Mark E Smith - The British Masters - Christmas Special - Part Two

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  • Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
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    John Doran of the Quietus meets Mark E Smith of pre-eminent rock group The Fall, in a special Christmas episode of our British Masters series where John interviews the most influential and colourful figures from British popular music history. In part two of the episode, John chats to Mark about his time in a wheelchair, the new EP and The Fall's current steady line up.
    In John's own words: "There are only a few things that separate us from the rest of the animal kingdom... the most important of these attributes, is an appreciation of the music of The Fall. This means if you do not listen to such albums as 'Hex Enduction Hour', 'This Nation's Saving Grace' and 'The Unutterable' you are worse than savage. The solution to what ails us is clear -- be less beastly, listen to The Fall"
    Previous British Masters have included Gary Numan, Johnny Marr, and Dizzee Rascal.
    See Part One here: • Mark E Smith - The Bri...
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Комментарии • 199

  • @simonjenkin
    @simonjenkin 6 лет назад +84

    I did indeed used to see him out and about in Prestwich. Usually coming out of Bargain Booze or sat inside The Forresters. Not that I'd ever approach the bastard as he once pushed me into a wall for having the temerity to exit the gents as he was stumbling in for a piss. He really was a true one off. RIP.

    • @IFeelSoTongueTied
      @IFeelSoTongueTied 4 года назад +6

      Hands down the best comment I’ve ever read bless u

    • @davidrobinson2776
      @davidrobinson2776 3 года назад +3

      Being abused by Mark was his version of an autograph or a selfie. He once scowled at me the stuck out his tongue. I left before he ruined the illusion.

  • @Robhalifax
    @Robhalifax 9 лет назад +172

    Doran played that to perfection. Its a balancing act between humouring him and not acting like a sycophant.

    • @joshbeeson8447
      @joshbeeson8447 6 лет назад +17

      Enjoyed it mate he’s a good interviewer they are almost extinct and he asked some good questions RIP mark

    • @neilsun2521
      @neilsun2521 5 лет назад +12

      Exactly. Frank Skinner's sycophancy made me wince all the way through his interview. Seemed kinda phoney too.

    • @whatamalike
      @whatamalike 4 года назад +6

      @@neilsun2521 "OY LUV YEW MAARK!" in a wank brummie accent.
      Yeah, skinner's bumlicking evidently bored Mark towards the end.

    • @christopherbrookfield4785
      @christopherbrookfield4785 3 года назад +3

      Exactly. Like, a mutual respect kind of thing. I was never a big Fall fan, but I have always liked Mark E Smith. ✌️

    • @stephenwalker850
      @stephenwalker850 2 года назад

      Well said , enjoy your night

  • @wiggywaggo9647
    @wiggywaggo9647 5 лет назад +42

    There's nothing I like to watch more when I'm pissed than mark smith interviews

    • @finnkdy
      @finnkdy 5 лет назад +3

      As he /you misses the spot,
      So wot.

    • @styxcreek
      @styxcreek 4 года назад +2

      That laugh is infectious

    • @russelltodd7718
      @russelltodd7718 3 года назад

      Yes sir...

  • @nickcassettes
    @nickcassettes 5 лет назад +30

    That Paul McCartney's looking rough.

  • @soleknight3212
    @soleknight3212 5 лет назад +24

    Very high quality interview all the way through. He has a way of compelling you (even when rambling). Could listen to MES talk for hours. Possibly the funniest human I ever heard. RIP you lovable bastard.

  • @bluehuw
    @bluehuw 10 лет назад +74

    Is there a harder gig in journalism than interviewing Mark E Smith? Taliban press officer?

    • @chescarino
      @chescarino 9 лет назад +4

      Huw Evans shane macgowan

    • @sinisterbuthappy208
      @sinisterbuthappy208 7 лет назад +3

      Charles Manson ?

    • @disabledoperator
      @disabledoperator 6 лет назад +6

      you seen Lou Reeds interviews?

    • @mattslivovitz2947
      @mattslivovitz2947 6 лет назад +5

      Plenty. He always seemed pretty affable to me - yeah, you couldn't get him to follow a premeditated script; he didn't suffer fools and he was liable to take the piss. It's not like he was a prima donna, though.

    • @iamdamosuzuki_
      @iamdamosuzuki_ 6 лет назад +6

      Robert Fripp from King Crimson I’ve heard was quite an intimidating person to interview. I heard a story about one time he took an interviewer’s question cards and started reading them back to him.

