I had a few minutes to sneak around the museum with my mobile 'phone camera. Just to show you what's there if you are debating taking the time to visit.
"with my mobile 'phone camera." Do you see that. Do you see how this man out grammars us all? Do you see this man's attention to detail and knowledge of the past. Do you see the apostrophe on the word "'phone" he does not neglect the fact that it used to be called a "telephone." Amazing.
You have two clauses in the penultimate sentence. You probably meant: Do you see the apostrophe on the word "'phone"? He does not neglect the fact that it used to be called a "telephone". Amazing. Having two clauses in a sentence without any punctuation separating them is usually incorrect syntax. You can also have a compound clause structure with a coordinating conjunction between the independent clauses. For the Brits wondering, the full stop inside quotation marks is actually correct if you are American. It seems to have originated from typesetting rules about two centuries ago. Full stops outside quotation marks leave a gap between sentences, which allegedly looks bad. It's similar to how people today have problems placing smileys in brackets--"(hi :))" looks wrong, but "(hi :)" is not balanced correctly. British people would probably put the full stop outside, given the original quotation does not have a full stop after "phone".
Oddly, I learned in Ireland (so generally British rules) to put the full stop within the question marks. However, upon further thought and research, I have moved to only putting punctuation which is actually being quoted in between the marks.
The tractor and wagon haul everyone's shit, parts, packs......you name it. It looks like a Fordson Major. but I bet it's a Hannomag or something.I'm betting it would start right up and go. EMP's don't take out that kinda tech !!!
The Centurion Mk.10 is called Stridsvagn 101, it was our forst tank with a over 10cm gun. Our Mk.3 was called Stridsvagn 81, becuase it was the first with a gun above 8cm. If I remember correctly the Greyhound was captured and used in Kongo in the earlie 60s. The MT-LB (PBV401 in Sweden) and BMP-1 (PBV501) was bought in the earlie 90s.
And when the Strv 101 and Strv 102 was uppdated, they became Strv 101R and Strv 102R (R for "Renovated and modified), but the next time around they became the Strv 104, while the Strv 103, became the Strv 103B and later the Strv 103C, rather than Strv 103R or Strv 105. So we had a very logical system. It's just that we changed the system for every new vehicle and often several times for the same vehicle. As a further example, the first APC's were the Pbv 301, followed by the Pbv 302. (whle the 200-series was used for non armoured tracked vehcles). The next one after that was not the Pbv 303, but the Pbv 401 and Pbv 501. And for the CV90 they changed the system again to the Strf9040. Then they reverted back to the 300-series, but skiped a few numbers for the BV 308 (that is armoured, but not designated as armoured), the BV 309 and the n the BV 410.
Yea this Naming Scheme was adopted after ww2 so all vehicles from the 50s and on uses this. Strv for example is the 4th vehicle with a 75mm gun. The Leopard in Swedish service were the Strv 121 (2A4s leased but since returned to Germany) as they were first with 12cm guns and the Current Leo 2s are the Strv 122 (Swedish built variant and the one seen in the video) as they are the second as so on. the IKV 91 also follows this so its not just tanks (First vehicle with 90mm gun). The system might be confusing at first but its a logical naming scheme once you understand it .
18:08 Sweden bought East German MTLB's and BMP-1's in the mid 90's to mechanize the large softskin only infantry brigades. Then in 2004 it was in divine wisdom decided to scrap all the infatry brigades and the use for those vehichles dissapeared. I did my military service in 2002-2003 as part of a RBS-56 ATGM platton and we used MTLB's (Swedish designation PBV-401).
@@herrakaarme it was after the Cold War when "Eastern Germany" sold of that shit pretty cheap. And since full mechanization had not been reached yet, it was a quick way to do so.
1016 MTLB:s was bought for around 600k SEK each ($60k) . 550 was renovated and the rest was scrapped for parts. There is roumor that Gemany placed the MTLB:s on a field, the swedish army bought the field, removed the vehicles, then sold the land back to Germany.
16:20 The RBS-70 is not laser _homing_ , it is a beam rider. The laser sweeps - left to right and then up and down - over the line-of-sight in coded pulses. The missile reads the pulses with a sensor in the back (which is why the rocket engine exhaust is on the mid body of the missile and not the rear) and this tells the missile where it is in relation to the line-of-sight to the target.
When I did my military service we had the MTLB, called Pbv401 in Swedish service after some changes. They were rather rough around edges but quite solid vehicles. I served in an ATGM (RB56 BILL) unit and we used the 401 as battle taxi..
@@Masada1911 yes i did. standing next to the real tanks und see how big they are is really interesting (the sherman is much taller as i thought, for example). for a fan of tnaks and stuff i can recommend a visit (if possible after the whole pandemic stuff...)
Thanks for the tour! According to a recent post on the Swedish Tank Archives, the Sherman deal (for 50 tanks IIRC) failed due to inability to secure a comprehensive spare parts package. I guess the army didn't want to get stuck with an increasing pile of junk, but it sounds like there could be more to uncover.
The "Coffin" was (IIRC) given the nickname because it slightly resembles a coffin for burial when viewed from above. Add poor armor and open topped troop space and you can see where it got it from.
Yeah, it was a stop-gap measure before the arguably better stop gap measure of the pbv 301 until the proper APC sollution of the pbv 302 came around :) The KP-bil m/42 was in service until the late 90'ies though. Used on Gotland long after it became horribly obsolete.
