She certainly did! I just read the other day that she's not returning for the conclusion of Wolf Hall (The Mirror & the Light). I like the actress replacing her, but I'm still very disappointed that it won't be Jessica. It's not that she was the "perfect Jane Rochford"-but she was DEFINITELY the perfect Hilary Mantel version of her!
The actors playing the role as Jane Boleyn is the same actress who played the role of Cathrine Parr in becoming Elizabeth so it looks like Anne Boleyn vs Catherine Parr too me lol
I like the rendition of Lady Rochford here, as well as Jane Seymour, more so than the Tudors LOL. I was just rewatching the Tudors earlier and I just realize how 'campy' it felt, although I have to admit, the actors are gorgeous lol.
This is one of those series I watched over and over again. To understand it as completely as possible as well as enjoying it. Throughout the series Jane was always disdainful of Anne, even as she performed her duties for her.
It doesn't make sense that Jane would have initiated reports that would bring down the Boleyn family because that family was her identity. I thought I understood that sometimes it was necessary to witness against others in order to demonstrate loyalty to the king. It would make more sense if Jane began telling tales when she realized the situation was dire and her choice was to go down with Anne and George, or to try to salvage an identity of her own. She may also have been threatened with a terrible punishment alongside her in-laws.
Actually, contemporary sources don’t support the notion that Jane hated Anne or her Husband. There is nothing from the time that suggests George and Jane had an unhappy marriage other than the fact they never had children which could have been down to a number of reasons. When George was in the tower, Jane visited him and wrote him a letter I believe which sadly has not survived. There is also evidence her and Anne and Mary Boleyn were good friends. It is unlikely Jane was the mystery source of one of the damning pieces of evidence given against Anne - likely another lady in waiting although we cannot confirm their identity. The only two things we have to even nod towards any hostility between Jane and Anne/George is she openly supported Princess Mary towards 1536 during a women’s protest or something along those lines, and Jane being banished from court after spreading lies about one of Henry’s mistresses - likely under Anne’s orders. Whether jane took this badly or not we will never know. But I personally don’t feel she’s ever been portrayed properly in recent times
@@BB-eg2nb feel whatever you want. Mantel’s portrayal of Lady Rochford makes sense. And wasn’t George known for his “gallantry “? Anyway, she went mad and they beheaded her for helping pimp out Queen The fifth/Howard.
@@jimsteele9559 again, we will never really understand her reasoning for getting involved with Katheryn Howard’s affair. Sadly, George Boleyn’s bad reputation stems from a piece written by George Cavendish who called George Boleyn a whoremongerer who raped women. George Cavendish was Thomas Wolsey’s secretary- so hardly surprising he had no love for Boleyn. Chapuys, oddly enough, provides a positive review of George Boleyn. But this was before he realised George was related too Anne. We will never know these people so of course they may well be as they are portrayed in modern times.
@@jimsteele9559that is based on modern writers. Dig deeper and look at some of the interactions that took place between Anne and Jane. Anne trusted Jane with the secret that Henry wasn’t performing in the bedroom. Do you think she would do that if Jane and Anne shared a hatred
Jane's main target of vitriol was her husband George, Anne's sibling. In any account I have ever read George couldn't/wouldn't stop straying - maybe Jane's bitterness got the better of her and she simply took things too far? And when something has been said it cannot be unsaid.
There wasn't any evidence she spoke against her husband & Anne also she sent a caring letter to George her husband remember she would be pulled down as well ie being married to a traitor
True. The only thing I have read that she said was that she was told either by her husband or Anne that Henry didn’t know to satisfy a woman or something like that.
I liked Wolf Hall, and they did so much so well-certainly they could have done a better job on the dresses and particularly the head dresses -good God. It’s a sight better than “The Tudors In Vegas”. I know it may open people’s eyes to that historic period which is good. I read the Mantel series. I think they did a pretty good job of condensing that weighty series. The boots bugged me, but I know for the modern audience they felt they needed to “man it up”. The true foot ware would be too panseyish.
This actress,Jessica Rain, I think, did a great job as Lady Rochford. Well I heard she’s out as the actress for that role in part 2 which is filming now. Bad call I think. Oh well. They should stick to the original actors if they want to rival I Claudius. Too late.
She was beheaded for conspiring with Katherine Howard to cuckold the King. It has nothing to do with Anne Boleyn or her brother. But to be sure she did help bring down 2 Queens
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The same actress did an equally, if not even better job playing Catherine Parr in Becoming Elizabeth.
did nor notice that ... thanks !
She certainly did! I just read the other day that she's not returning for the conclusion of Wolf Hall (The Mirror & the Light). I like the actress replacing her, but I'm still very disappointed that it won't be Jessica. It's not that she was the "perfect Jane Rochford"-but she was DEFINITELY the perfect Hilary Mantel version of her!
The actors playing the role as Jane Boleyn is the same actress who played the role of Cathrine Parr in becoming Elizabeth so it looks like Anne Boleyn vs Catherine Parr too me lol
The best character in Hilary Mantel's Cromwell books.
I bought your book -- & it's excellent! Thoroughly researched and well written. I particularly appreciate your abundant use of Primary Sources.