  • @sikthsikth
    @sikthsikth 8 лет назад +62

    'The Panzer of Wheelchairs'

  • @marclawson6144
    @marclawson6144 4 года назад +42

    What a good mood he's in. He must have had just the right number of drinks.

  • @PrincipledUncertainty
    @PrincipledUncertainty 10 лет назад +34

    I love the Fall. Mark is one mad bastard though.

  • @permaveg
    @permaveg 7 лет назад +21

    "Do you ever get crazy fans knocking on your door" ? " ...not for long".

  • @danielcactus3953
    @danielcactus3953 10 лет назад +25

    Mark has got to a point where his look is again (more or less) matching with his real age.
    For anybody thinking that Mark has had a terrile aging, they must consider that for man who hasn´t work out in his life and who by this day still drinks three pints on a interview on absolute daylight, mark has hold on quite well.
    Mark could have been much more of a genius with maybe, lets say, only a third part of the abuse he´s taken. Respect the man anyway

    • @danielcactus3953
      @danielcactus3953 10 лет назад +1

      ***** I´m a deffinetly a fall fan, but come on, there is a lot of things I would have changed if somehow I had control over this music.
      I would say that almost half of the songs on their entire carrer are actually not just wacky, but not good, sometimes.
      Anyway, try to play that other 50% I´m talking about to a common public. They would go crazy about it and tell you to take some serious therapy.
      What bands do you consider as good as the fall ? Just kurious.

    • @Anonymous-c4p
      @Anonymous-c4p 4 года назад +2

      @@danielcactus3953 Pere Ubu 🤔

    • @chaunceyloveshack9530
      @chaunceyloveshack9530 2 года назад +1

      @@danielcactus3953 i think the first decade was all incredible, but the genius started to show less and less as the years went by and the abuse took its toll. so i understand your sentiment.

    • @bernicia-sc2iw
      @bernicia-sc2iw 2 года назад +1

      @@chaunceyloveshack9530 More precisely I would say 79-85 was the pinnacle of the group . After that there were many peaks and troughs .

  • @1982alicealice
    @1982alicealice 9 лет назад +36

    these two have really funny chemistry

    • @sebas5483
      @sebas5483 5 месяцев назад

      Si si, es interesante la química de un borracho que odia las entrevistas y un adulador que se hace el interesante, nunca voy a entender el morbo de emitir estas entrevistas patéticas

  • @odw_99
    @odw_99 6 лет назад +21

    RIP Mark E Smith. What a legend

  • @xX88B88Xx
    @xX88B88Xx 10 лет назад +13

    Love how it starts off with an immediate smackdown "It's not This Morning program d'you know what I mean" HA!

  • @PrimeM92
    @PrimeM92 10 лет назад +12

    gotta give it to him, he is funny as fuck! lol

  • @vollsticks
    @vollsticks 8 лет назад +20

    An old (now, sadly deceased) friend of mine lived in Salford when Nico was living there--he used to see her at his smack dealers, they both scored off the same bloke.

    • @jalijali8448
      @jalijali8448 5 лет назад +2

      She lived in Prestwich mid 80's

    • @Jlipnicki
      @Jlipnicki 3 года назад +1

      Smack, granted but where did she go for a snack ? Was there a chippy ?

    • @vollsticks
      @vollsticks 3 года назад +1

      @@Jlipnicki Yeah, some excellent ones, apparently

  • @iamdamosuzuki_
    @iamdamosuzuki_ 6 лет назад +44

    I’m so depressed that I didn’t get into The Fall until Mark E. Smith had already died. Little did I know that “Hex Enduction Hour” would wind up being my favorite album of all time just a few months later.

    • @michellenachtigall7469
      @michellenachtigall7469 4 года назад +9

      You and me both, man.

    • @dannycheesums
      @dannycheesums 4 года назад +5

      This genuinely warms my soul guys :)
      I got into the Fall in 2001 and very quickly they were my favourite band. Went to see them live in 2005 and it was all old heads but by 2014 it was a whole range of ages at a fall gig.

    • @Smudgie
      @Smudgie 2 года назад +6

      feel the same about Mozart.

    • @DragonFlagBand
      @DragonFlagBand 10 месяцев назад +1

      It's never too late. The music will last forever. Pure genius!

    • @hackett999
      @hackett999 10 месяцев назад +1

      Same! Makes me sad i didn’t listen to my dad 10 years ago when he told me to give it a go. Great album.

  • @lewismurphy3692
    @lewismurphy3692 3 года назад +19

    Forever grateful I discovered the fall, found them when I was 19, I’m 21 now and will have their brilliance for the rest of my life. What a pleasure.

