip, and I hope it does not come as an offense, but try to cover your minimap during stream to avoid stream snipers from possibly ruining your games. more of this content and more to your channel/brand!
Welcome! I will cover later I think, during ranked
@@FollowGrubby good luck then! Appreciate you replying to this! Looking forward to your next stream! 🙏
You're getting better. Learning so much. Keep going!
I like the way she slowly wiggles her arms as she floats
You know something big coming when someone only play dota for a couple of days and already came out with his own build that actually is working. Grubby for TI12 pog champ
You can put runes if the bottle is full, half or 1/4 or empty. But you should use the bottle first to make sure its utilize properly. When empty get runes then click refilled full again. You can spam skills always in creeps harass better and farm better. If theyre is no runes use yung bird to get the bottle and go to the fountain and refill it and return it to the hero unlimited times and use burst in birds so the item can be delivered as soon as possible.
Is it still possible to do bottlecrowding with courier? I doubt so
@@zumoojack8913 Yeah but its super duper slow now
dark ranger + crypt lord + dread lord + banshee
That broom steal was epic lmao
1:56 dark ranger + crypt lord + dread lord in the body of a banshee xD
I can't wait for the A-Z series where Grubby goes back and watches his first A-Z series and cringes at some of the plays - that DP ult top then going to jungle...omg, I'm screaming at my screen hahah.
i love watching this as i leared dota from playing wc3 the 3c then dota
like rembering how i use to think bout stuff
DP can build any item and still strong, late game refresher is my favorite
"rip she got giganerfed" herald detected
Grubby makes his own build.
Viewer : he grow so fast... *sniff
35:00 This clash is "Confusion of de haiest Odda!"
Grubby, catapults (siege creeps) take very little damage from magic - last hitting them with auto attack is almost always easier!
When you are checking out abilities in demo you should check out if it is a physical or magical ability. Alot of abilities pierces magic immunity (bkb) , like death prophet ulti
Beautiful game! That last big fight after the Rosh kill could have gone your way if exorcism came out but who cares, the game was a joy to watch.
Sneaky whiskey joke... Im hoping peeps caught that 🤣🤣🤣
It is time to form a team with former WC3 legends grubby.
Will you uploaded to 2nd or 3rd DP game that you played where you popped off? That was an awesome game and a tonne of fun watching you have a blast
It’s on the list, but we have some A to Z to catch up
@@FollowGrubby sweet!
I see where I got stuck. And I love it. Few days ago I recived ice cream from my succy.
He is getting addicted 😂
If you're still having difficulties remembering what buttons do, or if a hero has too many skills, then go for passive items instead.
Agree
i just find out u play doto, i need to watch it from A after this
Welcome! Make sure to check out the A to Z playlist!
Denied her own death time and again, Krobelus returns from the grave with skills acquired from the beyond. Gathering a Crypt Swarm, she sends forth a flock of winged beast to harass the living. A pall of Silence falls over the land, stifling any objection as she Siphons multiple enemies dry simultaneously. Mortals beware. As she performs an Exorcism, unleashing the banshee remnants of her previous lives, demolishing enemies and their defenses alive, turning the battlefield into her own haunted ground.
Spending money on recipe instead of loosing it dying is a sound strategy
Hey Grubby, do you want to play dota 1 in wr3? Maybe try one hero from your a-z challenge, would be cool to see you play old techies.
That fight you had at like 35:00, if only you hadn't used it to farm the jungle would have made the difference in the fight.
Grubby the Dark Prophet Enjoyer! 😁👍
ayoo
You should do the "All-Hero Challenge " from your profile. You will win a trophy.
Would have been real nice to have that ult for that big fight at 35:00 smh
didn't heal because was tornadoed as the spell ended, right?
Loving this series man, but.. could you make twitch chat smaller/hide it? i feel like i spend more time watching chat try to backseat your game, than actually watching you play.
Maybe a post-it note over it?
@@FollowGrubby I'll try something, it's certainly a me issue but, if I'm getting distracted by the backseating, I'm sure others are too.
The moment when you bought the 2.8k item and it was delivered I looked at the minimap / watching the curier and the enemy icon making their way to you I was on the edge and then the curier died/ suspense like Jaws or Alien. Do you know you can buy at the enemy secret shop? Insted of getting the item yourself immediately you bought it with the curier and then let the poor guy deliver the item across the whole map to die. What a futlie endeavour.
great play! a recommendation, don't use your E to farm, its slow to recover CD/Charg
Good to know!
