These tunes were a dystopian mindfuck at the time ha. Couldnt get enough back then. I still have this LP on wax and a lot of stuff that came our around thid time, they still sound fresh as ever.
When this first came out, I bought it and immediately returned it to the store. But something made me buy it again, and it became one of my favorite DNB albums ever. Dope shit.
Nico was the person behind No U-Turn. Ed rush was a DJ at that time and wouldn't have known how to turn a sampler on let alone engineer a studio. Nico invented half the d&b production techniques still in use today.
Timo Crompinen I wasn't aware of that at all. What contribution did Ed Rush have to those tracks then...and why is his name on them? I agree that Nico was absolutely instrumental for Techstep and Neurofunk, but just wanted to present a counterargument.
Was playing this when it came out and still now, every now and then when nothing but darkness and anger will do.....Dom and Rolands - chained on two sides - for the chaser
I envy all the people who lived this era . at that time I was 7 and, as you can suppose, my only concerns were to be a good student to deserve the time to play with my snes
had the cd and I wore it out in 20 years or so, and lost it, now I wish I still had it but cant find on eBay or anything, does anyone where I can get it except discogs I seem to be banned from that
Rote liebe essen Germany the lads toured Europe and me and my mate brought the Charlie to 3 gigs(essen cologne Hamburg)in exchange for VIP tickets,a good deal,97/98 the best in my opinion time ever raving and yes I was there in the beginning 89 stopped going in 2012 coz of my age and too many eees turned me into a facetious old twat😆🇬🇧🇩🇪big up trace,ed,nico you are responsible for the best nights ever anyone remember popkomm cologne,ms connection Mannheim Speyer 101 you know don't yer??? Thanks it was mad🙃🙃💊💊💊💊💊💊💊💊💊☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️👉⚡️👈
I am sorry but 98-99 were 100 % not the best years at all..fact..I was there from early hardcore and love hearing 97-98 from now, but the events were rubbish post 98..
There's more depth in Techstep than Neurofunk, vibe-wise. Neurofunk can sound pretty damn dull real quick due to the drum pattern limitations and sounds able to make that particular drum pattern sound good. Anyone want to contest?
I'll contest (the payload). Neurofunk does not necessarily limit drum pattern options. Neurofunk evolved from Techstep. It's completely different from Techstep right now. Using less drum samples like the Amen, but instead artists use more unique sounds. In the beginning, when Neurofunk split off of Techstep, it was all about adding just a little bit of Funk, while at the same time giving off a more nervous feel by playing around with sound more. That is where the Neuro comes in. When Neurofunk evolved, the Funk was dropped and exactly the same thing happened that also happened to Dubstep; it rose in popularity significantly. Producers are trying to make the sound more friendly to bigger audiences. With Dubstep, that meant pretty much replacing the Dub and the low bass with modern electro sounds and focus on the mid-range. It made the whole thing less dynamic, because every sound is in the same frequency range and has the same loudness. Listen to modern Neurofunk, and you'll see what I mean. The music scene is taking away what made Neurofunk, well, Neurofunk and we'll eventually be at the same place Dubstep is now; the genre is a nuclear wasteland and almost everyone moves on to the next big thing. Dubstep did have the same fate as you described about Neurofunk. At one point it all sounds so similar, that you're just wondering if it's not just one producer with a thousand aliases making the music. While Neurofunk evolved, Techstep was still in the background, staying underground and not much changed except the production quality got significantly better as a lot of producers learned how to use the new technology to create what defines Techstep. So, basically, Neurofunk is now the Brostep of Drum and bass (perhaps together with Jump-up?). I know music evolves, but what happened to both Dubstep and what is going to happen Neurofunk are just sad stories. If I try to bring up Dubstep in a conversation, people will immediately think about house with crazy obnoxious sounds that only robots listen to on daytime radio. In a few years time, Neurofunk will be shat on and we'll look back and ask where it all went wrong.