I wouldn't call it a stop gap? It was developed during the WWII to get cheap spliter and small arms-protected transport to the tanks-forces. In the beginning it wasn't even armed with guns.
pew-pew That it worked ok, doesn't change the fact that it was a stop gap for an APC, just like the pbv. 301. Had it been a halftrack, I might have agreed to it not beeing a stop gap.
Where they got the MT-LB from? Former East Germany, the Swedish Army bought about 800 of them at practically scrap price in 1993. Makes sense as the Bundeswehr probably wanted nothing to do with them. About 600 were upgraded to Swedish standards and got used in the usual variety of applications that APCs do. Called Pansarbandvagn (Pbv) 401, or "Armoured tracked carrier" in Swedish service. And yes, they plonked a 40mm Bofors turret on some of them, think that was for the Polish army.
A quick note on the Czech designs you mentioned. 3:35 Strv m/37, CKD AH-IV-based, made in Sweden under license after a rather hostile takeover happened in Czechoslovakia (you may have heard of this, it was widely publicized at the time). They went straight to the scrap heap in 1953. 5:16 we see a Sav m/43 (Stormartillerivagn/Assault Gun Carrier) a.k.a "the clog". The Army stopped production of the m/41, and used the last 18 of the chassis to make these. 6:16 Strv m/41 was a license-built TNH (a.k.a Pz 38t). Same backstory as the m/37. All of these (except for the ones in museums) were rebuilt into Pbv 301. which brings us to: 9:56 Pbv 301. ALL Pbv 301 came from existing m/41 tanks. So this particular 301 used to be a m/41. Same thing happened with Strv m/42, they were all reborn as Strv 74 (with lethal results for the crewmen).
I recently went to Sweden and planned to visit arsenalen. Unfortunately, unforseen circumstances prevented me to do so. Therefore I'm very happy with this video, it could not have come on a better time for me :D Thank you very much!
Thank you for going through that, as i play more then World of tanks i also Mess around with Wargame: Red Dragon an RTS and most of the time i use the Scandinavian Coalition it's cool to see all of these vehicles in a museum from halfway around the world.
The Rbs 70 is a very interesting surface-to-air missile. The only SAM that´s a laser beam rider if I remember correctly. The missile itself isn't in any way aware of the target until it gets within range of the proximity detonator as the laser receiver is in the rear end of the missile looking back towards the launcher and the laser emitter.
Kenneth André Hansen thing is they are still developing it and the modern variants have autotracking optical sight and laser painter (within limits of course). Thus it kinda becomes locking system. Advantage is the missile is dirt cheap. Comparatively. And also kinda jamming proof as laser rider. When there is no seeker head on the missile a) you can't fool the missile and the operator is guiding the launcher optics b) it only needs dirt simple laser sensors in the back. Thus cheaper and also more room for bang since that laser sensor probably weights way less than a full optical or radar seeker. Which means for the trifty Swedes, more missiles for the lads and faster. Also not rhowing expensive seeker head away with every missile. Just reuse multiple times on launcher. Down side? The operators and launcher/guider becomes a target.
Im pretty sure that MT-LB was bought dirt cheap from East Germany along with a bunch of BMP-1s when the swedish infantry went through its mechanization phase.
That's right. Back in those days, Finland bought a lot of stuff from there too, including MTLBs. Why not - it was cheaper than the price for scrap metal, but still useful.
17:57 Ah, sweet sweet memories of the army times, sleeping at the back of an MTLBV during maneuver training... ...And the not so sweet memories of continuously training boarding it and disembarking.
I've being there this summer. Was just driving by and SUDDENLY!!11one a tank standing by the road! Then I saw the barn. And "hey! I know this place! I have to pull over and go in!"
The T-55 AM2 was the last Tank built in the GDR an after the Cold War Ends the NVA (East German Army) no longer exists Sweden bought a couple of the T55AM2 s for testing and thats the story
Unremarkable perhaps, but the Swedish military liked them surprisingly well. Very good flotation and cross-country mobility and quite good ride quality for a Soviet vehicle. The BMP-1s wasn't liked at all as much...
On the contrary!!! Trabi IS NOT AWEFUL!!! It is a child of east german ingenuity in adoption to soviet supression! It is a light 4 seater and easy to maintain. My first car was the station wagon version of it. Due to bad workshop maintenance I lost a sealing cap of the gear box in Denmark. Fixed it with a jam glass lid and an some sealing compound and drove back to Weimar (~450mi) safely. Beat that with your Reliant Robin SIR!!!
I think they are the armed forces vehicle museum, not a tank museum. There was a tank museum before in Axvall, but it was closed to move their vehicles to Arsenalen.
Pretty sure that "bandkanon" is actually an Akv 151 and thats the only one made if i'm not wrong, it used one of the kranvagn hulls but due to being cheaper and probably a bit more reliable the bandkanon which used the 103 hull was chosen over it
Since +TheChieftainWot stumbled a little over what to call the Mk10 tank - Cold War and later Swedish tanks are designated by their main gun caliber in centimeters, followed by a number indicating which model of tank with a given caliber it is. So Strv 101 is the first tank with a 10 cm gun (the classification for which includes the 105 mm gun), Strv 122 is the second tank with a 12 cm gun (that's the modern Leopard 2S by the way), Ikv 91 is the first infantry support track (AKA "light tank", except it's more of an assault gun) with a 9 cm gun, etc. The number is not exclusive to a given vehicle, so you can have an Strv 121 and an Ikv 121 at the same time. This only applies to cold war and later things though, and only to tanks and other direct fire vehicles. Older vehicles use a "model of [year of adoption]" system like "Stridsvagn m/42" for a tank adopted in 1942, a system which is supposedly obsolete but was resurrected in the early 1990s (for a while every new piece of kit in the Swedish army was named m/90 - the Psg 90 sniper rifle, the Ag 90 anti-materiel rifle, the m/90 uniform, the Strf 90 infantry fighting vehicle... all to show that the Army was renewing itself for the 90s).
