Iron Solomon On Why He Never Battled Illmaculate & Accusations Writing For Battle With The Saurus
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- Опубликовано: 18 окт 2024
- Iron takes time to address unanswered questions from his deep history in battle rap.
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Awsome interview Cheers.
A talented, educated, humble battle rapper. Not enough rappers like this guy. Irion is all class.
I have way more respect for people like solomon who know they're amazing but stay humble. it's an incredible trait to have imo
Dope shit Drect really enjoying the shit you guys doing
Iron fucking dope
This is a dope conversation. Part of the reason the battle rap culture got away from "freestyling" is...us fans wanted too much. We crave more structure, more metaphors, more schemes etc. So it forced battle rappers to write rounds. Makes for better quality battles but it lost the essence of what battle rap was during Mook's and Iron's prime.
That's a fact
+r0mediddy Mook wrote his verses back in the day as well..
+r0mediddy Mook even said everyone was writing their rhymes back then. That is why mook was able to recite the same rhymes in different battles.
+Enigmatic Beats Exactly my thoughts !! I feel like most street battle rappers used writtens in freestyle battles. But out here in L.A Freestyling off the top was the only thing considered to be skill 10 yrs ago and prior. If you sounded structured or came with writtens it was considered wack. Which is why I never really developed my off the top freestyle skills because I wasn't really good at it. But nowawdays if you go into a written battle with Freestyles off the top its considered wack. How time and strategies change. It has changed for the better but like romediddy said, the essence was lost. Never will it be the same again.
+r0mediddy I was never a top tier guy. I never battled a top tier guy but in the early-mid 2000's I used to street battle all the time and we wrote our shit. We didn't take it too seriously like these guys so none of us really had a problem admitting it. We just wanted to put on a good show. It wasn't that we sat down and wrote whole songs but we'd think up a trash line, what would sound cool with it and depending on who we were battling, if it fit, we used it. It was like we had a bank of bars to use. I don't really see anything wrong with that personally. We still had to think, on the fly, when and how to say what and to whom. It was fun so when I hear complaints about stuff being written I just laugh because really, why does it matter? Break dancers practice that shit. How is this very different?
Iron didn't get jerked against New MC, the judges knew you recycled that "Five Mics" before at least twice. That shit didn't fly when it was caught.
Illmac vs Iron would be a classic.
maybe but illmac is not on his level right now
john dohhe cause he surpassed it years ago
KOTD fans hear wordplay and automatically give it a pass whether it's corny or not. If Iron was on Smack he'd be bottom-mid-tier, most of the PGs have crazier pens than him right now. Illmac doesn't "bar out" as much but his writing is on a higher level, period
It's about to go down.
Illmac 3-0 🤦♂️
Iron Solomon vs Illmaculate would be a classic
Illmac vs Iron Solomon, please. Battle rap needs a match-up like that.
it happening on KOTD WORD DOMINATION
Illmac 3-0
Iron Solomon vs. Dizaster
Iron Solomon vs. Pat Stay
Iron Solomon vs. Charron
Iron Solomon vs. Illmaculate
Iron Solomon vs. Charlie Clips
Iron Solomon vs. Aye Verb
Iron Solomon vs. Loaded Lux
Iron Solomon vs. Arsonal
Iron Solomon vs. Hollow Da Don
+Frank Downer Get verb and Lux out that list. They are good with writtens but not with Off the top freestyles. Everybody else would be good.
+Frank Downer Iron Solomon vs Carter Deems
Frank Downer Iron vs. Pat, Illmac, Ars, and Hollow definitely
Frank Downer Verb a garbage ass diva, lux overrated af, & arsonal been jaded
Well Dizaster happened, and it was a classic. Arsonal retired and Aye Verb finally got his washed up, corny ass out of battle rap.
I think diz vs iron should still go down. That was like THEE battle ppl wanted to see at one time. I'd still like to see it
@soulybrooklyn- no they haven't. Where'd you get this misinformation from?
