Tony...I am really enjoying your demos on various digital pianos. I been visiting piano stores here on Vancouver Island, in particular, Victoria, B. C. and have decided on a Yamaha CLP685. To be on the floor where the pianos are, is the only way to make a satisfying decision and I thank you for your demo's. Your playing definitely adds to the enjoyment in making a decision. Thanks again! Randall Krall, Nanaimo, B. C. CANADA.
So Roland and Yamaha won't provide a tangible visual of their action. Kawai are obviously proud to do so and that means a lot. I'm assuming it's similar if not the same as their MP11 piano. The sound seems great too so I think a visit is on the cards later in the year!
Hi Tony. Thanks for the awesome review. Any chance of posting a video comparison of CA98 with Yamaha CLP-685? It would be interesting to hear you playing both digital pianos side by side.
Great video. Is there a chance that a digital piano such as this could get damaged (in a few years) by the moisture and humidity if you live close to the sea?
No. Your body will feel the affects before the piano and then you'll know it's time to move. Even if the room is damp, you will still become ill before the PCB board.
wow mate, you so good in all you reviews... im shopping for a piano these days and coming allways to your channel for references, i was sooooo temptep to buy a fligh today and visit you guys. Luckuly for me todays flights were not so cheap LOL It really im so tempted being able to see almost every available digital under one roof. Great job man. Greerings from Spain 😁
@@bonnersmusic Im coming next week. Whats my best way? Which airport to land in best? And from there are trains, buses or any possible way to reach? Will be taxi too expensive? Should I just rent a car? Thanks 😁
@@JesusPiano we are located very close to Gatwick airport which is about 15mins taxi ride. No need to hire a car - just get a taxi from the airport, or pre-book one in advance and it'll be even cheaper.
Great review as usual. It would be nice to show the sound directly coming out of the speaker system, since it is one of the selling point of this product.
Thanks for your comment. Unfortunately the sound reproduction when recording using microphones never sounds very good. It does not do the pianos justice - especially when most people watch these movies using very small built-in speakers of a laptop, tablet or mobile phone! Best to try and see the pianos in a shop so you can hear them properly.
Do the CA78 and CA98 have half-pedal capability like the Yamaha CLP675 and CLP685? For someone only interested in piano performance - realism and responsiveness of touch, pedals and sound, could you give me a sense of the pros and cons of these new Kawai and Yamaha offerings?
Yes these models do have the Half-pedal capabilities. Preference between these models is purely down to personal taste. The features and capabilities of these instruments are almost identical on paper. Each model has the ability to amend and tweek the sounds to be exactly what you want using either the on-board user interface or wirelessly using a smart device. The actions on these models are excellent but just like acoustic pianos, they feel very different to each other. I would recommend coming to one of our showrooms and trying these models side by side. Only then will you be able to decide which one sounds and feels best to you.
Excellent review Tony! You've mentioned some apps "...interactive tution apps which allows you to learn the piano and it interacts with you...". QUESTION: could you name some of these apps? Especialy these which observe the playing and notice that the piano player made mistake and wrong played note is higlighted in red or alike.
Hello! Thank you for watching! There are many apps available these days for iOS or Andriod, such as Yousician and Simply Piano. Many Of these offer the feature to connect via Bluetooth to your instrument and assist with your learning. Have a look at your relevant App Store and check the reviews of each one to find one suitable for your needs.
Awesome preview, can't wait until the new CA78 arrives in North America so that I can purchase one :). I really like the sound of the piano at 5:53 - can you please tell me what music title that piece is from? I'd like to learn to play it as a beginner.
Alan Petrus I’m not certain what he plays at the first part (sounds almost like Rachmaninoff?), but then it sounds like he transitions into “Kiss From a Rose”!!
Lori Pike The CA 78 and 98 are upgrades of CA 67 and 97. CS 8 and 11 are the polished ebony versions of CA 67 and 97. Hence, CA 78 and 98 are ahead of CS 8 and 11. I'm awaiting the delivery my CA 78. It's touch is amazing. You've got to try it.
The sound I hear in this CA98 video is not the sound of my CA98 piano. Here you can hear a balanced and harmonious sound, as well as sweet and pleasant. My CA98 that I received 2 days ago does not resemble anything: it is unpleasant and unbalanced, there is a tremendous difference between playing soft to strong, to the point that it is scary to play hard, but on the other hand the sound of soft touching is off and without lifetime. In the video has a piano parameter changed? In that case, would you be so kind as to explain the changes, please? I am one step away from returning the piano. Thank you. A greeting.