Sweden has alot of MTLB's. Bought in bulk for 1 SEK per Kilogram (MG included). Did my service as a mechanized platoon leader, had three of these. Two were regular infantry carriers and the third were modified to carry the Rb56 and 6 crew i believe.
you saying the Swedish are famous for the 40mm bofors remind me of the fact that some of the most popular anti-aircraft weapons were Swedish or swiss (like the 20mm oerlikon) kinda funny the biggest war in human history is happening around them and they're just sitting rubbing they're hand together at all the money from licensing contracts
Well Sweden did not make as much as we would have. As the biggest producer of the 40mm bofors gun of ww2 was the US and they made them without a license. (They got the papers from the British who had a license and Illegally started to mass produce them). The US had already been in talks with Sweden about getting a license but In return Sweden wanted a License for Aircraft (Sweden had already ordered a number of aircraft the year before and wanted a License to build more of them in Sweden under license in exchange for the License for the Bofors 40mm) During the time of the conversations the US put an embargo on military equipment to Sweden (All European nations not a part of the allies) thus preventing the shipment of the Majority of the aircraft Sweden had already ordered (Sweden only got 62 out of the 254 aircraft they had ordered and paid for) and at that point the talks about the Bofors 40mm ended as Sweden was understandably annoyed at that point. The US still wanted and needed the gun so the Brits Copied and Smuggled a set of plans to the US and the production was started. After the production had started some type of deal was reached with Bofors but at this point the US was pretty much able to state their terms as they would just make them anyway so the price / compensation was allot lower then it should have been and Sweden never got the rest of the aircraft they had ordered.
It wasn't really them sitting rubbing their hands together making money, it was them sitting there in a partially terrified state of "Oh boy which of the three major powers will invade us?" (Allies, Soviets, Germans)
14:57 These things are so cool. I drove them in the army and driving on snow is so smooth because of the light weight of the vehicle and the width of the tracks
If you want to do an inside the Hatch on the Bandkanon travel to Boden the "Föreningen P5" has one that's operational what's in the Arsenalen is the prototype based on the hull of a Swedish heavy tank that was never put into production ! The Bandkanon production version is based on the S tank hull !
would love to see more detail on all these tanks which should keep you busy, we wouldn't want you to run out of tanks for inside the hatch. I'm particularly looking forward to watching you climbing about in the S-Tank
When you're talking about swedish tanks having skoda suspension around the 3:30 mark you are actually filming a Strv m/37 which is a skoda tankette ! So no wonder it has skoda suspension
It is not a Skoda tankette.It is designed and manufactured by CKD and sold to Sweden. The LT vz 35 also known as Pz 35(t) is a Skoda vehicle.The famous LT vz 38 was also a CKD-design.
the mtlb as well as bmp1 was bought in bulk from basically a russian scrapyard in the -90s as a stop gap vehicle until all forces was equipped with the cv90. i served in one of those right there.
One of my this with the Swedish peacekeeping in Kosovo, early 2000, was in a 302. This while we had cv90 (which i later served in). I have very little love for the 302 myself and there is very little positive I heard of it that wasn't based on "it's what we got assigned to us. There is ofc the fact that vehicles such as these in low threat peacekeeping roles, in comparison to a non heavy weapon equiped civilian population that don't want to kill the peacekeepers (compare Kosovo vs Iraq circumference), is way more than capable to be the apex military authority (since there is nothing else) . That in turn, maybe/ ofc (?), goes out the window in countries things go bad (~2006 Iraq). The 302 was, to me as far as peacekeeping vehicles goes, a great such vehicle until you actually needed it. I never doubted the CV90 though. Peacekeeping in that one was a pleasurable experiment. But if anything, serving in a 302 -meanwhile- you could have had a cv90 by mkt that 10 years margin, was absolutely astonishingly silly to me. It's like getting a biplane in the year 1943 and told to guard the border it smh
They probably got the MTLB from their own military. Friend of mine is Swedish and drove them in the Army. Apparently the Swede's bought a bunch cheap in the 90's post Cold War.
Thanks for this illuminative video peak, into Swedish armour, ..well, 'a musea', may this include other future Hatches opened, links prodded, clevises inspected & interiors explored - Thank you.
This suspension (LT vz. 38 or Panzer 38t) was actually designed and manufactured by ČKD, not Škoda. Škoda designed the LT vz. 35 (Panzer 35t) and offered an improved version against this design. The ČKD design won in trials. Swedes got a complete documentation with blueprints for a licence production.
Model T Ford in a tank museum, hah I have a neighbor with one of those (It was the husband's grandmother's) sitting in a two car garage for at least 15 years (that's because I'm only 15 and I have not asked them about it) and boy the kids and especially the wife are probably still mad and puzzled as to why no work on it has been done on it for a long time, especially when there are 3 cars and less than enough room for a Coleman mini bike.
Wonderful!! it felt like I was actually there! I'm waiting (not to patiently) for your Inside the hatch of the Strv. m/42-57 for my world of tanks experience and also the Bandkanon for my general enlightenment. An SPG with a magazine? wicked! p.s. Hope you are doing well, thank you for your work and your teams work.
