Get Out of Your Own Way: Anarchy & Peace with Penny Rimbaud of Crass
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- Опубликовано: 27 фев 2017
- Penny Rimbaud is a 73-year-old artist, poet, and activist who, in 1977-alongside Steve Ignorant-founded Crass: the most influential anarcho-punk group of the 20th century. For this punk collective activism was just as important as the music. Additionally, as Rimbaud puts it, "we wanted to help people understand was a sense of autonomy and authenticity of the individual human soul."
These days Rimbaud lives in a farmhouse in the middle of the English countryside alongside fellow Crass member, artist Gee Vaucher. Together the two continue dedicate their lives to art and literature; still adhering to and promoting Crass' core values of anarchy, peace, vegetarianism, and anti-authoritarianism.
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"I wasnt going to accept the world I was being handed because it was cruel" fucking nail on the head
Of Montreal - The Repudiated Immortals, excerpt:
But don't don't lose hope no no no no
No no no don't feel sad 'cause it's a violent world
But there's still beauty
I'll take care of you if you take care of me
I first discovered CRASS in 1978 as a bullied outcast. Now I'm a 58 yr old punk geezer and totally relate to feeling despair about people being sheep.
I wish I hadn't. Geezer.
Stay positive. Most people want to be good.
I’m a 49 year old punk geezer, and I’ve had despair about people being sheep from day one. It’s gotten worse, if anything.
@@robertrozier2940 Maybe it’s getting better in the 50s?
Warm regards from a 46 year old 5th generationer who survived western society so far.
Crass Is dope, my favorite. I'm 28 born in 95
As an autistic kid I believed all these celebrities from the early 80s, the folly of youth may be true but I’m happy that I did because the philosophy of the traveller punk community helped me learn how to be a good person.
Thank you to everyone who came before me, and some who came later,
Peace love and anarchy
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Love Penny and Crass. All my life their message has stayed with me. Anarchy and Peace forever
They shaped my life and views. Discovering them as a teen. Anarchy and peace!
A and P forever !!!!!!
Crass and rudimentary peni, some of the most thought provoking bands and music I've ever had the pleasure of coming across, there is no authority but yourself
Ethan Kropp You might like the band “ proud city fathers “..been going years, supported “conflict “ on several gigs in the early 80’s and have been going on since then. They used to be called the NC’s, an enigmatic name which stands for “National Cunts” a piss take of the National Front who were a real big political force in their day. I played bass with them during those days and don’t see the guys these days although I’ve seen them at their invite a few times live. In their element on stage, you’ll find them on you tube. Worth a listen.
What about the Supreme Being? The origin of all origins? The cause of all causes? Of course there is an authority beyond the self.
@@bighill8272 No Gods, No Masters. Believe in fairy tales if you like of course...but maybe get out of your own way?
Poison girls as well.
What about oi poloi and the Bus Station loonies too? First I got penis envy then found others, rudimentary peni are great too!
It always tripped me out that Penny was in his mid-30's when he formed Crass. And I love that he mentions Flux of Pink Indians.
everything this man said about life and not wanting "that" way of life. i with resonate everything. and especially the music of crass that influenced my way of thinking since a teen.
I saw what he also saw , Crass made me realise I wasnt the only person who thought that way .. I always felt on the outside and "odd" ... thanks for helping me :-)
He is a realist and anarchist Punk Rocker.
My hero.
Realist.
He’s perpetually locked in little boyhood.
@@MrSmallpoxSatan what do you mean..
Footage of Penny interspersed with ads for Instagram? Delicious! 🤣
Have been a Crass guy since the early 80's. Am 57 years old now and still love them. I can never hear One Little Indian records without thinking Flux Of Pink Indians. In my head everyone knows the connection. In reality no one knows what one has to do with the other. I guess I need to get out of my own way. Wonderful interview.
Penny Rimbaud... I don't like to describe anything or anybody by using superlatives. However, I will make an exception. Simply this... Penny? What a human being!
