I've been reading the comments, and it seems that a lot of the people are talking about how poor quality the base is for how expensive it is. And yes, that is a pretty bad print. If that is how their prints normally turn out, then I wouldn't pay that kind of money for it, but, If they slowed the print speed or used better filament, I would gladly pay more for the kit, or for them to sell the SLT files in their shop so people can print/modify them all they want Now, In Kaiborg's defence, 3D printing is a VERY difficult thing to get right. With my experience, even the best 3d printers can still have a lot of issues. I see people in the comments saying that you could buy a 3D printer and print one cheaper, But I think a lot of these people are not taking into account: 1. How hard it is to model something in 3D that will print correctly 2. The number of failed prints you will go through to not only get everything right but to get it to actually print 3. That you would need a rather high-quality printer to make something that large and detailed 4. How much filament you would use to get it right With what I know about 3D printing, I know it wouldn't be a lot cheaper to do it yourself unless you already have a printer, or ready free access to one, but, by doing it yourself you can customize it to your heart's content, and even make masks for things other than protogens Now, To do this the Kaiborg route, It would be roughly 205$USD +Taxes and shipping, assuming you go with one of the flop visors (Which most of the time, look fine/can be fixed if it means saving 40-100$) For the DIY route, I would still use a Kaiborg flop visor, because, at 20$ + shipping, you can't really go wrong with them I'm also going to assume that you don't have a 3d printer. Most people don't. Before you do any of this, however, I am going to suggest that you print the base in several pieces. This can allow for it to be printed on smaller printers, and if one piece fails to print, the whole print isn't ruined, just that one part. This will, however, make the total time to print go up You actually have more options than you would think, but I'm just going to list 3 for the example: 1. If you know someone who has a 3D printer, you could ask them to do the print for you. As long as you either pay for or provide filament, and give them some compensation for their time, most people would be glad to! 3D printing, for most people, is a hobby after all, and there aren't too many people who would not want to get paid to do their hobby! just be kind and don't pester them too much. 3D prints take a long time! 2. Your local maker space/library! nowadays, with most people living in apartments or small townhouses where they don't have the space for tools and equipment to make things, maker spaces are slowly becoming more and more popular, these are shops that usually, for a membership fee or small donation, let you use their equipment to make stuff. Most of these maker spaces have 3d printers that are open for the public to use. Often times they are really nice ones at that. The only major downside to this, however, is that you may be limited to 2-3 hours at a time for a print. I know my local maker space has a time limit of about 5 hours for non-student prints. This can be solved, however, by printing the mask in pieces, which I had suggested before anyways. Some libraries now are also providing access to 3D printers as a perk of having a library card! it's definitely something to look in to 3. If you are someone who makes fursuits a lot.... Buy a 3d printer! They can be used for a lot more things than you would think, From printing claws and eye sockets for following-me eyes to printing entire bases, a decent 3D printer can be a great investment! This isn't exactly an amazing option if all you want it for is to make a Protogen head, but if you could see yourself using it for a lot of things, go for it! 3D printers have gone down a lot in price as of late, and there are so many on the market for so many different needs! If you look on youtube, you can find a lot of tutorials and reviews for various suit heads and the like, and reddit as well is a good source of info on entry-level 3D printers, and how to use them! I know I said earlier that its hard to get things right, but if you use open-source models, you have a lot less to worry about, and when you get more used to it, you can start to make your own models! I hope that this information is helpful to at least one person looking in to making a protogen head, or really anyone with an interest in 3D printing
Raccoon Butch damn dude, I can see on your channel that you don't have any videos, but I'm gonna subscribe anyway. I was thinking of getting a 3D printer for quite some time, but I think you just convinced me for good ;3
Even if not all their prints turn out like this, why send one out of this bad a quality? They've been selling these for a while and I'd think by now they would have it down so bad prints happen rarely, if at all of the same model.
None of this really excuses a downright shitty product. If I payed that much for a product that came to me on this condition I would be demanding a replacement. If not every print comes out like this it means their prints are inconsistent at best and you're paying the ridiculous price basically for a gamble. You MIGHT get your money's worth or you might not. Idc how hard 3d printing is that's just a terrible business model.
Please make sure to read the subtitles and check the description before asking any question! And don't ask me about the LED coding, I pretty much know nothing about Arduino coding. Please check the tutorials from Adafriut about the led's instead: learn.adafruit.com/search?q=led%2520matrix%2520backpack Edit: I will maybe open for commissions on protogens later this year. But keep in mind that a head like this would cost at least 2000 usd. And protogens are not a closed species, I don't have to get any sort of permission to make this.
