Shogun Season 2 CONFIRMED by FX!

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  • Опубликовано: 16 июн 2024
  • Let’s talk about the recent news regarding Shogun Season 2, whether the show should or should NOT have a second season, what the plot of the new episodes would be about, and who would return from Season 1.
    00:00 Intro
    00:47 Season 2 Renewal
    02:02 Season 2 Plot
    04:17 Should Season 2 Happen?
    #shogun #shogunfx #shogun2
    Shogun characters' fates after the Shogun finale: • SHOGUN: Each Character...
    Shogun cast facts: • Shogun Cast: 7 Surpris...
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  • @thenextseason
    @thenextseason  Месяц назад +1

    IT'S CONFIRMED GUYS! FX IS WORKING ON SHOGUN SEASON 2 & 3!

  • @tkelker
    @tkelker Месяц назад +212

    Toranga probably planned season 2 before season 1

    • @peterlee6391
      @peterlee6391 Месяц назад +7

      Considering how Sanada really wanted to promote Japanese culture and history, I'd say this is probably true :))

    • @586bomin
      @586bomin Месяц назад +2

      I think they are going to pull from actual history

    • @ahmarelvirgio823
      @ahmarelvirgio823 Месяц назад

      ​@@586bomin yeah I agree that's the only source of material that available. They can make Ueda castle siege 1st and 2nd or the Osaka siege 1st and 2nd

    • @ahmarelvirgio823
      @ahmarelvirgio823 Месяц назад

      ​@@586bomin yeah I agree that's the only source of material that available. They can make Ueda castle siege 1st and 2nd or the Osaka siege 1st and 2nd

    • @chilly6470
      @chilly6470 Месяц назад +4

      😂😂😂Nobody else getting the joke!.....

  • @jsprite123
    @jsprite123 Месяц назад +52

    Fuji-sama didn't die in the first season, we really want to see her back again!

    • @wishforworldpeace
      @wishforworldpeace Месяц назад +2

      She was the only reason I watched the show
      lmao

    • @patgray5402
      @patgray5402 Месяц назад +6

      Best girl

    • @cameronmac8928
      @cameronmac8928 Месяц назад

      ​@@wishforworldpeace well that's a bit sad. She was the ONLY reason?

    • @maroz1905
      @maroz1905 Месяц назад

      @@wishforworldpeace xd are u stupid, she had basically no screen time

    • @thenextseason
      @thenextseason  Месяц назад +2

      Yes I'd love to see her as well ❤

  • @mubbles1066
    @mubbles1066 Месяц назад +17

    It should be left as a near perfect one off tv experience.

    • @chilly6470
      @chilly6470 Месяц назад +2

      Unless, it turns out great.
      Either way, as a business decision, they'd be crazy not to cash in on its success.

    • @bvbxiong5791
      @bvbxiong5791 Месяц назад +2

      while i enjoyed the show, i wasn't sold on the ending...precisely because i know the history and just having a flash forward of Sekigahara was lame. sure we closed out the story of big characters, but there's still alot of characters and stories that can be told and if the ultimate goal is the siege of Osaka, Toronaga and Ochiba's relationship and mental chess match needs to be played out (and the ultimate bingo card should be that Toronaga knows Ochiba's secret). Blackthorne had a strong start but then faded. Blackthorne can have a major role again if they explore how he historically taught Japan to build the first european-style ship, how he established trade with other european powers other than the Portuguese, give him a happy love story cause he married a Japanese wife (i think this and the actor that plays his wife will be crucial cause she needs to charm him and us, the audience). the battle of Sekigahara hinged on the allegiance of a few key lords and one in particular turned the tide...there will be plenty of political drama to explore in season 2. there are big, big figures in Japanese history involved that can be explored like: Hattori Hanzo, Miyamoto Musashi and Sanada Yukimura.

  • @dailyqwikbytes
    @dailyqwikbytes Месяц назад +25

    It could be great, it could be terrible. It could be a prequel, it could be a sequel. Only time will tell. I hope it's a prequel so we have more Anna Sawai. Shogun II. The Rise of Toranaga.

    • @chilly6470
      @chilly6470 Месяц назад +1

      They'd have to use cgi to make Toronaga look younger then, though.

    • @dailyqwikbytes
      @dailyqwikbytes Месяц назад

      @@chilly6470 Fortunately, doing so is rapidly getting cheaper and more effective.

    • @thenextseason
      @thenextseason  Месяц назад

      But if it's a prequel taking place in Japan, then it would mean no John Blackthorne :(

    • @dailyqwikbytes
      @dailyqwikbytes Месяц назад

      @@thenextseason Who you want? Blackthorne or Mariko. Make mine Anna.

