I always had a fascination for the British Monarchy and History. Anne Boleyn was a great and strong woman and her daughter Elizabeth l the same. I cannot imagine how her daughter lived without her mother and her last speach about the King was for love to her daughter.
What is little said about this scene is that the judge sentencing her to death, the Duke of Norfolk, was Anne Boleyn's UNCLE. He is also the uncle of Catherine Howard, the fifth wife and second executed.
Cromwell had her murdered, but he did her a great favour by allowing Norfolk to keep reading, allowing her the chance of a fast and honourable death rather than being burned alive.
The scene shows a knowledge of the horrific details of the penalty for treason. For men, the punishment was to be hanged but not until dead and then disemboweled and beheaded. The king could show mercy by remitting all parts of the sentence except beheading. (He did this for Cromwell.) The penalty for women was burning and the king had no power to substitute another form of death. The judges were protesting that Norfolk was going beyond the law by pronouncing the alternate sentence of beheading. This must have been at the king's command as he had already sent for the swordsman from Calais.
The hypocrisy and sexism here is horrible. Anne is sentenced to death for allegedly cheating because she is a woman. Henry, being a man, gets away with it countless times and no one says a word.
Just to be Devil's Advocate, and not agreeing with Henry or adultery at all, only a female's adultery could undermine the legitimacy of the succession and, therefore, be treason. Adultery *with* the Queen, like adultery *by* the Queen was also treason. It's why Mark Smeaton, Henry Norris, William Brereton, Francis Weston, and George Boleyn went to the block.
@@lartisteautravail but he is right. It is not about sexism it is about the line of succession which is why men who had sex with the queen would also die
Cromwell utterly framed her and five other innocent people, purely because Henry wanted to get rid of her and marry Jane Seymour and to have a son. He was a tyrant. Cromwell was also a cruel and malicious man.
Watch the fabulous film A man for all seasons, Cromwell is portrayed as a much more power hungry man than in the BBC production, but then again, the series isn't finished yet, hurry up BBC!
Well yes but he also did it because Anne and Cromwell were disagreeing a lot on how to go about continuing the church of England’s future. Anne was in his way so he got rid of her, as he did the othets
She never stood a chance, the jury took only a few moments to come back with a guilty verdict, and only one of the men involved confessed (under torture) also the men condemned with her were convicted before she was except her brother who was tried after her, which by default meant she was gunna die. A very misunderstood lady
I liked seeing them being allies ! Maybe if history would've been different and they would've not had so many disagreements over the Reformation of the Church and if Anne would've had a son....Who knows how different the 16th century would've been for England. Perhaps further ties with France and the small Northern German States, as the court would've been ruled by probably the two most manipulating, intelligent and overall Machiavelian people from Henry's entourage at the time !
This never happened. Purely fictional. Cromwell could never have spoken to that group of Lords that way. Henry commuted her sentence because it would have been an even bigger embarrassment to burn his wife. Henry was a monster, Anne was schemer, and Cromwell was reformist, cut-throat bureaucrat. All makes for very interesting historical fiction though!
Do you know how many people have been slaughtered for nothing - then and now? In those times THOUSANDS were being executed for nothing, but you only feel sorry for the ''famous'' victim? What about ordinary people or ''simple folks'' who were burnt alive or disemboweled and not allowed swift and painless death like Anne? What about current genocides and persecutions?
@@percyweasley9301 I mean let’s be real it’s not just women of the 20th and 21st century that have always thought they where above the other woman I think it’s safe to say she rose to power and abused it on Catharine we know this much from how she treated Mary this is not a debate it’s true facts she easily could have treated her as the last 4 of Henry’s wives did they where kind to both Mary and Elisabeth but Anne was cruel to Mary because she was a threat so I think it’s safe to say she possibly yes thought highly of Catharine till she herself fell in favor with the king then thought herself an equal 🙄as if she was a princess if fucking Spain and princess of fucking wales and queen Catharine of England please
No, karma would have been to be discarded as Katherine was - not beheaded on trumped-up charges. Or do you think all people of questionable character deserve to be murdered?