SoulyBrooklyn They def didn't. That's one of them battles that had to go dwn, but never did. They were both one of the best in the world when they were in their prime, and they took shots at each other in their battles
***** I JUST peeped that. I thought u were just speculating when I read this earlier. I'm siked they announced this. Good job KOTD
As for Iron shouts too him humble legend
If Illmac didn't have the chain, I'd love to see him battle Iron. I could also see Iron battling Dizaster or Dumbfoundead.
Dumbfounded °¿°
He's not in the same stratosphere with Iron, Diz or Illmac.
+Lovetron Lawrence His battle vs conceited and diz were solid. Dumbfounded is one of the most creative jokers just weak on the bars sometimes. Id rather see dumb vs iron then iron vs diz for sure. Theyre similar and diz would be a complete mismatch that iron would just joke on
schouvler15 You're correct...he has lots of jokes. Too often. He's a comedian, not a battle rapper.
At this point I'd rather see Dumbfoundead vs. Daylyt.
+Lovetron Lawrence Thats so stupid, this idea that if a guy is joke heavy isnt a battler is just pompous. Battle rap is about destroying your opponent the style you use doesnt make it not battle rap
Give us Iron Solomon vs Charron
One of my favorite battle rappers of all time. Trust.
solomons face got red as hell
Iron vs. Pat Stay, Bigg K, and Illmac please!
They should do a written battle now
Iron seems like such a cool dude. It's much easier to root for a battler like that IMO.
dude is super cool and humble I been watching him battle since I was 17 an I remember when him vs Saurus came out haha damn
Iron vs. Pete Fists need that rematch smoke
I think Hollow is the best all around battle rapper. Clips made it a debate at one point but his inconsistency and loss to hollow put Hollow over him.
would love to see iron v bigg k
+Alex Cruz Doesn't make sense but would be good for a clash of styles. Similar to the Illmac battle. Very unusual but came out well.
Dunno if anyone said this, but New MC definitely beat Iron.
he just admitted to sucker punching saurus lol
Why is Iron crossing his hands like a kid at an abusive catholic school? Lol
Humble dude. Good interview. But for real. Nocando come back!!!!
Desacration u are correct these new kids act like the evented toilet paper lol. Battling rather it be todays format or the original freestyle format that cats like myself were into back in the day when I spit has been around for years. Hell way before there was a scribble jam or a smack dvd people use too battle on the local street corners or at the school lunch tables. Hell back in 76 or 77 battling wasn't even about raps people would battle too see who the louder boombox. Dont believe me ask bamabata and grandmaster caz they battled with boomboxes not bars. The first actual lyrical battle was on dec 31st 1981 three years before I was born when busy bee vs kool moe dee happened. Busy was a old school party rapper and moe dee was the blueprint for whut we know as lyricist in today's era. Moe dee shut shit down that night but the moral of the story is if moe dee doesn't spit those battle bars vs busy bee there would be no emcees or battle rappers dudes would sound like tech 9 not the industry rapper but the battle rapper from philly. Bars would not exist there would be no battles on your local block or high school lunch table think about that. There would be no illmac,math,myers,daylyt,lux,pat stay,hollow,clips,mook or even guys like kool g rap,nas,jay z,biggie, tupac,pun,krs,rakim,kane etc.. u get the idea hip hop in general would be super different could u imagine a world where your fav battle emcee spit non direct party raps too win? lol that shit would be crazy
+Artform Emcee The boombox battles you mentioned are the Sound vs Sound systems. To see who had the best sound system for everybody to hear. Battling off the top of the dome has been around Romeo and Juliet by Shakespear. Romeo's cousin ( Mercutio is his name if I'm not incorrect ) used to have what they called in the novel
" battle of wits " where they would trade word for word, personal disses to each other. One said something clever about the other and then the other individual would respond with something more clever. This has been around for ages. Just not in the format that it is today. Its all well structured now. Which is a good thing for any great writers. But you are right ! Moe Dee was the one to go lyrical with it. Which turned it into what it is now. Salaam !
Theaurus won that battle first time i saw it i thought iron won...but 2 nd and third time theasuruz won
i love iron but he looks so much like a baby sometimes i can't get over it.
RiP CADALACK RON!💉
'Best of the white dudes' imagine if the races reversed in a different sport lol
Awsome interview Cheers.
Awsome interview Cheers.