Twan you're the man! If I could see it being straightened-out is having sites like Discogs & RateYourMusic be more strict on how people decide to add a genre/style to a particular release. Because very surprisingly Juno Download was bold enough to add the appropriate Dubstep Genre variations such as "Deep Dubstep" and I believe even Brostep if i'm not mistaken. I was part of that one FatKidOnFire conversation (naw, in-fact I was the one who started it) that discussed the issue of Dubstep variations. This talk made it a lowkey BIG deal and then suddenly 3 days later Skream announced his retirement in that field. Also you mentioned the *"Typical"* dubstep sounds that play on daytime radio....where i'm from nobody knows Dubstep like that unless it's like Skrillex and nothing else and besides that this sound is never aired over here I feel like i'm in my own world at times. I personally got hook'd from the introduction of DMZ / Skream. Skream claims to have over 5,000 drum patterns and I could be wrong by a couple thousand more, but you can't deny that as you can hear it. But sonically DMZ are the top dawgs, because of that all frequency loudness it lacks soul in a genre that doesn't build upon soul, very very interesting. Then you have artists who make bomb ass shet such as Cluekid & Heny G and they don't have 1-interview. It's still underground IMHO just the appending Dubstep-name was heavily compromised in such a green vomit type of way. #MaximumRespect facebook.com/FatKidOnFire/posts/350704121677531 ,
Well, if everyone was to split up every genre into subgenres and styles, it would cause confusion and possible conflicts. We can all agree on this being Drum and bass. If you would write down Techstep, it would confuse people who have never heard about Techstep, but you'd also have some saying "this isn't Techstep, this is genre X pls change rite nao!" Technology isn't advanced enough yet to recognize the music genres, so not an option either. The only option I can think of is crowd sourcing (allowing people to vote for genre names, and letting trusted users verify them). However, it is a system very susceptible to trolling or abuse. As for companies doing it right, Spotify has an internal system for naming genres in their API. everynoise.com/engenremap.html The linked site has a map of genres, which is generated by an algorithm designed to map genres by how natural or atmospheric it sounds. If you however look at the map, it is kind of silly as some genres are plain missing (breakbeat hardcore) and some which I doubt exist (catstep, zapstep, deep deep house).
Sir SPeakz A Lot I don't contest but it makes a huge difference based on what producers you're talking about within their respected genres. all dnb has neuro in it but not all neuro has a pure tech step vibe in it. I've always felt that dnb/tech step by default is neurofunk based on syncopation and minute details to the drum pattern structures. Neurofunk is in some ways like the mnml techno of drum n bass.
Never stopped listening, turning 50 now. Respect!!
Same here Mike, and I'll be listening to this when I'm 70 touch wood haha ;)
Happy 25th Birthday to one of the most important albums in drum and bass history.
One of the absolute best! Was 15 when i bought it and now 43...the sound of the future indeed
loved this at 16-17 never thought i'd still be obsessed at 42!!!
Still sounds like the future... More than ever in fact...
These tunes were a dystopian mindfuck at the time ha. Couldnt get enough back then. I still have this LP on wax and a lot of stuff that came our around thid time, they still sound fresh as ever.
When this first came out, I bought it and immediately returned it to the store. But something made me buy it again, and it became one of my favorite DNB albums ever. Dope shit.
These kinds of drums felt so good against my body coming out of the speakers back then. They hit with such PUNCH.
Very lucky to have a signed copy by the one like Nico! Long live No U Turn
Huh?@@Zombai-wi4ce
I bought this back in the 90's and played it every day. Into the ground.
till today...
@@ZombieflesheaterZFE yeah its actually in the ground now
The old good d'n'b - dark drums + deep bass synths + blade runner samples - killer stuff!
Dom & Roland on 31 rec. reminded . mechanics
once the best no u turn album mix ...present by ed rush . good old times.
still you mean.
Ed rush & Nico - Torque = Baddest tune ever written.
Shit, the rollcage album was great as well as thunder from dom&roland when they were still on the jungle curve
Had the pleasure of watching ed rush at generation x m/c .. Without this guy would we have techstep ?? N-u-t greatest label of all time
Nico was the person behind No U-Turn. Ed rush was a DJ at that time and wouldn't have known how to turn a sampler on let alone engineer a studio. Nico invented half the d&b production techniques still in use today.
Timo Crompinen What about Ed Rush's previous tracks then? Bludclot Artattack and Subway and Killamanjaro(just to name a few) came before torque..
D B hes really shit now though,listen to his new fabric cd,what a piece of shit.the man who made tracks like density,raven,wtf is he at now.
Hynkel All those tracks were produced by Nico as well so I don't see your point.