We bougt a few MTL-B after the cold war. We called them Pansarbandvagn 401 (Pbv 401). We sold them of to private collectors and Finland in around 2011.
A bit surprising to find a Leo 2, uparmor kit and all inside a museum. I always liked the look of that armor kit, shame it's such a pain to find it in plastic.
11:34 that's one of the major problems of power pack design, saved hull length is most effective weight reduction, but it's quite challenging to fit everything in the given space
Great stuff! Correction, the one with the monotrailer is not a 122. Swedish numbering comes from the gundiameter. A Centurion doesnt come with a 120 mm gun. It would be either a 81, 101, 102 or a 104. As the 105 was only ever built as a prototype, it couldnt be that. So a 122 is a Leopard. Why an MTLB? Purchased for mechanised units for schrapnel protection. We did buy some BMP´s aswell. I dont remember where they went. Being a LRRP in the 302 I will probably get laughed at from tanker friends who could tell you exactly what Centurion it is. I watch all your stuff. Keep it coming! Sabot up.
Behind the tank at 13:05 is a box of paper airplanes that you can take one of. You're supposed to do some quiz to find it but I just stumbled upon it and got a free plane.
The MBT and some BMP 1 was baught from former East Germany in mid 90's due to a lack of armored troop transporter. They got them cheap. Side not under my military service I was trained and did drive the Tgb 13 and let me tell you it was slippry on ice and so.
thank you i relly wanted you to do a video on the bkan but im just thankfull were there but what you called the ikv 103 i think it is actually the lvkv 302 or 103
The tractor was probably used to haul excess gear and tow the bike riders by a long rope trailed behind. A cheap efficient vehicle well suited for the job.
I would expect that tall grey truck to be either an ambulance or a Tactical Opperations Center, since you would need to be able to stand errect to do your job in either one.
For years I worked with a former Swede, who did his service on the island of Gotland. And he told me they used bikes to get round, and in order to go faster, they had ropes attached to a vehicle, so that the bikers could hang in it, in a row!! And this may be the reason for the tractor?
Sweden didn't get Sherman tanks because as soon as WW2 ended there was a halt put on all arms purchases for the armed forces which lasted a few years. Which is kind of sensible.
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"with my mobile 'phone camera." Do you see that. Do you see how this man out grammars us all? Do you see this man's attention to detail and knowledge of the past. Do you see the apostrophe on the word "'phone" he does not neglect the fact that it used to be called a "telephone." Amazing.
You are, I believe, the first person in thirty-some years to comment upon this.
... You should put an aphosthrophe there? I actually didn't know that. Thank you for pointing it out good sir!
Well he's a man who looks at old tanks all day. I think he can say 'phone if he likes
You have two clauses in the penultimate sentence. You probably meant:
Do you see the apostrophe on the word "'phone"? He does not neglect the fact that it used to be called a "telephone". Amazing.
Having two clauses in a sentence without any punctuation separating them is usually incorrect syntax. You can also have a compound clause structure with a coordinating conjunction between the independent clauses.
For the Brits wondering, the full stop inside quotation marks is actually correct if you are American. It seems to have originated from typesetting rules about two centuries ago. Full stops outside quotation marks leave a gap between sentences, which allegedly looks bad. It's similar to how people today have problems placing smileys in brackets--"(hi :))" looks wrong, but "(hi :)" is not balanced correctly. British people would probably put the full stop outside, given the original quotation does not have a full stop after "phone".
Oddly, I learned in Ireland (so generally British rules) to put the full stop within the question marks. However, upon further thought and research, I have moved to only putting punctuation which is actually being quoted in between the marks.
The "Battle Bus" at 3:10 is a mobile commandcenter for the Primeminister during WWII. Only one was built.
The "Combat Tractor" towed the soldiers after the tractor. They were riding bicycles and holding on to a rope for dear life.
My grandad did that when he did military service in the mid-40's. Appearently we kept it up until the 80's.
Gave static defense battalions some kind of local mobility.
I thought it was for running over the ones that lagged behind :P
The tractor and wagon haul everyone's shit, parts, packs......you name it. It looks like a Fordson Major. but I bet it's a Hannomag or something.I'm betting it would start right up and go. EMP's don't take out that kinda tech !!!
Its actually a Volvo-BM 350 Boxer. Its Military designation was Hjultraktor 317V (wheeltractor)
The Centurion Mk.10 is called Stridsvagn 101, it was our forst tank with a over 10cm gun. Our Mk.3 was called Stridsvagn 81, becuase it was the first with a gun above 8cm.
If I remember correctly the Greyhound was captured and used in Kongo in the earlie 60s.
The MT-LB (PBV401 in Sweden) and BMP-1 (PBV501) was bought in the earlie 90s.
That is correct. And inbetween those two we have the Stridsvagn 102 aka upgunned Centurion Mk3 and 5.
And when the Strv 101 and Strv 102 was uppdated, they became Strv 101R and Strv 102R (R for "Renovated and modified), but the next time around they became the Strv 104, while the Strv 103, became the Strv 103B and later the Strv 103C, rather than Strv 103R or Strv 105. So we had a very logical system. It's just that we changed the system for every new vehicle and often several times for the same vehicle. As a further example, the first APC's were the Pbv 301, followed by the Pbv 302. (whle the 200-series was used for non armoured tracked vehcles). The next one after that was not the Pbv 303, but the Pbv 401 and Pbv 501. And for the CV90 they changed the system again to the Strf9040. Then they reverted back to the 300-series, but skiped a few numbers for the BV 308 (that is armoured, but not designated as armoured), the BV 309 and the n the BV 410.
