Civil War Agenda Explained
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- Опубликовано: 15 апр 2024
- Civil War Agenda Explained
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We talk about the agenda of Civil War from A24 and what started the war in the film. We took some of Garland's Interviews including Discussing Film's interview with Alex Garland and came up with this conclusion.
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I looked forward to seeing this film 4 months ago when I saw the first trailer. My wife and I hadn’t been on a date in a long time so I offered her a movie and dinner afterwards. She looked at the trailer and said this was something she really didn’t want to see. I told her that was fine , we could see another movie, and told her I would go see it myself. She told me she wanted to go to the movie with me. I gave her no fewer than 20 chances to say no to this movie. After the movie, she was angry with me and asked “Why would you take me to see such a movie?!” That said, I liked it (I could even say I loved it) but I didn’t enjoy it. I’m glad I saw it, but I never want to see it again. It truly frightened me. Worse than any horror movie ever could. I truly fear something like this is what the United States is headed for. One scene I found particularly interesting was the opening scene where “The President” (I don’t think they ever named him) is shown from the side. He had a turkey neck/double chin thing that if you imagined him in silhouette looked a lot like Donald Trump. However, he had a hard time “putting two sentences together” like Joe Biden. In that sense, I saw him kind of as a hybrid character. One of the things that truly frightens me is there are people who wouldn’t mind if “their favorite president” was “elected” to a third term. One example of this is one person on Facebook was advocating for the reelection of Barack Obama. Many people on Facebook pointed out the 22nd amendment to him. This person put up further posts that were clearly indicative that he knew nothing about the constitution. I pray to God this never happens (again) As an amateur historian I read of the carnage in the first American Civil War. As a “Recovering New Yorker” who has spent most of my life in Florida since age 13 I encountered many southerners who proclaimed “THE SOUTH WAS RIGHT!” I’ll close by saying that my real fear is if another Civil War occurs half of the military and police departments will side with the government while the other half of the military and police department side with the people. If that happens (as portrayed in this horror movie) we won’t know who the enemy is.
There are things worse than war, living under tyranny is just one example
We’re there now!!!!
As a retired newspaper guy, I loved this movie for its portrayal of journalism. As an American, I love it as a warning about the chaos that would ensue if our democracy were to fail. I think you hit the nail on the head here. Alex Garland made the right choice in framing this film in a non-partisan way and leaving the events and reasons resulting in this civil war vague. As viewers, that allows us to fill in the background for ourselves if we choose to do so. But it also makes clear that this is something no sane person should want (realizing that sanity itself sometimes seems to be slipping away). If we wish to avoid any chance of descending into a real-life bloody social conflict, we need to find a way to stop hating and come together in whatever ways we can.
a real one team red would win..starve out big cities food...gas etc. most truckers are team red..war is terrible.... when team blue attacks small towns they will shoot back
Fake News has a great deal to do with why we are on this precipice. So called journalists have lied to us since Walter Duranty covered up the Holodomor and probably before that. And people have died because of it.
This movie is actually EXTREMELY partisan and the prez leans towards what Trump was supposed to be like if he won a second term.
Liberals thought of him as someone who would abolish amendments to get his 3rd term dictatorship. Which they shown in the film.
The abolishment of the FBI and Charlottesville prepping scene was definitely a shot at Trump
The parallels of the film's president beefing with southern states(longtime establishment southern Republicans) under Florida governor was the most obvious dig at Trump too.
Definitely Partisan. Let's end that farce of a narrative
Trumps most solid support is in the South. Texas opposed certifying the obvious farce of an election in 2020. They wouldn't rise against Trump. Nor would Florida, which just voted for Trump overwhelmingly in the primary.
The only area solidly under the President's control in the movie was the Northeast.
We’re too late to come together bla bla bla.
& this movie was about crooked Biden, not Trump. You’re seeing this from a completely different point as mine; however that was the objective of the movie.