    • @timstarkes173
      @timstarkes173 Месяц назад

      I want to see the Shogun and Queen of the British formally meet.

  • @ntan
    @ntan Месяц назад +61

    If they don’t bring back Mariko-sama as a ghost or zombie i’m not watching

    • @federicomanueldavila9853
      @federicomanueldavila9853 Месяц назад +11

      Oh man. She died. Move on.

    • @lowkeehkis2454
      @lowkeehkis2454 Месяц назад +3

      😂😂😂. Maybe it’s a prequel!

    • @davidlin4000
      @davidlin4000 Месяц назад +8

      Don’t worry, they will find her twin sister 😂

    • @gilcorrea283
      @gilcorrea283 Месяц назад +8

      Spoilers: They will Find the 7 dragon balls and bring her back.

    • @patgray5402
      @patgray5402 Месяц назад +3

      I didn't see no body.

  • @sarahsmith1116
    @sarahsmith1116 Месяц назад +10

    As long as Mr. Sanada is on board for a second season then I am too without a doubt!!!!!!!!!!❤❤

  • @nyjazzman
    @nyjazzman Месяц назад +9

    Plenty of left over characters. The question isn’t whether they can, but rather should they?

  • @michaelallen3894
    @michaelallen3894 Месяц назад +21

    It's not necessary unless they are going to follow the actual history

    • @j.f.l.bousquet1998
      @j.f.l.bousquet1998 Месяц назад +2

      There's no such thing as "necessary" TV shows. Not a single TV show has ever been necessary. There's only good ones or bad ones. If the 2nd season is half as good as the 1rst, I'm OK.

    • @thenextseason
      @thenextseason  Месяц назад +1

      I think they will follow the historica events but I doubt it will be as good as what James Clavell created with Shogun

  • @ssranon
    @ssranon Месяц назад +4

    If they do S2, I want to see a lot more scenes with Rodriguez. Such an amazing frenemy character! And Blackthorne should really end up with Fuji. She's awesome! She risked her own life for Blackthorne by pointing those pistols to defend the house. Smart, brave, loyal, and beautiful.

  • @mangtaz4208
    @mangtaz4208 Месяц назад +6

    I mean, they have real history as basis for a season 2.

  • @Gwilherm
    @Gwilherm Месяц назад +19

    Season 2 was the true Crimson Sky after all!

  • @stealthshinobi3310
    @stealthshinobi3310 Месяц назад +19

    Its based of sengoku era and tokugawa eiasu so they can use that

    • @Josh-nn3xt
      @Josh-nn3xt Месяц назад +5

      The beats of the story yes, but they won’t have Clavell’s masterful writing.

    • @thedieusaf7108
      @thedieusaf7108 Месяц назад +3

      @@Josh-nn3xt Exactly this, its not the history that made it this good, its ONLY the writing

    • @DBCuzitis
      @DBCuzitis Месяц назад +3

      @@Josh-nn3xtYep! No more novel means they will have to make up new stuff on the fly. That almost never works out well.

    • @Amatsuichi
      @Amatsuichi Месяц назад

      plenty of historical facts and storylines they could follow, its easier to do than Game of thrones... lets see

    • @thedieusaf7108
      @thedieusaf7108 Месяц назад

      @@Amatsuichi I could agree fx have more to go on the GoT had, but still, the writer either makes it a history lession or a griping good story

  • @Josh-nn3xt
    @Josh-nn3xt Месяц назад +15

    Shogun’s adaptation was a masterpiece. A continuation will most likely water it down. All good things come to an end. Greed kills all.

    • @dahlionn2119
      @dahlionn2119 Месяц назад +1

      But maybe they don’t actually do a shogun season 2 but instead another show set in a different time that could work i think

  • @avfx
    @avfx Месяц назад +1

    tbh the blackthorn character the show is base on IRL William Adams lived an epic life and indeed there is much much more to the story than the book covered.

  • @drakesawesome13
    @drakesawesome13 Месяц назад +3

    there is actually source material based on actual history, it just has to be written property for TV

  • @jennamicieli2931
    @jennamicieli2931 Месяц назад

    I wish it just remained a miniseries. It was so good. I can’t imagine it being nearly as good.

  • @VS257
    @VS257 Месяц назад +3

    Umm... did people forget that Clavell's source material is the actual 300 years of Tokugawa history in Japan? There's your source material right there 😂

  • @CarlBudrecki
    @CarlBudrecki 28 дней назад

    I think as long as the quality & accuracy to detail of the Clavell estate are kept & put into the second season, it will be worth watching.