I own the CA78 and I have to say I don't like the Pianist mode. I always relay on the EX-Grand in the Sound mode, not the Pianist mode and they sound so much better.
I am a bit worried about the touchscreen on it. Not seldom, smartphones break after 4 to 5 years and it seems like that the piano uses similar technologies. I know that it comes with a warranty but I simply don't want to swap my pianos every 5 years or so.
Great review. Could you also make one for the Yamaha Hybrid Digital Piano NU1X? I would like to know how does it compare to the CA98. Thanks in advance.
Hey guys, thanks ever so much for your always informative videos! I'd really appreciate your advice on this new touchscreen system, as I'm quite concerned that some software malfunction or bug would render the piano far quicker useless than the old button systems. What would one do if such a touchscreen would break down after warranty expires? Would it not be somewhat more future-proof to go with prior versions without touch screens? Many thanks!
Dear Sir, I´ve tested different digital pianos of various brands and it seems to me , that with modern Digital Pianos the speakers seem to be an issue reducing the quality of sound dramatically. Since You have pointed out, that speakers of CA98 are remarkably good, I am curios about the audio path having been used in this video. Is it a) CA98 - line out - storage media or b) CA98 - speakers of CA98 - microphone - storage media ?
Hello, Tony! How ca78-ca98 are in compare with ca67-ca97? Is "piano mode" sound render way better then ca67/ca97 sound render? I mean can you really hear the difference comparing those models? What can you say about sound system onboard compare to ca67/ca97? Are all changes worth it to buy those next level models or it is more esthetic changes (facelifting) (I mean slightly better sound and new touchscreen with Bluetooth)? Because grandfeel2 on previous models and there were now changes on ca78/98. Sorry for my english.
The Grand Feel II feels a bit different to me on these models compared with the older CA67/97. I think Kawai may have made some adjustments to the keyboard, but have not officially confirmed this. The sound is very different to the older models and you should try them out yourself.
thanks Tony, but could you possibly describe this difference you feel beetween this and the older models , perhaps lighter/heavier, responsiveness, depth of key-down etc...
My other serious question relates to longevity. I have a Yamaha U3A, bought 2nd hand a few years ago, which is some 30 years old and still magnificent in touch and tone. I bought a Casio Celviano mid-range digital for my adult son just 3 years ago (he lives overseas). I visited him last month and found that the piano is starting to fail in many respects. Are these semi-professional Yamaha and Kawai digital pianos expected to last for decades like their analogue siblings, or will their electronics deteriorate like I have seen with my son's Celviano?
I received an in-depth response from Kawai to this same question. Essentially, the respondent said that the Kawai CA78 is built to a very high standard and carries a long warranty which is rarely expected to be needed. But, unlike acoustic pianos, it is not designed to be regularly opened up, tuned, and adjusted. Additionally, its electronics and switches might be affected by extreme conditions and by continuous demanding use. So it would be impossible to compare its longevity and resilience to my Yamaha U3A, or to make realistic claims about lasting for decades. The respondent did suggest that the fully acoustic but digitally enhanced AnyTime pianos, and the new Novus NV10 hybrid grand, do allow you to maintain the piano in the same way you would a fully acoustic model. Yamaha's response was not as in-depth but substantially the same.
The main difference is the soundboard the CA 98 has, while the CA 78 only has speakers. Other than that, the CA 98 has more sounds to choose from, but that's about it I believe.
No only for the new CA series. They absolutely failed on setting up the onkyo sound system ex factory. They also epic failed on the touch screen... not even scrolling back whilst playing usb music. And lots of crashes of the system during navigating in usb. And navigating (scrolling) is a pain.
Strandbuggyschaukler do you still recommend them? I like to buy one, but I hesitate between the 78 and the 98. Is the 98 worth the money just for the soundbord?
No, I can only tell about the CA98: Totally untested electronics, crashes, bugs and problems w/o end: When headphones are connected: Crash and factory reset, no navigation in USB files possible, Bluetooth audio is noisy and unusable, parameters can not be changed (scrolling) w/o changing parameters by error. No realistic sound: Stick with a used CA97 instead. Way better and cheaper.