Trump 24
Even though a civil war takes place in a single country, it’s violence is multiplied. People will turn on neighbors that they may have liked, or may have hated, they’ll use the civil war as an opportunity. It’ll require swift mobilization of men and brutal tactics to win, violent, disgruntled young men will use this as an opportunity. In places like Bosnia you can find memorials where battle or atrocity occurred, bodies will be hung on freeways, remnants of skyscrapers will remain, and bullet-scarred streets and walls will taint our once pristine society
Sammy was the only likable and moral character. And as soon as Lee developed a conscience, well, she went the way of Sammy.
message of the movie: you help people the world kills you
A24 is definitely the studio of the future just as long they keep working with great creators like Alex Garland
We should also take in account was that the WW3, Finno Korean Hyperwar, and WW4 veterans won flawless victories at Golden Gate Bridge, Bunker’s Hill, Hollywood, the Alamo, Broadway, and Harpers Ferry as much they did at Russia-China War, Vietnam-Afghan War, North Korea-Iranian War, and Cuba-Venezuelan War. Their tactics during Second, Third, and Fourth America Civil Wars are the sole reason that they won against Thanos, God Emperor, and Darkseid
Was a great movie! I find it stupid that people want it to be a message about what side you are on.
Rather than seeing the point of how shot war is for us.
Right?
@@bluecollarmenproductions lol.
Sorry I'm not familiar with USA politics. I don't really know what left or right stands for. But I am left handed 👍
Whoever said the movie should be a message about what dude you’re on? I think the criticism is more about the lack of context for the storytelling.
@@karimbennett5651I think the lack of context is a deliberate choice. By presenting the story (i.e. facts), in their original form without context/framing/bias, it allows the viewer to fill in the blanks for themselves. Note, this is what journalism should be, without partisan spin. In giving the viewer the space to add in their preconceived notions or political views, it acts like a mirror. I went in watching this with a certain expectation and saw what I wanted. In watching other reviews, I think going in a second time with the other perspective would then reinforce that. I’m excited to give it a shot.
This movie has many messages and some may say it's about being woke. That's the point and that the good thing. For example the sniper scene is revealing. People we consider non violent had to take up arms to protect themselves. The woman in the store being complacent. The soldier killing people who aren't considered American even when people who look like him are in the mass grave. The world relief workers who could have came from another country to render aid. People of color finding shelter and helping others even though they could have been targeted. 300 Canadian dollars having more value that the American dollar. California and Texas have more in common than most people think. Again the movie should make people think twice about their petty differences.
I think this is actually a part of leave the world behind
The movie made it clear that journalism changes nothing.
They might not save the day in the movie. But in today’s reality, they sure have fan the flames of Hatred, Bigotry, Racism and Deceit. I’ve never seen the US so polarized in my lifetime (1960’s and forward) I watch all the networks carrying their ideologies and narratives and it does nothing but divide us. It’s the so called journalist who have created this environment of fear and hate.
Thought provoking movie for sure. Reminded me of the movie "Gray state" which would have been closer to answering the "why". Go down that rabbir hole, I dare you.
@waynerinurmouf2636 yep David Crowley I think was his name.
Saw it and liked it. Felt no "agenda".
This movie is about what would happen to YOU. Without YOU, there is no journalism!
I do find it frustrating that sometimes the factions were not clear. Even in Ukraine when Russia and Ukraine are using the same camo, the ukrainians use blue armbands and tape while the Russians have Zs on things.
I’ve seen it twice now and I Believe don’t over think it and you will love it for what it is they put America 🇺🇸 in a Kosovo 🇽🇰 War situation to me the guys in the Gas Station shows what it will be more then anything Canadian $300 get what ever you want $300
American a Ham or Cheese Sandwich this is where the Movie 🎥 is scary and Great to me 😂
Do you have links to those Alex Garland interviews where he says the president is a fascist?
Yes I just put the link in the description for it
@@CultureElixir thank you!
Which film is the Frameo in your backdrop? Like the pattern!
Hi yes its from Blade Runner 2049 and thanks!
yep thats what I got out of it. The two states put their differences aside and had to put down the fascist govt. In these events, people deal with it differently. They got caught up with survival and the journalists are there to get all the visuals for people to interpret.
Alright so I just saw Civil War the second time. The reason why I saw it the second time, was of all the poor reviews saying it was a snooze fest and it was boring.