@@pikaperishock1478 I haven't figured out the final price yet, I'm just saying at least 2000 so that people don't get too shocked when I have the final price
I used to be heavy into 3D printing until i dropped the hobby, I personally would have never sent out a print like that to a client but i am not running their business so eh Anyway! Here's some stuff I would have recommended to you before you started this project with that base. A 3D pin is great to help build in poorly printed areas, uses the same filliment as well! Products exist to help smooth out 3D prints. You can also use acetone to smooth out prints as well! Most likely with a print like that when it is smoothed it will expose small holes bc the print quality is low, 3D pen those and smooth it back out.
Kaiborg charges a lot for the printed kits, yet the print is so rough, visor isn't cut to fit the best, and the print doesn't even fit the visor initially? Wow....
@@MugiwaraCosplay I've read it, but I don't fully agree or think it excuses the quality of what they sent out. I'll put here what I put in my reply to that comment: Even if not all their prints turn out like this, why send one out of this bad a quality? They've been selling these for a while and I'd think by now they would have it down so bad prints happen rarely, if at all of the same model.
@@Aves_1 To an extent, I agree with you. considering the cost of the kit, they should have probably been a bit more strict with their quality control. If I was doing a print that size for myself, and it turned out like that, I would have no problems with trying to fix it due to the fact that its a large print, and would take a long time, and a lot of plastic to reprint. there are some parts where there is some delamination, that could easily start to fall apart if one was too rough with the sanding, and thus, it would be better to try and fill first. For that reason, I don't think I would sell it, but by the looks of things, kaiborg does a very good job disclosing any problems with their products, just judging by their listings for their flop visors Now, from looking at kaiborg's site, the kit used for this was a "print-only" kit. Meaning that there was no sanding or anything done to the kit at kaiborg, which is likely why it looks so rough (aside from what looks like some layers coming apart) 3d prints, again, even of high quality, will be rough when they are taken off the printer. while it may not look like it, that is a very complicated print with a lot of overhangs, something that does NOT print well, at least in my experience (That freaking goose... 6 times I tried to print it and it never worked!) prints like this fail a LOT, so this may have been the best of 3 or 4 prints. it's those failed prints that people don't see and is likely why it costs as much as it does.
@@cutenomo I'm sorry little 5 year old. 3D prints are so hard to pull off completely smooth. 3D modeling is hard as fuck, the filament is Hella expensive and so are the printers. Even really expensive printers make printing mistakes like that.
Though I do not think I will ever have the money to get the materials I need for this... I appreciate the time you took to help people make a possible future for cosplaying and giving the people who do have the money and materials a way of expressing their love of furries in a way that is impressive and happy... Sadly it will be a long time before I have the money to do this but... Thank you... Even if I can not do this you still deserve the appreciation... I will let people know about you 💙🖤💙🖤
Thank you so much! I've been looking for a good protogen tutorial and you made one!! You're my favorite fursuit maker and a huge inspiration to me! Keep up the amazing work!! :3
Thank you for scrooling through your arduino code. This really helped me. I didn't coppy anything else except the way you set up the matrixes. I was confused on how to declare the arry with 8x8 and 8x16 matrixes.
@@Veehartee but it's not a honest option. I'd rather go for a safer opinion, bc there's a chance you'll go to jail for piracy. I'd rather spend $100+ dollars on a more rough 3d printed visor frame then use your $2,000+ to bail yourself out of jail.
This will be so helpful when I actually get a job, have enough patience, have enough money, and convince my parents that I don’t think I’m an animal!!🤩🤩 And when I actually figure out how to do all this stuff
i painted my entire bedroom in two days. but this seems 100 times harder. EDIT: i learned from painting my bedroom that frogtape is the best tape to use to seal off areas when painting.. its easy to find at any hardware or painting store. also ALSO! use a marker or something to scrape down the tape 100% flat to get a really crisp edge.
Amazing tutorial! I'm planning on getting / making a Protogen Fursuit within a few years from now, so gathering information for it is never a bad idea! Cannot wait to watch Part 2 of the tutorial, thanks! ^^
I have heard you can smooth some of the filament by using a heat gun. Saw it in Sparky's Good To Know paid series. Also, I wonder if making the helmet with EVA foam would be a possibility since it is rigid enough. Probably could be done by making a scale model and taping and such.