I had the privilege of trying the CA78 and CA98 recently. They were very nice but the touch wasn’t very convincing, even if it was the Grand Feel II action. Then I moved over to the acoustic Kawai K15 and I just loved how it feels. I’m genuinely wondering: Is my inexperience with pianos showing through? Am I being foolish for disliking the action of the CA98 and preferring the K15? Any opinions?
Not at all! Digital Pianos have come on leaps and bounds in terms of the feel in recent years, but there are not many substitutes for the real thing if that is what you are used to playing. The most experienced players will notice the subtle differences that others may not. I would recommend popping into one of our stores in Eastbourne or Reigate and trying the many different Digital and Acoustic Pianos we have available. You may find that you prefer the action on another piano to these? There are so many to try and they all vary so much in the way that they feel. We are bound to find you something that you like!
Hi Tony, great video. Many thanks. I find it interesting what you say about your guess that Kawai have adjusted the action compared with the CA97. I had the opportunity to compare the CA98 and the CS11 recently (I haven't played the CA97 but I assume the CS11 has the same feeling action as it). I noticed a difference in the action too. To me, I wondered if the CA98's action was a bit heavier? I noticed my fingers becoming more tired compared to playing the CS11. Can I ask how in what way you found the action different compared to the CA97? Heavier or lighter? I mentioned the difference to Matt at Kawai UK and he seemed unaware of any change which had been made.
I already bought the CA 48. I feel like the sound is very decent but i am missing some bass on the lower keys. On the other hand if i put in my studio headphones the sound is absolutely brilliant and delivers bass, too. It is so amazing how it acts like a real grand piano when pressing the keys very slightly its quite and calm and when pushing them in heavily it gets so loud and expressive. Anyway the sound of the speakers is good, but i expected just a little more from a 1800€ product.
Hi Tony, so far I didn't have the chance to play Kawai, but planning to purchase one. I heard they are much better than Yamaha. Kawai CA 98 or CS 11? what do you suggest based on action and sound features as you played both of them? Thank you
Many thanks! The GFC is the Compact version of the Grand Feel II action found in the CA78 which has the Ebony touch keys in addition to the Ivory Touch. There is certainly a difference in the way that they feel and respond. Which you would prefer is unfortunately very much down to personal taste. I find the Compact action in the CA58 much lighter than the GF2 action in the CA78, but the Pivot point on compact action is much closer than the CA78. Also it is worth noting that the Control Panel on the CA58 is the same as the previous CA67 and CA97, whereas the new CA78 has the Touch Screen and the additional new voices available. Feel free to contact us on 01323 636140, or pop into one of our stores if you need any further assistance from our Piano Specialists.
Hi, nice video mate, I want to ask you a quick question: better Grand Feel Compact wooden-key keyboard action (ca48) or grand feel 2?(the one in the video)
Many thanks! I wouldn't say that one is better or worse than another, however, the Grand Feel Compact is slightly lighter in touch than the Grand Feel 2. It really is down to personal preference. I would recommend coming to either our Eastbourne (South Coast, BN21 3JN) or Reigate (Junction 8, M25) showrooms and trying them for yourself side by side.
Both the CA78 and CA98 are excellent piano's, as is the CLP685. The action on the CLP685 is heavier than the Kawai's, you may or may not prefer this. I would advise coming in to either our Reigate or Eastbourne store where you can try all of these models side by side. Choosing the Digital piano that is right for you will be very personal to your own taste and experience. Our Piano specialists in the store will be happy to guide you through the different models available to you, and help you find your perfect piano!
i'm a beginner and i'd love to buy a piano that i won't have to change for a long time , so i prefer spending money now and not having to buy another piano in the future .. i'm very undecided between a Kawai CA78 and a Korg G1 Air . Basically i know that they are on a different level , but i want piano with BT audio streaming and the choice is between those 2 models . Now , in Italy the price difference is 1000 € more for the Kawai compared to the Korg. Do you think the audio difference worth 1000k or not ? Thanks
Io credo che non si tratta solo del suono ma anche del feeling con i tasti... se vuoi iniziare e sai che non mollerai prendi il 78 o il 98, se invece non sei sicuro e tendi a mollare la maggior parte dei nuovi hobby allora prendi un piano più economico e vedi come va...domani vado a provare questi due e poi vedo...anche lo yamaha Clavinova sembra interessante, gli darò un’occhiata.