I truly appreciate the deeper look that we were given into Penny's mind and the past that created his belief system... whether those beliefs were related to politics, War, or religion, we saw a man affected by the times around him, and a view into the actions he took to better what he saw as Injustice, instead of merely holding an opinion and crying about life and its woes. Great documentary. Cheers from Baltimore Maryland USA! @@@.
Well, Penny has read a lot from anarchists, taoists, peace-loving people and I guess some other philosophy. However, it served him well and it’s a delight what he shares with us.
Very powerful stuff. Even though crass had a certain amount of underlying youthful folly, they also had a real maturity and depth to the lyrics. It's taken me to until my 30's to understand some of them, a better understanding of zen Buddhism was needed to fully comprehend big A little a.
could you say how zen made you understand big A little A?
Penny Rimbaud is indeed an old git, but an old git worth listening to.
true dat..
The kids at a pub I frequent call me grpa & I fucking love it.......
We'll be much poorer when we lose any members of CRASS....
Penny is a very wise old sage.
Loving the house..
a hero, truly.
I had no clue Gandalf was a Anarchist.
That's the spirit! Humor is everything.
That's why I prefer the advesary force in Tolkien's Legendarium, because for me they symbolizes the alienated, the dispossesed and the working class in broad strokes. There are even writers have written their own versions of the Tolkiens fantasy epic with a narrative that turns to the opposite, that Sauron was the good guy. One author that just wrote a more marxist variant of the lord of the rings, for which Sauron is the protagonist I think. The other was written by a feminist author that wanted to describe a tragic fantasy story, for which the good guys(which are the equivalent of Sauron's army) tragically loses the war against the divine status quo.
wow...cleaver
Lmao
I failed Uni but glad I made my biggest essay about DIY culture, Penny, Consumerism and Crass.
Great to see. Premon ,Crass. Thanks noisy.. Keep up the good work. Shared across the schools in the global education village in jeju South Korea.
I am cowed by the fear of homelessness ...I have to claim benefits because my gardening work is not reliable enough to cover rent ,council tax ...I feel compromised by my dependence on the system I despise...a hypocrite really...I want to be a gatherer hunter , but I am in need of an intact ecosystem and the shot at a nomadic life...John Zerzan is an inspiration with the whole Future Primitivism argument...yet the reality is that it will remain an intellectual exercise... hence the depression .
I do not mean it bad but you have a comfortable bubble to occupy too Penny...best wishes... compromise is not a natural state but it is where we are.
Thanks for keeping this on clip somehow likewise crass records, one day in the future someone will look at this and change the point of view. very sophisticated.
This is rge guy the phoneys copy
what a beautiful man. thank you for your example and your philosophy Penny. It seems like you life a peaceful and patient life despite the complex of humanity. I think I may have found my way of living! now just to find it for myself,, I recently discovered the poems of Wilfred Owen from the notes and. lyrics of the last Peni record, The Great War. Owen (and Blinko) conveys in his work the bittersweet sorrowjoy of living as a coincidental human on earth to the most extreme form remotely imaginable. its true art, explicitly defined- to make beauty out of horror to incite emotions to connect us across time and space.
Just discovered this band at 28. Very glad I did!
Check out behind enemy lines, paragraf119, aus rotten, there are lots of bands I don’t even know of out there …
An amazing artist! An amazing thinker! I love his objectivist approach to his personal life. "Get out of your own way".
brilliant documentary piece, riveting
Synchronicity has helped me again. I needed to see this and hear this.
same now with me. strange i hadn't seen it before, crass are such a big influence on me. even more now.
thank you noisey
This guy is the realest of all. I have one of his books and it's real talk. He lives his life how you are supposed to live. But why did you guys put the wrong Crass logo in the beginning of your video?
it is weird that the snake doesn't cross through with a hard out line, took me a second to figure out what was wrong
can you suggest me one of his books to get started? much appreciated!
trop2010 i've got "last of the hippies" a great pocket size book! Quick and great read
Why not? Anything is possible. That is being a realist. Seeing that the impossible is possible.
There’s no way to live man just your way to live, man
what an enlightened individual.