I'm still not sure how many of each of the electronics to buy for the eyes, nose and mouth... There are two kinds mugiwara listed but idk how many I need and for which part of the face
I ended up buying a rough cut visor from Kaiborg. I still had alignment issues and have a small gap at the top of the mask, but I went slow while cutting away the excess. Constantly re-checked the fit as I trimmed so I wouldn't need to cut away plastic on the base's chin. If you follow the premade guidelines on the visor, you'll run into the issues in this video. The top of the visor will need the most excess material, especially the top center. The bottom can be cut flush to the guidelines. I left about 2mm of extra material around the sides of the visor that go around the cheeks. The bottom of the sides of the visor will need a lil extra room. For the cheapest but least labor intensive route (I don't have access to Foamcoat), and my needs, I went with one of Kaiborg's discounted resin prints. Mine had minor imperfections that I filled in with Apoxie Sculpt and sanded smooth. Their resin prints are very easy & quick to sand thankfully. I spent $462 on the Kaiborg kit altogether.
the kaiborg diy kits are overpriced the plastic fillament for all costs 5$ and the printing time was max 50h edit: and the quality of the print is nahhhhhhh
Honestly I was going to make a head like this when I got better with furring and with led but a kit is way too much for this bad of quality, I never thought it was that bad but maybe there will be another person that makes kits
@Leaf the Husky I don't either but like what this person said fillament (or whatever it is) is pretty cheap it's mainly just the time they charge (cause it can take a day or more to print something like that and put it together) but if it's the machines all that looks so bad then they need to invest in a new machine cause I looked into and just for the frame (not sanded nor put together meaning you have to put it together) is around 150 I believe, not include the inner and the outside visor which is about other 100 a piece more or less. So all of that is about 400 or more if you want them to put it together or not (not including LEDs or fur obviously) sorry about my rant I just honestly think that's way overpriced
Leaf the Husky no i use 3d printers since 5 years and i know printers under 150$ that do a better job this parts was printed fast and at a high layer hight what is not good ...
Pika peri Shock i made printing commissions to i can print this parts for like 60$ xD ive made some visors by myself and its like 1h of work and costs like 2$ if you make 3-5 at one time
I plan to make my Sona's helmet into a reality, but not necessarily sure about the lights in particular. I remember one person who had a Protogen Head, also had buttons to change expressions at will with a push of a button that ran through their fursuit paw/arm. I kinda had the same idea with mine.
I really love your videos, actualy your videos got me in to the fandom and im thinking of being a fursuit maker because you inspired me, your videos are the best.
Hi, I'm planning to build my own but I'm confused on which LED matrices to buy. For the mouth matrices, did you chain four of the 8x8s for each side? Or is it a full 8x32 matrix? In your description you've only got the 8x8 and the 8x16 matrices listed, so I'm assuming you used the 8x16 for the eyes, and 8x8 for the rest? Also, how did you cut out the circles for the logos on the ears? Thanks in advance :)
To anyone from 2022 onwards Do some research to find an STL of the helmet or frame that you can print so you don't have to drop over $210 on 3D printed frames And plus, you'll be able to control the print quality of the frame Although unless you have some fancy stuff that can print clear or a vacuum press, then you're boned
I’m probably gonna ask my dad to help me with my Protogen Furry Head, my dad has a 3D Printer and he prints Dungeons and Dragons minis, and he’s quite good at it, so I don’t think him helping me print one will be hard. I’ll probably have him help me with the sanding + airbrushing + lighting. I can do the primer myself. Also, fur suits with a Protogen Furry Head can look really cool!
You are so helpful!! I recently got into Protogens and found your channel and these videos And even tho I don’t have the money to afford the pieces I can always ask to get them for Christmas! Lol I’m gonna tell my parents about these when the time comes and if I get the parts I’m gonna show your tutorials to them and end up with my own Protogen! I’m really excited (If all this does and up happening I just need to get my brother into cosplaying with me :D ) (That’s probably never gonna happen tho because I can’t convince my brother to do literally anything with me)
The total cost for the materials I’m getting to make this is 250 which actually isn’t that bad for a fursuit (also some additional money for fur) so I’d recommend saving up and maybe asking for some birthday\Christmas money
Gezz I love this so much also new sub just wanted to say that the head vids you posted helped me on making my head so ima make one today or tomorrow :D
hi!! I have a question! :0 I have to build 2 protogen one from kaiborg and the another one from chilsen, in both, elecronic frontal part is heavy so I dont know how to balance that, im not sure if add ears and foam inside will be enough :0 any help? thank you!
