Naruto's 4th Great Ninja War Sucks! - Madara, Kaguya, & Sasuke (Part 7 of 7)

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  • Опубликовано: 27 окт 2024

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  • @wreday720
    @wreday720 4 года назад +63

    Im actually angry these videos do not have more views. These were really great, well edited and informative, you made 3 hours feel like they went by in like 30. Thanks for the perspective, honestly while i knew the arc was bad, i didnt realise it was THIS bad.

    • @jaredgreathouse3672
      @jaredgreathouse3672 3 года назад +6

      That's a fact. They're so well written and delivered, and they're an HONEST analysis of a series I used to love to death. I can still watch Part 1 WHENEVER, but the whole war arc is just no no, no thank you

    • @wafflebloke1207
      @wafflebloke1207 2 года назад +1

      It's a long video plus not everyone love's hearing rants.

  • @delix787
    @delix787 4 года назад +64

    I don't blame Kishimoto for giving up. He also had The shonen jump editors on his ass for years about certain decisions.

    • @dutzy4650
      @dutzy4650 3 года назад +7

      I love your videos

    • @delix787
      @delix787 3 года назад +4

      @@dutzy4650 Thank You!!

    • @dutzy4650
      @dutzy4650 3 года назад +3

      Do you read Boruto because it's getting better

    • @4yahwey275
      @4yahwey275 3 года назад +2

      @@dutzy4650 yea boruto is quite decent and good at best cant wait for more stuff on it!!!!!!!!!

    • @KakaOfTheRealMadrid
      @KakaOfTheRealMadrid 2 года назад +8

      honestly man i blame him it’s his story and it ended up being shit
      Masashi has always been a terrible world builder but amazing story teller

  • @10oliviers
    @10oliviers 3 года назад +36

    This was one of the best breakdown of the 4th great ninja war that i've seen on youtube. You're amazing, great analysis and insight due to your passion of the series

  • @spaghettiking7312
    @spaghettiking7312 3 года назад +34

    This is the culmination of years of damage control on a battered arc. The fanboys deserve to be railed into the ground for defending this monstrosity of a finale.
    It should be said nonetheless that Naruto at its peak was one of the best-written and most compelling Shonen I'd ever read, and I thank you for covering the terrible and the once-amazing here. Credits.

    • @jaredgreathouse3672
      @jaredgreathouse3672 3 года назад +8

      So true. The worst thing to me (and believe me, there's competition) is making Zetsu this master manipulator. Because then it's like saying "Nothing else even matters. Nothing anyone did matters. It was all Aloe Venus Fly Trap Dude's will from the jump, going back to the land of waves." Like HUH? How? Why would anyone hear this and go "Oh yeah that's dope". Like WHAT?

  • @milesyoungblood7173
    @milesyoungblood7173 3 года назад +40

    29:57 you forgot the part where Naruto calls Obito the coolest guy

    • @navar1295
      @navar1295 3 года назад +9

      Probably was the most dumbest shit I ever heard Naruto say

    • @milesyoungblood7173
      @milesyoungblood7173 3 года назад +9

      @@navar1295 holy moly. I like to pretend the whole Kaguya incident never happened and that Madara was the final villain. It keeps my soul at peace 🙂

    • @milesyoungblood7173
      @milesyoungblood7173 3 года назад +10

      @Whirly Mask if Naruto is viewing Obito as two entities (good kid Obito and evil adult Obito), then Naruto is even more disillusioned than Obito-the man who wants to destroy the very fragment of reality. You can’t acknowledge Obito as two entities. Obito must be held accountable for what he has done-and Obito has done a *lot* of evil things. Hitler was once a good kid but there’s a reason we don’t separate kid Hitler from genocidal Hitler.

    • @milesyoungblood7173
      @milesyoungblood7173 3 года назад +13

      @Whirly Mask Naruto talk no jutsuing Obito was bullshit. It was handled way better with Naruto. Obito was no longer who he was as a child; in other words, he lost his innocence, his idealism, his pureness (he’s *still* Obito though). It is clear that even though Obito was set on his villainous path by Madara, to say he was completely manipulated is wrong. He never intended on reviving Madara. At all. Kabuto did that. Obito was smart enough to not be Madara’s complete pawn so the whole manipulation argument has a few holes in it. Btw, Obito said that he hated Naruto because he embodies everything that he currently hates. He hates his idealistic youth and whatnot. He wanted to crush that in Naruto. That’s why he mocked him when he killed Neji. And how can you say Hitler was always evil? No one, and I mean no one, is born evil. It was his life events that shaped him into who he was. Lastly, are you suggesting Obito was forgiven for his crimes? He can never be forgiven in my eyes. No matter what. The fact that he gets to go to heaven with Rin after he has killed who knows how many people is honestly disgusting. He’s worse than from aot.

