Rhythm Heaven DS - Maxing Octopus Machine's Tempo
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- Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
- I said would finish this in August 2020...
...Merry Christmas everyone!
If you don't know what's going on:
Rhythm Heaven (2008) for the Nintendo DS has a minigame where you play as an octopus in a trio. You complete the rhythmic patterns played by the other octopuses. Throughout this minigame, the tempo gets progressively faster to the point where frame-perfect inputs are needed to continue. However, it's not infinite.
I already made a TAS covering this in 2018, but it had issues; I go over that in the in-video text commentary.
Old video (August 2018): • [OUTDATED] Rhythm Heav...
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*[Additional commentary]*
- Flow is a lot better but still not perfect; I've listened to the BGM far too many times for me to keep optimizing with sanity though.
- Because the early levels are very slow, it's rather hard to stay on beat in creating this TAS, since there's so many frames between each beat to pick as the action frame.
- Level 8+ requires frame-perfect input to get a pass on a particularly fast part. It took quite awhile to figure that out during the TAS creation
- At game selection, there's a reason why I had to shift page to get to the "other stuff" button. This TAS actually uses my personal save file, which was left at that offside page. I was too lazy to fix that or download a finished save file. This also means my personal save file is on TASVideos now, since it's packed with the TAS movie file. If I did this TAS with no save file we would have to sit through the introduction, which could take a while!
Thank you for this masterpiece
Very well made, good work!
(Outdated version if you want to see it for some reason: ruclips.net/video/yki6r4ofVvI/видео.html)
Man speedran getting to the minigame
had to fulfill "speedrun" in "tool-assisted speedrun" somehow c:
@@muskit_ Technically, if not a speedrun, TAS can stand for Tool Assisted Superplay.
@@honeycrisp808 TAFS Tool Assisted Forbidden Science
Girl: "If you get to the octopus game in world record time, I'll let you try anal"
OP: "LET'S FVCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!"
@honeycrisp you also have another alternative: TAP, Tool-Assisted Playthrough
As much as i tried i couldn't get past the 7th one, i guess that's impossible for humans
I got past it, I have a video on Reddit of it
@@BerdlyGaming Alright, where is it?
@@Blankult I got to the point where the tempo didn’t increase at all.
@@BerdlyGaming I guess it isn't impossible then. Congrats i guess
@@Blankult Thanks, I saw this for the first time and was like “Impossible huh? Sounds like my cup of tea.”
Fastest Rhythm heaven game by a margin of *150 bpm* .
that's a lot!
Wait, what? Which one has 290 bpm?
@@noone6991 Big Rock Finish
@@choruskid1394 oh right I forgot about that
@@choruskid1394 big rock finish c, especifically
I once got to level 8 when I was a kid. It took forever and fucked my wrist up.
can i call you god now
I managed to reach level 9 when I was 10. Got stuck on 4:28 so I took a second stylus, but even then it took many tries to advance.
@@johnsnail you are the chosen one
Congratulations, you performed a frame-perfect feat!
Maybe I'll try doing it sometime, I could never get past 5 🥲
@@muskit_ me too
octopus machine is speedcore it’s confirmed
Octopus machinegun
Set speed 2x.
And you will hear mini gun sound.
There's something so hypnotic about this video
Drum guy must be on O V E R D R I V E
Wouldnt it be more accurate to maybe record the music and detect the BPM with some audio software or DAW?
Good idea... maybe I'll add a follow up to my pinned comment if I get around to trying that.
I managed to get past level 5, it was crazy hard tho and took me like a half hour on just the final part
It goes from chill drums to through the fire and flames' drums
Alternative Title: man speedruns octopus machine
I'm making TASes for Rhythm Heaven DS on DeSmuME, and I have a 3 frame delay in inputs. Is there a solution to this?
I just worked with it; it didn't bother me very much with my method of creating this TAS. Hope to see what you make!
clearing the fastest set only nets you “Good!” compliment
I'm at level 8 where you have to tap once then tap-flick and im losing my mind. I can't physically get past it
If you're talking about 4:28, I had to setup the inputs there to be FRAME PERFECT... like move any of them off by one frame and it fails. Even the flick swipe had to be extremely quick, and it took me a little bit to find the right frames.
This minigame is ruthless.
Great video! One thing that kind of bothered me though was your method of finding the true tempo, as it’s actually ambiguous; a small range of possible tempos would return the same “true tempo” under that method, some of them only barely squeezing in the right number of beats and others only barely missing what would be an extra beat
The rattlesnake beats on Rhythm Doctor (another game) really remind me of this minigame
I thought the same thing! Now add flicking the release to rhythm doctor
I like your pfp
@@purplpasta I can barely handle hitting a single button let alone moving a mouse
videos like these are fun to play along with, but there comes a point when u just can NOT keep up, and thats the best part lmao
Remembered this video after playing a bit of RH ds and took me maybe around 7-8 minutes to get past level 8+
Even had to check this video to confirm if the bpms match.