Yea this Naming Scheme was adopted after ww2 so all vehicles from the 50s and on uses this.
Strv for example is the 4th vehicle with a 75mm gun.
The Leopard in Swedish service were the Strv 121 (2A4s leased but since returned to Germany) as they were first with 12cm guns and the Current Leo 2s are the Strv 122 (Swedish built variant and the one seen in the video) as they are the second as so on.
the IKV 91 also follows this so its not just tanks
(First vehicle with 90mm gun).
The system might be confusing at first but its a logical naming scheme once you understand it .
thomson125 that would make the Leo2 the Strv 121 right?
The Leopard in the museum is a Strv122. The 121 was the designation for 160 Leopard 2A4 that we leased from Germany.
18:08 Sweden bought East German MTLB's and BMP-1's in the mid 90's to mechanize the large softskin only infantry brigades. Then in 2004 it was in divine wisdom decided to scrap all the infatry brigades and the use for those vehichles dissapeared. I did my military service in 2002-2003 as part of a RBS-56 ATGM platton and we used MTLB's (Swedish designation PBV-401).
Interesting. I had no idea Sweden ever used Eastern Bloc vehicles. I'd have thought they just acquired samples from somewhere for the museum.
@@herrakaarme it was after the Cold War when "Eastern Germany" sold of that shit pretty cheap. And since full mechanization had not been reached yet, it was a quick way to do so.
1016 MTLB:s was bought for around 600k SEK each ($60k) . 550 was renovated and the rest was scrapped for parts. There is roumor that Gemany placed the MTLB:s on a field, the swedish army bought the field, removed the vehicles, then sold the land back to Germany.
@@Nizze82 lol
It appears that the Swedish military liked the 38 T just as much as I do..
16:20 The RBS-70 is not laser _homing_ , it is a beam rider.
The laser sweeps - left to right and then up and down - over the line-of-sight in coded pulses. The missile reads the pulses with a sensor in the back (which is why the rocket engine exhaust is on the mid body of the missile and not the rear) and this tells the missile where it is in relation to the line-of-sight to the target.
Why is chieftains voice so relaxing?
Listening to him talk is like falling asleep on a bed of kittens ^^
That would hurt
I fall asleep to his vids
It is the accent.
The ASMR community on RUclips absolutely love accents, it just works for some reason.
*Interesting little tour, thanks for sharing mate!*
When I did my military service we had the MTLB, called Pbv401 in Swedish service after some changes. They were rather rough around edges but quite solid vehicles. I served in an ATGM (RB56 BILL) unit and we used the 401 as battle taxi..
I am on vacation in sweden and i am going there today! My first visit at a panzermuseum ever! I am excited :-)
Check out the Air Force museum next time
Did you enjoy it?
@@Masada1911 yes i did. standing next to the real tanks und see how big they are is really interesting (the sherman is much taller as i thought, for example). for a fan of tnaks and stuff i can recommend a visit (if possible after the whole pandemic stuff...)
I also wish "The_Chieftain could do an "Inside the Chieftain's hatch" with the Bandkanon 1. 15 rounds in 45 seconds on an artillery cannon!
Thanks for the tour!
According to a recent post on the Swedish Tank Archives, the Sherman deal (for 50 tanks IIRC) failed due to inability to secure a comprehensive spare parts package. I guess the army didn't want to get stuck with an increasing pile of junk, but it sounds like there could be more to uncover.
The "Coffin" was (IIRC) given the nickname because it slightly resembles a coffin for burial when viewed from above. Add poor armor and open topped troop space and you can see where it got it from.
Yeah, it was a stop-gap measure before the arguably better stop gap measure of the pbv 301 until the proper APC sollution of the pbv 302 came around :)
The KP-bil m/42 was in service until the late 90'ies though. Used on Gotland long after it became horribly obsolete.
I don't think the armour was that poor? It survived several frontal hits from a 37 mm cannon during the fighting in Congo.
I wouldn't call it a stop gap? It was developed during the WWII to get cheap spliter and small arms-protected transport to the tanks-forces. In the beginning it wasn't even armed with guns.
pew-pew That it worked ok, doesn't change the fact that it was a stop gap for an APC, just like the pbv. 301. Had it been a halftrack, I might have agreed to it not beeing a stop gap.
I should be added that it was quite well liked by those who used it though =)
I liked this laid back walk through of the Museum.
Where they got the MT-LB from? Former East Germany, the Swedish Army bought about 800 of them at practically scrap price in 1993. Makes sense as the Bundeswehr probably wanted nothing to do with them. About 600 were upgraded to Swedish standards and got used in the usual variety of applications that APCs do. Called Pansarbandvagn (Pbv) 401, or "Armoured tracked carrier" in Swedish service. And yes, they plonked a 40mm Bofors turret on some of them, think that was for the Polish army.
A quick note on the Czech designs you mentioned.
3:35 Strv m/37, CKD AH-IV-based, made in Sweden under license after a rather hostile takeover happened in Czechoslovakia (you may have heard of this, it was widely publicized at the time). They went straight to the scrap heap in 1953.
5:16 we see a Sav m/43 (Stormartillerivagn/Assault Gun Carrier) a.k.a "the clog". The Army stopped production of the m/41, and used the last 18 of the chassis to make these.