I know you requested not for people to ask about the wiring but I am currently working on getting a full material list and prices and I wanted to know how meny Aruduino chip things you used. (Was it one for each side or did you figure out how to use one for the whole face)
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I'm honestly shocked at how poor quality the Kaiborg 3d printed base was considering how dang expencive they are.
Oni Zazel Ikr
Oni Zazel I think it’s cause the rolls of plastic costs a lot and the time it took to print it but idk :P
@@lovelymanguu46 nope, those rolls don t cost that much
same, pretty dissapointed
Everybody, read @Raccoon Butch 's comment
I've been reading the comments, and it seems that a lot of the people are talking about how poor quality the base is for how expensive it is. And yes, that is a pretty bad print. If that is how their prints normally turn out, then I wouldn't pay that kind of money for it, but, If they slowed the print speed or used better filament, I would gladly pay more for the kit, or for them to sell the SLT files in their shop so people can print/modify them all they want
Now, In Kaiborg's defence, 3D printing is a VERY difficult thing to get right. With my experience, even the best 3d printers can still have a lot of issues. I see people in the comments saying that you could buy a 3D printer and print one cheaper, But I think a lot of these people are not taking into account:
1. How hard it is to model something in 3D that will print correctly
2. The number of failed prints you will go through to not only get everything right but to get it to actually print
3. That you would need a rather high-quality printer to make something that large and detailed
4. How much filament you would use to get it right
With what I know about 3D printing, I know it wouldn't be a lot cheaper to do it yourself unless you already have a printer, or ready free access to one, but, by doing it yourself you can customize it to your heart's content, and even make masks for things other than protogens
Now, To do this the Kaiborg route, It would be roughly 205$USD +Taxes and shipping, assuming you go with one of the flop visors (Which most of the time, look fine/can be fixed if it means saving 40-100$)
For the DIY route, I would still use a Kaiborg flop visor, because, at 20$ + shipping, you can't really go wrong with them
I'm also going to assume that you don't have a 3d printer. Most people don't.
Before you do any of this, however, I am going to suggest that you print the base in several pieces. This can allow for it to be printed on smaller printers, and if one piece fails to print, the whole print isn't ruined, just that one part. This will, however, make the total time to print go up
You actually have more options than you would think, but I'm just going to list 3 for the example:
1. If you know someone who has a 3D printer, you could ask them to do the print for you. As long as you either pay for or provide filament, and give them some compensation for their time, most people would be glad to! 3D printing, for most people, is a hobby after all, and there aren't too many people who would not want to get paid to do their hobby! just be kind and don't pester them too much. 3D prints take a long time!
2. Your local maker space/library! nowadays, with most people living in apartments or small townhouses where they don't have the space for tools and equipment to make things, maker spaces are slowly becoming more and more popular, these are shops that usually, for a membership fee or small donation, let you use their equipment to make stuff. Most of these maker spaces have 3d printers that are open for the public to use. Often times they are really nice ones at that. The only major downside to this, however, is that you may be limited to 2-3 hours at a time for a print. I know my local maker space has a time limit of about 5 hours for non-student prints. This can be solved, however, by printing the mask in pieces, which I had suggested before anyways. Some libraries now are also providing access to 3D printers as a perk of having a library card! it's definitely something to look in to
3. If you are someone who makes fursuits a lot.... Buy a 3d printer! They can be used for a lot more things than you would think, From printing claws and eye sockets for following-me eyes to printing entire bases, a decent 3D printer can be a great investment! This isn't exactly an amazing option if all you want it for is to make a Protogen head, but if you could see yourself using it for a lot of things, go for it! 3D printers have gone down a lot in price as of late, and there are so many on the market for so many different needs! If you look on youtube, you can find a lot of tutorials and reviews for various suit heads and the like, and reddit as well is a good source of info on entry-level 3D printers, and how to use them! I know I said earlier that its hard to get things right, but if you use open-source models, you have a lot less to worry about, and when you get more used to it, you can start to make your own models!
I hope that this information is helpful to at least one person looking in to making a protogen head, or really anyone with an interest in 3D printing
Raccoon Butch damn dude, I can see on your channel that you don't have any videos, but I'm gonna subscribe anyway. I was thinking of getting a 3D printer for quite some time, but I think you just convinced me for good ;3
Raccoon Butch thank you for telling!
