coming back to the game after a couple years and these changes are overwhelming. Looks completely different than what I was used to. Thanks for making this.
Lol i was listening and kinda started zoning out because it's all very overwhelming. But here! 5:03 There we go! "Press bahamut, pick a Lego". Finally something my brain could grasp. Beautiful artwork btw.
You could also look at the physical ranges. Although I should say, no job is actually all that difficult in the game! So if something looks fun to you, then don't worry about how difficult people say it is. You can do it!
Thanks for the video, I am a returning summoner after a year off. I have to relearn the rotation, as just clicking anything that pops up to use like whack-a-mole isn't working very well.
im learning summoner mainly to try POTD out and oh boy lmao i started out just pressing every proc xD this makes a lot more sense so basically SUMMON BAHAMUT do beeg damage then summon not bahamut, not bahamut, not bahamu-- PHOENIX BEEG DAMAGE-- not bahamut LOL
Everyone says this job has a brain dead rotation and is so easy, but I just listened to the first 6 minutes of this video and I have no clue what the hell is going on lmao.
@@Juliacare Thank you for the encouragement! Yeah I'm at the dummy now, gonna start the video over and follow along. I haven't played in quite a while and the job has changed so much since the last time.
@@KakavashaForever remember you also dont have to understand it in one go. Let it sink in and rewatch at a later date as well. That was you can learn the best.
I'm just coming back to this game and being a Persona fan tbh I can't think of another class more fitting of that. Especially with the wild card abilities.
Does your searing light fall off just before the swiftcasted slipstream? Even at a fastish gcd my buff tends to fall off just before I can get the slipstream cast off.
Without clipping any of your gcds, it is possible with a faster gcd. Usually it is something spell speed summoner does rather than the crit build. For the crit buils you can consider doing garuda first if you have a lot of short buffs that would fall off almost instantly after slipstream is cast.
Yes, of course. You could even choose not to use potions at all as using them is not a requirement for clearing savage content. It is only in the latest ultimate, Dragonsong War, or during the first few weeks of a new savage tier, where the usage of potions is key. After that, it is simply to try to deal as much damage as possible. If clearing is all you care for, then do not feel pressured to use potions.
@@karmaspcs Yet in raiding scenarios, the content these guides are focussed on, they’re rarely used. Hence why they’re in a separate section. ps. liking your own comments is kinda cringe
@@karmaspcs I’m fairly sure the author determines the intention of the work. That aside, there isn’t even anything PvE related to do in EW aside from raiding. You’re free to disagree though, just seems like an odd thing to complain about. It’s not like these actions have feelings and putting them neatly in their own section will make them feel bad.
@@imq7_649 Trust me, once you get the hang of the job, and when you experience other jobs, you will understand how simple SMN is. However, don't let elitists sway you away from playing it, as it is one of the best jobs to learn the game and hard content with, and at the same time one of the most visually appealing jobs as well imo.
@@nebulagray88 now i am level 70 and i am totally agree that SMN is easy af i was before that BLM and i can say the deffrint bettween them, the thing that makes me saying smn i hard is the ability changes with eliminte is kinda annoying hard to learn but end up easy. Sorry for my english
This is because you want to wait for the raid buffs of your party members to be applied to you before casting them. These go out at their latest in the oGCD window of the 3rd GCD so the oGCD window of the 4th is the earliest you can cast them. Waiting for these buffs will make your akh morn deal more damage causing you to gain a higher aDPS rank and giving your party members a higher rDPS rank. All whilst not losing you any rDPS damage yourself.
@@Juliacare wow, i didn't even consider the buffs of my other party members. so basically you are trusting them to use their buffs on the same time as yours?
@@sentralorigin yep thats how all jobs play in this game. Anyone that has learned the basics of the rotation will naturally align their buffs with others. Sometimes without realising. PF in EU seems to do it fine, not perfectly, and my statics from the past few years have been accurate to the gcd nearly every single pull.
I’m not sure about raw stat numbers. Simply avoid sps once you reach a recast time where you get in an extra demi gcd consistently. Focus fully on crit items after. Look at the BiS list for meld suggestions, else use the stat priority to meld. The difference is small.