According to Diarmaid MacCulloch, AB was a bitchy schemer, not a feminist martyr who constantly dripped poison into the king's ear. She was so reviled in court that the reform faction led by Cromwell teamed up with the conservative faction led by Norfolk to bring her down.
@@jennifermoriarty2188 The 2 of 3 Catherines (Aragon & Parr) were the most feminist of Henry's wives. Catherine of Aragon really stood behind her daughter Mary & her claim to the throne (in her own right) and Catherine Parr was passionate about the greater role and power of women in the reformed Church. She openly expressed her belief that women could & should be able to divorce their husbands.
Diamaid MacCulloch is not an expert on Anne Boleyn by any means, I suggest you do more thorough research from historians like Eric Ives. It's also kind of rich that you bring feminism up yet call a woman who lived almost 500 years ago a bitch based on zero facts. If Anne Boleyn "dripped poision" into the kings ear, then so did Wolsey, Cromwell and countless others. AB wasn't a devil, she wasn't a saint, she had strengths and flaws like any human being.
I cannot imagine her terror when Norfolk first said she'd be burned, pausing for a brief time, and only then said "head smitten off".
I always had a fascination for the British Monarchy and History. Anne Boleyn was a great and strong woman and her daughter Elizabeth l the same. I cannot imagine how her daughter lived without her mother and her last speach about the King was for love to her daughter.
Women were burned for treason
I can't imagine the betrayal she must have felt...OMG...the betrayal!! That fat sick man who in my opinion never should have been king!!
What is little said about this scene is that the judge sentencing her to death, the Duke of Norfolk, was Anne Boleyn's UNCLE. He is also the uncle of Catherine Howard, the fifth wife and second executed.
Cromwell had her murdered, but he did her a great favour by allowing Norfolk to keep reading, allowing her the chance of a fast and honourable death rather than being burned alive.
The scene shows a knowledge of the horrific details of the penalty for treason. For men, the punishment was to be hanged but not until dead and then disemboweled and beheaded. The king could show mercy by remitting all parts of the sentence except beheading. (He did this for Cromwell.) The penalty for women was burning and the king had no power to substitute another form of death. The judges were protesting that Norfolk was going beyond the law by pronouncing the alternate sentence of beheading. This must have been at the king's command as he had already sent for the swordsman from Calais.
Cromwell himself would lose his head some 3 years later, by the Kings orders
The hypocrisy and sexism here is horrible. Anne is sentenced to death for allegedly cheating because she is a woman. Henry, being a man, gets away with it countless times and no one says a word.
And no proof against her. So cruel and unfair. She didnt deserved this tragic end. 😕
Just to be Devil's Advocate, and not agreeing with Henry or adultery at all, only a female's adultery could undermine the legitimacy of the succession and, therefore, be treason. Adultery *with* the Queen, like adultery *by* the Queen was also treason. It's why Mark Smeaton, Henry Norris, William Brereton, Francis Weston, and George Boleyn went to the block.
RenShiWu Leave it to a random dudebro on the internet to respond to a comment on sexist injustice and hypocrisy with “WELL ACTUALLY”
@@lartisteautravail but he is right. It is not about sexism it is about the line of succession which is why men who had sex with the queen would also die
Raul Let me blow your mind: the line of succession was itself predicated on sexist ideals
Cromwell utterly framed her and five other innocent people, purely because Henry wanted to get rid of her and marry Jane Seymour and to have a son. He was a tyrant.
Cromwell was also a cruel and malicious man.
Yes. He was a cruel snake. Glad to know He had the same death just like Anne. In the end Henry killed him too.
Watch the fabulous film A man for all seasons, Cromwell is portrayed as a much more power hungry man than in the BBC production, but then again, the series isn't finished yet, hurry up BBC!
Well yes but he also did it because Anne and Cromwell were disagreeing a lot on how to go about continuing the church of England’s future. Anne was in his way so he got rid of her, as he did the othets
The Duke of Norfolk her uncle, was also cruel and malicious
Those men may not have slept with Anne, but they weren't innocent people, they've all did horrible things. Cromwell was only doing Henry's bidding.
She never stood a chance, the jury took only a few moments to come back with a guilty verdict, and only one of the men involved confessed (under torture) also the men condemned with her were convicted before she was except her brother who was tried after her, which by default meant she was gunna die.