  • @dirk2058
    @dirk2058 Месяц назад +1

    whooop whooooooop...... glad they are continuing with the story....

  • @Calinotch06
    @Calinotch06 Месяц назад

    YES! I prayed for this.

  • @jaioxung
    @jaioxung Месяц назад

    Considering that Shogun was based on historical events there IS source material. Hopefully they flesh it out well.

  • @atabo3641
    @atabo3641 29 дней назад

    The model for Shogun existed. That is Ieyasu Tokugawa. He had two major wars in his later years, so there are enough episodes to make Season 2.

  • @thenextseason
    @thenextseason  Месяц назад

    Since a lot of people are saying the same thing, here's more info: when I say there's no source material, I mean a book, like James Clavell's novel, with all the plots laid out and characters ready. I know there's a lot of history that can be adapted, but that's a lot more difficult to do than a book, which already has everything planned out. If they are basing the second season on real history, then good luck because that's going to be a tough job for the writers. That doesn't mean I don't have hope though. I think they can do a good job if they give themselves enough time and not rush it like many others do. Love you guys thanks for the comments ❤

  • @sugargame
    @sugargame Месяц назад +3

    Season 2 will definitely mean flashback scenes to show the storylines left out from Season 1 and there's a lot of them. They left out so much from the book. It also means a drawn out action scene of the battle at Sekigahara although the book only described it in a single sentence in the last paragraph of the book. It's going to turn out a disaster I'm sure.

  • @Senovitj
    @Senovitj Месяц назад +1

    If season 2 is bad, we still have season 1. If it's great, we got two epic seasons. Win-win.

  • @MDUltra1999
    @MDUltra1999 Месяц назад

    I tweeted this too. I'm hyped but at the same time I cried when the finale came. Leaving me saying to myself do I want Season 2? I get both sides and even if it's no inspiration from the other books. I'm curious as to what new stuff they can bring up. It's 50/50 as it should be
    Shogun became my favorite show of all time. I just hopes it shocks people again when S2 come around

  • @Vanic00
    @Vanic00 Месяц назад +2

    I wouldn't mind a season 2, especially since so much of the political intrigue with the church, and the black ship was left out. I know they mentioned Mariko's deal, but it was wrapped up too quickly. A second season would allow that plot to develop and allow more scenes with Rodriguez, who was criminally under shown. Also, as you mentioned, i think the climax of the show would have to be the Siege of Osaka, Ochiba would not just let Toranaga become Shogun, over her son, the would be second Taiko. But the final episode would need to be a small time lapse to when the Emperor invited Toranaga to become Shogun.
    To be honest, there could even be a potential third season, if they wanted to do a story centered around the Shimabara Rebellion, which happened only 37 years after Sekigahara.

  • @tuluvota
    @tuluvota Месяц назад +5

    they will come up with something and we’ll like it 🤷🏾

    • @mitjed
      @mitjed Месяц назад +2

      Like the actual detailed battle of sekigahara, a full episode special, and the demise of Ishido.

    • @tuluvota
      @tuluvota Месяц назад

      @@mitjed yess. hopefully all that

    • @thenextseason
      @thenextseason  Месяц назад

      Fingers crossed!

    • @rickDArula
      @rickDArula Месяц назад

      It's a no for me, it completely will contradict the ending of the first season. Just let it go man. Smh this is how nice things get ruined

  • @Triring65
    @Triring65 Месяц назад +2

    There is no source material from Clavell but you have the actual Japanese history on Miura Anjin who "Naturalized" to Japan which is more rich than Clavell's novel.

  • @dougevans54
    @dougevans54 Месяц назад +1

    History has written the second Season

  • @TangoNevada
    @TangoNevada Месяц назад +1

    This is source material. Actual History. Just change the names and make adjustments to keep it engaging.

  • @jwxujerry
    @jwxujerry Месяц назад

    Season 2 can be a mixture of prequel and sequel, which tells the early years of main characters in season 1, to bring back our favorites who were killed, and the events after season 1 to introduce new characters. This crew is good at story telling so there is a chance that they can produce another successful season.
    When HBO’s Big Liitle Lies announced season 2, I was very skeptical but season 2 turned out to be even better than the already on-top season one. So I am hopeful for S2 of Shogun,

  • @ikik1648
    @ikik1648 Месяц назад +1

    The move they pulled is so meta lol

  • @NedSilverman-dh2hb
    @NedSilverman-dh2hb Месяц назад

    I’m stoked. This team is genius. They can do anything. Go back in time w blackthorn and pre season one in Japan.In depth look at battle. Post shogun Christian purge. The Macao story and silver mining in Columbia. It endless. I could write four seasons. Pieces of eight. Mongol invasion. As long as it’s this team it won’t be crappy fight scenes every ten seconds. I’ve watched every episode 8 times and I’m not tired of it. I almost committed sepuku when it was over so there’s that too. I need this.