i just discovered Clavinova clp645 , that has the quite the same price range of the korg g1 ( 1970 € for the clp645 vs 1600 of the korg ) and i think it's way better . Still i prefer the sound of the kawai , but it costs 2800 € .. so i guess i'll buy the Clavinova that has the same features of the Kawai
Matte if you haven’t tried it yet I suggest you to do so before even think about purchasing it...by the way yamah and Kawai are both very good brands when it comes to digital.pianos, you can have a look to some Casio Privia as well, you might be surprised.... Personally I would avoid the Korg though, cheap material, awful keys...(at least the ones that I tried) Good luck
Thanks ! If i'll have to choose between a Korg G1 and a Yamaha clp645, i'll definitely take the Yamaha. i only tried a Kawai Es100 and a Kawai kdp90 in a local shop and i felt in love with the realistic sound. I can only imagine how fantastic would sound a Ca78 live .. tomorrow i'll go looking for a Yamaha to try . I think Casio is a lower level product compared to Kawai and Yamaha
I like Kawai's cabinets the most, because only Kawai has this straight "wall" behind the keys, just like real acoustic grands. Neither Yamaha nor Roland offer this. But I don't like that this big screen can't be covered or completely switched off during playing. Unfortunately, on the video it wasn't show, whether it's possible to switch off screen, and if so, how it looks like being switched off. Because when it's ON, it's really would be annoying for me. Ideally, Kawai had to make the same cover, as for CS11.
Unfortunately, in my humble opinion, the CA98 samples in the PIANIST mode do not live up to all the hype. Let me explain: Try playing the Demo songs and selecting SK-EX Concert Grand - which is the Chopin Scherzo No.2. And in the demo this famous piece really sounds quite nice on the CA98 Soundboard / speaker setup. However (!) if you then select the SK-EX Concert Grand in Pianist mode and have a go at playing this piece by Chopin - well it sounds ABSOLUTELY NOTHING LIKE the piano on the demo. The sound is very thin and even sounds quite boxy: I find this especially so in the Octave below middle-C on the keyboard. The strange thing is that thing improve somewhat when using a pair of Headphones: I use a pair of Bose QC15's and things are then a little better. And so at the moment the verdict is still out - are the SK-EX Concert Grand samples not up to the job or, is it all being let down by a cheap speaker system in the CA98 (4 x low cost paper-cone speakers). It would be interesting to hear from other Kawai owners - especially ones that have the Novus model. Because the NV-10 and the CA98 share so much of the Technology, and so maybe share the same issues. (I have not had the opportunity to try out the Novus to compare). Comments based on software v1.0.2
Tom F Wright im really not an expert, but all the songs and demos in the CA 78 are like "flat" or stick too much with the metrónomo. It have no emotion at all. Sorry for bad english btw
Yes, I've never been very keen on the built-in demo songs - they do lack emotion and feeling, as you say. I think these pianos always sound much better when played by a human pianist, who can respond to the feedback of the instrument.
Tony...I am really enjoying your demos on various digital pianos. I been visiting piano stores here on Vancouver Island, in particular, Victoria, B. C. and have decided on a Yamaha CLP685. To be on the floor where the pianos are, is the only way to make a satisfying decision and I thank you for your demo's. Your playing definitely adds to the enjoyment in making a decision. Thanks again! Randall Krall, Nanaimo, B. C. CANADA.
I have the CA78. It's really beautiful.
Lucky you :)
Your keyboard playing and buyers guide videos are great. Keep it up Tony.
Tony, you could play a toy piano and make it sound exquisite. It is such a joy to watch and listen to you play.
I own a CA98 and just cant seem to get the right settings for a concert grand - very frustrating
Thank you so much for this. I was struggling with my new digital and you have helped so much.
Great job Tony! Nice use of graphics in the presentation too!
THX 4 video..
But not all CA get the same action...😉 Ca48and 58 have Grand feel but, "compact"
Greetings from México city 👍
Bonners give full information about any piano they review.🎉🎉
So Roland and Yamaha won't provide a tangible visual of their action. Kawai are obviously proud to do so and that means a lot. I'm assuming it's similar if not the same as their MP11 piano. The sound seems great too so I think a visit is on the cards later in the year!
I own an 80 year old acoustic upright piano which still plays great. I just wonder if the CA98 would also last 80 years.
nico3641 fckn troll 😂
Nope. Mine last 3 months before the action went clunky.
Ahh it's such a beautiful piano sound...
Hi Tony. Thanks for the awesome review. Any chance of posting a video comparison of CA98 with Yamaha CLP-685? It would be interesting to hear you playing both digital pianos side by side.
