The plastic filter looks more fuzzy. It might be good enough for a early P22 gen2+ tube with much noise. But I doubt, I would bother. Thanks for this inspiration, I'll see if it helps with a much too bright 3 stage gen0 scope, that I have.
ive been enjoying my filter, thx for the review, i also feel like it helps u regain ur natural night vision quicker when u flip up ur nvg. also i dont have a massive black spot in my eye when wearing these for long periods.
Would be kinda nice to have one of those front and back to protect the lenses. Maybe that dude should also make the same aluminium housing with some kinda tempered or toughened glass for that reason.
I use clear protective lenses from NightVision Inc on both ends of my pvs14. They're made to protect from airsoft BB strikes, so they should work for most handling.
you can run a refocus/iris with the filters because the filters go on the eyepiece where the refocus caps and iris' are screwed into the objective lens.
Questions. (I'm still figuring this all out🤣) Why go to a tube that cant be adjusted? And I would love to see same tests on white phosphor. Thanks. 🇺🇸😎👍
Just got my first pvs 14 from agm which is autogated gen 3 level 1. So these filters are good when it’s a full moon to show the best contrast? Gonna have to get one!
Thanks for making this video. Was looking for more info on it. On the installation. You have to remove the eye cup ring in order to use these is what it sounds like?. Will the eye cup be able to fit on the Amber lens? I'm hoping to not have to use the eye cup since I wear glasses most of the time. Compared to the Wilcox on back splash how would you rate it? My main interest is reducing back splash if I have to take the eye cup off due to glasses or mask use. The gain in contrast is a big plus.
You have to remove the ring and screw the filter into the same threads the ring used. The eye cup won't work with it. It reduces the back splash some but not as much as the Wilcox since it is a lot darker. I've always ditched the eye cups and never use them because it takes away your peripheral vision and can fog up the eyepiece.
Would you recommend any of these products on a Gen 2+ device? I have a PVS-14 with a GEN 2+ tube but wasn't sure if any amber filter would make a Gen 2 device too dark to use as most PVS-14's are using Gen 3 tubes.
I don’t know to be honest. I haven’t communicated with him since around the time of this video. I’ll see if I can find any additional contact info and reach out
Joe Tittiger The LIF isn’t designed to alter the color or limit the eye splash like the amber filters specifically do. It also screws into the front objective lens whereas the amber filters and others like it (purple filters for white phosphor) screw into the rear eyepiece. The LIF does reduce the amount of light coming into the tube so it reduces performance and darkens the image some. The LIF blocks certain high power green targeting lasers.
@@NITEWALKER-NIGHTVISION The Green filtering is actually a side effect, from what ive been told the real purpose is to protect them from extremely high powered IR laser designators used on things like helicopters for laser guided munitions. These operate at a different wavelength than traditional aiming lasers like PEQ-15s around ~1064nm, as they use Nd.Yag laser systems rather than compact diodes. The much higher wavelength than traditional aiming lasers is why the LiF will not protect NV from something like a PEQ whatsoever, the way I understand it the green filtering is due to a physics concept that I cant recall the name of.
Scott Schneider I use an Inforce WML IR (1 cell, single CR123) and Surefire X300V for longer range. The Princeton Tec Switch IR is really good for short range. A cheaper option that works pretty good is a Fandyfire 850nm or 940nm. It has an adjustable head so you can adjust for a wide flood or a tighter spot beam. $19 on Amazon www.amazon.com/dp/B07J58P2WR/ref=cm_sw_r_oth_api_i_25x5EbZRB72H7
What about using it with the white phosphor tubes? Also what type of specs should i look for when buying one of the L3 white phosphor tubes with the zone 3 blemish that you had on a previous video?
Willie Fistergash The amber doesn’t work well with the WP. I have anvis eyepieces in the sentinel I put the L3’s in so I can’t screw them in. I held it up and didn’t like it. There are purple filters and the pics look like they work really good with WP. Haven’t tried them yet though. Specs-wise, if they have them, I’d go for a 72 res and mid to high 30’s signal to noise ratio. A 64 res with mid to high 30’s would be great also. I’d pick a 64 with snr close to 40 over a 72 with snr close 30. Either one, get the lowest ebi and halo numbers you can. Ebi under 1.0 minimum, preferably closer to .5 but most of them seem to be around .7-.8 which is fine. You want the same for halo, below 1.0 minimum but as low as possible. There’s some other specs like cathode response but these are the major ones.