I love this. I have a Crass button on my back pack haha. I love this band and him, I missed my old punk days lol
Its not over till its over love.
Brilliant! Long live anarchy
He looks well fit in mind body and soul.
More people need to hear this
Penny Rimbaud and David Tibet are my favorite Artsy people in the subculture
Dope video.
great insight
This was amazing! Please do an Eve Libertine interview next! :D
you have a lovely home and garden
Crass is definitely one of the greatest punk bands
IM going to come visit you soon Penny
@Noisey What is the title of the music at 6.21. Thank you for sharing.
Penny I love you!
Nice.
Love peace and anarchy.
What book called get out of your own way is the he has? There are a few books that share that name and I want to know specifically what that one is. Author etc. Thanks :)
Roger Waters very similar and very different. Both their experiences of war and insights are so interesting.
Fight Wars Not War!
It's lyrics to a Crass song you peasant
It's also not a "war". It's fighting the ideology of war. Jeez!
The lyric is Fight war, not wars.
Its fight war not wars lol
Yes Ba Ba !
can anybody tell me what type of art that is in the thumbnail
what category does it fit to
where can I find more
punk
Does anyone know the name of the modern classical piece starting at 6:21?
It’s beautiful
Who composed the music on What Passing Bells? Was it just Penny, or did the 3 of them collaborate on the music composing?
the music there is improvised
haha! Thanks for that intro
fuck me
I saw Crass 3 times in the early 80’s. As a youngster I was impressed more by their image and aesthetic rather than the music. Looking back and reading the lyrics, they strike me as rather a misanthropic bunch. The dumb, blind masses wanting to get married, own their own home, educate their kids, enjoy xmas etc really seemed to rile them.
Penny’s just an elderly upper middle class gentleman, living in his country house, avoiding the hoi polloi.
@TTFPouyi “Normie” Ha!
they were just anti-consumerist, not that misanthropic. haven't you heard of anarchism?
Looking back on it now I've come to realise that it was precisely the misanthrophic aspect of Crass that appealed to me. I grew up in an ugly soul-destroying hick town surrounded by "the dumb, blind masses" - boring, obnoxious, ignorant stupid people who couldn't even imagine a life outside of their stagnant little pond. I also now live in the country as far away from the hoi polloi as possible and I don't make any apologies for it: the last time that rabble got into power we ended up with the Third Reich. Merry Crassmas!
@@solitarianihilista1454
Looking at that statement, it appears that you’re closer to the Third Reich yourself than you care to admit.
@@Azafell Had it ever occurred to them that some people may enjoy consuming?
Why not include music credits in the description? I think it'll be impossible for me to find the piece without it.
Lo pueden traducir a español los subtitulos por favor? :D
Anyone know when/where one could acess the readings he was recording here?
It was performed live as part of an art exhibition on 'the landscapes of the Somme'. Don't think it is available otherwise.
Damn. Thanks anyways mate.
If you can download and edit the video, you'd probably be able to cut the recordings out and convert them to MP3, or just convert the whole video to MP3 through an online converter and just listen to the beginning
good
love Penny
After many months of planning, we are happy to share with the world- the first of 2 episodes we recorded with Terrorizer writer/musician/author of several books on UK Punk/Metal Ian Glasper on the late 70s UK Anarcho Punk scene. Amebix, Crass, Conflict, Antisect, Subhumans, Rudimentary Peni & many more surprises! podcruncher.co/play/4Aw6
17:48 to 18:45
Labels 🏷 denial of labels is what penny is advocating to many isms one is 2 many too many labels 🏷labels are denials of your own denial
I am profoundly anti-left - but I admire guys like this.
People like this were brave and stuck to what they believed, irrespective of the reactions they provoked. It takes guts to stand up to the crowd.
The modern left has cultural control and it is usually the left's opponents who fear standing up to their version of common sense. Power is a promiscuous thing and all can wield it; Rimbaud knows he had little. I hope he can view the contemporary left and see how much power it has and how readily it misuses that power.