Watch this space.....!
Great video.
Is there a chance that a digital piano such as this could get damaged (in a few years) by the moisture and humidity if you live close to the sea?
No. Your body will feel the affects before the piano and then you'll know it's time to move. Even if the room is damp, you will still become ill before the PCB board.
wow mate, you so good in all you reviews... im shopping for a piano these days and coming allways to your channel for references, i was sooooo temptep to buy a fligh today and visit you guys. Luckuly for me todays flights were not so cheap LOL It really im so tempted being able to see almost every available digital under one roof. Great job man. Greerings from Spain 😁
Thank you very much for your comments!! We hope to see you at one of our showrooms in England in the future 😃
@@bonnersmusic Im coming next week. Whats my best way? Which airport to land in best? And from there are trains, buses or any possible way to reach? Will be taxi too expensive? Should I just rent a car?
Thanks 😁
@@JesusPiano we are located very close to Gatwick airport which is about 15mins taxi ride. No need to hire a car - just get a taxi from the airport, or pre-book one in advance and it'll be even cheaper.
Great review as usual. It would be nice to show the sound directly coming out of the speaker system, since it is one of the selling point of this product.
Thanks for your comment. Unfortunately the sound reproduction when recording using microphones never sounds very good. It does not do the pianos justice - especially when most people watch these movies using very small built-in speakers of a laptop, tablet or mobile phone! Best to try and see the pianos in a shop so you can hear them properly.
Do the CA78 and CA98 have half-pedal capability like the Yamaha CLP675 and CLP685? For someone only interested in piano performance - realism and responsiveness of touch, pedals and sound, could you give me a sense of the pros and cons of these new Kawai and Yamaha offerings?
Yes these models do have the Half-pedal capabilities. Preference between these models is purely down to personal taste. The features and capabilities of these instruments are almost identical on paper. Each model has the ability to amend and tweek the sounds to be exactly what you want using either the on-board user interface or wirelessly using a smart device. The actions on these models are excellent but just like acoustic pianos, they feel very different to each other. I would recommend coming to one of our showrooms and trying these models side by side. Only then will you be able to decide which one sounds and feels best to you.
What Music at 8.26 Romantic Piano? 👍
14:30 OMG
Excellent review Tony! You've mentioned some apps "...interactive tution apps which allows you to learn the piano and it interacts with you...". QUESTION: could you name some of these apps? Especialy these which observe the playing and notice that the piano player made mistake and wrong played note is higlighted in red or alike.
Hello! Thank you for watching! There are many apps available these days for iOS or Andriod, such as Yousician and Simply Piano. Many Of these offer the feature to connect via Bluetooth to your instrument and assist with your learning. Have a look at your relevant App Store and check the reviews of each one to find one suitable for your needs.
12:01 Ooooooh 😍😍😍
Awesome preview, can't wait until the new CA78 arrives in North America so that I can purchase one :). I really like the sound of the piano at 5:53 - can you please tell me what music title that piece is from? I'd like to learn to play it as a beginner.
Alan Petrus I’m not certain what he plays at the first part (sounds almost like Rachmaninoff?), but then it sounds like he transitions into “Kiss From a Rose”!!
How does the CS11 compare to the CA98 in sound? I have the CS11 but it seems that the CA98 sounds better in the store.
Lori Pike The CA 78 and 98 are upgrades of CA 67 and 97. CS 8 and 11 are the polished ebony versions of CA 67 and 97. Hence, CA 78 and 98 are ahead of CS 8 and 11.
I'm awaiting the delivery my CA 78. It's touch is amazing. You've got to try it.
Tony, how does the ca78 compare to the Yamaha CLP 645? I can't find a place locally that has both:/
I join the question. Please! CA-78 vs. CLP-645 - Which keyboard is harder?
@@shaolin95 Thanks a lot for your opinion!
The sound I hear in this CA98 video is not the sound of my CA98 piano. Here you can hear a balanced and harmonious sound, as well as sweet and pleasant. My CA98 that I received 2 days ago does not resemble anything: it is unpleasant and unbalanced, there is a tremendous difference between playing soft to strong, to the point that it is scary to play hard, but on the other hand the sound of soft touching is off and without lifetime. In the video has a piano parameter changed? In that case, would you be so kind as to explain the changes, please? I am one step away from returning the piano. Thank you. A greeting.