Even if not all their prints turn out like this, why send one out of this bad a quality? They've been selling these for a while and I'd think by now they would have it down so bad prints happen rarely, if at all of the same model.
Avaline Sky yeh
None of this really excuses a downright shitty product. If I payed that much for a product that came to me on this condition I would be demanding a replacement. If not every print comes out like this it means their prints are inconsistent at best and you're paying the ridiculous price basically for a gamble. You MIGHT get your money's worth or you might not. Idc how hard 3d printing is that's just a terrible business model.
Basically a technology tutorial...
Lol
TO BE CONTINUED...
I just love the "TO BE CONTINUED..." part in your comments XD
U are anywere
Please make sure to read the subtitles and check the description before asking any question!
And don't ask me about the LED coding, I pretty much know nothing about Arduino coding. Please check the tutorials from Adafriut about the led's instead: learn.adafruit.com/search?q=led%2520matrix%2520backpack
Edit: I will maybe open for commissions on protogens later this year. But keep in mind that a head like this would cost at least 2000 usd.
And protogens are not a closed species, I don't have to get any sort of permission to make this.
ok:D
Mugiwara Cosplay wow!!! This is amazing!!! Holy crap you are awesome!
That's honestly pretty cheap for a head like this, I've seen some go up to 3,000 just for one color and face
One question, i have an original species (as you can see by my pfp) its a squareface dragon i dunno if you could make it, i want just the head
@@pikaperishock1478 I haven't figured out the final price yet, I'm just saying at least 2000 so that people don't get too shocked when I have the final price
This is going to be useful one day in the future when I’m rich and have money!
moooodddd
I wanna fursuit ;w;
@@josephparks8975 So do I. I'll convince my parents to download and print Mugiwara's bear template, and use their tutorial to make Taki come to life
I'm getting a job--
*Hopefully not babysitting*
I agree with this vibe. I desire fursuit but do not have the money aswell so like *yes*
I used to be heavy into 3D printing until i dropped the hobby, I personally would have never sent out a print like that to a client but i am not running their business so eh
Anyway! Here's some stuff I would have recommended to you before you started this project with that base.
A 3D pin is great to help build in poorly printed areas, uses the same filliment as well! Products exist to help smooth out 3D prints. You can also use acetone to smooth out prints as well! Most likely with a print like that when it is smoothed it will expose small holes bc the print quality is low, 3D pen those and smooth it back out.
Kaiborg charges a lot for the printed kits, yet the print is so rough, visor isn't cut to fit the best, and the print doesn't even fit the visor initially? Wow....
Please read @Raccoon Butch 's comment
@@MugiwaraCosplay I've read it, but I don't fully agree or think it excuses the quality of what they sent out. I'll put here what I put in my reply to that comment: Even if not all their prints turn out like this, why send one out of this bad a quality? They've been selling these for a while and I'd think by now they would have it down so bad prints happen rarely, if at all of the same model.
Avaline Sky yeh
It is just trial and error. Nothing will be perfect, especially something like this.
@@Aves_1 To an extent, I agree with you. considering the cost of the kit, they should have probably been a bit more strict with their quality control. If I was doing a print that size for myself, and it turned out like that, I would have no problems with trying to fix it due to the fact that its a large print, and would take a long time, and a lot of plastic to reprint. there are some parts where there is some delamination, that could easily start to fall apart if one was too rough with the sanding, and thus, it would be better to try and fill first. For that reason, I don't think I would sell it, but by the looks of things, kaiborg does a very good job disclosing any problems with their products, just judging by their listings for their flop visors
Now, from looking at kaiborg's site, the kit used for this was a "print-only" kit. Meaning that there was no sanding or anything done to the kit at kaiborg, which is likely why it looks so rough (aside from what looks like some layers coming apart) 3d prints, again, even of high quality, will be rough when they are taken off the printer.
while it may not look like it, that is a very complicated print with a lot of overhangs, something that does NOT print well, at least in my experience (That freaking goose... 6 times I tried to print it and it never worked!) prints like this fail a LOT, so this may have been the best of 3 or 4 prints. it's those failed prints that people don't see and is likely why it costs as much as it does.
straight to the point, no talking, helpful.
it's a shame the bases arent the best of quality but theyre still pretty good
the qality is the lower low end of 3d printing i even dont know how you print in this bad quality
@@cutenomo I'm sorry little 5 year old. 3D prints are so hard to pull off completely smooth. 3D modeling is hard as fuck, the filament is Hella expensive and so are the printers. Even really expensive printers make printing mistakes like that.