A very misunderstood lady
Not ''misunderstood'' but made patsy deliberately. Everyone now knows that she was not guilty of crimes accused - yet no need to glorify her either.
It was said that on the jury, Henry Percy, who once was engaged to Anne, wept for her.
I liked seeing them being allies ! Maybe if history would've been different and they would've not had so many disagreements over the Reformation of the Church and if Anne would've had a son....Who knows how different the 16th century would've been for England. Perhaps further ties with France and the small Northern German States, as the court would've been ruled by probably the two most manipulating, intelligent and overall Machiavelian people from Henry's entourage at the time !
This never happened. Purely fictional. Cromwell could never have spoken to that group of Lords that way. Henry commuted her sentence because it would have been an even bigger embarrassment to burn his wife. Henry was a monster, Anne was schemer, and Cromwell was reformist, cut-throat bureaucrat. All makes for very interesting historical fiction though!
“Head smitten off....”
one of the biggest injustices and cruelty committed
Do you know how many people have been slaughtered for nothing - then and now? In those times THOUSANDS were being executed for nothing, but you only feel sorry for the ''famous'' victim? What about ordinary people or ''simple folks'' who were burnt alive or disemboweled and not allowed swift and painless death like Anne? What about current genocides and persecutions?
@@yevgeniyaleshchenko849 reall
I love Anne, but this woman rejoiced at Catherine’s downfall. Karma came for her.
We don't know that's true or not.
@@percyweasley9301 I mean let’s be real it’s not just women of the 20th and 21st century that have always thought they where above the other woman I think it’s safe to say she rose to power and abused it on Catharine we know this much from how she treated Mary this is not a debate it’s true facts she easily could have treated her as the last 4 of Henry’s wives did they where kind to both Mary and Elisabeth but Anne was cruel to Mary because she was a threat so I think it’s safe to say she possibly yes thought highly of Catharine till she herself fell in favor with the king then thought herself an equal 🙄as if she was a princess if fucking Spain and princess of fucking wales and queen Catharine of England please
No, karma would have been to be discarded as Katherine was - not beheaded on trumped-up charges. Or do you think all people of questionable character deserve to be murdered?
@@kkandsims4612 I mean, lets be real and not generalize. Not ''women'' in general but women of a certain sort.
Where I can watch that series complete please please
Where can I watch this for free?
Did you find ?
Movie?
I think it was a tv show the wolf hall
Anne was strong but she did do things like give large amounts of money to Francis.
If you betray your Queen and rejoice over her unjust trial, you certainly deserve to get one yourself.
She is queen as much as i am a virgin astronaut jane seymour is my queen
@@magical_universe793 Cringe. None of them is your queen, they are all DEAD
By this logic, she deserved the SAME fate as Katherine as in to be discared and sent away, not to be murdered.
Min 1:21 what he asked her, where she answered "yes"?
"Did you not make gifts of money to Francis Weston?"
According to Diarmaid MacCulloch, AB was a bitchy schemer, not a feminist martyr who constantly dripped poison into the king's ear. She was so reviled in court that the reform faction led by Cromwell teamed up with the conservative faction led by Norfolk to bring her down.
Catherine of Aragon was more a feminist as she published/ supported the right of women to have an education.
@@jennifermoriarty2188 The 2 of 3 Catherines (Aragon & Parr) were the most feminist of Henry's wives. Catherine of Aragon really stood behind her daughter Mary & her claim to the throne (in her own right) and Catherine Parr was passionate about the greater role and power of women in the reformed Church. She openly expressed her belief that women could & should be able to divorce their husbands.
Diamaid MacCulloch is not an expert on Anne Boleyn by any means, I suggest you do more thorough research from historians like Eric Ives. It's also kind of rich that you bring feminism up yet call a woman who lived almost 500 years ago a bitch based on zero facts. If Anne Boleyn "dripped poision" into the kings ear, then so did Wolsey, Cromwell and countless others. AB wasn't a devil, she wasn't a saint, she had strengths and flaws like any human being.
@@catwald0 Well said.
@@catwald0 Many people have made her into a secular saint.
THis Scene Is Beyond Lame And Embarrassing
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