  • @GranulatedStuff
    @GranulatedStuff 6 лет назад +12

    "...the Panzer of wheelchairs" XD

  • @earinsound
    @earinsound 3 года назад +11

    i love how his pint is magically replenished

    • @ndarcy92
      @ndarcy92 Год назад +2

      like his liver.

  • @arsmithx
    @arsmithx 7 лет назад +6

    Have you ever tried playing a Fall 12" record at 45rpm? Beezer! Smithy sounds like Les Dawson doing a fishwife impression.

  • @mikerophone235
    @mikerophone235 4 месяца назад +3

    Mark E Smith laughing at his own jokes is the best laugh. RIP

    • @first2letters
      @first2letters Месяц назад

      Cheekily breaking the fourth wall after his jab at the Arctic Monkeys is just the best thing ever 😂

  • @hunnymccann9349
    @hunnymccann9349 2 года назад +5

    Had the pleasure of seeing The Fall at the Lead-mill, Sheffield. Mark was aware and a legend , we need people back in music like this.

  • @styxcreek
    @styxcreek 10 лет назад +16

    Didn't understand half of what he said but still loved it. There's no one else quite like him.

  • @BoboDoboRobo
    @BoboDoboRobo 4 года назад +8

    It’s not This Morning program is it

  • @thirdratecontent585
    @thirdratecontent585 3 года назад +9

    The interviews I rewatch most are Mark E Smiths and Lemmys 👍👍

    • @thomasmccabe3111
      @thomasmccabe3111 7 месяцев назад

      That's exactly what I been watching all day 😂

    • @David-h4z2s
      @David-h4z2s 5 месяцев назад

      And John Lydon

  • @filled_soda
    @filled_soda 10 лет назад +11

    "Can I have this?" Classic.

  • @StereoAnthony
    @StereoAnthony 7 лет назад +8

    Johns big sigh right at the end, like he just made it through a war

  • @sambar0986
    @sambar0986 10 лет назад +6

    The best part of this is Mark just having one of the records the interviewer gives him to sign at the end cos he doesn't have one himself.

  • @MrDLOC11
    @MrDLOC11 4 года назад +5

    He ain't like everybody else so don't expect the same.

  • @PontiacS.
    @PontiacS. 8 месяцев назад +3

    This was Great. Mark E. was in such a Good Mood. Havin' Fun.

  • @dannyriley3882
    @dannyriley3882 10 лет назад +6

    when are you interviewing Julian Cope fer chrissakes

  • @Plastico48
    @Plastico48 3 года назад +3

    Mark E Smith and Stone Cold Steve Austin the only 2 people I know who have ever had a designated beer giver.

  • @gringopig
    @gringopig 6 лет назад +3

    Oh man, he's funny. Sad to see now but he wouldn't give a shit. He lived his own life.

  • @thechapelperilous
    @thechapelperilous 10 лет назад +13

    Matt Johnson please.

  • @gringopig
    @gringopig 6 лет назад +18

    1:00 that look speaks volumes

  • @ericrhodes5174
    @ericrhodes5174 6 лет назад +15

    Rest in peace, pub philosopher

  • @DragonFlagBand
    @DragonFlagBand 10 месяцев назад +3

    Possibly one of the best interviews I've ever seen anywhere ever!!!

  • @PrincipledUncertainty
    @PrincipledUncertainty 3 года назад +4

    Mark, amazed that his album exists, asks where it's available. Priceless.

  • @zetetick395
    @zetetick395 7 лет назад +4

    5:24 loooool XDDD
    How on earth did Mark E Smith become one of the most lovable frontmen ever?? O_o

  • @zorchproductions
    @zorchproductions 10 лет назад +6

    Awesome... he's such a nice guy sometimes!

  • @sinisterbuthappy208
    @sinisterbuthappy208 7 лет назад +13

    Stephen Hawking ...........a Mark E Smith side project ?

  • @FadGadget1
    @FadGadget1 4 года назад +4

    The panzer of wheelchairs! 😂😂😂

  • @oolongoolong789
    @oolongoolong789 8 лет назад +4

    Not really an interview. Just Mark being Mark.

  • @Stratboy999
    @Stratboy999 Год назад +1

    Q: 'Do you ever get crazy fans knocking on your door?' MES: 'Not for long....'

  • @PAULLONDEN
    @PAULLONDEN 5 лет назад +2

    Legend..but he came over as someone who couldn't handle his drink....
    Might've had to do with his health problems .........

  • @manyspaceships
    @manyspaceships 10 лет назад +9

    Doran did great job.