    • @bradleysmith6478
      @bradleysmith6478 3 года назад +5

      @@milesyoungblood7173 Thank you!!! I never bought that force redemption scene that the narrative plays In trying to make us forgive him like the fuck

  • @kevinnigins9488
    @kevinnigins9488 3 года назад +8

    I hope these videos blow up one day. They’re genuinely amazing.

  • @bisexualichigo4227
    @bisexualichigo4227 4 года назад +13

    I agree with you when it comes to Naruto, shitty last arc, but those first arcs and the good moment stay with you forever.
    **Runs away Naruto style** "Narutoooooo!!!"

    • @devanplays3509
      @devanplays3509 3 года назад +2

      @Prevention of FARTS nah

    • @M3rtyville
      @M3rtyville 3 года назад +4

      Land of Waves arc was the only really great arc. The others are decent with wasted potentials. The action in the 5 Sound Arc was good and the atmosphere, but the fight against the Sounds felt like a waste of time.
      I enjoyed the Chunin exam but there were too many useless characters and some of the longer battles were awful like the entire Neji fights and Kage fights. Man they really dragged out several episodes until the third finally died. It was unbearable.

    • @milesyoungblood7173
      @milesyoungblood7173 3 года назад +2

      @Prevention of FARTS pain arc? That’s commonly recognized as the peak of Naruto

    • @M3rtyville
      @M3rtyville 3 года назад +2

      @@fnaf2isthegoat75 ok, kid

  • @justarandomperson5363
    @justarandomperson5363 4 года назад +13

    Good videos, I'm glad I watched them all! Keep it up!

  • @TheRatingz
    @TheRatingz 3 года назад +9

    That moment where hashi is defending madara, and then cuts to madara tossing chakra rods into tobiramas head had me cracking tf up😂😂

  • @Blue-Code
    @Blue-Code 3 года назад +10

    Me after seeing what Kishimoto did to Naruto: I'm glad that samurai 8, something that Kishimoto wanted to write, got cancelled.

    • @razkable
      @razkable 2 года назад

      Kishimoto will forever annoy me because he claims he wanted sakura to end up with sasuke since day 1 but then has her confess to naruto and have him tell his mom he will find someone like her and his dad that she is his gf...what was the point of that?...you would think naruto would of learned a lesson by then....but nope. .it's weird

    • @ayhamahmad2277
      @ayhamahmad2277 Месяц назад

      ​@@razkabledon't forget that Naruto never mentioned hinata she barely exists in the manga i think kishimoto is lying

  • @ladypeppermintt
    @ladypeppermintt 3 года назад +6

    Dude this video series was the best. One of my favorite Naruto critics so far. I felt your pain I loved Naruto so your criticism was from love and honesty. Your videos are dope I wish you make more in the future. Have a blessed year.

    • @thepnutgallery3860
      @thepnutgallery3860  3 года назад +3

      Working on something right now... I am in school so it might be later than sooner, but I assure you I'm working on something.

  • @J-Hue
    @J-Hue 3 года назад +20

    I used to be hooked on the series, but stopped reading through the midway through the War arc for this exact reason. It made 0 sense. Props on the breakdown because I probably would've never seen some of this stuff otherwise.

    • @lukeizabelle2131
      @lukeizabelle2131 3 года назад +2

      After the true identity of Tobi reveal of having been actually Obito and after the flashback about his backstory which led him to become Tobi and wanting to execute the Infinite Tuskoyomi plan, I was also so disappointed about the whole series that I was really thinking and considering about giving up on reading it and watching the rest of the series. I was really losing my passion for reading it and my faith for it's future. But then I thought that it would have been such a shame to give up completely on something for which I have spent so many years of my life watching it, reading it, loving it, thinking about it, theorizing, speculating about it and giving all of my love and passion in doing all of that. At first it was quite hard to persevere in continuing to read it but eventually I got quite over it and I continued to enjoy in parts the rest of the story (not all of it). But getting closer to the whole Black Zetsu and Kaguya being the final villains reveal and everything that happened after that, I was again slowly losing my interest and passion for it. I wasn't even able to read every chapter every week, I would instead read it once in a while.
      Watching this last part of these videos talking about how bad this 4th Ninja War Arc was, really showed me how much I didn't give such a big damn about these last chapters first time I've read them considering how for example I completely forgot about that atrocious ass pull of Obito transfering his powers to Kakashi from the afterlife and the ashes of his dead body which led to Kakashi achieving not only two Mangekyou sharingans but even the friggin' perfect Susanoo!!! I mean, WTF LMFAO!!! Seriously, I remembered most things of the series but I completely forgot about such a gigantic bullshit. Even making Rin show up from her death, WTF!!!
      But nevertheless, despite the whole downhill that the series went through because of the 4th Ninja War Saga, I still cried after I read the final chapter. It was like a big chunk and chapter of my life had just ended. It was crazy to think that a series that I followed with so much passion and love and which spoke to me so much and left such a big mark on my life for 8 friggin' years had just finished. I was too emotionally involved and attached with the series to not even shed a bit of a tear after it's end despite all of it's issues and flaws.