Timo Crompinen I wasn't aware of that at all. What contribution did Ed Rush have to those tracks then...and why is his name on them? I agree that Nico was absolutely instrumental for Techstep and Neurofunk, but just wanted to present a counterargument.
This was one of the quantum superpositions of my head in 1997.
Was playing this when it came out and still now, every now and then when nothing but darkness and anger will do.....Dom and Rolands - chained on two sides - for the chaser
based, had a hard time finding this back in the 90s, when I did I immediately taped it for my car's tape deck & rinsed it continuously
NAUGHTY ALBUM CLASSIC.SEEN ALL THESE BOYS ENUFF TIMES😃!!
man this was my sh*t back in the day! Ed Rush - my hero. People still can't get this through their headz. d'n'b 4 eva!
Still the best album in my collection. 23 years!
good taste sir!
25 years, wow. I bought this on Hemel high street, from HMV (I think). I never stopped playing it. It is so fucking mechanical and hard.
So raw! Just tearing it out. They didnt care.
What an era
Nice tunes. Good old 90s.
I have got this on Cd and I still listen 🎶 to it up to this DAY. 👊👊👊👊
oh man... this is still one of my favorite albums. so deep, so good. memories I have with this one... wow 20 years old
Bad album Big up Ed Rush Nico for this one Richard. 👊👊👊👊👊👊👊👊👊
Would be great to know who used to do the No U Turn graphics at that time - I love the mixture of cyberpunk and Egyptology
Credited on discogs.
@@skipintroux4444 Cheers
I envy all the people who lived this era . at that time I was 7 and, as you can suppose, my only concerns were to be a good student to deserve the time to play with my snes
Use to blast this album in my 95' Corsa 😂
There is still a formula to mixing, especially jungle, fuck d&b, it can make or break a set, so glad to hear this, thank you
😎👉🏽🔥👈🏽 más de 20 años después y suena ¡¡macizo!!
my favorite d'n'b mix ever!
I hear a sound used in the first Blade Runner. First track..
Torque! what a release!
Subliminal album..deep dark and nasty😁jst as it shud b!!
THANK YOU. i have this on cd, and this is on my phone, but it's got some scratches that don't play well. got to get another copy. this is so crushing
This is so badass.
yes! this is exactly what I was looking for - an early ed rush set :)
Timeless
its 2020 and this shit is the still the bomb!
Wonderful, thanks!
had the cd and I wore it out in 20 years or so, and lost it, now I wish I still had it but cant find on eBay or anything, does anyone where I can get it except discogs I seem to be banned from that
Techstep is so good
Tremendous
This album changed the game.
Huge
Awsome, takes me back!
Any info on who did the artwork
sound is clean
talk about polyrhythms when the mix comes in. insane shit. classic album!
Rote liebe essen Germany the lads toured Europe and me and my mate brought the Charlie to 3 gigs(essen cologne Hamburg)in exchange for VIP tickets,a good deal,97/98 the best in my opinion time ever raving and yes I was there in the beginning 89 stopped going in 2012 coz of my age and too many eees turned me into a facetious old twat😆🇬🇧🇩🇪big up trace,ed,nico you are responsible for the best nights ever anyone remember popkomm cologne,ms connection Mannheim Speyer 101 you know don't yer???
Thanks it was mad🙃🙃💊💊💊💊💊💊💊💊💊☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️👉⚡️👈
I was at that Essen gig. Those were the good old days!! 😛😎
I am sorry but 98-99 were 100 % not the best years at all..fact..I was there from early hardcore and love hearing 97-98 from now, but the events were rubbish post 98..
1:09:50 monumental
34:50 kills
There's more depth in Techstep than Neurofunk, vibe-wise. Neurofunk can sound pretty damn dull real quick due to the drum pattern limitations and sounds able to make that particular drum pattern sound good.
Anyone want to contest?
I'll contest (the payload).
Neurofunk does not necessarily limit drum pattern options. Neurofunk evolved from Techstep. It's completely different from Techstep right now. Using less drum samples like the Amen, but instead artists use more unique sounds.
In the beginning, when Neurofunk split off of Techstep, it was all about adding just a little bit of Funk, while at the same time giving off a more nervous feel by playing around with sound more. That is where the Neuro comes in.