  • @jefferyweigand1337
    @jefferyweigand1337 7 лет назад +2

    "The Panzer of wheelchairs..." Fucking Smith, one of the funniest fellows ever...

  • @nath909
    @nath909 10 лет назад +6

    "The men in black, yeah?"

  • @garethdavis5491
    @garethdavis5491 3 месяца назад +1

    After watching this two-parter for the 500th time I should probably chuck my ten-bob in.
    Mark E. Smith was the only real, proper genius western civilisation has ever produced. When I say "genius," I mean a mind that is separate from any external influence yet at same time able to absorb it and interpret said influences in such as way that it the end result is so much better.
    The man could read a shopping receipt and in 30 seconds read out a bizarre, beautiful, madly sci-fi interpreteation of it and keep people guessing about it for years after.
    Nothing will ever compare to The Fall in my lifetime or anyone elses'. I love it when people say they don't get The Fall. It leaves more for the rest of us.
    Be less beastly...listen to The Fall.

    • @hyena131
      @hyena131 2 месяца назад

      @garethdavis5491
      little smith was a smeagol lookalike pisss head way over romanticized who babbles a lot of drunkenn, booze swaaat gibberish when ingterviewed...and it laghinly passes offf as 'geniius.'

  • @jaydivisi0n
    @jaydivisi0n 10 лет назад +4

    Please carry on making these! There's plenty of other British Masters out there!

  • @alternatereality85
    @alternatereality85 10 лет назад +3

    Great to see that theres life for Richard and Judy after their chat show. Great interview.

  • @mayhem492
    @mayhem492 2 года назад +1

    Love Mark, but he always seemed to be interviewed by people that seem to be in awe of him, a bit like Lydon, Zappa etc. It would have been nice to see him/them ‘taken on’ a bit more, by someone with some balls.

  • @HandleGF
    @HandleGF 4 года назад +3

    The Wealdstone Raider tribute act

  • @robertmorrison2959
    @robertmorrison2959 6 лет назад +4

    nobody lives where i live still

  • @devout666
    @devout666 9 лет назад +2

    Have watched this over and over, John Doran is excellent, but borderline terrified!

  • @mrjamescurry
    @mrjamescurry 5 лет назад +4

    The Real Deal - greatly missed

  • @kingdozerr
    @kingdozerr 9 месяцев назад +1

    The great and the only Mark E Smith

  • @nickj2704
    @nickj2704 9 месяцев назад +1

    "longest stable line up of the fall", famous last words

  • @StratsRUs
    @StratsRUs 3 года назад +2

    Love the Rowley Birkin QC in him.

  • @raythemechanic
    @raythemechanic 10 лет назад +3

    brilliant stuff, really enjoyed it.

  • @yodab.at1746
    @yodab.at1746 4 года назад +1

    The Walder Fraye of.... Something??....
    Brilliant interview

  • @lehliladevandria5712
    @lehliladevandria5712 4 года назад +2

    If you pay attention to Shaun Rider's attitude, swagger,and poetry style....it's very similar to Mark E. Smith.

    • @MaliciousChickenAgenda
      @MaliciousChickenAgenda 4 года назад

      I haven't heard Happy Monday's in years. My brother loves them

    • @lehliladevandria5712
      @lehliladevandria5712 4 года назад

      @@MaliciousChickenAgenda awww it sounds like your brother is nice.

    • @underdawg2743
      @underdawg2743 4 года назад +1

      Not really, Shaun sobered up yrs ago.

  • @gazriley624
    @gazriley624 6 лет назад +1

    R.I.P Mark seen The Fall in Liverpool years ago in the 80's

  • @nickgrant2906
    @nickgrant2906 3 года назад +1

    john doran and luke turner make journalism mean something

  • @noelrushton2322
    @noelrushton2322 10 лет назад +3

    Top Geezer is Mark

  • @InstallaFriend
    @InstallaFriend 7 лет назад +4

    'the gloup'

    • @neilsun2521
      @neilsun2521 5 лет назад

      "...they're so happy to be here..."

  • @SuperBagshot
    @SuperBagshot 3 месяца назад

    Did Mark put his trousers on back to front which Criss cross stole

  • @MrCoops5uk
    @MrCoops5uk 10 лет назад +2

    Brilliant! National treasure.

  • @youyatubetak7624
    @youyatubetak7624 4 года назад +1

    the interviewer trying to stick to his 'script' ha ha ha

  • @kikoaumond3439
    @kikoaumond3439 Год назад

    May I suggest this video to be watched with the auto-generated captions on. The captions turn out nothing like what Mark is saying (I am guessing here because I understood 50% of what he says at best) but the auto-generated captions read like Fall lyrics.