  • @24X7CARZ
    @24X7CARZ Месяц назад +3

    Flower has fallen. Leave it alone.
    Either they’re gonna have to make up a very fictitious version of the early Toranaga/Tokugawa Shogunate (since the rest of that character’s/person’s life is not particularly eventful), or they could go with a prequel that focuses on events like the initial unification of Japan and the ascent of the taiko (this could at least justify bringing back many of the popular characters from season 1).
    Personally, I vote for an option 1 crossover involving an adaptation intersecting the end of _Shogun_ with the events portrayed in _Lone Wolf and Cub_ . The _LW&C_ timeline could be adjusted to the beginning of the Edo period with Ogami Itto losing then regaining the favor of Toranaga (differing from the plot of _LW&C_ ). This would also give other amazing Japanese actors their turn in the Hollywood spotlight.

    • @dahlionn2119
      @dahlionn2119 Месяц назад +1

      I hope they leave it at the end that being said a nother season could work perfectly if they go for another time period and new story

    • @24X7CARZ
      @24X7CARZ Месяц назад

      @@dahlionn2119 - I agree. But because the expectation is that Sanada will return as Toranaga, it has to be set within the same general time period and be an extension of the story told in season 1.

  • @michaelmunno
    @michaelmunno Месяц назад

    assuming non-linear progression, there's a lot of room to fill in gaps and time jump all over the place with Season 2. opening the door for all characters to be a part of Season 2, not just those who were still alive at the end of the last episode of Season 1. Whatever they choose to do, if it is as beautiful as Season 1, and the scripts and acting as well done, I will be in. If there will be more FUJI-sama, I am 100% all in! I truly fell in love with her, I think there's a lot more story to be told just with her character alone. I am happy to hear about a Season 2, I felt I could watch that world on and on, so beautiful. as a die-hart Tolkien fan, I learned long ago to try to let go of what I expect to see on screen vs source material. It will rarely ever be exactly what you want nor expect. let it go. enjoy this artists version of the world you came to know in other ways.

  • @DBCuzitis
    @DBCuzitis Месяц назад +1

    On the plus side, if a season 2 turns out bad (as I expect) it won’t hurt season 1 too much. Since season 1 is great as a stand alone I can easily dismiss and forget a bad season 2. Think of all the direct-to-video sequel movies that have been made over the years. They may be hard to watch, especially if you love the original movie, but they are easy to forget or even skip. 🙃

  • @obryn
    @obryn Месяц назад

    It should have a 2nd season but should be based on history with some fictitious intricate drama weaving through the main plot leading to the sekigahara battle

  • @DBCuzitis
    @DBCuzitis Месяц назад +1

    It feels like a very very bad idea. The series was based on thick novel and had already been adapted into a mini-series once before in the 80s. They started with a great and deep story to draw from and examples from the eighties that it could work on television. Not only that they started working on it back in 2018!! A great production company, great sets and costumes, even great actors need a great script from which to work if they want something good at the end. They do not have a story anymore and worse they will be on a time crunch to get a second season thrown together too. I fear a second season won’t only be less but bad bad bad.

  • @OitaOscar
    @OitaOscar Месяц назад

    The Siege of Osaka Castle has been made into multiple excellent TV series in Japan. The script is already there. There is plenty of source material.

  • @bigcomcast
    @bigcomcast Месяц назад

    There is the real history of William Adams The base for John Blackthorne's character. And what Toranaga said at the end of shogun. And Blackthorn is mentioned in other Clavell novels like Gai- Jin And Tai Pan.

  • @tbonsz
    @tbonsz Месяц назад

    Agree with you on lack of source material. Loved the show. Let's move on.