When Neurofunk evolved, the Funk was dropped and exactly the same thing happened that also happened to Dubstep; it rose in popularity significantly. Producers are trying to make the sound more friendly to bigger audiences. With Dubstep, that meant pretty much replacing the Dub and the low bass with modern electro sounds and focus on the mid-range. It made the whole thing less dynamic, because every sound is in the same frequency range and has the same loudness. Listen to modern Neurofunk, and you'll see what I mean. The music scene is taking away what made Neurofunk, well, Neurofunk and we'll eventually be at the same place Dubstep is now; the genre is a nuclear wasteland and almost everyone moves on to the next big thing. Dubstep did have the same fate as you described about Neurofunk. At one point it all sounds so similar, that you're just wondering if it's not just one producer with a thousand aliases making the music.
While Neurofunk evolved, Techstep was still in the background, staying underground and not much changed except the production quality got significantly better as a lot of producers learned how to use the new technology to create what defines Techstep.
So, basically, Neurofunk is now the Brostep of Drum and bass (perhaps together with Jump-up?). I know music evolves, but what happened to both Dubstep and what is going to happen Neurofunk are just sad stories. If I try to bring up Dubstep in a conversation, people will immediately think about house with crazy obnoxious sounds that only robots listen to on daytime radio. In a few years time, Neurofunk will be shat on and we'll look back and ask where it all went wrong.
Twan you're the man! If I could see it being straightened-out is having sites like Discogs & RateYourMusic be more strict on how people decide to add a genre/style to a particular release. Because very surprisingly Juno Download was bold enough to add the appropriate Dubstep Genre variations such as "Deep Dubstep" and I believe even Brostep if i'm not mistaken. I was part of that one FatKidOnFire conversation (naw, in-fact I was the one who started it) that discussed the issue of Dubstep variations. This talk made it a lowkey BIG deal and then suddenly 3 days later Skream announced his retirement in that field.
Also you mentioned the *"Typical"* dubstep sounds that play on daytime radio....where i'm from nobody knows Dubstep like that unless it's like Skrillex and nothing else and besides that this sound is never aired over here I feel like i'm in my own world at times. I personally got hook'd from the introduction of DMZ / Skream.
Skream claims to have over 5,000 drum patterns and I could be wrong by a couple thousand more, but you can't deny that as you can hear it. But sonically DMZ are the top dawgs, because of that all frequency loudness it lacks soul in a genre that doesn't build upon soul, very very interesting. Then you have artists who make bomb ass shet such as Cluekid & Heny G and they don't have 1-interview. It's still underground IMHO just the appending Dubstep-name was heavily compromised in such a green vomit type of way.
#MaximumRespect
facebook.com/FatKidOnFire/posts/350704121677531
,
Well, if everyone was to split up every genre into subgenres and styles, it would cause confusion and possible conflicts. We can all agree on this being Drum and bass. If you would write down Techstep, it would confuse people who have never heard about Techstep, but you'd also have some saying "this isn't Techstep, this is genre X pls change rite nao!" Technology isn't advanced enough yet to recognize the music genres, so not an option either. The only option I can think of is crowd sourcing (allowing people to vote for genre names, and letting trusted users verify them). However, it is a system very susceptible to trolling or abuse.
As for companies doing it right, Spotify has an internal system for naming genres in their API.
everynoise.com/engenremap.html
The linked site has a map of genres, which is generated by an algorithm designed to map genres by how natural or atmospheric it sounds. If you however look at the map, it is kind of silly as some genres are plain missing (breakbeat hardcore) and some which I doubt exist (catstep, zapstep, deep deep house).
Sir SPeakz A Lot I don't contest but it makes a huge difference based on what producers you're talking about within their respected genres. all dnb has neuro in it but not all neuro has a pure tech step vibe in it. I've always felt that dnb/tech step by default is neurofunk based on syncopation and minute details to the drum pattern structures. Neurofunk is in some ways like the mnml techno of drum n bass.
who fucking cares....yeeez...live a little ;-)
I have never bought a mixed-cd cause I would like to have the whole track. Not mixed.
it is a double-cd. one unmixed, one mixed.
late reply but there's an uploaded unmixed version on yt :)
i personally find the mixed version better cuz i prefer the different tracklist.
is the original mix this sped up?
Yes. here you can check a little part of it when it was recorded ;) ruclips.net/video/m2zABLBaRr0/видео.html
this was the U-Turn when jungle got DARK