NITEWALKER i will have to check into the purple filters, do you know where the purple’s are sold? Thank you very much for spec’s, i will copy this down and ask matt @ N-Vision, i had called him Thursday and they were out of the blem tubes so he put me on a wait list. Seems like the best tubes are out of stock on the major NV web sites, must be a lot of people buying these NV units.
Willie Fistergash Sure Shot Night Vision has the purple. You can google or search them on Instagram. They have a lot of content on IG. With N-Vision that’s usually the case but they seem to get them fairly often. Personally, I prefer being able to choose what they have when they get them versus laying in advance and not knowing what you’ll get. Just be ready to choose between different tubes and ready buy so when they contact you they don’t skip you for someone else.
In not going to lie, I was always afraid to have my nvg on during a lightning storm. I'm no scientist so I feared the rapid bright lights might give it a heart attack and shut off or something
I don't understand your question. Night vision works during the day but there is no need to use it in daylight. The visible light spectrum is 400nm - 700nm. Gen 3 intensifier tubes use 400nm-to-940nm but are more sensitive in the near infrared spectrum 700nm-900nm range. Gen 2 the same but can have more sensitivity above 900nm than gen 3.
To clarify - you can use it during the day but you need a lens cap with pin hole cover to only allow a tiny amount of light in. Too much light and you will destroy the tube.
Yellow isn't a good fit. Sure Shot Night Vision sells a purple filter that's designed for WP (SNB filter). I haven't tried them yet but others say they work well.
JohnBoy It’ll lower the brightness enough but not too much so you can probably leave your gain higher. If that’s an issue for you at all (lowering your gain when it’s too bright). It does increase contrast. It’s really hard to say if you’ll like it or not until you try it. I think it’s worth trying out. Not the Wilcox, I would recommend the lighter screw in glass filters like this one
NITEWALKER thanks man. I actually bought the amber one... stuck it on my WP nods and realized I just have dim green phosphor now. Oh well. I guess now I have to get a green unit
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Great video, just what I was looking for. First person impresion! Good job.
omer turkic Thanks and glad it helped you put 🤙
The plastic filter looks more fuzzy.
It might be good enough for a early P22 gen2+ tube with much noise. But I doubt, I would bother.
Thanks for this inspiration, I'll see if it helps with a much too bright 3 stage gen0 scope, that I have.
ive been enjoying my filter, thx for the review, i also feel like it helps u regain ur natural night vision quicker when u flip up ur nvg. also i dont have a massive black spot in my eye when wearing these for long periods.
Would be kinda nice to have one of those front and back to protect the lenses. Maybe that dude should also make the same aluminium housing with some kinda tempered or toughened glass for that reason.
I use clear protective lenses from NightVision Inc on both ends of my pvs14. They're made to protect from airsoft BB strikes, so they should work for most handling.
@@EWLR89 Thanks for the tip. Are they clear?
Most PVS-14 come with a sacrificial lens for the front and a demist lens for the back.
Another great video
Thanks!
I feel like a refocus/eyeris is still just a better option like the matbock or diy options. Plus it gives better DoF while restricting light
you can run a refocus/iris with the filters because the filters go on the eyepiece where the refocus caps and iris' are screwed into the objective lens.
A lot of top tier USA rifle scope brands run top grade Japanese glass. 👍🏻
I love mx10160 tubes.
That was cool, for myself, it's the amber or no filter at all.
I agree. I wouldn't use it in real dark conditions but other than that it does help with contrast and lowers the brightness to your eyes.
Questions. (I'm still figuring this all out🤣)
Why go to a tube that cant be adjusted?
And I would love to see same tests on white phosphor.
Thanks. 🇺🇸😎👍
Reality Check I had to in order to use the Sentinel housing. It doesn’t have a gain control provision.
Just got my first pvs 14 from agm which is autogated gen 3 level 1. So these filters are good when it’s a full moon to show the best contrast? Gonna have to get one!
Yes, they work very good under a bright Moon. On no Moon nights you will probably want to remove it.
Thanks for making this video. Was looking for more info on it. On the installation. You have to remove the eye cup ring in order to use these is what it sounds like?. Will the eye cup be able to fit on the Amber lens? I'm hoping to not have to use the eye cup since I wear glasses most of the time. Compared to the Wilcox on back splash how would you rate it? My main interest is reducing back splash if I have to take the eye cup off due to glasses or mask use. The gain in contrast is a big plus.