  • @shadowpriest2574
    @shadowpriest2574 4 года назад +6

    Great series of videos. Well explained points , good audio .
    It feels very satisfying to see Naruto bashed for its flaws. (I like Naruto alot , but at this point in time its flaws are straight up comedy gold for me. The part where the only objectively evil villain survives is particularly funny)

  • @daniloss1319
    @daniloss1319 3 года назад +6

    Man I can't beilive how underrated you are

  • @Rodrigo15x
    @Rodrigo15x 5 лет назад +8

    Nice little series, keep it up dude. You’re gonna make it big one day.

  • @coffee_sloth
    @coffee_sloth 2 года назад +1

    Extremely well put together. And the editing was excellent too. I appreciated the humor that was thrown in to balance out the sheer volume of everything that needed to be covered. You explained what I felt, but couldn't really explain about the fall of the series.

  • @jimmilton6569
    @jimmilton6569 2 года назад +4

    Rather than Kishi losing passion, I think the reason behind the downfall of Naruto was more because of how harshly shounen jump treats its mangaka, they’re essentially slaves. Kishi’s schedule was basically: write, draw, write, draw, write, draw, eat, write more, draw more, then sleep for like 4 or 5 hours at most. I loved the early arcs of Naruto cuz you could tell he had the time to plan everything and implement it the way he wanted, but shounen jump and his editors being on his ass 24/7 caught up to him during the war arc and it’s pretty easy to tell

  • @danielsmith9130
    @danielsmith9130 Год назад

    Very, Very, Very well done!! I've watched your entire series and you saved me from the heartache that is the Fourth Great Ninja War. You helped me to preserve the good of the first two thirds of this great story. Thank you! You are not alone in your opinions and perspectives. Your editing and music mashing is incredibly good! Thank you!

  • @M3rtyville
    @M3rtyville 4 года назад +9

    There should be a chart for who manipulated who and who stopped who from stopping who from stopping whom.
    I see it as kinda excused that Madara can just put the eye into where his eyes were because he has Hashirama's cells but that doesn't excuse why it's bleeding or why his arm isn't regenerating...
    The roasting of Sakura reminded me that a lot of the characters have Naruto's tailed beast chakra. Couldn't they have just given it back? Just wondering.
    Also realized how many characters are worthless or ruined in Naruto. It's like the bread and butter of shonen to ruin an established cast. Even Bleach did that.
    You are probably the first to recall that the third recalls Yamato from what I have seen. As well as people starting to get illusions despite being caught in illusions is a lie.
    I don't believe that Kishi just got bored writing considering the manga he wanted to draw, Samurai 8, was pretty awful and got the axe. He really wanted to draw a comic about Samurai

  • @Eerondeimon
    @Eerondeimon Год назад

    I'm super late but your 4th great ninja war videos are dope. The close up on Raikage's "derp" face with the music at the end took me out! I was dying laughing 🤣🤣🤣

  • @ndahigwaedvard5203
    @ndahigwaedvard5203 3 года назад +7

    This definitely shows that kakashi was the ultimate master mind after all (in the pain arc he died because he used kamui twice😂😂) but in the war arc he was like😌🤷🏽‍♂️

  • @Jdudec367
    @Jdudec367 3 года назад +17

    Sasuke's ideology wasn't shallow forced or misinformed, ever since he had the conversation with the first 4 Hokages he's changed and decided that he wants to take over the leaf village and start it over from scratch.
    Nothing is wrong with him now being more rational then he was at the 5 kage summit, he changed when he got to talk with Itachi more and got to talk to the first 4 hokage.
    His character does make sense.
    Sasuke's goal wasn't for no reason and it wasn't stupid.