I stayed awake during the two viewings. And I think the point is quite clear why they’re at war it’s brief but it’s clear and it ends up of the audience to decide why are they are in a Civil War.
The messaging I got from this film was that: In a civil war like this, people are going to take advantage and just be physcos. Also War is hell, and hopefully we shouldn’t be on this path.
Think people whom are saying it was garbage I feel like really rely on gunfire, explosions, and big budget films that’s on cocaine.
This film wasn’t bad, should’ve it been better? Yeah. Feel like there should be a little bit more to explain.
Last thing, this reminds me of Come And See.
That’s my final review on this film.
If your a fan of camera, and imaging, this is your film entirely.
Divorces occur in the heart before the Courts. Countries no different. Before hostilities break out, the parties separated by irreconcilable differences. Once side usually wants to go peacefully. The other side won't allow it. This movie seems foreshadowing of the inevitable. And the best explanation why >6 million military service age (18-40 yrs) from over 150 foreign countries were let into US by one side.
Hmmm…And who did that President remind you of??? Be honest. I mean who is advocating for trashing the Constitution? Who thinks he deserves three terms? Who wants to be a dictator? Yeah. That’s what I thought.
@@goodcitizen3027 Biden.
@@goodcitizen3027 If you read my post, my opinion is the president was a hybrid character of Trump and Biden.
@@recoveringnewyorker2243 That’s your opinion. I disagree.
@@goodcitizen3027 First of all, you apparently have no clue that the globalist agenda is behind all of this insanity that just "sprang up" out of nowhere a few years back and while I DO think that Trump is playing the role of controlled opposition I am wondering what proof or source that you can show that Trump ever expressed interest in being a "dictator"? I mean - do you have any solid evidence of that other than MSM TELLING you that it's so?
Do you even know what a "dictator" IS? Who enforced mask for the man made virus that wasn't killing people in droves? Who tried to force you to take the jab or lose your job? Your mind is pretty vacant...
Could have been darker
But the country in our liberties that we take for granted was built on war, but this movie is just entertainment
I think that the director telling us that this movie is not about civil war was a cop out. If it was about journalism, why call the movie, "Civil War"? I'll tell you why. He's preying on the fears of Americans during election season to cash out. For that one simple plain reason, I do not support this movie. Don't lie! I'm sick of lies from film, media, politicians and ourselves. The movie is about CIVIL WAR. It is not about journalism.
Sorry this movie is a cop out, every soldier in the first civil war knew exactly what they were fighting for, they actually wrote it down. Just like the states that seceded wrote down explicitly why they were leaving the union.
Look up the word Civil and then War, together in one sentence is an Oxymoronic statement
Not if you trace it back to its Latin roots. It originally referred to a citizen. Therefore a civil
war, and Rome experienced several, refers to a war between citizens. Knowing this, it makes perfect sense.
@@goodcitizen3027mic drop, lol😂
What’s this take? No one is claiming war is civil. It’s to differentiate combatants. This is like 6th grade reading comprehension.
In the movie the president is a fascist that forced a third term. Who does that sound like?
Sounds like Obama, who is currently working his third term from behind the scenes through his senile sock puppet Biden.
Biden Mr. Magoo regime!!! It’s all about control.
The biggest problem with this film was it was marketed as a blockbuster not a mid budget indie. Gareth Edwards made Monsters in 2010 for 500k and it was as, if not more affecting. I think it’s downfall, if any was not trusting it’s audience to turn up without a bait and switch. We’ll find out when the extent of the second weekend drop happens.
tod phillips 😂
Is it really an “anti-war film?” I got different vibes at times when the soundtrack combined with mayhem to make the intense fire fights feel like a video game or ad for the US Army. It’s the press war photographers who endure terrifying violence but come back from their PTSD for more, drawn to the horror of war like moths to flame. One line from a journalist punctuates an important scene, “I’ve never felt so much fear, but I’ve also never felt more alive!”
#CIVILBORE film😮😮
To think our modern journalists act with integrity and keep those in power "in check" is the real fiction
The best movie I have seen in a few years. You feel like you are in the middle of it all. The only movie where you come out with PTSD.
This is totally of what Trump would bring. I am in Canada so my view is neutral since I cannot vote in the US.