  • @lilwoo2034
    @lilwoo2034 Месяц назад

    If they are really gonna make season 2 I wish they follow along that "dream" metaphor they did in the last episode and bring Mariko back plsssss

  • @richt63
    @richt63 Месяц назад

    Actually, they skipped a lot of content from the book. That they didn't explored and adapted in this adaptation. Such as the relationship between Toranaga and his other son. Or Blackthorne and Fuji (Fujiko in the Novel)'s relationship. And his marriage to Kiku-san in the novel. So they do have some source material from the book to do a sequel of sorts. Great video ❤

  • @Milton2k
    @Milton2k Месяц назад +1

    4:58 No, there a lot of series which peak reached much later, or sequels that are better than the original. Aliens and Empire Strikes Back, Terminator 2 comes to mind. Yet for sure that is the norm, yet not ALWAYS.

  • @nehukybis
    @nehukybis Месяц назад

    This is awesome! Let's discuss what should definitely happen in Season 2. (Spoilers for anyone who hasn't finished season 1):
    1. Killing off popular characters was definitely a terrible idea, serieswise. But are they really dead? My idea for the series 2 twist is that some shadowy figure is behind the council of regents, pulling the strings. Big reveal... it's Mariko! MIND BLOWN. As in, her mind was blown. The explosion gave her brain damage, and now she's crazy. Crazy sexy!
    2. The fan favorite of course was Tadanobu Asano. Gotta bring him back, of course. Unfortunately, he wasn't just singed by an explosion, he was flat out decapitated on screen. But what if he had an identical twin? You could say the twin was the one who was beheaded, but if we bring back too many characters who were killed in season 1 it might get stale. So instead, have Tadanobu play the twin in season 2. Only he's the good twin, of course. So you'd have a Loki thing going on where you take a villain played by a popular actor and turn them into a hero, for the fans.
    3. More Ninja!
    4. At least one scene where two female samurai fight each other. Barefoot.
    5. Dare I say it... Kaiju?
    6. At least one actual battle. Is that too much to ask?
    With Kaiju.
    7. Better costumes
    8. I really want to see the hijinks that ensue with that mission in Edo that's next door to a brothel.

  • @gn-z1130
    @gn-z1130 Месяц назад +4

    It's rather interesting from a historical point of view to come.
    We could film the real Osaka Castle in Japan and the bells of Hokoji Temple.
    Season 1 is just the beginning.

    • @DaSphonX
      @DaSphonX Месяц назад +1

      totally ok ! even if all the book is already "seen" in the season 1, the next one could follow historical events

  • @1998rg
    @1998rg 27 дней назад

    Onboard if it’s from real history Toranaga becoming shogun, the siege of Osaka castle etc

  • @VOTEDODY
    @VOTEDODY Месяц назад

    If there is one thing that I can hold out hope for, it's that this production team and writers have a mastery of subtlety in storytelling and have done nothing but surprise and thrill me whenever I have started to doubt. However, they are really playing with fire from what I feel was a perfect season/series. I loved the book, and I possibly loved the show more, but ultimately both were a rehash of history, and there sure is a lot more interesting history and characters to cover in that era. But now they are off the track of a great novel and toying with beloved characters. I really hope they don’t just AI-generate some story arcs as a cash grab and actually do something interesting to tell the story further.
    Just an idea, but maybe they could do a season of one-off episodes filling out the characters' pasts, presents, and futures. (Kind of like the Covid interstitial episodes of Euphoria. Those two episodes were incredible character pieces and were almost the best thing out of an already pretty great show.) Toranaga's backstory and future have a ton of potential, but you could also explore Buntaro fleeing and fighting to Izu after being left in Osaka. You could depict some good Blackthorn pre-Japan sailing adventures. I also see the potential for some Mariko-Ochiba backstory or Fuji becoming a nun. A future Omi-Kiku-Gin Willow World in Edo story could have legs, and a Yabushige backstory could almost be a "Better Call Saul" series within itself.

  • @tigason232
    @tigason232 Месяц назад +1

    It is obvious that they cannot bring back Mariko because she is dead. But there are ways to bring Fuji back into the fold. Just have her pulled a 180 and change her mind and bring her back. After all, this is greenfield territory here. They can do whatever they want. Let’s jut hope the quality is just as high as season1. Otherwise, we don’t want it.

  • @MrPinballWizzard
    @MrPinballWizzard Месяц назад

    we know what happened, we know the history, its piece of cake to make next season though

  • @Amatsuichi
    @Amatsuichi Месяц назад

    if they stick to history and tell the story of what happened after Sekigahara, it could be interesting

  • @ginxgin8056
    @ginxgin8056 Месяц назад

    Since there is no second part to the novel, what I would expect is a pre-season 1 story.
    In this dorama, how the character Toranaga was created is described.
    He is modeled after a historical figure, Tokugawa Ieyasu.
    It was Mariko's father who rebelled against Oda Nobunaga in the Honnoji Incident, and the warlord who vanquished the traitor was Taikou, who was Toranaga's rival.
    This drama, which is a prelude to Season 1, allows for the reintroduction of Toranaga, Hironaga, Yabushige, and Mariko. Unfortunately, Blackthorn does not appear in this period.