I own the CA78 and I have to say I don't like the Pianist mode. I always relay on the EX-Grand in the Sound mode, not the Pianist mode and they sound so much better.
I am a bit worried about the touchscreen on it. Not seldom, smartphones break after 4 to 5 years and it seems like that the piano uses similar technologies. I know that it comes with a warranty but I simply don't want to swap my pianos every 5 years or so.
Great review. Could you also make one for the Yamaha Hybrid Digital Piano NU1X? I would like to know how does it compare to the CA98. Thanks in advance.
Great video. Comprehensive review 👍👍
Thank you! I hope you found it useful!
Hey guys, thanks ever so much for your always informative videos! I'd really appreciate your advice on this new touchscreen system, as I'm quite concerned that some software malfunction or bug would render the piano far quicker useless than the old button systems. What would one do if such a touchscreen would break down after warranty expires? Would it not be somewhat more future-proof to go with prior versions without touch screens? Many thanks!
Very good point indeed! I noticed it takes a while to load from switching on, and this was same in 2 shops.
Dear Sir,
I´ve tested different digital pianos of various brands and it seems to me , that with modern Digital Pianos the speakers seem to be an issue reducing the quality of sound dramatically. Since You have pointed out, that speakers of CA98 are remarkably good, I am curios about the audio path having been used in this video. Is it
a) CA98 - line out - storage media or
b) CA98 - speakers of CA98 - microphone - storage media ?
Great review, thanks
Do you have a review on the Kawai CA48? how would you compare it to the casio gp300.
Many thanks for the informations. How does this compare with clavinova clp 685?
Hello, Tony!
How ca78-ca98 are in compare with ca67-ca97? Is "piano mode" sound render way better then ca67/ca97 sound render? I mean can you really hear the difference comparing those models? What can you say about sound system onboard compare to ca67/ca97? Are all changes worth it to buy those next level models or it is more esthetic changes (facelifting) (I mean slightly better sound and new touchscreen with Bluetooth)? Because grandfeel2 on previous models and there were now changes on ca78/98. Sorry for my english.
The Grand Feel II feels a bit different to me on these models compared with the older CA67/97. I think Kawai may have made some adjustments to the keyboard, but have not officially confirmed this. The sound is very different to the older models and you should try them out yourself.
thanks Tony, but could you possibly describe this difference you feel beetween this and the older models , perhaps lighter/heavier, responsiveness, depth of key-down etc...
My other serious question relates to longevity.
I have a Yamaha U3A, bought 2nd hand a few years ago, which is some 30 years old and still magnificent in touch and tone.
I bought a Casio Celviano mid-range digital for my adult son just 3 years ago (he lives overseas). I visited him last month and found that the piano is starting to fail in many respects.
Are these semi-professional Yamaha and Kawai digital pianos expected to last for decades like their analogue siblings, or will their electronics deteriorate like I have seen with my son's Celviano?
I received an in-depth response from Kawai to this same question. Essentially, the respondent said that the Kawai CA78 is built to a very high standard and carries a long warranty which is rarely expected to be needed. But, unlike acoustic pianos, it is not designed to be regularly opened up, tuned, and adjusted. Additionally, its electronics and switches might be affected by extreme conditions and by continuous demanding use. So it would be impossible to compare its longevity and resilience to my Yamaha U3A, or to make realistic claims about lasting for decades. The respondent did suggest that the fully acoustic but digitally enhanced AnyTime pianos, and the new Novus NV10 hybrid grand, do allow you to maintain the piano in the same way you would a fully acoustic model. Yamaha's response was not as in-depth but substantially the same.
What's The main diffrence between CA 98 and 78 ?
The main difference is the soundboard the CA 98 has, while the CA 78 only has speakers. Other than that, the CA 98 has more sounds to choose from, but that's about it I believe.
Hi! Did you make already the new Kawai EQ-Update on this piano?
+Gerrit S. Yes the video was made with the updated EQ settings
what are these "EQ settings"??
Does the CN37 have it too? Just ordered one
No only for the new CA series. They absolutely failed on setting up the onkyo sound system ex factory. They also epic failed on the touch screen... not even scrolling back whilst playing usb music. And lots of crashes of the system during navigating in usb. And navigating (scrolling) is a pain.
Strandbuggyschaukler do you still recommend them? I like to buy one, but I hesitate between the 78 and the 98. Is the 98 worth the money just for the soundbord?