@@cutenomo what are you talking about? A lot of stuff is similar in quality to this for bigger stuff.
@@dismas_mersiv agree
For the price it should be a bit better imo but I know it's hard to pull off
I’m SOOO making one next year. Ty for the tutorial
Ok. Now make it
I already made one
Though I do not think I will ever have the money to get the materials I need for this... I appreciate the time you took to help people make a possible future for cosplaying and giving the people who do have the money and materials a way of expressing their love of furries in a way that is impressive and happy... Sadly it will be a long time before I have the money to do this but... Thank you... Even if I can not do this you still deserve the appreciation... I will let people know about you 💙🖤💙🖤
Yesss! I’ve been wanting a tutorial on these guys because there are barely any on them. Thank you!
*Finally a worthy tutorial!*
*My head will be legendary!*
This is amazing Mugiwara!!! I love these!!! Keep up the amazing work ;D
Like the new music! Can’t wait for part 2!
for the people that dislike you are just lazy this person does a perfect way of showing and EVEN PUTS THE STUFF IN THE DIS like
Thank you so much! I've been looking for a good protogen tutorial and you made one!! You're my favorite fursuit maker and a huge inspiration to me! Keep up the amazing work!! :3
Good job
Your protogen looks soo nice and neat! I'd love to have a protogen as my fursona!
What’s stopping you? The more of us toasters the better.
@@adonian true
yeah you dont need a fancy shmancy protogen fursuit to have one as your fursona >w
Thank you for scrooling through your arduino code. This really helped me. I didn't coppy anything else except the way you set up the matrixes. I was confused on how to declare the arry with 8x8 and 8x16 matrixes.
for the money of the 3d printed parts you can get a 3d printer that can print you the parts xD
Most people don’t have the money nor programs for getting a 3D printer
@@ArcticTFurry Then you steal. Piracy is always an option.
Most people dont know how to use the software or dont want a 3d printer for a one time use
@@Veehartee but it's not a honest option. I'd rather go for a safer opinion, bc there's a chance you'll go to jail for piracy. I'd rather spend $100+ dollars on a more rough 3d printed visor frame then use your $2,000+ to bail yourself out of jail.
@@fallen_vague28 VPNs exist you won't get caught. work smarter not harder also the parts can be bought if you want it easier.
My mothers bf might make me a protogen! Yay!
Best (nearly) step dad ever!
Omg thank you! You have given me the chance to finally make Rico the protogen!
I am not very much of a furry myself but this looks really cool!
I’m planning on making one of these with my friend for his first furry convention so Tysm!
The problem is: how to wash protogen suits?
You do that very carefully, and always wear a balaclava when using the head
Do not full dunk them, instead get s slightly damn cloth and clean the inside of the faux fur or lining. DO NOT go near the wires or LEDs.
Or just clean it with a non conductive liquid im pretty good at cleaning electronics lol (i have had to clean my pc more than 20 times)
Damn bro I just stick mine in the dishwasher
@@yo_is_that_a_furry9096 Hehe protogen murder go BRRR
This will be so helpful when I actually get a job, have enough patience, have enough money, and convince my parents that I don’t think I’m an animal!!🤩🤩
And when I actually figure out how to do all this stuff
i painted my entire bedroom in two days. but this seems 100 times harder.
EDIT: i learned from painting my bedroom that frogtape is the best tape to use to seal off areas when painting.. its easy to find at any hardware or painting store. also ALSO! use a marker or something to scrape down the tape 100% flat to get a really crisp edge.
I can't get over how incredible this looks damn!
asfgjkghk didn't expect to find you here xD
Amazing!i wish I can make suits like you! You are my inspiration
This is awesome. A eva foam tutorial for this would be much appreciated
Thanks mugiwara, this will help in my future :^
This feels like it was made in 2015.
I love it
Even as a non-furry I still think this is too clever
honestly it could have been optimized and compacted to hell but its the idea behind the craft.
The best fursuit maker on RUclips! :D
will you do a foam protogem tutorial too?
I might do one, as i might be making a foam protogen head!
Yes
@@MugiwaraCosplay YESS!!! THANK YOU! YOU ARE THE BESTS!!!
sorry for the delay.
Maria you are Truly an Amazing Artist.
