Hard graft apart, I bet everyone had a jolly good time. It's very unlikely that the greater number will get back to good old fashioned tried-and-true techniques, but for those who took the trouble it must be terribly rewarding. By the way, this method favours stability and trueness. By very gradually liberating the strong tensions in the log, there's much less warping and splitting. Modern machines are very harsh on the timber, and cut far too fast. I'm glad to see some people getting themselves out and chopping into the stuff. Thanks for posting.
@Honken i think its because many cabins survived for a long time because they are located in the nothern area. bugs dont like the cold weather; therefore, they die and woods last longer
Are there any information of how and when did the trees were cut down? For the wooden constructs were far more resistent than the ones now a days . I´ve seen roof queen post 60ft long and more dating 900 year ... take care all
Hi, great question. As far as we can tell, the term carpenter has been in use since the 12th century, originating from French and originally Latin. Whilst it was originally linked to cart-making, in the 13th century it was defined more broadly as an "artificer in timber, one who does the heavier sort of wood-working." It seems that rather than having different names for those involved at different stages or levels, they would instead preface carpenter with words such as "apprentice" or "master" not too dissimilar from today.
You can build with it green, then it is easier to chop, cut, and bore. Dowels and tenons are ideally dried with hot sand, time, or maybe a torch to prevent to joint from loosening.
How is this wood treated afterwards? I've seen a lot of long term shelters been done with untreated wood buried in the earth and so on but I've always been told that this wood deteriorate rapidly if left untreated.
+hallets1956 I can and it doesn't sound too bad. Trees are tall, as such, they run the risk of killing people within their immediate vicinity should they fall. Therefore, it's more than likely that tree fellers worked reasonable distances from one another.
The sad thing is that the vast majority of people have no idea of how this skill could help them through their life in very practical things like getting a house, saving money not to mention the sense of achievement ans selfsuffinciency embedded. We live in times where we need this so much, and yet, we are being happily, and firmly pushed away from this, especially in UK and USA. People wake up, there is a something awaiting us, and you see the clues in every aspect of our lives. By the way, TTIP is going to be approved by EU. There is nowhere to escape anymore.
Yes. The log should be closer to the ground. All this work was done with great consideration of gravity and efficiency in handling. Putting the log up on benches might be alright for demonstration viewing by a crowd, but it would be a waste of time, energy, and resources in a production environment. The fellow in grey at about 3:43 has it right. The gal toeard the back is struggling with swinging the axe over the log.
White Shirt Dude is a touch chunky, so he must not do this regularly. It looks like good cardio. If he keeps it up, maybe he'll be more poplar with the ladies.
Well we still use knives and the basic design hasn't changed all that much. A least, a lot of us still do. I'm sure a few people use a zipper zapper gadget from an infomercial to cut things
+SerJahPhoto the timber will move as it shrinks but it will still work. Most traditional wood crafts would have worked the timber to size while it was still green, except for work that needed to be water tight like coopering or shipwright's work.
That's why traditional builders were very particular about which trees were cut for use. Straight trees, squared of around, with the pith running down the middle dry remarkably straight. Also, because most of the rings are cut through at the edges, it reduces checking. Splitting a twisty log and planking it causes all sorts of problems when it dries. This is what happens with modern timber. Cut it fast roughly, kiln dry it, plane the kinda straight ones to regular size and shape. Mangled ones go elsewhere: lath, pallets, OSB, etc.
Technically not true. If used as beams the wood can be incredibly green and not warp as it dries due to the fact that the heart of the tree is still there in the center. The reason boards tend to warp is because they are cut from the sides of the log. It may develop a few small cracks as it dries but its still perfectly fine.
Very hard boring work and all free labor at the time. Most people lived under the feudal system which meant for the privilege of more back breaking farm work you got to spend a few weeks working for the lord. You did of course owe the lord an amount of farm produce regardless if the remainder was enough to feed your family. The "noble" knights were the enforcers. Those were the good old days- NOT
Even the most strapped peasant under the manorial system worked less and owed less than modern Americans, who work to pay off debt to banks their entire lives. Remember, the religious calendar gave people around 160-180 holidays per year.