6:16 Strv m/41 was a license-built TNH (a.k.a Pz 38t). Same backstory as the m/37. All of these (except for the ones in museums) were rebuilt into Pbv 301.
which brings us to:
9:56 Pbv 301. ALL Pbv 301 came from existing m/41 tanks. So this particular 301 used to be a m/41.
Same thing happened with Strv m/42, they were all reborn as Strv 74 (with lethal results for the crewmen).
those greyhounds were recovered in kongo in the Un mission there and used by the swedish troops
I recently went to Sweden and planned to visit arsenalen. Unfortunately, unforseen circumstances prevented me to do so. Therefore I'm very happy with this video, it could not have come on a better time for me :D Thank you very much!
Is it me or does his height make these things look like 3/4 scale from his camera's viewpoint?
Not his height, just the simple force of his larger-than-life-ess.
Thank you for going through that, as i play more then World of tanks i also Mess around with Wargame: Red Dragon an RTS and most of the time i use the Scandinavian Coalition it's cool to see all of these vehicles in a museum from halfway around the world.
Invisible tank !!! That creased me up 😂😂
Alone in a tank museum? The sounds like heaven, I can't say I wouldn't be exploring inside all the tanks I could.
Cracking museum by the look of it, great job.
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The Rbs 70 is a very interesting surface-to-air missile. The only SAM that´s a laser beam rider if I remember correctly. The missile itself isn't in any way aware of the target until it gets within range of the proximity detonator as the laser receiver is in the rear end of the missile looking back towards the launcher and the laser emitter.
Kenneth André Hansen thing is they are still developing it and the modern variants have autotracking optical sight and laser painter (within limits of course). Thus it kinda becomes locking system.
Advantage is the missile is dirt cheap. Comparatively. And also kinda jamming proof as laser rider.
When there is no seeker head on the missile a) you can't fool the missile and the operator is guiding the launcher optics b) it only needs dirt simple laser sensors in the back. Thus cheaper and also more room for bang since that laser sensor probably weights way less than a full optical or radar seeker.
Which means for the trifty Swedes, more missiles for the lads and faster. Also not rhowing expensive seeker head away with every missile. Just reuse multiple times on launcher.
Down side? The operators and launcher/guider becomes a target.
We had MTLBs or 401s in the Swedish army in the 90s.
I lost my marbles when you turned around to present the battle bus...lol
Firefly based solely on its looks and ViBE is my all time favorite tank of all tanks ever .
Im pretty sure that MT-LB was bought dirt cheap from East Germany along with a bunch of BMP-1s when the swedish infantry went through its mechanization phase.
That's right. Back in those days, Finland bought a lot of stuff from there too, including MTLBs. Why not - it was cheaper than the price for scrap metal, but still useful.
Don't forget the Brobandvagn 971 witch was based on T-55. 30+ was bought.
17:57 Ah, sweet sweet memories of the army times, sleeping at the back of an MTLBV during maneuver training...
...And the not so sweet memories of continuously training boarding it and disembarking.
Love your videos Chieftan!!!
Nice you had your phone with a good camera for a inside tour. Nice for history buffs or tank fans. Best of luck.
I've being there this summer. Was just driving by and SUDDENLY!!11one a tank standing by the road!
Then I saw the barn. And "hey! I know this place! I have to pull over and go in!"
The T-55 AM2 was the last Tank built in the GDR an after the Cold War Ends the NVA (East German Army) no longer exists Sweden bought a couple of the T55AM2 s for testing and thats the story
Nice walk through. Many interesting vehicles...
That MT-LB at the end. I've always loved the looks of that thing for some reason, even though it's just a fairly unremarkable APC.
Unremarkable perhaps, but the Swedish military liked them surprisingly well. Very good flotation and cross-country mobility and quite good ride quality for a Soviet vehicle.
The BMP-1s wasn't liked at all as much...
Me too!
On the contrary!!! Trabi IS NOT AWEFUL!!! It is a child of east german ingenuity in adoption to soviet supression! It is a light 4 seater and easy to maintain. My first car was the station wagon version of it. Due to bad workshop maintenance I lost a sealing cap of the gear box in Denmark. Fixed it with a jam glass lid and an some sealing compound and drove back to Weimar (~450mi) safely. Beat that with your Reliant Robin SIR!!!
I think they are the armed forces vehicle museum, not a tank museum. There was a tank museum before in Axvall, but it was closed to move their vehicles to Arsenalen.
I came for the Arse. I saw tanks. I was satisfied.
I quite enjoyed that. He should expand it into a full show. Nice to see the Stolly.
Pretty sure that "bandkanon" is actually an Akv 151 and thats the only one made if i'm not wrong, it used one of the kranvagn hulls but due to being cheaper and probably a bit more reliable the bandkanon which used the 103 hull was chosen over it
You've got the best job ever man.
Thanks for this tour mate, very interesting!
Since +TheChieftainWot stumbled a little over what to call the Mk10 tank - Cold War and later Swedish tanks are designated by their main gun caliber in centimeters, followed by a number indicating which model of tank with a given caliber it is. So Strv 101 is the first tank with a 10 cm gun (the classification for which includes the 105 mm gun), Strv 122 is the second tank with a 12 cm gun (that's the modern Leopard 2S by the way), Ikv 91 is the first infantry support track (AKA "light tank", except it's more of an assault gun) with a 9 cm gun, etc. The number is not exclusive to a given vehicle, so you can have an Strv 121 and an Ikv 121 at the same time.