No, I can only tell about the CA98: Totally untested electronics, crashes, bugs and problems w/o end: When headphones are connected: Crash and factory reset, no navigation in USB files possible, Bluetooth audio is noisy and unusable, parameters can not be changed (scrolling) w/o changing parameters by error. No realistic sound: Stick with a used CA97 instead. Way better and cheaper.
I had the privilege of trying the CA78 and CA98 recently. They were very nice but the touch wasn’t very convincing, even if it was the Grand Feel II action. Then I moved over to the acoustic Kawai K15 and I just loved how it feels. I’m genuinely wondering: Is my inexperience with pianos showing through? Am I being foolish for disliking the action of the CA98 and preferring the K15? Any opinions?
Not at all! Digital Pianos have come on leaps and bounds in terms of the feel in recent years, but there are not many substitutes for the real thing if that is what you are used to playing. The most experienced players will notice the subtle differences that others may not. I would recommend popping into one of our stores in Eastbourne or Reigate and trying the many different Digital and Acoustic Pianos we have available. You may find that you prefer the action on another piano to these? There are so many to try and they all vary so much in the way that they feel. We are bound to find you something that you like!
Hi Tony, great video. Many thanks. I find it interesting what you say about your guess that Kawai have adjusted the action compared with the CA97. I had the opportunity to compare the CA98 and the CS11 recently (I haven't played the CA97 but I assume the CS11 has the same feeling action as it). I noticed a difference in the action too. To me, I wondered if the CA98's action was a bit heavier? I noticed my fingers becoming more tired compared to playing the CS11. Can I ask how in what way you found the action different compared to the CA97? Heavier or lighter? I mentioned the difference to Matt at Kawai UK and he seemed unaware of any change which had been made.
+Alex Demetriou The action on the new models does feel heavier to me too.
What about the CA 48? Does it have a good feel and sound for 1000€ less than the ca78?
I already bought the CA 48. I feel like the sound is very decent but i am missing some bass on the lower keys. On the other hand if i put in my studio headphones the sound is absolutely brilliant and delivers bass, too. It is so amazing how it acts like a real grand piano when pressing the keys very slightly its quite and calm and when pushing them in heavily it gets so loud and expressive. Anyway the sound of the speakers is good, but i expected just a little more from a 1800€ product.
Hi Tony, so far I didn't have the chance to play Kawai, but planning to purchase one. I heard they are much better than Yamaha. Kawai CA 98 or CS 11? what do you suggest based on action and sound features as you played both of them? Thank you
Now that the CA98 is available in the polished ebony finish, and has the updated Shigeru Kawai pianos sounds, that would be my choice over the CS11
Hi Tony, great stuff, as always!
Is there a noticeable different between the GF2 (CA78) and GFC (CA58) action?
Many thanks! The GFC is the Compact version of the Grand Feel II action found in the CA78 which has the Ebony touch keys in addition to the Ivory Touch. There is certainly a difference in the way that they feel and respond. Which you would prefer is unfortunately very much down to personal taste. I find the Compact action in the CA58 much lighter than the GF2 action in the CA78, but the Pivot point on compact action is much closer than the CA78. Also it is worth noting that the Control Panel on the CA58 is the same as the previous CA67 and CA97, whereas the new CA78 has the Touch Screen and the additional new voices available. Feel free to contact us on 01323 636140, or pop into one of our stores if you need any further assistance from our Piano Specialists.
Hi Tony, thanks for your very detailed review. Just one question please, would you recommend upgrading from CA67 to CA98?Thanks.
+jyz1982 there's a big difference in the sound between the CA67 and 98, so yes, it would be a significant upgrade.
Hi, nice video mate, I want to ask you a quick question: better Grand Feel Compact wooden-key keyboard action (ca48) or grand feel 2?(the one in the video)
Many thanks! I wouldn't say that one is better or worse than another, however, the Grand Feel Compact is slightly lighter in touch than the Grand Feel 2. It really is down to personal preference. I would recommend coming to either our Eastbourne (South Coast, BN21 3JN) or Reigate (Junction 8, M25) showrooms and trying them for yourself side by side.
Allways great videos. How do they compare against a Yamaha CLP-685?
Both the CA78 and CA98 are excellent piano's, as is the CLP685. The action on the CLP685 is heavier than the Kawai's, you may or may not prefer this. I would advise coming in to either our Reigate or Eastbourne store where you can try all of these models side by side. Choosing the Digital piano that is right for you will be very personal to your own taste and experience. Our Piano specialists in the store will be happy to guide you through the different models available to you, and help you find your perfect piano!