    • @JeffSmith-jg5hd
      @JeffSmith-jg5hd 2 года назад +2

      Exactly sasukes goal was great

    • @yelhsanosnhoj6602
      @yelhsanosnhoj6602 2 года назад

      Sasuke should want to destroy the village for what they did to his clan

    • @Jdudec367
      @Jdudec367 2 года назад

      @@yelhsanosnhoj6602 exactly

  • @zirotsero6951
    @zirotsero6951 3 года назад +4

    something i realized once i saw this vid.... zetsu is made from hashirama cells, but then why does black zetsu say zetsus were also a previous civilization turned to zetsus by the tree, damn, hashirama's cells were so readily available and used that they even used it before hashirama was even born

  • @PsychologyStud
    @PsychologyStud 3 года назад +9

    Have you watched “Naruto, the self-made hypocrite”? It is similar to this video. I think you’d like it

    • @jaredgreathouse3672
      @jaredgreathouse3672 3 года назад +3

      Not at all. The criticisms here are INFINITELY more fleshed out, thoughtful, and considerate of the general story than Gripes' video, which was poorly edited, delivered and researched.

    • @thrillainthemanilla1409
      @thrillainthemanilla1409 3 года назад +4

      @@jaredgreathouse3672 I’m interested in your opinion. I personally found the video very comical and well written. If you have the time I would love hear what he said that you disagreed with. Many of Gripes takes are indeed “hot takes” but that is the purpose of the video and doesn’t take away from what he’s saying in my opinion

    • @jaredgreathouse3672
      @jaredgreathouse3672 3 года назад +2

      @@thrillainthemanilla1409 I'm not gonna front and say some of his insults weren't funny. But.... my main issue is that much of his criticism is of Part 1, but he uses information from part 2 in his criticism, which to me is unfair. Let me give an example. He says that Naruto's successes are due to him being.... Ninja Jesus (and all the benefits that came with him being an Uzumaki). Well... no. This point wasn't even known until we meet the Sage of the Six Paths. So let's take him learning the Rasengan (which admittedly is fetishized a lot in Shippuden). Why did Naruto learn it in (what was it, a week?) Was it cuz of Kurama's chakra? Him being a perfect jinchuriki? Him being Asura's incarnation? No. Kurama was actually partly why his chakra control sucked. Indra and Asura hadn't even been thought of in the story, nor had the Uzumaki clan. And even given all the, we see Naruto train from sun up to sun down to practice it. Had he just been naturally gifted, he would've learned it the first time.

    • @jaredgreathouse3672
      @jaredgreathouse3672 3 года назад +2

      @@thrillainthemanilla1409 this transitions me into the next point. Gripes fetishizes hard work as the central theme of the story. Hard work is certainly there, but it's more embodied in Lee's personal philosophy (which isn't totally wrong, by the way). It isn't like the central component of the story, there are other more obvious themes. But even if we wanna go down that path (which we shouldn't, but let's for argument's sake), Naruto, Sasuke and yes, even prodigies like Itachi (who's in my top 5 favorite anime characters) STILL had to train to get better. Even with all their natural abilities, the Uzumaki and Uchiha clan blood in their veins, they still had to, at different paces, get better over time. So even if we wanna say hard work is the main theme, Naruto and the other two embody that trait well. To me, Gripes just sucks off Lee, who's character is nowhere NEAR as complex as Naruto or Sasuke, and hypes him up. Lee's cool, but his character is nowhere near as complicated as the main two characters. The level of adoration he shows Lee tells me he watched up to like the Chunin exams halfway through and stopped.

    • @thrillainthemanilla1409
      @thrillainthemanilla1409 3 года назад +8

      @@jaredgreathouse3672 I see where you’re coming from. That’s also part of the problem however. Because kishimoto did not think that far ahead his story went off the rails. As most people say Naruto went from a show about ninjas to a show about literal ninja Jesus battling alien gods. It’s kinda crazy when you think about it lol. Thats what gripes was trying to point out

  • @daniloss1319
    @daniloss1319 3 года назад +5

    I actually kind of liked this arc for the most part but the ending of it was unforgivable shit

  • @juhairakhter1495
    @juhairakhter1495 2 года назад +3

    We need a Naruto reboot where all the bad writing is fixed

  • @azureascendant994
    @azureascendant994 3 года назад +3

    The forth war should have been the ally villages going against Akatsuki affiliated Jashin cultists. To fight these immortal occultists they summon the dead with edotensei.

  • @co.spirit
    @co.spirit 5 лет назад +3

    Excellent video!