  • @dahlionn2119
    @dahlionn2119 Месяц назад

    Honestly my guess would be that it wouldn’t actually be a season 2 of shogun as they are done with that story but maybe instead a new story with the same quality and set in a later or earlier time than shogun… maybe the Edo period or the Kamakura or nanbokucho period or even earlier the war between the Taira and Minamoto

    • @thenextseason
      @thenextseason  Месяц назад

      If Hiroyuki Sanada signed a deal to return as Toranaga as all the articles say, then we have to see him somehow..

  • @sherabdorjee4966
    @sherabdorjee4966 Месяц назад

    Sanada Nobushige i want to see hus back story too

  • @mugennsx
    @mugennsx Месяц назад

    If it's the same team we can have some confidence

  • @ahmarelvirgio823
    @ahmarelvirgio823 Месяц назад

    Are we gonna see the Siege of Osaka castle and Sanadamaru defense by Yukimura ?

  • @VOTEDODY
    @VOTEDODY Месяц назад

    Challenge to the writers of Shōgun Season 2: Right now I doubt… please prove us wrong!

  • @mlm5150
    @mlm5150 Месяц назад

    There actually might be some source material. Rumor has it that Clavell was working on the direct sequel to Shogun at the time of his passing. Seeing that his daughter is one of the executive producers, she would have access to this. Not sure how I feel about this however. I thought the book ended perfectly. And as much as i loved the show, the ending they had just felt empty to me. Then again, the book is one of my all time favorites, so I might have beem expecting more

  • @scottcunningham4525
    @scottcunningham4525 Месяц назад

    I agree about your comments about Yabu and Buntaro. I felt Blackthorn was written as a dullard and a smaller supporting character.

  • @InvalidAuthorization
    @InvalidAuthorization Месяц назад

    The only way this would really work is if they make it anthology and fill in gaps that the series run couldn't cover...like an extended deleted scenes run.

  • @AleHernandez
    @AleHernandez Месяц назад

    No source material from the author but maybe they can manage it to make a next chapter in the story.

  • @red_wullf
    @red_wullf Месяц назад +1

    Er, was there a 2nd book?

  • @eduardoalvarez1921
    @eduardoalvarez1921 Месяц назад

    There's actually a lot of story left. This was loosely based on real people and events. Anjin ends up setting up trade between Japan and England. He actually marries and lives long life in Japan. Buntaro actually out lived them all. Toranaga doesn't immediately become Shogun, so I think there's plenty of source if you draw from the actual history.

  • @Vegas3RSPilot
    @Vegas3RSPilot Месяц назад

    This goes against how most Jdramas are done.

  • @maggyfrog
    @maggyfrog Месяц назад

    it's really not a bad move. they'll just fictionalize real history and match it with the events in the book / season 1. if you know some of the actual historical events that unfolded, you know things are going to get crazy

  • @valkothxenoribas9715
    @valkothxenoribas9715 Месяц назад

    I agree that's no source material from the book.
    But there is Historical source material to go on for many seasons!
    Same Historical source material that the book used.
    I really missed the Sekigahara battle!
    Don't get me wrong, the final episode was FANTASTIC, it gave everything of the nuance, political, strategical, philosophical approach , that Toranaga(based on Tokugawa Ieasu), had.
    But yes, an Historical romance, crafted to perfection that has a lot to go on, if the artists involved feel that it would be good , then let's have it!

  • @OwDoRegularDave
    @OwDoRegularDave Месяц назад

    Hiroyuki Sanada - master of trickery!

  • @M1gs
    @M1gs Месяц назад +2

    why the need for a second season???

    • @mitjed
      @mitjed Месяц назад

      I am not a book lover like most viewers are, and they watched the show hoping for a big armies vs armies battle and the demise of Ishido, instead what we got was a story telling conversation and no battle, a let down for us.