@@FollowGrubby i would like to know if you already played empire earth 2, if not i recommend a lot! There are 16 ages, more than 300 upgrades, hundreds of units and mechanics too
Hey Grubby! Try dragging your ping. I really like dragging it upward to tell people I'm omw to a gank. I think it says a lot more than just the normal ping, which sometimes feels like white noise
Bkb was a mistake build for this episode because most of your enemies are physical damage abilities. Should have used ghost scepter instead.
If the enemy is good. In early game they always harass you with supports left and right. The supports and initiators of the enemy are always roaming finding kills. Supports earding dewarding creep pulling stack
it would be cool to read lore at the beginning, in the about tab
Didn't the Death Prophet existed before the Crypt Lord ?
29:51
Sure, but you will have to bank the 2700 gold after the recipe anyway. Was there anything to suggest that you were more likely to die right there than after buying the recipe?
If anything, buying the useful item first lowers chances of death during the banking-up period for the recipe.
you still have to learn a lot. I feel you can do like 1000 things at a time when playing WC3. In Dota it seems sometimes to be too much for you to use 2 spells and activate an item at a time. Ofc you are often handicaped cause you don't know your partners or enemy's spells. Like winter wyvern or kunkka.
Has grubby do a comeback? It would be able cool to watch it
One step closer to Earth Spirit...😉
Soon!
It's not a fighting ult, It's a pushing ult. and it was not utilized very well.
I'm enjoying these videos so much that I'm almost convinced to start playing myself. Please send help.
I'm afraid I can't help you xD
Valve should pay you cause i am going back in to Dota and spending money because of you :D after 10 years of pause
Welcome back then :D
Grubby, death prophet may look like a very weak character, but with ulti and e, she can easily go into towers at early levels, she is weak but she has loads of regen, specially when ultimate, that's why people run away from you, you are playing too passively, you are supposed to get in the middle of everyone, she is also offlaner, specially since your abilities work even when you are stunned or disabled.
But i understand your aprehension, she's like enchantress, its very counter intuitive to imagine that she can tank a lot, and she doesn't look like your average tank (big bulky character).
Is Grubby aware that Dota characters also have annoyed responses when you click them allot?
still needs map awareness
Why don't you follow the all heroes challenger pattern? If you are playing all heroes you can complete that :) Great content!
The in-game challenge requires a win with each hero, and for the moment, I'm only doing one game per hero, win or loss. But thanks for the suggestion!
i see you love heroes with great aoe and ulti
Her first skill (swarm) should be targetted on the ground.
The range of that skill is longer than the cast range.
Edit: Also, Death Prophet and Winter Wyvern actually have a great synergy of skills.
But the problem is you don't know Wyvern's skillset yet. 🤣
Look at these sweaty nerds in the chat when he was making his own build “STICK TO. THE GUIDE!!! 15 RIGHT IS BETTER!!”
LOL. All accents sound german to grooby.
Why does nearly every single game have Candybomberz as a Drow?
Don't worry, soon she'll be mine!
@@FollowGrubby LOL I was just wondering if it's a group or somehow they're extremely lucky
I don't know what DP's accent is, Germans don't say G the way she does. French don't say R the way she does.
You needed armor and got a whole Shiva's Guard, why not just Plate Mail? That would have been just 1400 gold for 2/3 of what you wanted. I'd say the whole thing was not worth 3400 gold extra.
Also, why get Power Threads? Attack speed doesn't really benefit you, instead you could have gotten Phase Boots. Which allows chasing while your life leech is active.
Too much backseating and toxicity in the chat. Looks like with his rising popularity among Dota community, a lot of dota folks have started showing the effect in the chat.
hope Valve invite you to TI to provide another perspective
Using exo to farm the enemy jungle is almost peak doto
Had he died unceremoniously would have been perfect peak doto though
grubby if ur llike i thought i cast it
i think u should learn how to shift que cast spell
i am dp main so it hurts but gg🤭
You're good for a newbie.
Grubby will you be dropping a Dota Waifu Tierlist?
Drow again
gg
Grubby... builds are based on nuanced maths. What may seem like a great idea in concept won't really play out as you expect once your numbers and the numbers of your team and enemies come together.
Good guides are based on experience of a certain patch. Some patches totally ruins guides. It's all about the nuanced and subtle number changes. Dota is so nuanced, tiny things matter. You need to watch patch analysis by big names if you have the time.
Look at him go. Before when chat says buy this he answers “but its not in the build”. Now he’s making his own builds. Soon he’ll be malding at sniper and pudge pickers like the rest of us. 🥲