You have to remove the ring and screw the filter into the same threads the ring used. The eye cup won't work with it. It reduces the back splash some but not as much as the Wilcox since it is a lot darker. I've always ditched the eye cups and never use them because it takes away your peripheral vision and can fog up the eyepiece.
Thanks for the info. Needed clarification before I jumped.
Will this filter help me with bridging a green PVS 14 gen 3 with Flir Breach on sepia mode, to make the colors mach?
Not really. I tried it and they mesh better but me personally I find outdoor alert mode works better when using them at the same time
Would you recommend any of these products on a Gen 2+ device? I have a PVS-14 with a GEN 2+ tube but wasn't sure if any amber filter would make a Gen 2 device too dark to use as most PVS-14's are using Gen 3 tubes.
I think it would make it too dark especially on little or no moon nights. On bright moon nights it might be okay but it will still darken it.
Still a good idea to have these filters if the manual gain isnt disabled?
It’s really up to the individual. Some love filters and others hate em. You pretty much have to try them yourself to know
yeah think i stick to manual gain control and no filter
the wilcox filter would be better for city lights ect, back alley ops and what not
Is this guy still in business? I sent him an email ages ago, but never got a response.
I don’t know to be honest. I haven’t communicated with him since around the time of this video. I’ll see if I can find any additional contact info and reach out
How about the "laser filter" that goes on the objective end?
Joe Tittiger The LIF isn’t designed to alter the color or limit the eye splash like the amber filters specifically do. It also screws into the front objective lens whereas the amber filters and others like it (purple filters for white phosphor) screw into the rear eyepiece.
The LIF does reduce the amount of light coming into the tube so it reduces performance and darkens the image some. The LIF blocks certain high power green targeting lasers.
@@NITEWALKER-NIGHTVISION The Green filtering is actually a side effect, from what ive been told the real purpose is to protect them from extremely high powered IR laser designators used on things like helicopters for laser guided munitions. These operate at a different wavelength than traditional aiming lasers like PEQ-15s around ~1064nm, as they use Nd.Yag laser systems rather than compact diodes. The much higher wavelength than traditional aiming lasers is why the LiF will not protect NV from something like a PEQ whatsoever, the way I understand it the green filtering is due to a physics concept that I cant recall the name of.
Hey guys one quick question, what do you guys use as a or illuminator that is too dark out? Non weapons mount.
Scott Schneider I use an Inforce WML IR (1 cell, single CR123) and Surefire X300V for longer range. The Princeton Tec Switch IR is really good for short range. A cheaper option that works pretty good is a Fandyfire 850nm or 940nm. It has an adjustable head so you can adjust for a wide flood or a tighter spot beam. $19 on Amazon www.amazon.com/dp/B07J58P2WR/ref=cm_sw_r_oth_api_i_25x5EbZRB72H7
Scott Schneider You can helmet mount it. You’ll just need to pick the right mount depending on your helmet rails or how you want to mount it
how is his response time? I need to grab a pair of these.
Jeff Klecka Pretty fast. I’d hit him up
What about using it with the white phosphor tubes?
Also what type of specs should i look for when buying one of the L3 white phosphor tubes with the zone 3 blemish that you had on a previous video?
Willie Fistergash The amber doesn’t work well with the WP. I have anvis eyepieces in the sentinel I put the L3’s in so I can’t screw them in. I held it up and didn’t like it. There are purple filters and the pics look like they work really good with WP. Haven’t tried them yet though.
Specs-wise, if they have them, I’d go for a 72 res and mid to high 30’s signal to noise ratio. A 64 res with mid to high 30’s would be great also. I’d pick a 64 with snr close to 40 over a 72 with snr close 30. Either one, get the lowest ebi and halo numbers you can. Ebi under 1.0 minimum, preferably closer to .5 but most of them seem to be around .7-.8 which is fine. You want the same for halo, below 1.0 minimum but as low as possible. There’s some other specs like cathode response but these are the major ones.
NITEWALKER i will have to check into the purple filters, do you know where the purple’s are sold?
Thank you very much for spec’s, i will copy this down and ask matt @
N-Vision, i had called him Thursday and they were out of the blem tubes so he put me on a wait list. Seems like the best tubes are out of stock on the major NV web sites, must be a lot of people buying these NV units.
Willie Fistergash Sure Shot Night Vision has the purple. You can google or search them on Instagram. They have a lot of content on IG.