  • @Katie-th3th
    @Katie-th3th Месяц назад

    I wish they could show the past events of Shogun like Star Wars, such as how Toranaga grew up. Shogun Toranaga is based on the true story of Ieyasu Tokugawa, who is the founder and first shogun of the Tokugawa Shogunate of Japan. After a long period of inner conflict, Ieyasu and his descendants created the "Pax Tokugawa," which was an era of internal peace and political stability that lasted over 250 years. When he was eight years old, Ieyasu was sent as a hostage to the Imagawa clan. Anyway, it would be very interesting to watch if Shogun Season 2 created a drama about young Ieyasu to see how the hostage boy became a strategic shogun. ruclips.net/video/NQMI6h-iNqk/видео.html

  • @steveyi1118
    @steveyi1118 Месяц назад

    If they followed history too closely and much beyond the battle of Sekigehara, a season 2 would make Toranaga go from an ambiguous character, to a really bad guy and ruin the mystery around him which was so well developed in Season 1. Unless season 2 only covered the time immediately after season 1 and was focused on and around the battle of Sekigehara, that might be epic, would be a different kind of show but would give many fans what we wanted.

  • @TokyoAlex
    @TokyoAlex Месяц назад

    There is source material:
    1. A lot of the novel was cut from the series. We saw this in The Godfather Part 2 with the Young Vito storyline. If you haven't read the novel, you are not going to believe who Anjin marries.
    2. Clavell was writing about Tokugawa Ieyasu. A team of writers can do the same. Just like Clavell, they can introduce fictional characters and not offend history buffs.
    3. The series was better than the novel. Clavell did not understand a lick of the Japanese language. If you understand Japanese, it is pretty jarring trying to read that gibberish. The writing team really cleaned up Clavell's draft and should be able to take the story into the sequel.

  • @ham6682
    @ham6682 Месяц назад +1

    Battosai will come without remorse

  • @seankrug4995
    @seankrug4995 Месяц назад

    They should have just stretched the source material over two seasons, there was plenty that they skipped over.
    Beyond the book, Osaka castle was singed for a year, 1814-15…..

  • @milescoleman910
    @milescoleman910 Месяц назад

    I believe it led to 200 plus years of peace ….so…

  • @Romoredux
    @Romoredux Месяц назад +1

    So I assume they are just going to continue to "Fictionlize" the rest of Adams life? I'd be down for that he did MORE interesting things in Japan after this exact time period (Like building them a "Western Fleet" of Ships for Japan!).

  • @michaelmertz8481
    @michaelmertz8481 Месяц назад

    Schauen wir mal, was da kommt.

  • @donteto
    @donteto Месяц назад

    FX could do another book in the series

    • @thenextseason
      @thenextseason  Месяц назад

      Hiroyuki Sanada signed a deal to return as Toranaga. I don't think the character is in another book in the series?

  • @benktlofgren4710
    @benktlofgren4710 Месяц назад

    I am thorn, season one was just brilliant! Of course, I want more, I need more. With that said, i am not sure they should not do it.
    History records of fail when you go outside of source material is huge, but hey if God Omens could do it, they even had the original source materials creators to write more. There have been many instances where going beyond the source material has failed.

  • @jello_cudgel9213
    @jello_cudgel9213 Месяц назад

    Yabushige is going to walk off his scratch/tumble so he and John can go to London and make a Feudal Hangover buddy film

  • @johnsullivan2090
    @johnsullivan2090 Месяц назад +1

    No source material? The story of Shogun is based on actual events. Clavel’s book material is completed but the story went on for decade’s

  • @faithmacgregor340
    @faithmacgregor340 Месяц назад

    I would like to see the actual war when he defeats ishido.

    • @thenextseason
      @thenextseason  Месяц назад

      A whole season on one battle? Maybe a movie would work...

  • @reddogdude
    @reddogdude Месяц назад

    You said many times that there is no more source material and I respectfully disagree. They have James Clavell’s source material - Japanese history. I easily see seasons 2 - 4 if they handle it right. Season 2 could be based on the events leading up to Tokugawa Ieyasu’s consolidation of power and being declared Shogun by the emperor in 1603. Season 3 could be about Ieyasu’s “retirement” in 1605 and season 4 could feature the fight against Lady Ochiba and the heir. I will really miss Mariko but they could develop another strong female character in her place. More seasons could be awful or great. It’s all going to come down to the writers - like it does for all TV and every movie.

  • @petra74
    @petra74 Месяц назад

    It is a good thing that the expectation of Season 2 is bad... hence the easier for the writers to surprise us all.

  • @TheBonsaiGarden
    @TheBonsaiGarden Месяц назад

    This is all about cashing in.

  • @timbell6870
    @timbell6870 Месяц назад

    Never in my wildest dreams would I have thought the show-runners would make a second season to this iconic show. Hard act to follow. I feel i have dishonored my T.V. instincts and mistakenly doubted Next Season. I will commit Seppuku at sundown if the second season doesn't live up to the first. (naw, not really)

    • @thenextseason
      @thenextseason  Месяц назад +1

      Like Hiromatsu said, "Why not live?"