I feel like they did the rework backwards. Using Titan, Ifrit, and Garuda should build energy that leads into Bahamut/Phoenix. As a SMN main since FFXI, however, I'm pretty disappointed with the rework. It doesn't feel like a summoner anymore. In fact, it feels like they recycled a kit that would have worked well for a Geomancer. Oh well. Here's to hoping 7.0 brings us real pet/dot class.
Thats a fair opinion. I believe SE is shying away from dots and gave up on the pet AI. Its still a summoner, just not in the same sense as other games have summoners. You cast your spells through your carbuncle as a sort of spell casting focus.
@@Salmacream I might want to clarify that i believe that theres nothing wrong with this design. Its just different. And maybe lacking in optimisation options for higher end players.
@@Juliacare I really dont mean to be rude. But I was actually agreeing with the comment not your reply... to be fair I never saw your reply and I also think you have good points. But my monkey brain still wishes pets were better. Sorry for the confusion man.
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coming back to the game after a couple years and these changes are overwhelming. Looks completely different than what I was used to. Thanks for making this.
Don't be overwhelmed, smn is sooo much easier to play now compared to how it used to be.
Lol i was listening and kinda started zoning out because it's all very overwhelming. But here! 5:03 There we go! "Press bahamut, pick a Lego". Finally something my brain could grasp. Beautiful artwork btw.
That was actually the best guide I have seen so far thank you so much finally I understand my opener as well as each skill’s abilities
I’m glad you found it useful!
I am new to mmo games and at the moment it seems the easiest to learn of all jobs for me. I'll give it a try
You could also look at the physical ranges. Although I should say, no job is actually all that difficult in the game! So if something looks fun to you, then don't worry about how difficult people say it is. You can do it!
Thanks for the video, I am a returning summoner after a year off. I have to relearn the rotation, as just clicking anything that pops up to use like whack-a-mole isn't working very well.
That is the best visual guide of all time. lmao
im learning summoner mainly to try POTD out and oh boy lmao i started out just pressing every proc xD this makes a lot more sense so basically SUMMON BAHAMUT do beeg damage then summon not bahamut, not bahamut, not bahamu-- PHOENIX BEEG DAMAGE-- not bahamut LOL
Thx very much for posting this helped me out a lot 👍
You’re very welcome ^^
Thank you!
Sarcastically asks: What about Physick
Use this on big pulls in the level 30 leveling dungeon idk
Everyone says this job has a brain dead rotation and is so easy, but I just listened to the first 6 minutes of this video and I have no clue what the hell is going on lmao.
Take it easy, rewind a bit, practice on target dummies. You’ll learn it quickly!
@@Juliacare Thank you for the encouragement! Yeah I'm at the dummy now, gonna start the video over and follow along. I haven't played in quite a while and the job has changed so much since the last time.
@@KakavashaForever remember you also dont have to understand it in one go. Let it sink in and rewatch at a later date as well. That was you can learn the best.
I'm just coming back to this game and being a Persona fan tbh I can't think of another class more fitting of that. Especially with the wild card abilities.
accidental SMN main here. is this actually updated to the current patch? I have no clue what to meld with my p9-12 gear.
Yea nothing changed since I brought out the video so its still up to date.
Heres p9-p12 bis etro.gg/gearset/66f5ec54-c062-467f-811f-5e77a90c7aba
@@Juliacare perfect!!!!!!!!! thank you! feeling like a sprout running around with no melds
Does your searing light fall off just before the swiftcasted slipstream? Even at a fastish gcd my buff tends to fall off just before I can get the slipstream cast off.
Without clipping any of your gcds, it is possible with a faster gcd. Usually it is something spell speed summoner does rather than the crit build. For the crit buils you can consider doing garuda first if you have a lot of short buffs that would fall off almost instantly after slipstream is cast.
Question after you hit level 80-90 do you summon ifirit 2 titan 2 etc instead of original versions ? Thanks
Yep, theyll replace the original ones on your hotbar as well.
@@Juliacare thank you so much
Is it okay to use lesser pots of int while learning the rotation and while I can't afford Pot of Int 6s to a high number?
Yes, of course. You could even choose not to use potions at all as using them is not a requirement for clearing savage content. It is only in the latest ultimate, Dragonsong War, or during the first few weeks of a new savage tier, where the usage of potions is key. After that, it is simply to try to deal as much damage as possible. If clearing is all you care for, then do not feel pressured to use potions.
1:15 what about painflare?