“Liberals” are not leftists. Not trying to get into a RUclips argument with you, but if actual leftists had the level of control you claim, the world would be very different.
@@cardigansarecool Leftist ideas dominate - as they have always done - by infiltration into the mainstream. Liberals, I am afraid, are leftist carriers - as are conservatives. This is modern politics. If you look at what we may call normie politics and culture, it's full of diversity, equality and inclusion along with a host of Epicurean ideas - whether or not they're compatible.
What you want os a 'pure' form of leftism - which can never exist because humans won't tolerate the delusion of a 'pure form of socialism' any more than they'll tolerate a 'pure race'. All ideas are connected and or interconnected and it's silly to pretend otherwise. There's no left-right scale with the socialist being toe polar opposite of the Nazi.
The left or 'the left' now dominates using any and every idea possible. Perhaos the right dominates and they do the compromise to the left thing? I suppose it depends on your view.
This is what happens when you gain control in societies that need consent. Tories worked this out by the late 18th century - the 'intellectually superior' left still haven't even noticed the problems.
@TTFPouyi Who? Crass?
Or are you talking about the left's social worker auxiliary brigade and the like ? There's a lot of book festival lefties , north London leftists, lentil left - plenty such tribes.
You are being sold lies to consolidate power for people that dont care about you but are using you. 'Leftism' is the boogeyman used to bootstrap you into their ideology to do so
I'll arrest myself, thanks.
They're such "iconoclasts."
REBELLION
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Isn't it amazing that even here we have to put up with lame humor from those who still don't get it....
Eve
DOING IT STEALTHY
what the fuck??? THAT INTRO THO
That's Penny reading the poetry of Wilfred Owen with musical accompaniment. Didn't you watch the video?
Does he still poop in a bucket tho'?
and buddha keeps laughing
🐼Dat fuck all, is getting juiced on cbd. #trippedoutanddrapedupononemlbullets
Circle A.
film interupted by advert of vacuous idiots using tik tok. ironic
español?
Sounds like a horror movie.
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Сrass is the best punk band ever.
Russ Hl sarcasm right? punk and crass in the same sentence haha
john shaftnasty wtf are you talking about?
crass is one of the biggest curses to punk music, its total crap.
i just see this type of "artsy" political shit as killing punk. these elitist types have their head so far up there ass they forgot how to rock n roll . Mostly upper middle class/rich kids who think they're going to change the world, and are smug about it. More then half my life ive dedicated to this culture, and all ive seen these types do is cause more segregation then the unity they preach. as special duties says, fight crass not punk.
yes thats very true, it was supposed to be about freedom of thought and expression. Typically though, at least with the super anarcho types, they are always the most controlling and decide who gets booked, etc. ive had many experiences with previous bands of mine dealing with these ego-maniacs. If your politics arent pure anarchist, or you see things from both sides (politically, socially, etc) you get chewed out, labeled and banned lol Anarchy is a joke and most if not all those who preach it wouldnt last a second in a government downfall. They cant farm, fight, or do anything constructive short of begging for change and refusing to shower. I went through that phase and quickly saw how hypocritical it was, it was like the jocks in high school, rediculous. Punk is way more then one ideology, and those who want to keep it a one track, smug mindset (crass types) are the ones who will never see change. I liked Crass back when i was ypung, but i was tired of being preached too, and the fact they never made more then a few actual songs, it was easy to turn off the hippy crap. uk82, oi, thats the voice of our class.
Never Trust A Hippy
Crass are hippies.
Hippie is still around and relevant, Rainbow gathering, burning man... Punk is stall, corporate and dead, Vans tour?! Wtf.
You ment "were" hippies. but no, not really...and who gives a fuck. fuck off!
shut up you tit
I've always wondered about it, what is a hippy? please define.
He starts talking about Crass at the 10:40 mark... #YoureWelcome
This isn’t always true of everyone about the “there is no authority but yourself” philosophy! What about people who’ve been shoved about all their lives from pillar to post and haven’t had the chance to think for themselves, Or work out what is it I really want to do with my life? Sometimes privilege may have something to do with it Penny don’t you think?!