Thank you..
Will Kawai introduce a polished ebony finish on the CA98 in the Fall of 2018?
They have done, yes.
i'm a beginner and i'd love to buy a piano that i won't have to change for a long time , so i prefer spending money now and not having to buy another piano in the future .. i'm very undecided between a Kawai CA78 and a Korg G1 Air . Basically i know that they are on a different level , but i want piano with BT audio streaming and the choice is between those 2 models . Now , in Italy the price difference is 1000 € more for the Kawai compared to the Korg. Do you think the audio difference worth 1000k or not ? Thanks
Io credo che non si tratta solo del suono ma anche del feeling con i tasti... se vuoi iniziare e sai che non mollerai prendi il 78 o il 98, se invece non sei sicuro e tendi a mollare la maggior parte dei nuovi hobby allora prendi un piano più economico e vedi come va...domani vado a provare questi due e poi vedo...anche lo yamaha Clavinova sembra interessante, gli darò un’occhiata.
i just discovered Clavinova clp645 , that has the quite the same price range of the korg g1 ( 1970 € for the clp645 vs 1600 of the korg ) and i think it's way better . Still i prefer the sound of the kawai , but it costs 2800 € .. so i guess i'll buy the Clavinova that has the same features of the Kawai
Matte if you haven’t tried it yet I suggest you to do so before even think about purchasing it...by the way yamah and Kawai are both very good brands when it comes to digital.pianos, you can have a look to some Casio Privia as well, you might be surprised....
Personally I would avoid the Korg though, cheap material, awful keys...(at least the ones that I tried)
Good luck
Thanks ! If i'll have to choose between a Korg G1 and a Yamaha clp645, i'll definitely take the Yamaha. i only tried a Kawai Es100 and a Kawai kdp90 in a local shop and i felt in love with the realistic sound. I can only imagine how fantastic would sound a Ca78 live .. tomorrow i'll go looking for a Yamaha to try . I think Casio is a lower level product compared to Kawai and Yamaha
gp500 or ca98?
Clp 645. lol
I like Kawai's cabinets the most, because only Kawai has this straight "wall" behind the keys, just like real acoustic grands. Neither Yamaha nor Roland offer this. But I don't like that this big screen can't be covered or completely switched off during playing. Unfortunately, on the video it wasn't show, whether it's possible to switch off screen, and if so, how it looks like being switched off. Because when it's ON, it's really would be annoying for me. Ideally, Kawai had to make the same cover, as for CS11.
It can be set to switch off automatically after about 10 secs and switch back on when you tap it. It does not go completely black.
I want to buy a CA78 but can't seem to find it in the U.S. (other than direct from Kawai for $4,000).
Unfortunately, in my humble opinion, the CA98 samples in the PIANIST mode do not live up to all the hype.
Let me explain: Try playing the Demo songs and selecting SK-EX Concert Grand - which is the Chopin Scherzo No.2.
And in the demo this famous piece really sounds quite nice on the CA98 Soundboard / speaker setup.
However (!) if you then select the SK-EX Concert Grand in Pianist mode and have a go at playing this piece by Chopin - well
it sounds ABSOLUTELY NOTHING LIKE the piano on the demo.
The sound is very thin and even sounds quite boxy: I find this especially so in the Octave below middle-C on the keyboard.
The strange thing is that thing improve somewhat when using a pair of Headphones: I use a pair of Bose QC15's and things are then a little better.
And so at the moment the verdict is still out - are the SK-EX Concert Grand samples not up to the job or, is it all being let down by a cheap speaker system in the CA98 (4 x low cost paper-cone speakers).
It would be interesting to hear from other Kawai owners - especially ones that have the Novus model.
Because the NV-10 and the CA98 share so much of the Technology, and so maybe share the same issues.
(I have not had the opportunity to try out the Novus to compare).
Comments based on software v1.0.2
Tom F Wright im really not an expert, but all the songs and demos in the CA 78 are like "flat" or stick too much with the metrónomo. It have no emotion at all. Sorry for bad english btw
Yes, I've never been very keen on the built-in demo songs - they do lack emotion and feeling, as you say. I think these pianos always sound much better when played by a human pianist, who can respond to the feedback of the instrument.
The Casio VL-Tone has a far superior piano sound than either of these models.
Go back to your room!
Since when does Matt Damon do Piano reviews?
it is better then roland