@@michaelhall7562 Half a decade late to the show, but indeed you are right. Yes, the work was back-breaking, and you didn't actually have a say in your destiny at all, but overall (wars, famines and plagues excluded) life must have been pretty stable. More peaceful, actually, than the modern rat race.
That chubby chap at 3.34 was c hopping in a very dangerous manner. Firstly he was wearing SHORTS and secondly he was very likely to finish up with the facing axe buried in his leg/s. This is very bad practice and should not be shown to the general public. Ashamed of yourself ?
Brilliant !
Amazingly clear depiction of early plank making, alongside historical evidence
Quite amazing how much information is packed into a bare five minutes! Excellent video.
The presenter for the carpenters was articulate. I like that.
Hard graft apart, I bet everyone had a jolly good time. It's very unlikely that the greater number will get back to good old fashioned tried-and-true techniques, but for those who took the trouble it must be terribly rewarding. By the way, this method favours stability and trueness. By very gradually liberating the strong tensions in the log, there's much less warping and splitting. Modern machines are very harsh on the timber, and cut far too fast. I'm glad to see some people getting themselves out and chopping into the stuff. Thanks for posting.
Interesting, I never thought about that, except that splitting would release some natural tensions
Exactly what I was looking for! Thanks for posting - very interesting!
@bluetoad2001 Sure is hard work. Glad you enjoyed WoodlandsTV
@Honken i think its because many cabins survived for a long time because they are located in the nothern area. bugs dont like the cold weather; therefore, they die and woods last longer
@s37d They are from the East Sussex Partnership, completely different county. Sherwood Forest is Nottinghamshire, about 200 (ish) miles further north
@loverg31 Interesting comment. Thanks for watching WoodlandsTv and sharing that.
Are there any information of how and when did the trees were cut down? For the wooden constructs were far more resistent than the ones now a days . I´ve seen roof queen post 60ft long and more dating 900 year ... take care all
What was the job title for the workers who prepared timber? Would they still be called carpenters?
Hi, great question. As far as we can tell, the term carpenter has been in use since the 12th century, originating from French and originally Latin. Whilst it was originally linked to cart-making, in the 13th century it was defined more broadly as an "artificer in timber, one who does the heavier sort of wood-working." It seems that rather than having different names for those involved at different stages or levels, they would instead preface carpenter with words such as "apprentice" or "master" not too dissimilar from today.
I was reading some ancient Greek fiction and they talked about gathering planks and was very curious how they would go about that
Μάλλον πήγαν στο τοπικό σιδηροπωλείο δίπλα στον Παρθανώνα!
Fantastic 👍👍💪💪
Thanks for the video. I'm assuming the log was green when you started. And if so, do you have to let it "sit" before you use it?
You can build with it green, then it is easier to chop, cut, and bore. Dowels and tenons are ideally dried with hot sand, time, or maybe a torch to prevent to joint from loosening.
@mrwill711 It's there. Maybe a problem with your set up?
Most of the roof beams in my parent's house were reused hewn timber!
Great video! Thank you!
very interesting!
How is this wood treated afterwards? I've seen a lot of long term shelters been done with untreated wood buried in the earth and so on but I've always been told that this wood deteriorate rapidly if left untreated.
Give the post bottom a good 'ol char.
Where are these people located? Do they have a website or something? Google is not being friendly to me on this.
So Much patience
An interesting video, thanks
You never know what you're going to find on UTube!
Good grief, can you imagine the noise of a heap of blokes hacking away at tree trunks?
+hallets1956 I can and it doesn't sound too bad. Trees are tall, as such, they run the risk of killing people within their immediate vicinity should they fall. Therefore, it's more than likely that tree fellers worked reasonable distances from one another.
I think there was a lady in this film too
Bliss
Looking at this make me not look at cut down logs as "logs"; I now see them as planks! Thanks..
That takes a long time
The dude in the white shirt looks like he's going to open up his leg with that axe!!!!!!
this was also how mass squared beams were made from logs in Canadian logging in the 17 and 1800s.
The sad thing is that the vast majority of people have no idea of how this skill could help them through their life in very practical things like getting a house, saving money not to mention the sense of achievement ans selfsuffinciency embedded. We live in times where we need this so much, and yet, we are being happily, and firmly pushed away from this, especially in UK and USA. People wake up, there is a something awaiting us, and you see the clues in every aspect of our lives. By the way, TTIP is going to be approved by EU. There is nowhere to escape anymore.
