Johnny Marr - The British Masters - Chapter 4
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- Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
- John Doran meets The Smiths' Johnny Marr for the fourth chapter of The British Masters, our interview series featuring the most influential and colourful figures from British popular music history.
In John's words, Marr is "a musical savant who indelibly altered the sound of British rock and pop music. He soundtracked the adolescence of a generation and has been a beacon of inspiration to many born since."
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What a difference an informed interviewer makes.
preach, brother.
Blink bag
after watching Nardwuar, that became my mantra...Johns pretty damn good too.
I love how he was caught off guard when he was talking about the this charming man guitar part
Facts!
Title of this interview should be 'Jesus interviews God'
I have it on good authority that God does own a lambretta but drives a vespa.
...and Jesus drives a Nissan Micra...saw him in Frome(England)once, whilst waiting to take my daughter swimming.
but clapton isn't there
Love it!
@@jonasrmb01you have no taste. Everyone knows Jeff beck was better than Clapton so was a lot of other guitarists in that era. An amazing player don’t get me wrong but unfortunately it was a time where there was a lot of great players
dude its like a conversation between frodo and gandalf
lol
jajajajajaja
that made me laugh more than it should. Nice one!
Hahaha!!!!!
Haha I love youtube comments
“You just back up your best mate, til the end”....damn.
Why would you not back up your business partner ? You're both in it for the money. Bottom line.
@@geraldfrieberg7921 why do you keep going on in the comments about money? I don't think you understand The Smiths at all!
@@geraldfrieberg7921 you're a clown
Some Girls Are Bigger Than Others is a brilliant song. 'Send me the pillow. The one that you dream on'
ruclips.net/video/PdHl3yVYyUE/видео.html
Too right, no lyric change needed whatsoever
shit, posted a similar comment 5 years later, couldn't agree more, should have scrolled down.
It's a true pleasure to watch an interview where the interviewer is at pains to engage with the subject intelligently, and defy cliche in their questions. Of course, Marr is inherently interesting and (highly) intelligent, but the interviewer who fully allows him to demonstrate that is rare.
You nailed it...
when johnny says "we were best mates" and some girls starts playin.... why am I crying :(
Huh ? It's just MUSIC. Don't get so emotional. It's about making $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Gerald Frieberg it’s more than money
@@geraldfrieberg7921 It's more than money.
Literally Johnny is a legend, for the composition of every single song while being in The Smiths.
From critic point of view, those melodic and harmony songs are why lot of fans have such respect for him.
@@richham439 yeah, every song except the only two covers they did are highly revered
SAME my heart exploded.
Marr inspired me to stop using so many fuzz, overdrive and distortion pedals and focus on clean sounds. It will undoubtedly make me a better guitar player in the long run. His playing is so melodic, and unique, reminiscent of Spanish guitar via electric.
I totally agree. Of all the bands I like, my moms favourite is The Smiths, because it reminds her of her father’s guitar playing
Genuinely enjoyed this interview. Marr seems like a top guy.
+1 for actually including the RUclips clip of the guy headbanging. Great interview!
16:27
To people who think Morrissey's lyrics are a little silly & a crime to put over a guitar rift like this are really missing the point.
It's the "high brow-ness" & utter elegance of the guitar rift lifting up & elevating a throw away, fleeting, "low brow-ness" observation that "some girls are bigger than others" & taking that observation from the small into the infinite. That rift allows meaning, space & time to come out of the mundane lyrics, to magnify them & ponder them as a universe itself. It's truly a beautiful thing.
Riff were epic spacey lyrics were touching human essential emotions and critic too. That combo made the smiths the maybe best indie band ever.
I dread to think what John Doran will look like in the next episode. He's gone from being clean cut in chapter 1. He'll look like big foot at this rate.
Rob J seriously had no idea it was the same guy... i have only seen the Noel Gallagher episode and this one. WTF.
That beard has put years on him. Makes him look like a slacker.
Is he drinking Guinness through a straw?