  • @SuperBagshot
    @SuperBagshot 3 месяца назад

    I don't remember giving them permission to film in my front room

  • @underdawg2743
    @underdawg2743 5 месяцев назад

    Shame I moved to Prestwich 5 years too late......

  • @colthepirate
    @colthepirate 10 лет назад +1

    ta for that John. I love a good MES interview

  • @Warp75
    @Warp75 6 лет назад +3

    MES RIP

  • @TheIkaraCult
    @TheIkaraCult Год назад

    I remember bacck when MES was in a wheelchair, calling it the PANZER of wheechairs :)

  • @nickmaffia1746
    @nickmaffia1746 3 года назад +1

    I like Arctic pumpkins.

  • @lui.s.e7400
    @lui.s.e7400 2 года назад

    Love this guy..listen to The Fall still and feel marginally contented, because I don't do joy, and I adore Mark E. Smith.

  • @Robhalifax
    @Robhalifax 10 лет назад +3

    He's looking quite well. Looks like we've got a few years left.

    • @NP-lz2bx
      @NP-lz2bx 4 года назад +8

      Care to predict how long I've got?

    • @popyarns462
      @popyarns462 4 года назад +2

      This has aged badly

    • @Robhalifax
      @Robhalifax 4 года назад +3

      @@popyarns462 He managed another 4 years.

    • @popyarns462
      @popyarns462 4 года назад

      @@Robhalifax I know. I assumed that you were hoping for a little more life than that. But fair enough if you had such an accurately bleak prognosis in mind, if so you nailed it.

    • @RT-zk7yr
      @RT-zk7yr 7 месяцев назад

      ​@@popyarns462he said a few years and he was correct

  • @TWENTYSEVENSTORIES
    @TWENTYSEVENSTORIES 5 лет назад +1

    Metal Jesus was good on this.

  • @malcolmcog
    @malcolmcog 10 лет назад +1

    Looking forward to the next album

  • @TheIkaraCult
    @TheIkaraCult 2 года назад

    MES gives the perfect balance to the Royals. King of the Britons.

  • @radiomindchatter7994
    @radiomindchatter7994 2 года назад

    I can't understand 3 quarters of what he is saying but I like it...

  • @discharge2331
    @discharge2331 Год назад

    Laughing at nothing .ahh ach g ha
    .fookin ach kakakam .k ow what I mean know what I mean

  • @kazman_6899
    @kazman_6899 Год назад

    If you squint, you can see a young MES. Freaky.

  • @krruns4165
    @krruns4165 3 года назад

    Does anyone know where this interview was recorded?

  • @Andy-fr2im
    @Andy-fr2im 6 лет назад +1

    comedy gold RIP Mark

  • @moderntart-nr2bu
    @moderntart-nr2bu 4 месяца назад +1

    He was class

  • @alboreham388
    @alboreham388 4 месяца назад

    This is the best MES interview out there, imo. 🤣

  • @officialmcdeath
    @officialmcdeath 6 лет назад +1

    Fookin guitars!

  • @owenmartin3307
    @owenmartin3307 Год назад

    What did he say about lou Reed anybody catch that?

  • @markclifton4107
    @markclifton4107 5 лет назад +1

    haha classic.

  • @kaptainhammer
    @kaptainhammer 10 лет назад +1

    Yes Mark !!!

  • @321bytor
    @321bytor 3 года назад

    Mark E Smith. Lovely

  • @davidneary5772
    @davidneary5772 Год назад

    Should rent his face out,

  • @kylemclachlan8651
    @kylemclachlan8651 2 года назад

    6:47 the quintessential MES sound

  • @leoodonnell5895
    @leoodonnell5895 11 месяцев назад

    he was right about the cameras

  • @waustinm
    @waustinm 4 года назад +4

    This was great till he had him sign his ipad. Gross.

    • @fuzzydunlop4513
      @fuzzydunlop4513 4 года назад +2

      So that negates the incredible interview and questions? Personally I don’t really care autographs but John Doran could still be a cool guy just because he wants mark e Smith’s autograph

    • @RT-zk7yr
      @RT-zk7yr 7 месяцев назад

      Doran is a nerd

  • @slartibartlast968
    @slartibartlast968 8 лет назад +3

    Kids, don't do drugs.

  • @sbsrf5615
    @sbsrf5615 8 лет назад +2

    Stay in school kids, don't do drugs