2:15 what about the AOE from the carbuncle?
have you considered watching the rest of the guide, 7:50 on wards specifically?
@@Juliacare yes it feels wrong. AOE are abilitis too. no need to put them into a seperate part.
@@karmaspcs Yet in raiding scenarios, the content these guides are focussed on, they’re rarely used. Hence why they’re in a separate section.
ps. liking your own comments is kinda cringe
@@Juliacare it is a endwalker guide NOT RAID Guide. big difference
@@karmaspcs I’m fairly sure the author determines the intention of the work. That aside, there isn’t even anything PvE related to do in EW aside from raiding. You’re free to disagree though, just seems like an odd thing to complain about. It’s not like these actions have feelings and putting them neatly in their own section will make them feel bad.
*THE EASIEST MOST BRAINDEAD CLASS IN FFXIV.*
*LEGIT.*
I'm level 25 summoner and after watching this, summoner has a lot of things going on and that not easy
@@imq7_649 Trust me, once you get the hang of the job, and when you experience other jobs, you will understand how simple SMN is. However, don't let elitists sway you away from playing it, as it is one of the best jobs to learn the game and hard content with, and at the same time one of the most visually appealing jobs as well imo.
@@nebulagray88 now i am level 70 and i am totally agree that SMN is easy af i was before that BLM and i can say the deffrint bettween them, the thing that makes me saying smn i hard is the ability changes with eliminte is kinda annoying hard to learn but end up easy. Sorry for my english
@@imq7_649 yes, it pretty much boils down to: If you dont have to move, choose Ifrit, if you have to move choose the other two.
for the general opener, why do we need to wait for the 4th gcd to cast akh morn?
This is because you want to wait for the raid buffs of your party members to be applied to you before casting them. These go out at their latest in the oGCD window of the 3rd GCD so the oGCD window of the 4th is the earliest you can cast them. Waiting for these buffs will make your akh morn deal more damage causing you to gain a higher aDPS rank and giving your party members a higher rDPS rank. All whilst not losing you any rDPS damage yourself.
@@Juliacare wow, i didn't even consider the buffs of my other party members. so basically you are trusting them to use their buffs on the same time as yours?
@@sentralorigin yep thats how all jobs play in this game. Anyone that has learned the basics of the rotation will naturally align their buffs with others. Sometimes without realising.
PF in EU seems to do it fine, not perfectly, and my statics from the past few years have been accurate to the gcd nearly every single pull.
@@Juliacare should i use Searing Light on cooldown then? i usually save it for my Bahamut since it's always a few seconds behind my Bahamut
on cd, your spell speed is likely not ideal. You gain more damage even if used outside of bahamut by keeping it aligned with other raid buffs
is crit 2179 dtr 2115 dh 758 good??
I’m not sure about raw stat numbers. Simply avoid sps once you reach a recast time where you get in an extra demi gcd consistently. Focus fully on crit items after. Look at the BiS list for meld suggestions, else use the stat priority to meld. The difference is small.
why put 6.2 on title ? when you put 6.1 in the video... nvm the rotation isn't change
yea no changes were made so the video is still relevant
I feel like they did the rework backwards. Using Titan, Ifrit, and Garuda should build energy that leads into Bahamut/Phoenix.
As a SMN main since FFXI, however, I'm pretty disappointed with the rework. It doesn't feel like a summoner anymore. In fact, it feels like they recycled a kit that would have worked well for a Geomancer.
Oh well. Here's to hoping 7.0 brings us real pet/dot class.
Thats a fair opinion. I believe SE is shying away from dots and gave up on the pet AI. Its still a summoner, just not in the same sense as other games have summoners. You cast your spells through your carbuncle as a sort of spell casting focus.
Completely agree
@@Salmacream I might want to clarify that i believe that theres nothing wrong with this design. Its just different. And maybe lacking in optimisation options for higher end players.
@@Juliacare I really dont mean to be rude. But I was actually agreeing with the comment not your reply... to be fair I never saw your reply and I also think you have good points.
But my monkey brain still wishes pets were better.
Sorry for the confusion man.
@@Salmacream no worries! Didnt perceive is as rude
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So ifrit never gets used only bahamut titan and garuda so you dont summon ifrit after titan and garuda ?
You do use ifrit, the optimal opener simply if titan into garuda. And ifrit afterwards. Please watch the rotational section, not just the opener.