  • @qwidium
    @qwidium Месяц назад

    Fuji is a nun, but alive.

  • @jarkoer
    @jarkoer Месяц назад

    Clavell changed the historical names so that he could take certain artistic liberties with the actual events to be able to tell a good story first and foremost for a Western audience who at the time were not familiar with Japanese history. There's a lot that can be done with that approach, but at the same time you're gambling that the writers that you have will be able to continue to tell the story of another author without alienating that same author's fans. You can point to Game of Thrones or even Kennedy's version of Star Wars. Yeah, you would still make money off of milking the franchise for a bit, but you also risk damaging the franchise and gaining a bad reputation for yourself. In the long term, it would be better just to create some new series set in feudal Japan or adapt another one of Clavell's books.

  • @liwyatan
    @liwyatan Месяц назад

    I utterly and completly disagree with you.
    Regarding the "source material", Clavel book is based in real life characters, which had A LOT MORE INTERESTING LIVES just after the point the book ended!
    If they just get inspiration on the real life characters and events they can make a fricking interesting Season 2 and beyond.
    Just, and example, Tokugawa Ieyasu used Adams (in real life) to start merchant trading with the Dutch, and take out power from the Christian daimios. And oh boy it was a complicated matter. Because Adams sided with the Japanese and not the Dutch (that tought Adams was "their man").
    Returning Fuji to the series is trivial (she's not dead, we don't even know if she has went to the Shinto or Buddhist Monestery that its, quite close to Anjio anyway) and Adams married, in real life, the daughter of a Samurai Lord.
    We also, have, a lot of really interesting, and also fun, characters that have been complitly underused or nearly ignored in Season 1 (Vasco Rodriguez, anyone?)
    So no, they have to really screw it hard to not make an interesting Season 2.
    I'm, kinda, baffled why Clavel doesn't followed with the lives of the characters, because he didn't touch one of the most interesting episodes in the history of Japan. The era of the Shogunate and the ending of Portuguese (and west) influence in Japan for nearly 300 hundred years.

  • @georgeacun3619
    @georgeacun3619 Месяц назад +3

    Mariko died

  • @rararnanan7244
    @rararnanan7244 Месяц назад

    I hope Yabushige will return!
    Maybe they placed his head in a bacta tank and he will return with a robotic body.
    Hey, they did it in Starwars.

    • @thenextseason
      @thenextseason  Месяц назад

      I don't see any reason why this shouldn't happen

  • @chewiewins
    @chewiewins Месяц назад

    Don’t need it. Happily watch it. Trust the makers.

  • @Bird-Birdy-Love
    @Bird-Birdy-Love Месяц назад

    They can can in 2 different directions since they already adapted the book, They can countinue to adapt more events albeit in a historical ficiton sense with what happened with williams and the shogunate(trust me their is a lot of stuff and events that happened ) or can go in a total different direction with different events all together. its hard to tell and they can mess this up as the first season had the book for basis of all characters traits, directions, actions and personalities, without that it will be tough as it will depend entirely on the momentum of the writers to keep in interested and hollywood writers are not exactly the best these days.

    • @thenextseason
      @thenextseason  Месяц назад

      I think doing it as a historical fiction would work a lot better, in my opinion

  • @billielachatte4841
    @billielachatte4841 Месяц назад

    I'm not sure it's a good idea... But I just hope it's great.

  • @lingtc8843
    @lingtc8843 Месяц назад +1

    This is wrong because the story has reached its intended end with many of the interesting characters killed off. What are they planning to do? Bring back Mariko and Yabu? I don't think this is going to be a good sequel.
    "Unless I win". Yeah it will be hopeless, unless they made it another "win".

  • @S1eeperServ1ce
    @S1eeperServ1ce Месяц назад

    No.
    Make King Rat instead and use the same cast where possible.

  • @StupendousHillis
    @StupendousHillis Месяц назад

    Ugh I was worried this would happen. Can’t they leave good things good? Just adapt another book!

  • @jesperzeng
    @jesperzeng Месяц назад

    Season 2, the fall of Tokugawa? I mean Toranaga? The lead to Boshin War?

    • @thenextseason
      @thenextseason  Месяц назад

      But then Hiroyuki Sanada wouldn't be in it :( I mean, maybe he could appear in flashbacks but I don't see how that would work

  • @rickraw100
    @rickraw100 Месяц назад

    Really no need for Season 2 , about a month after episode 10 was the battle of Sekigahara.