Thank you I enjoyed the video. Look forward to more
I like the rendition of Lady Rochford here, as well as Jane Seymour, more so than the Tudors LOL. I was just rewatching the Tudors earlier and I just realize how 'campy' it felt, although I have to admit, the actors are gorgeous lol.
This is one of those series I watched over and over again. To understand it as completely as possible as well as enjoying it. Throughout the series Jane was always disdainful of Anne, even as she performed her duties for her.
yes, same for me , watched it several times already, and will watch it again for sure ! even better than "the Tudors" I think !
I loved your book. Thank you!!
That actress plays Catherine Parr in becoming Elizabeth.
And call the midwife
It doesn't make sense that Jane would have initiated reports that would bring down the Boleyn family because that family was her identity. I thought I understood that sometimes it was necessary to witness against others in order to demonstrate loyalty to the king. It would make more sense if Jane began telling tales when she realized the situation was dire and her choice was to go down with Anne and George, or to try to salvage an identity of her own. She may also have been threatened with a terrible punishment alongside her in-laws.
Lady Rochford hated hated hated Anne and her brother. Identity? Her identity was a date with revenge. What are you even talking about?
Actually, contemporary sources don’t support the notion that Jane hated Anne or her Husband. There is nothing from the time that suggests George and Jane had an unhappy marriage other than the fact they never had children which could have been down to a number of reasons. When George was in the tower, Jane visited him and wrote him a letter I believe which sadly has not survived. There is also evidence her and Anne and Mary Boleyn were good friends. It is unlikely Jane was the mystery source of one of the damning pieces of evidence given against Anne - likely another lady in waiting although we cannot confirm their identity. The only two things we have to even nod towards any hostility between Jane and Anne/George is she openly supported Princess Mary towards 1536 during a women’s protest or something along those lines, and Jane being banished from court after spreading lies about one of Henry’s mistresses - likely under Anne’s orders. Whether jane took this badly or not we will never know. But I personally don’t feel she’s ever been portrayed properly in recent times
@@BB-eg2nb feel whatever you want. Mantel’s portrayal of Lady Rochford makes sense. And wasn’t George known for his “gallantry “? Anyway, she went mad and they beheaded her for helping pimp out Queen The fifth/Howard.
@@jimsteele9559 again, we will never really understand her reasoning for getting involved with Katheryn Howard’s affair. Sadly, George Boleyn’s bad reputation stems from a piece written by George Cavendish who called George Boleyn a whoremongerer who raped women. George Cavendish was Thomas Wolsey’s secretary- so hardly surprising he had no love for Boleyn. Chapuys, oddly enough, provides a positive review of George Boleyn. But this was before he realised George was related too Anne. We will never know these people so of course they may well be as they are portrayed in modern times.
@@jimsteele9559that is based on modern writers. Dig deeper and look at some of the interactions that took place between Anne and Jane. Anne trusted Jane with the secret that Henry wasn’t performing in the bedroom. Do you think she would do that if Jane and Anne shared a hatred
Jane's main target of vitriol was her husband George, Anne's sibling. In any account I have ever read George couldn't/wouldn't stop straying - maybe Jane's bitterness got the better of her and she simply took things too far? And when something has been said it cannot be unsaid.
I wish someone would portray Jane as she is described in history. A help mate to Anne.
Help mate is not a word that comes to mind when I think of Lady Rochford, although she sure helped Catherine Howard ;)
I doubt they were besties. I also do not the she purposefully destroyed the Boleyns.
Help mate is the technical term for a wife. Best description would be fellow conspirators
is it boleyn, or bulen,,, some heraldry with a Bull?
There wasn't any evidence she spoke against her husband & Anne also she sent a caring letter to George her husband remember she would be pulled down as well ie being married to a traitor
True. The only thing I have read that she said was that she was told either by her husband or Anne that Henry didn’t know to satisfy a woman or something like that.
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The hottest Lady Rocheford.
Love this version of Lady Rochford! Sooooo goood!!!!!
I liked Wolf Hall, and they did so much so well-certainly they could have done a better job on the dresses and particularly the head dresses -good God. It’s a sight better than “The Tudors In Vegas”. I know it may open people’s eyes to that historic period which is good. I read the Mantel series. I think they did a pretty good job of condensing that weighty series. The boots bugged me, but I know for the modern audience they felt they needed to “man it up”. The true foot ware would be too panseyish.
lady nee parker *her mother of st john* the maternal family of henry 7th...
This actress,Jessica Rain, I think, did a great job as Lady Rochford. Well I heard she’s out as the actress for that role in part 2 which is filming now. Bad call I think. Oh well. They should stick to the original actors if they want to rival I Claudius. Too late.
Mark Gatiss was awful.
@@a.t.c.3862 Awfully good! Perfect for the part as Gardiner. But if you don’t think so, you’re in luck. He’s out I hear.
She's a wicked lady betrayed her husband and betrayed Anne which she paid dearly later with her life.
She was beheaded for conspiring with Katherine Howard to cuckold the King.
It has nothing to do with Anne Boleyn or her brother.
But to be sure she did help bring down 2 Queens
The Boleyns must have been terrible in-laws to warrant a betrayal, even there is no evidence that she betrayed the Boleyns.
Actually- there no clear evidence of betrayal. It may be history has been unfair to Jane.
Enjoyed this, some early relevant commentary followed by letting a scene play out almost entirely before commenting further, a rarity today...please, more introspection