What is TTIP?
Does anybody know what a person doing this job would have been called? Not a sawyer, the hewing..?
A hewyer? ;)
nice hewing axe.
lots of work but worth it. all good
buzz
Educational😯😉😀😀
Yikes. That axe action is dangerous. He'll lose his nads like that.
Yes.
The log should be closer to the ground. All this work was done with great consideration of gravity and efficiency in handling. Putting the log up on benches might be alright for demonstration viewing by a crowd, but it would be a waste of time, energy, and resources in a production environment. The fellow in grey at about 3:43 has it right. The gal toeard the back is struggling with swinging the axe over the log.
Yeah I thought that. Maybe it explains the medieval population drop - it wasn't the Black Death after all.
Or maybe he is just a eunuch whose sole job is to chop bits of wood off logs
i didnt know the onion knight was a carpenter
If we had just stuck with this...
@Almightyrastus oh, england is cool
Men were men in those days.Playing with your mouse is never going to make a tuff guy out of anyone !!!
B&Q
Oh wow i was wondering how medival people had planks
I think they may be building a Trojan Rabbit!
is that sherwood forest, wheres robinhood
Post apocalypse daily
White Shirt Dude is a touch chunky, so he must not do this regularly. It looks like good cardio. If he keeps it up, maybe he'll be more poplar with the ladies.
Yew’d think so, yeah.
Funny how we cant let go of the past.
why should we? we may need the past one day
Well we still use knives and the basic design hasn't changed all that much. A least, a lot of us still do. I'm sure a few people use a zipper zapper gadget from an infomercial to cut things
Them drawings might have been done a few years ago that’s no proof
True, I bet they didn't use the Arial font in mediaeval times. It's a hoax!
Why is Peter Jackson in this?
They are wasting the trees. Whatever you do to a freshly cut tree, it will be something different when it dries.
+SerJahPhoto the timber will move as it shrinks but it will still work. Most traditional wood crafts would have worked the timber to size while it was still green, except for work that needed to be water tight like coopering or shipwright's work.
That's why traditional builders were very particular about which trees were cut for use. Straight trees, squared of around, with the pith running down the middle dry remarkably straight. Also, because most of the rings are cut through at the edges, it reduces checking.
Splitting a twisty log and planking it causes all sorts of problems when it dries. This is what happens with modern timber. Cut it fast roughly, kiln dry it, plane the kinda straight ones to regular size and shape. Mangled ones go elsewhere: lath, pallets, OSB, etc.
Technically not true. If used as beams the wood can be incredibly green and not warp as it dries due to the fact that the heart of the tree is still there in the center. The reason boards tend to warp is because they are cut from the sides of the log. It may develop a few small cracks as it dries but its still perfectly fine.
Very hard boring work and all free labor at the time. Most people lived under the feudal system which meant for the privilege of more back breaking farm work you got to spend a few weeks working for the lord. You did of course owe the lord an amount of farm produce regardless if the remainder was enough to feed your family. The "noble" knights were the enforcers. Those were the good old days- NOT
So? Man, this is a video about chopping a fucking log and making it square for fuck sake.
Note the name--Early Medieval timber work
Even the most strapped peasant under the manorial system worked less and owed less than modern Americans, who work to pay off debt to banks their entire lives. Remember, the religious calendar gave people around 160-180 holidays per year.
@@michaelhall7562 Half a decade late to the show, but indeed you are right. Yes, the work was back-breaking, and you didn't actually have a say in your destiny at all, but overall (wars, famines and plagues excluded) life must have been pretty stable. More peaceful, actually, than the modern rat race.
That chubby chap at 3.34 was c hopping in a very dangerous manner. Firstly he was wearing SHORTS and secondly he was very likely to finish up with the facing axe buried in his leg/s. This is very bad practice and should not be shown to the general public. Ashamed of yourself ?
You should setup a charity to teach this in Africa
The homeless should build their own housing. How much talent does it take to swing an axe?
I'm pretty sure there are a few trees around in the city they could use
Do you want drugged up schizos to swing axes?