It's refreshing to see interviews with your favorite musicians and discover that they are not only talented, but class acts. Johnny Marr is both.
Interesting that Johnny chooses Last Night I Dreamt That Somebody Loved Me as his favourite Smiths song, it's not one where the guitar element is particularly to the fore, or the most memorable aspect, although presumably he is also responsible for the string writing and arrangement too. Great song anyway. Also interesting that he agrees that Strangeways is his favourite album musically. It's probably more ambitious in its musical spectrum, but probably the least loved by Smiths fans. That may have to do with the fact that the songs were never played live, with it being released just after the split, so the songs were never taken directly to the fans or developed live. But I personally feel that while Strangeways is musically ambitious, bigger in sound and instantly accessible, apart from a few songs, it lacks a bit of that stripped down focus and urgency of the previous albums. Queen is Dead has the perfect balance between those two elements for me. Strangeways is perhaps just a bit less moving overall, to me anyway. Still an excellent album by any standards, and like all great bands, shows development not just repeating themselves. Damn they were just so bloody brilliant.
My favourite album by the Smith's&also Morrissey's 😃
Fucking love that song, got it blasting through the flat right now. Underrated and yes, lacking in his signature guitar, but what a huge song.
Wait.. .where did Marr say that?
@@estebansteverincon7117 Is that the single he signs at the end?
It’s my favorite album full stop. Morrissey’s as well. Better than the Queen is Dead by a smidge because it will never age; it wasn’t played live or on the radio to death and it is, pardon the pun, strange af when you really listen. Nothing before or since and all that guff.
Hey Johnny,
Can you adopt me?
I won't take up much space, just a place on the couch is fine. I don't want much, no food or drink...being around would hype me cool factor by a fuckin hundred.
sincerely,
everyone
Bob Bobberton lol
Good lord. Someone oughtta give John Doran a medal for some of the most well-considered questions in an interview I've seen in ages. I popped this video on as background to cleaning and, right off with the first question I sat down like "oh really?"
I absolutely lost it when he built up toward the reunion question and twisted it to Matt Johnson.
As for the "Some Girls" bit, I've always adored that song and the way the lyrics refrain from sentimentalizing something that may be too beautiful.
This is a good interview because he is a REAL fan , without doubt a collector of their music
I've been watching these and I have to say, it makes a lot of American rock stars look really stuck up.
Great interview. Johnny was great as always, but this is the most opened up I’ve seen him by an interviewer and in no small part down to the fantastic interviewer who was the most knowledgeable interviewer I’ve seen. Good stuff.
amazing interview. I love the part he back up Morrissey
Great interview
What a fantastic interviewer!
Great questions, voice was a bit depressing
Jonathan Gormal
Mick Fleetwood
Nic Flay manny
Wow this was a great interview. You know it's good when Johnny Marr mentions that nobody has ever asked him about the topic you're discussing with him (when they were talking about funk music)
+1 for the Chameleons reference.
Marr seems to be a very down to earth guy.
I saw Johnny Marr play last year, guy really cares about his live performances. If you get the chance, go see him.
+druii2 i second that
Saw him recently at his Manchester gig and couldn’t agree more👍🏻
druii2 he’s crap live and on record - I love the smiths but Jonny on his own is very lightweight
Electronic with Bernie
Ahaha 15:50 that troll "age old question" great interview!!
I like him as much as Hendrix. It’s the same thing really, they both seek different paths differently and achieve the same goal, emotion and beauty.
Brilliant interviewer. Well researched, intelligent, well articulated, brilliant questions not the same old tripe. Finally an interviewer who knows what he's doing. He read my mind with that question about 'some girls...'. I've been curious about that myself for some time.
I absolutely loved when he backed up Morrissey.
Jenny Fraser accurate he just didn’t know at the time. Morrissey just sucked everything out of him til he couldn’t go anymore.
Extremely talented, yet humble. What a great combination.
interviewer was excellent
Great to hear the Chameleons get a mention! Dave Fielding was a big fan of Johnny's playing, thought he was amazing, and Dave is no slouch.