:o
I MUST DO THIS
Imma just send this to mah Mum quickly-
Amazing tutorial!
I'm planning on getting / making a Protogen Fursuit within a few years from now, so gathering information for it is never a bad idea!
Cannot wait to watch Part 2 of the tutorial, thanks! ^^
I have heard you can smooth some of the filament by using a heat gun. Saw it in Sparky's Good To Know paid series. Also, I wonder if making the helmet with EVA foam would be a possibility since it is rigid enough. Probably could be done by making a scale model and taping and such.
thanks so much for teaching me this now i wear my protogen's suit everyday
Love your suit
Tysm
After making one of these myself, I can safely say I hate the smell of superglue and it was a pain. But it was a learning experience nonetheless
I'm still not sure how many of each of the electronics to buy for the eyes, nose and mouth... There are two kinds mugiwara listed but idk how many I need and for which part of the face
@@Username70 I used 4 EL panels (2 eyes 2 ears) and one EL wire. I didn’t use LEDs so I couldn’t change the expression, but it was cheaper
What base did you get earhole or no earhole I’m confused if the earhole version still comes with the ear panels
@@funnyman4664 I used a kaiborg base like this
I ended up buying a rough cut visor from Kaiborg. I still had alignment issues and have a small gap at the top of the mask, but I went slow while cutting away the excess. Constantly re-checked the fit as I trimmed so I wouldn't need to cut away plastic on the base's chin. If you follow the premade guidelines on the visor, you'll run into the issues in this video.
The top of the visor will need the most excess material, especially the top center. The bottom can be cut flush to the guidelines. I left about 2mm of extra material around the sides of the visor that go around the cheeks. The bottom of the sides of the visor will need a lil extra room.
For the cheapest but least labor intensive route (I don't have access to Foamcoat), and my needs, I went with one of Kaiborg's discounted resin prints. Mine had minor imperfections that I filled in with Apoxie Sculpt and sanded smooth. Their resin prints are very easy & quick to sand thankfully. I spent $462 on the Kaiborg kit altogether.
When I realize I have to program my suit 1:09
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I dont get it
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Seeing you use such a sharp tool with bare hands makes me anxious, but apart from that good video! Very good work
I literally stopped watching my show to watch this lmao
Thank you for this tutorial it will be a lot of help in future projects
the kaiborg diy kits are overpriced the plastic fillament for all costs 5$ and the printing time was max 50h
edit: and the quality of the print is nahhhhhhh
Honestly I was going to make a head like this when I got better with furring and with led but a kit is way too much for this bad of quality, I never thought it was that bad but maybe there will be another person that makes kits
@Leaf the Husky I don't either but like what this person said fillament (or whatever it is) is pretty cheap it's mainly just the time they charge (cause it can take a day or more to print something like that and put it together) but if it's the machines all that looks so bad then they need to invest in a new machine cause I looked into and just for the frame (not sanded nor put together meaning you have to put it together) is around 150 I believe, not include the inner and the outside visor which is about other 100 a piece more or less. So all of that is about 400 or more if you want them to put it together or not (not including LEDs or fur obviously) sorry about my rant I just honestly think that's way overpriced
Please read @Raccoon Butch 's comment
Leaf the Husky no i use 3d printers since 5 years and i know printers under 150$ that do a better job this parts was printed fast and at a high layer hight what is not good ...
Pika peri Shock i made printing commissions to i can print this parts for like 60$ xD ive made some visors by myself and its like 1h of work and costs like 2$ if you make 3-5 at one time
My mom said that if we have enough by my birthday (August 7th) she'll get me the things I need for a protogen, very excited.
Hi
Ty for the tutorial! Might use it next year when I go to the US
I plan to make my Sona's helmet into a reality, but not necessarily sure about the lights in particular. I remember one person who had a Protogen Head, also had buttons to change expressions at will with a push of a button that ran through their fursuit paw/arm. I kinda had the same idea with mine.
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wow, you did a great job doing that by yourself
I shall make a protogon now :) thanks for showing us how to make it
I am part of the protogen family and it came out good
I might have to buy a 3D printer this tbh looks like a lot of fun
this is so cool !
please keep it up your a very good maker !
omg maria, thank you SO MUCH! I was having so much trouble trying to find a tutorial like this. you helped me a lot. thank you!
I really love your videos, actualy your videos got me in to the fandom and im thinking of being a fursuit maker because you inspired me, your videos are the best.