This only applies to cold war and later things though, and only to tanks and other direct fire vehicles. Older vehicles use a "model of [year of adoption]" system like "Stridsvagn m/42" for a tank adopted in 1942, a system which is supposedly obsolete but was resurrected in the early 1990s (for a while every new piece of kit in the Swedish army was named m/90 - the Psg 90 sniper rifle, the Ag 90 anti-materiel rifle, the m/90 uniform, the Strf 90 infantry fighting vehicle... all to show that the Army was renewing itself for the 90s).
Sweden has alot of MTLB's. Bought in bulk for 1 SEK per Kilogram (MG included). Did my service as a mechanized platoon leader, had three of these. Two were regular infantry carriers and the third were modified to carry the Rb56 and 6 crew i believe.
That was a very interesting tour, thanks for sharing
you saying the Swedish are famous for the 40mm bofors remind me of the fact that some of the most popular anti-aircraft weapons were Swedish or swiss (like the 20mm oerlikon) kinda funny the biggest war in human history is happening around them and they're just sitting rubbing they're hand together at all the money from licensing contracts
Well Sweden did not make as much as we would have.
As the biggest producer of the 40mm bofors gun of ww2 was the US and they made them without a license.
(They got the papers from the British who had a license and Illegally started to mass produce them).
The US had already been in talks with Sweden about getting a license but In return Sweden wanted a License for Aircraft
(Sweden had already ordered a number of aircraft the year before and wanted a License to build more of them in Sweden under license in exchange for the License for the Bofors 40mm)
During the time of the conversations the US put an embargo on military equipment to Sweden (All European nations not a part of the allies) thus preventing the shipment of the Majority of the aircraft Sweden had already ordered
(Sweden only got 62 out of the 254 aircraft they had ordered and paid for)
and at that point the talks about the Bofors 40mm ended as Sweden was understandably annoyed at that point.
The US still wanted and needed the gun so the Brits Copied and Smuggled a set of plans to the US and the production was started.
After the production had started some type of deal was reached with Bofors but at this point the US was pretty much able to state their terms as they would just make them anyway so the price / compensation was allot lower then it should have been and Sweden never got the rest of the aircraft they had ordered.
"rubbing they're hand together at all the money"
no wonder the nazies called Swiss "Berg-Semiten" (Mountain Jews)
unipetrolak swiss which are from switzeland arent swedes which are from sweden. Where TC is.
It wasn't really them sitting rubbing their hands together making money, it was them sitting there in a partially terrified state of "Oh boy which of the three major powers will invade us?" (Allies, Soviets, Germans)
We Swedes have had Peace 200 years. Gues why Sweden Went brok broke and backwards to a modern nation with resources...
I've been there, and it is really worth a visit. :-)
The Stalwart was a one off purchase to supply garrisons on small islands in the Baltic, hence the crane.
14:57 These things are so cool. I drove them in the army and driving on snow is so smooth because of the light weight of the vehicle and the width of the tracks
I Went Here Since My Mom Is Swedish And We Wanted To Visit And I Found Out About It Just In time!
If you want to do an inside the Hatch on the Bandkanon travel to Boden the "Föreningen P5" has one that's operational what's in the Arsenalen is the prototype based on the hull of a Swedish heavy tank that was never put into production !
The Bandkanon production version is based on the S tank hull !
Thank you for this tour!
would love to see more detail on all these tanks which should keep you busy, we wouldn't want you to run out of tanks for inside the hatch. I'm particularly looking forward to watching you climbing about in the S-Tank
@ 15:21 you can see the feet of the first Swedish Transformer called Optimus Carl Gustavus
When you're talking about swedish tanks having skoda suspension around the 3:30 mark you are actually filming a Strv m/37 which is a skoda tankette !
So no wonder it has skoda suspension
It is not a Skoda tankette.It is designed and manufactured by CKD and sold to Sweden. The LT vz 35 also known as Pz 35(t) is a Skoda vehicle.The famous LT vz 38 was also a CKD-design.
I saw the same type of cutaway T-54 tank in CFB Borden back in 2015! Holy smokes that’s a coincidence!
As I remember it, the RBS 70 was a beam rider. The exhaust from the rocket come out at the sides.
the real question isnt why the model t ford is in the tank museum but what kind of gun did it use when it was in combat
Ford did make a 3 ton tank for world war 1.
Potato gun? *heading slowly for the nearest exit*
Obviously one in black!
Just showing what kind of cars people where driving when the first tanks arived in Sweden. They are from the same tine period.
the mtlb as well as bmp1 was bought in bulk from basically a russian scrapyard in the -90s as a stop gap vehicle until all forces was equipped with the cv90. i served in one of those right there.
Many interesting tanks you don't see in other museums
14:48
The suspension on that thing looks like that of a King Tiger.
One of my this with the Swedish peacekeeping in Kosovo, early 2000, was in a 302. This while we had cv90 (which i later served in).
I have very little love for the 302 myself and there is very little positive I heard of it that wasn't based on "it's what we got assigned to us.
There is ofc the fact that vehicles such as these in low threat peacekeeping roles, in comparison to a non heavy weapon equiped civilian population that don't want to kill the peacekeepers (compare Kosovo vs Iraq circumference), is way more than capable to be the apex military authority (since there is nothing else) .
That in turn, maybe/ ofc (?), goes out the window in countries things go bad (~2006 Iraq).
The 302 was, to me as far as peacekeeping vehicles goes, a great such vehicle until you actually needed it.