Marr is a genius. I am someone who rarely uses that label, so that's a huge compliment.
with all the respect he gets, he just seems like a normal dude
I'd rather that than an egotistical knob like Axel Rose
@@jamesl5550 Axl Rose is just very misunderstood. He's one of the nicest and humblest people you'll ever meet. Even kinda shy and introverted.
Never heard of John Doran before tonight but he is a fantastic interviewer.. have now watched all the British Masters series and he is the nuts!!!!! Well researched, informed and most importantly interested in the people he interviews..
Just learned that Johnny Marr plays on Talking Heads Nothing but Flowers. It's so obvious. Only took me like 35 years to discover this. One of the greatest. I just wish this was a two hour interview!
Why is there annoying background music on this video?
Yeah, this is really really distracting... 8[
Johnny Marr is up there with the jangle styles of Roger McGuinn. He's beyond Peter Buck
Interesting comparison. Peter buck is a less is more master, which you can't deny. Johnny is totally different at The Smiths years. However, his solo work is less is more style.
Easily one of the most underrated guitar players of his time.
Fantastic interview! I appreciate how patient and gracious Johnny is when every question is related to music he made thirty years ago. His recognition of how important The Smiths are to so many people really shines through in every interview he does.
I always enjoy listening to Johhny Marr talk about his music/life, comes accross as a nice guy, down to earth and modest. Love his accounts of events in his life and of course totally in awe of his musical talent..
If I had to stick my neck out, I would say that Some Girls Are Bigger Than Others is the greatest piece of music EVER written. Floods of joyful tears when you hear it.
I like supergrass' version. Bring on the derision.
I have great respect and admiration for Johnny Marr. I love his playing.
Frankly the juxtaposition between Johnny’s beautiful guitar parts and Stephen’s snarky cynical lyrics makes for a brilliant multidimensional listening experience
That was an intelligent, insightful, awesome interview...well done, gentlemen....
Very cool interview. Doran has a great sense of patience in the conversation and knack for asking an insightful few questions.
That interviewer is a totally refreshing change to the norm and you can tell Johnny appreciates it.
This was a cool interview. Johnny Marr is such a great songwriter and guitarist. Morrissey gets most of the attention, but nobody would have known his name had it not been for Marr.
the part about Morrisey's lyrics is a testament to not only Johnny Marr but the true brotherhood of music - fucking superb stuff
I could listen to JM all day - every day, for the rest of my life and never get bored - he is the real fucking deal.. a musicians musician...!
good to see alan moore is a fan of johnny marr ;-)
Because you back up your mate to the very end that made me cry 😢
Watch between 2.31-2:46
Their drinks magically fill up
'Some Girls Are Bigger Than Others' is among my FAVOURITE Smith's songs!!! (Well, some girls JUST ARE!!!!) You can't explain, understand or sometimes even ACCEPT that, and NEITHER does the song! xx SF
@ Mr Hughes... (At least SOMEBODY else gets it!!!!!!) xx SF
+Steve Sandford yeah i love that as well, the tune and the lyrics, cant understand the issue there really :)
+Steve Sandford Are you high on methamphetamine, there, Steve? If i were to write a novel, and capture the essence of the way a speedfreak were talking, that's how I'd write it. But yes, that song is my absolute favorite too. God, that guitar riff.
You can tell that he's really having a good interview
Cool guitarist ... shouldn't sing
That was such a cool interview, thumbs up.
Great interview, not awkward or anything really, it jut seemed to flow along like a conversation between mates
I wasn't aware that Carlsberg produced interviews?
Interviwer is a bit of a suck up.. Relax.
Legend, one of Manchesters favorite sons.
This is fucking exceptional. Noisey should do intelligent interviews with talented people forever. At the very least it balances out Danny Brown and Mike Skinner talking about blowjobs (equally entertaining obviously).
champagne socialist Manc who lives in London
Excellent. Really enjoyed it especially because my girls are watching love island! Great interviewer and Mr Marr is a class act.