The margin for error is very slim but possible!
Now imagine lockstep with this
2:08 Thought it was about to turn into the Evil Twins theme from Crash Twinsanity.
4:43 def seems completely impossible for a real person to do
It is frame-perfect, though it looks like people in the comments say they've gotten past it!
How do these poor Octopuses even breathe?
this one HAUNTS ME ... i wish it didnt max out, I think I repeated the highest level twice before realizing it wasnt increasing in speed anymore T__T
Octopus Machine->Turbo Octopuses
First time I did this I got to the beginning of 4
I have no rhythm so that made me very happy. I even managed to get to 6 or 7
Nowadays I probably wouldn't be able to get to 3 anymore :p
at the end is not a rhythm anymore
I just got to level 10! Greatest accomplishment of my life
damn i couldn't get past level 2
Almost fucked my finger up playing this game today 🗿
muskit, you are a god!
Extratone Octopus
Watch at x2 speed for maximum pleasure
Patterns:
1. Tap, tap, tap, release, release, release
2. Tap, tap, tap, flick, flick, flick
3. Tap, flick, tap, flick, tap, flick
4. Tap, tap, flick, tap, tap, flick, tap, tap, flick
5. Tap, release, tap, tap, release, tap, tap, release, tap, flick, flick, flick
6. Tap, tap, tap, flick, flick, flick
7. Tap, flick, tap, flick, tap, flick, tap, tap, tap, flick, flick, flick
(Although patterns 2 and 6 are the same pattern, pattern 6's tapping is done later than that of pattern 2)
i can just barely get to lvl 11
Makes me want to retire to glass tappers 🥶 Amazing work
thank you for uploading this :D I love the drums in this minigame. Some of my favorite patterns.
Man, this game looks perfect for Megamix.
I couldn't get past 6-3
Love these little fellas
is madness
Why wasn't this a full game?
4:26
Someday...
Someday I'll do it...
Poslao ja ne znam
Difference in times from True to Internal bpm
Level 1: True + 0.5 = Internal
Level 2: True + 0.55 = Internal
Level 3: True + 0.8 = Internal
Level 4: True + 0.7 = Internal
Level 5: True + 0.7 = Internal
Level 6: True + 1.7 = Internal
Level 7: True + 1.1 = Internal
Level 8+: True + 2.5 = Internal
Internal BPMs/BPSs
Level 1: 110/1.833
Level 2: 137/2.283
Level 3: 171/2.850
Level 4: 214/3.566
Level 5: 268/4.666
Level 6: 335/5.583
Level 7: 419/6.983
Level8+: 440/7.333
Parodius's Octopus?
probably the most underrated or unknown rhythm heaven game
5:26
I only ever got to 6 and just considered it was impossible after that lol
my friend, "109.5 BPM" is not helpful information at all
it may be ACCURATE, but it's not... good? adam neely has a video on BPMs with decimal values
*"I am so suspicious of tempos with decimal points in them because to me it represents someone who's more concerned with being precise and right, rather than musical."*
I remember thinking about that too while making this video. When I found out about the tempo being stored in RAM I was originally going to just display what value was being stored there. I did the extra work because I noticed a tempo difference between what's tracked and what I calculated -- I played the tempo tracked in RAM on my metronome and it drifted quite quickly. I wanted to highlight that in someway.
Perhaps I could've rounded (it would've looked cleaner in hindsight), but *I was going at this from the perspective of a programmer-like analysis, in which I was more concerned with getting it right.* My main goal at the time was also to get the tempo precise enough to play it on a metronome and not have it drift when playing along with the video... which I admit I could've gotten easier on the precision anyway (or just not included the calculated tempo at all). I am more programmer than musician afterall
(also thx for reminding me to check out an Adam Neely vid that I missed)
@@muskit_ yeah, fair enough, i'd attribute it to the DS or emulator or whatever counting ever so slightly faster than real time
Me reaising there is 69 likes: I'm sorry my friend.
imagine if nintendo continued working on game and watch and one of the games were this
Bro how does this guy have so few subscribers (118 at the time I'm typing this, me being the 118th)
The highest I've gotten is level 6. I'm not even gonna try getting past that
I didn't even get to the highest one on my run without tas?? I hit seven and thought that was it because I couldn't get past it.
I was not able to get past number 7
yes dude! fuck up those hi hats!
Egoism 440 Intensifies
3:54 is the farthest I can get legitimately
Fastest 333.3
437.5 is the fastest BPM
COOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
4:44 hey wanna see me speedrun
F A S T O C T O
This one and the Game&Watch one, cutest octupus ever ❤
The game and watch one?
@@Movedchanelssss Look up Game & Watch Nintendo Octopus, you'll see :3
Been looking for a vid like this for Years. Wanted to just see it with TAS to the see the whole thing
W bush
2:05
~
2:17 ;)
👄👁
This goes faster than lets say the p names in project diva
God