"The way in which a man accepts his fate and all the suffering it entails, the way in which he takes up his cross, gives him ample opportunity--even under the most difficult circumstance--to add a deeper meaning to his life.
He may remain brave, dignified and unselfish. Or in the bitter fight for self-preservation he may forget his human dignity and become no more than animal. Here lies the chance for a man either to make use of or to forego the opportunities of attaining the moral values that a difficult situation might afford him. And this decides whether he is worthy of his sufferings or not."
-Viktor Frankl, Mans Search for Meaning
Fvck society's pretenses
🐼#imkrass
I am the only authority is a poor philosophy. Authority means to give rights, orders and to enforce obedience. That simply means I am enslaving myself. Lose our little self importance.
Tell that to the "slave" that tried to free themselves
honestly, saying "thats their business, not your business" referring to the police and laws and the entire judicial system sounds like a very white privileged statement. tell that to the poor black communities in america that are terrorized and murdered by the police on a daily basis. there is no ignoring that or simply not acknowledging it. it is there in your face 24/7.
I agree. Not everyone can live off grid and be unharrassed by the system. I think he's abit up his own arse.
Media slave
Problem with victimhood is that it creates its own oppressive states of psychological imprisonment. Living on your own and blah blah blah? Was my dad being harassed and ultimately killed by the fed in Waco with my brothers and sisters first being tortured and endlessly mistreated and lied to beyond the abuses people even care to recount white privilege. You really need to start recognizing class struggle and stop dividing things into race and gender because it perpetuates the very oppression you claim to hate.
Pete's Guitar Lessons TV that’s not what that means. Can you perhaps entertain another potential connotation or denotation that would have you arrive at a more sensible conclusion instead of assuming I’m essentially the dummy you wish me to be. That’s just asinine. This platform is infinitely more, though less and less thanks to the media I’m referring to and it’s entities, accessible to perspectives that aren’t limited to the mental plantation of the legacy media and the inherent racism and oppressive stipulative definitions words like racism and even white cull... it is a fine display of using the initial good intentions and recognition of good will against everyone. But yeah let’s just beg the question without any recognition of actual ratios and stats and anecdotes or false narratives and where actual violence outside potential which is the worst kind of evil one can exploit in the other: In the end, looking above, haha I don’t think you and I were in disagreement.
Pete's Guitar Lessons TV yeah I wasn’t talking to you sir. I was talking to the person repeating the common pseudo liberal narrative of victimhood stagnation
What about the Supreme Being? The origin of all origins? The cause of all causes? Of course there is an authority beyond the self.
bIg HilL so what about the fucker. I don’t give a toss
Lost soul.
why? what the hell do you mean by that..
@@Azafell What part don’t you understand? It’s all right here in this sharing in this video.
@@vslurk i think it comes out negative. i don't think he's lost at all, he's just very knowledgeable and talks about a variety of cloudy things which some may perceive as being "lost". maybe just an outstanding individual. crass were really something different and he was always the most outspoken of them.
Great Psycho-babble 😂
what a waste of time
***** That doesn't make any sense, but okay
***** Yeah, exactly
what the fuck is this lol
its a little documentary on a legend of punk rock
It's called a different perspective. You should try to see things from another person's point of view.
A legend of punk rock? Seems like the guy doesn't gaf about music.
bebopbountyhead it's because he's old AF
Punk folk
fight crass, not punk!
YOU FUCKING DO BETTER THAN THEY DID YOU SELF CENTRED MEANINGLESS TAIL CHASING BLIND MOUSE. FIGHT YOU NOT CRASS WHILE YOUR SITTING ON YOUR ASS. TAKE YOUR SHADES OFF AND TAKE A LOOK AT YOURSELF YOUR JUST THE SAME OLD SHIT COVERED WITH A LAYER OF TALCUM POWDER LOL YOURE ALREADY DEAD MUCKER!! :)
Someone with shades on telling someone else to take there shades off. Oh the irony lol
He's got shades on because They Live. You sleep.
Boring.