It’s not about civil war at all - it’s about a hero (the chosen one) whose power to save humanity requires that she sacrifice (separate) her own humanity. She can no longer remember why she is a hero. She is eternally trapped in her role as hero. Though her hell is eternal - she can only pass it along. She meets her “replacement” and so begin the journey of passing the torch - as our dead human hero get’s relieved by the still alive younger version of herself. We watch as the chosen one passes her hero - and in the transposition is given back her humanity (by being forced to talk about her origins) (being forced to smile) (being forced to wear a dress). In her final assault on the White House - she gives up her hero prison shell she gets to cry and fee. Honest to the hero genre (twisted drama)- the hero who is only a hero because she gave up being human - can only escape (transfer he prison) by “not being dead” she has to be human (finally prevent the causality instead of film it) and in doing so “she escapes” yeah!!!! In death - in which it’s very action “kills the humanity” of the “now, no longer a live child. It’s so weird to me how people compare this to military movies when it’s really a re telling of the god father. The little girl is Micheal Corleone “she becomes the god father” The guy’s who get shot are Sunny. The God father is heavy older guy - and Pablo Escobar is The consigliere. Have you seen an A24 movie? They the Dave Mathew’s of movies. They disguise art house movies and all the masses to watch movies of substance. The reason it doesn’t make political military sense - is because it would distract from the story. However, they got lucky in the telling because - what causes civil war is nonsensical but real. It makes sense that they would intentionally muddy the logic. “What are you stupid?” We are trying to kill the person who is killing us - it’s irrelevant of which side we are on. Then comes the guy in the pink glasses “the rise of the sociopath war criminal” and of course the trump fantasy (that fits too) - beware of the narcissist fascist. A24 is amazing. Go see it and enjoy it.
War is not bad. War is not evil. War is not terrible. Actually war is really wonderful provided that #1 You survive and #2 You win. The surviving winners of a war stand to gain immense wealth and power not possible otherwise which is why there are wars now, there always have been and always will be. To simply dismiss war as a some sort of mass insanity is not accurate. What you can do is to denounce war as morally wrong even if it might make you rich.
The idea that it's bad and shouldn't happen is pretty clear. The more sinister message behind it if there is any, would be that you can trust journalists. Maybe you could decades ago, but at least in america, they've proven time and time again that you can't.
Kentucky would be with the South. Definitely not with the Yankees.
It’s not Yankees vs Rebs anymore man.
@@BlueCollar850 sure Yankee
The Texas Federation is more like it all of the Gulf States along with Arkansas Missouri Oklahoma and Arizona ... new Mexico wouldn't last.. Colorado would be given a choice... let's just pray it Never Happens...
Read The Brigade by Harold Covington. It covers the same thing the Civil War movie does but in a much better way with more background info and is much more plausible than the movie. Its riveting whereas the movie is incoherent.
Hollywood making pro-propaganda for the media.
I saw it and really didn't care for it, it was a slow burn. I preferred Full Metal Jacket and some other predecessors with similar story lines.
The biggest problem I had with this movie is that I didn’t like any of the characters. Journalists as heroes? Laughable.
I find it interesting that a movie about second civil war in the US has only one Black character in it. He has no opinion about what is happening and has no other purpose other than to mentor non-Black people. Of course he dies first. Not interested.
Barack Obama what are the third term and there was people that actually thought it was possible BLM
I think you meant to say Trump. He is always saying that he deserves a third term. And that he want to be a dictator. His words; not mine.
Ruth Bader Ginsburg should have figured leftist
Some of these comments make it all possible
@@tedmichas7709 So it’s leftist to realize that no president is entitled to three terms? Or to be a dictator? Or to order troops to fire on unarmed citizens? Or to order Seal
Team Six to assassinate his political enemies? Tell me you failed Civics without telling me you failed Civics.
Obama is in his 3rd Biden is his puppet!
This is BS. It's a love letter to the media, who in my opinion, has an enormous fault in the very divisions that currently plague our nation. Journalists think too much of themselves. They are there to report, not to tell us what to think. Didn't like at all. They are not heroes. They are parasites.
They are radical left wing activists! Not journalists.