Hi, I'm planning to build my own but I'm confused on which LED matrices to buy. For the mouth matrices, did you chain four of the 8x8s for each side? Or is it a full 8x32 matrix? In your description you've only got the 8x8 and the 8x16 matrices listed, so I'm assuming you used the 8x16 for the eyes, and 8x8 for the rest?
Also, how did you cut out the circles for the logos on the ears?
Thanks in advance :)
Wooooo my brain hurts now lol
The sona looks great so far! Good job
Amazing!I love the colors!
This will be helpful for my main OC
*Green screen!*
I know she haves a stupid
But it matches her fur and backstory
I started mecathronic classes this year, it will be great with this furry stuff, moving tails, wings hehe
To anyone from 2022 onwards
Do some research to find an STL of the helmet or frame that you can print so you don't have to drop over $210 on 3D printed frames
And plus, you'll be able to control the print quality of the frame
Although unless you have some fancy stuff that can print clear or a vacuum press, then you're boned
that manequin is so lucky to where the protogen head.
and btw the printing is so expensive!
Just became a patron love your work!
The people who made it have worked on making these better.
omg i always waited for a protogen totorial😍
I really enjoy your videos so much thanks for teach me how to do fursuits
I might turn my old airsoft helmet into a sort of protogen mask. 💜🖤
yay! i was hoping to see this! ❤
You have a new subscriber :) really cool protogen head! Are you going to make a full bodysuit?
Oooo you use Arduino UNO, I'm proud
Thanks! Im am Currently making DOGGO XTRABYTE.
I’m probably gonna ask my dad to help me with my Protogen Furry Head, my dad has a 3D Printer and he prints Dungeons and Dragons minis, and he’s quite good at it, so I don’t think him helping me print one will be hard. I’ll probably have him help me with the sanding + airbrushing + lighting. I can do the primer myself. Also, fur suits with a Protogen Furry Head can look really cool!
You are so helpful!!
I recently got into Protogens and found your channel and these videos
And even tho I don’t have the money to afford the pieces
I can always ask to get them for Christmas! Lol
I’m gonna tell my parents about these when the time comes and if I get the parts I’m gonna show your tutorials to them and end up with my own Protogen!
I’m really excited
(If all this does and up happening I just need to get my brother into cosplaying with me :D )
(That’s probably never gonna happen tho because I can’t convince my brother to do literally anything with me)
The total cost for the materials I’m getting to make this is 250 which actually isn’t that bad for a fursuit (also some additional money for fur) so I’d recommend saving up and maybe asking for some birthday\Christmas money
OooOOoOoo I’m so happy u did this it’s so helpful. I needed it
I’m supporting your channel this year!! Added your merch to the Christmas list secret furry in school 😂😂 happy thanksgiving or Christmas
This is real helpful! I want to ask my mom to make this I think she might say it’s too complicated :/
Das is beautiful protogen head
Hey, you've got some cool fursuits.
Gezz I love this so much also new sub just wanted to say that the head vids you posted helped me on making my head so ima make one today or tomorrow :D
This is why I've been looking at buying of Etsy sellers,I've seen so many bad quality kalborg ones it's unreal
im a furry i like that protogen head you made its not that poor quality its looks great ignore the other commets. ITS NOT POOR QUALITY UNDERSTAND
I NEED IT(yes it’s not for sale but it’s so cute)
Looking hella nice
I have question...the led EL panels in plastic "ears"...you squish it there or you can cut the eadges to put it there?
Ok, but how did u connect the two 16x8 panels for the mouthpieces? Did u cut the backpacks?
If you have a 3D printer, there are a bunch of bases on thingiverse only problem if the clear visor part
I cant wait to get my own 🥺
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I wish I could commission from you ❤
Your craftiness and originality is so awesome!
But I couldn't afford one and I'm too little 😭
hi!! I have a question! :0 I have to build 2 protogen one from kaiborg and the another one from chilsen, in both, elecronic frontal part is heavy so I dont know how to balance that, im not sure if add ears and foam inside will be enough :0 any help? thank you!
nobody:
Me: Buys something they have in the description and feels special about it
I know you requested not for people to ask about the wiring but I am currently working on getting a full material list and prices and I wanted to know how meny Aruduino chip things you used. (Was it one for each side or did you figure out how to use one for the whole face)
Also also do I need the adafruit matrixes? Because I found cheaper ones but I'm not sure if they'll work with the arduino uno
Cool protogen