With N-Vision that’s usually the case but they seem to get them fairly often. Personally, I prefer being able to choose what they have when they get them versus laying in advance and not knowing what you’ll get. Just be ready to choose between different tubes and ready buy so when they contact you they don’t skip you for someone else.
NITEWALKER found a L3 unfilmed WP RES: 72
Signal Noise: mid 30’s
Willie Fistergash What’s the ebi?
In not going to lie, I was always afraid to have my nvg on during a lightning storm. I'm no scientist so I feared the rapid bright lights might give it a heart attack and shut off or something
Lightning is fine. If it’s too bright the autogating will kick in similar to muzzle flashes.
@@NITEWALKER-NIGHTVISION good point thanks
@@NITEWALKER-NIGHTVISION hey, what if my pvs14 isn’t auto gated?
@@helpdeskjnp it’ll be fine. Autogating is primarily designed to keep the best resolution in high light conditions
We don’t have those in Canada, and I’m not happy with that lol
Lol
good day! I would like to purchase an amber filter . with delivery to the Russian Federation . is it possible?
Сергей Гордиенко l believe they are controlled by ITAR and if they are then no it wouldn’t be possible. It’s best to check with the seller to confirm
Proverte avito, inogda est’ importeru
Hy do u know how mutch NM i need to see with night vision on day? like full spectrum!!
I don't understand your question. Night vision works during the day but there is no need to use it in daylight.
The visible light spectrum is 400nm - 700nm. Gen 3 intensifier tubes use 400nm-to-940nm but are more sensitive in the near infrared spectrum 700nm-900nm range. Gen 2 the same but can have more sensitivity above 900nm than gen 3.
To clarify - you can use it during the day but you need a lens cap with pin hole cover to only allow a tiny amount of light in. Too much light and you will destroy the tube.
@@NITEWALKER-NIGHTVISION thank you 👍
Just emailed for some of these, not sure if this person is still selling these? No response for a few days.
I haven’t communicated with him for a while. Not sure
Did you ever get in contact with the seller? I'm interested also
@@FlakySnake I was not able to get in touch
the wilcox bottom filter was really not good. the first filter was jsut as good and in some cases better than no filter
Wonder how it looks on white phosphor
Yellow isn't a good fit. Sure Shot Night Vision sells a purple filter that's designed for WP (SNB filter). I haven't tried them yet but others say they work well.
@@NITEWALKER-NIGHTVISION Thanks for the tip, gonna look them up!
What do they cost
Unfortunately I don’t think he’s making them anymore
Does anyone know if there are still available? tried to e-mail but no response.
Yup. still available
@@stephpan08 by email?
Are these filters worth it on a gen 3 tube with manual gain? I live in an urban (relatively bright) area and I'm thinking this might help.
JohnBoy It’ll lower the brightness enough but not too much so you can probably leave your gain higher. If that’s an issue for you at all (lowering your gain when it’s too bright). It does increase contrast. It’s really hard to say if you’ll like it or not until you try it. I think it’s worth trying out. Not the Wilcox, I would recommend the lighter screw in glass filters like this one
@@NITEWALKER-NIGHTVISION thanks dude. I reached out to him.
JohnBoy You’re welcome 👍
@@NITEWALKER-NIGHTVISION I don't think this guy answers his email lol. I might try my work email just in case my personal email went to spam.
JohnBoy Well that sucks. I’ll try also
I take it this amber isn’t great on a WP setup?
MrAdvantage1 I didn’t like them with WP. Sure Shot NV makes purple filters designed for WP. I haven’t tried those yet but they look the best
NITEWALKER thanks man. I actually bought the amber one... stuck it on my WP nods and realized I just have dim green phosphor now. Oh well. I guess now I have to get a green unit
NITEWALKER do you know anybody who makes screw-in front and rear sacrificial/protective lenses?
MrAdvantage1 Night Vision Inc has those IIRC
I had the Wilcox ones on both of my 14’s and they absolutely sucked. Only took 30 seconds for me to realize I made a bad purchase.
Wheelchair Operator They cut too much performance
Is the guy selling these from Missouri?
I’m not sure where he’s out of
@@NITEWALKER-NIGHTVISION, okay thanks for replying. I ordered one from eBay and it definitely seems like a quality piece..
@@nameless2580 I don't suppose you remember the listing name
@@crowsbridge retroliberty is the seller from Missouri. The listing is PVS 14 15 amber filter cover assembly.
@@nameless2580 thanks
That willcock filter sucks