I never doubted the CV90 though. Peacekeeping in that one was a pleasurable experiment.
But if anything, serving in a 302 -meanwhile- you could have had a cv90 by mkt that 10 years margin, was absolutely astonishingly silly to me. It's like getting a biplane in the year 1943 and told to guard the border it smh
They probably got the MTLB from their own military. Friend of mine is Swedish and drove them in the Army. Apparently the Swede's bought a bunch cheap in the 90's post Cold War.
Thanks for this illuminative video peak, into Swedish armour, ..well, 'a musea', may this include other future Hatches opened, links prodded, clevises inspected & interiors explored - Thank you.
This suspension (LT vz. 38 or Panzer 38t) was actually designed and manufactured by ČKD, not Škoda. Škoda designed the LT vz. 35 (Panzer 35t) and offered an improved version against this design. The ČKD design won in trials. Swedes got a complete documentation with blueprints for a licence production.
They were still using Ferrets in Malaysia 🇲🇾 in 1999 drove one around the parade ground a few times in KL 😂
I love the 74, it's a compact little fist of doom!
Great video!
Model T Ford in a tank museum, hah I have a neighbor with one of those (It was the husband's grandmother's) sitting in a two car garage for at least 15 years (that's because I'm only 15 and I have not asked them about it) and boy the kids and especially the wife are probably still mad and puzzled as to why no work on it has been done on it for a long time, especially when there are 3 cars and less than enough room for a Coleman mini bike.
Wonderful!! it felt like I was actually there! I'm waiting (not to patiently) for your Inside the hatch of the Strv. m/42-57 for my world of tanks experience and also the Bandkanon for my general enlightenment. An SPG with a magazine? wicked! p.s. Hope you are doing well, thank you for your work and your teams work.
We bougt a few MTL-B after the cold war. We called them Pansarbandvagn 401 (Pbv 401). We sold them of to private collectors and Finland in around 2011.
Maybe it’s called a “coffin” because once the hatches are closed the driver cannot see out .
A bit surprising to find a Leo 2, uparmor kit and all inside a museum. I always liked the look of that armor kit, shame it's such a pain to find it in plastic.
Awesome Museum
11:34 that's one of the major problems of power pack design, saved hull length is most effective weight reduction, but it's quite challenging to fit everything in the given space
Great stuff! Correction, the one with the monotrailer is not a 122. Swedish numbering comes from the gundiameter. A Centurion doesnt come with a 120 mm gun. It would be either a 81, 101, 102 or a 104. As the 105 was only ever built as a prototype, it couldnt be that. So a 122 is a Leopard. Why an MTLB? Purchased for mechanised units for schrapnel protection. We did buy some BMP´s aswell. I dont remember where they went. Being a LRRP in the 302 I will probably get laughed at from tanker friends who could tell you exactly what Centurion it is. I watch all your stuff. Keep it coming! Sabot up.
Behind the tank at 13:05 is a box of paper airplanes that you can take one of. You're supposed to do some quiz to find it but I just stumbled upon it and got a free plane.
The SPG you referred to is not a Bandkanon 1, technically. It's a Artillerikanonvagn 151, the prototype vehicle of the Bkan.
The MBT and some BMP 1 was baught from former East Germany in mid 90's due to a lack of armored troop transporter. They got them cheap. Side not under my military service I was trained and did drive the Tgb 13 and let me tell you it was slippry on ice and so.
Nice video
you haven't even watched it
I am waiting for an in depth review of the venerable battle bus!
thank you i relly wanted you to do a video on the bkan but im just thankfull were there but what you called the ikv 103 i think it is actually the lvkv 302 or 103
Can you do one on the Australian Armour Museum In Queensland ?
You could visit their workshops they are currently doing rebuilds of a Goliath, Stug III and a Jadpanther
The tractor was probably used to haul excess gear and tow the bike riders by a long rope trailed behind. A cheap efficient vehicle well suited for the job.
LOL I thought this was someone else's video (It was on my list and I clicked on it without looking) and sec 20 cracked me up. haha
The canturion is a stridsvagn 84 i think, and swedens mbt the leopard is the stridsvagn 122
I would expect that tall grey truck to be either an ambulance or a Tactical Opperations Center, since you would need to be able to stand errect to do your job in either one.
He defiantly needs to go hang out with mr. hewes
Sweet video!
For years I worked with a former Swede, who did his service on the island of Gotland. And he told me they used bikes to get round, and in order to go faster, they had ropes attached to a vehicle, so that the bikers could hang in it, in a row!! And this may be the reason for the tractor?
Sure. We sweds will always find a way to make the military fun
I find it funny how nicholas never said that the universal carrier in the museum is the only one in sweden
Sweden didn't get Sherman tanks because as soon as WW2 ended there was a halt put on all arms purchases for the armed forces which lasted a few years.
Which is kind of sensible.
the swdish centorians are neamed strv 81, 101/R 102/R, 104 ; 105 and 106 the strv 121 and 122 are Leopard 1 or 2 variants
very nice video!
Welcome to Sweden and Arsenalen. Are you planning on making a two part video of the S-tank (strv 103)?
Looks like a nice place.
Also, now that WoT (console) actually has the Chieftain in game can we expect a full Inside episode on it?
Awesome! Been there, done it! Glad wargaming finally give us Swedish tanks. Are there going to be any "inside the hatch" videos? Ha de gött!
On the Marder II : höchstgeschwindigkeit or "Top Speed" 30Km
The Swedes surely loved their 38(t)s.