  • @ShimaS-0079
    @ShimaS-0079 4 года назад +4

    Great series. Felt so much the same way

  • @filmtherapybw
    @filmtherapybw 3 года назад +5

    Seen your videos. I have to say, great points you make. But you are misinformed in some areas. For example Sasuke didn't summon Manda. Manda died during Deidara's explosion. In the war arc, Sasuke summoned Aoda, not Manda.

    • @thepnutgallery3860
      @thepnutgallery3860  3 года назад +2

      Ah thank you. I honestly probably missed that. There are so many snakes in this series and I must have just conflated them.

    • @filmtherapybw
      @filmtherapybw 3 года назад +1

      @@thepnutgallery3860 Yeah, no worried. I missed a lot of things too, until I read the Manga again. It happens. 🙂

  • @angelnegron5129
    @angelnegron5129 3 года назад +1

    Great vid

  • @MILDMONSTER1234
    @MILDMONSTER1234 3 года назад +2

    Is Sasukes goal intentionally vague? Cause it can be seen in numerous different ways what he actually plans to do to show how hes really just a confused kid who doesnt know what hes doing.....but thats WAY too smart to be intentionally

  • @vivvy_0
    @vivvy_0 3 года назад +2

    great video

  • @Treasure-bl3cn
    @Treasure-bl3cn 11 месяцев назад

    I wish team taka would have become sasukes true family, karin his girlfriend, and they just move out, somewhere new. i hate this ending, its nonsense and it sucks. Everything you said is so true.
    Its funny because i watched till danzo arc in 2011 and thats it. I came back in 2014 and the ending came. Its funny because i didnt missed anything because everything went shit and downhill. One reason is, Yahagi san, kishis first editor left in mid pain arc, he was the brain behind naruto not kishi. Yahagi created the whole story till pain arc. And after that, we can all agree, we see a difference

  • @hariman7727
    @hariman7727 2 года назад

    I stopped watching Shippuuden when Naruto had to forgive everyone who wronged him, which is the exact moment that I realized Naruto had gone from scrappy underdog to "Orange Ninja Jesus-to HAI!".
    The further episodes only further cemented Naruto as Savior of All.
    Heart attacks are actually the heart going haywire and spasming because the signals that make the heart beat properly are out of sync. Diffibrilators actually stop the heart for a moment so that a normal heartbeat can resume.
    That being said... that's terrible animation of Sakura squeezing Naruto's heart to keep it beating.
    EDIT: Might Guy beating Madara would have been a fantastic twist ending.

  • @WakeUpUniverse66
    @WakeUpUniverse66 3 года назад +1

    What a trip..

  • @M3rtyville
    @M3rtyville 3 года назад +1

    I would like to see how you consider it compared to Boruto.

  • @weariedpluto24
    @weariedpluto24 3 года назад +3

    It's so bad it gets funny with time

  • @justanonymous2428
    @justanonymous2428 3 года назад +2

    36:18 Distorted Go Ninja Go Ninja Go Ninja

  • @hariman7727
    @hariman7727 2 года назад +1

    Please don't blast the volume on those random joke/cutaway moments. I'm not even wearing earphones and that hurt my ears with the horns at about 38:30.

  • @SB-ji7nj
    @SB-ji7nj 2 года назад

    😂😂😂This analysis is funny

  • @tegla1232
    @tegla1232 4 года назад +4

    A defibrillator is used to slow the heart down not to restart it.

  • @franciscotejada1736
    @franciscotejada1736 2 года назад

    Guy also would have somewhat kept the effort beats talent/genetic given gifts theme pre-Shippuden had.

  • @milesyoungblood7173
    @milesyoungblood7173 3 года назад +4

    27:41 can you at least give a headphone warning

    • @thepnutgallery3860
      @thepnutgallery3860  3 года назад +3

      Yeah I had zero ability to mix sound when I edited this and didn't realize it was THAT much louder. Much apologies lol.

    • @milesyoungblood7173
      @milesyoungblood7173 3 года назад +2

      @@thepnutgallery3860 it’s cool. It was pretty funny

  • @milesyoungblood7173
    @milesyoungblood7173 3 года назад +5

    3:20 😂😂🤣

    • @Pikapool-oi9rs
      @Pikapool-oi9rs 3 года назад +4

      To be fair tobirama killed his brother

  • @HxH2011DRA
    @HxH2011DRA 2 года назад

    Kishi just didn't believe it XDDDDDD

  • @to5ica1lert95
    @to5ica1lert95 2 года назад

    I died at 32:42