Most influential guitarist in history. Thanks for covering him.
Yeah… no
I still get goosebumps when I hear "How soon is now" I've always been a rock, heavy metal guy, but the first few seconds of that intro.. damn, made me stop what I was doing and just listen with my jaw hanging. I remember where I was, what I was doing, who I was with, every damn time. Love that song, I try not to listen to it too much, I don't want to lose where it takes me. Thank you! I love music that takes me back...
Same here with that song. I remember every little detail of where I was, how I felt, and what I was thinking when I first heard it. Like a time machine.
The stuff he did with The The was my favourite Marr period. It was like a total perfect escape from his work with The Smiths.
Really great interview and a really great subject. Great work.
The noisey interviewers always ask really great questions, good to see musicians being interviewed by people who understand their work.
he may not be considered as great as page or hendrix but none can deny he's definitely the coolest.
Edwin Samuel I can
Alex Lockley well, to each his own I guess.
Edwin Samuel
Hendrix is also WITHOUT doubt the coolest Man of all time.
Never gave two fucks what's considered.
he's better than page
I loved/love the Smiths, they were certainly PART of the soundtrack of my teenage years. I bought all their albums the second they were available, but about 10yrs ago a woman I was seeing for a couple of yrs (who I left when I caught her in bed with a 'friend'..) burnt them on a bonfire along with about another 100 albums that made up over 20yrs of my music collection......
I am still gutted over it. ps I don't get his beef with 'Some Girls', I think its a great song BUT then again I was never the cliched 'sleeve clinging angst ridden' Smiths fan, I really enjoy life if at all possible and have always tried to be positive!
I would have killed her, though that's not legal, but I would have definitely called the cops.
Tom Treacy Fucking hell I would have killed the woman!
Was her name Lucifer?
Shoplifters wasn't on Strangeways... it was on Louder Than Bombs. Johnny was nice enough to not correct him, or forgetful enough to not remember, or not caring enough to respond to it.
I take my hat off to you Mr Doran, you certainly know your stuff.. Great interview
Have always liked the way Marr could make a guitar 'ring.' Have a love for Bo Diddley's sound too. Diddley was pretty fun to watch. Could listen to 'Mona' all day long.
Okay now do Morrissey.
12:20 RIP Eddie Van Halen
Some Girls are bigger than others is one my favorites. If not my all time favorite of theirs. Who cares about the words, when the vocal melody and expression is just perfect for the track? 👍👍👍
The frequentish shots of Doran somehow made me realize all the more what a super guy Johnny Marr is. I can't get enough of him -- what he says and the way he says it. He doesn’t have annoying affectations. He doesn’t get sulky over old questions offered up as shrewd insights. He’s honest, but it’s not like a calculating kind of honesty designed to maintain an image. He's always willing to share useful and interesting stuff. He’s the emperor with clothes! YEAH, JOHNNY MARR!!!
Lol the way he described van halen was hillarious!
The Smiths and Van Halen have one thing in common, in that they all basically “hate” each other now..
DID MARR LEARN SCALES? PLEASE TELL ME!! if he didn't then i wont learn scales...
Never seen an interviewer open up an interviewee like this before.
I agree! I instantly fell in love with The Messenger, Upstarts and European Me. Then I had the entire album on repeat for a couple of days and every song is pretty damn good :-)
I only Know Johny Marr, because of His solo Album!! I heard New Town Velocity, while sitting in a Starbucks,, and had to find out who made that music. I found out it was Johny and ever since that I've been a fan. I had heard The Smiths, before and recognized that they were good, but Johny Marrs music carries things to a much deeper level, and gives the songs more time to breath. He is like George Harrison in that respect. Every time I listen to a George Harrison song, ostensibly approachable, I find a new layer and so it is with Johny Marr's music.
Check him out while he was in The Smiths you won’t be dissatisfied
He’s just so likeable, smart and talented. Legend.
You can watch this again and again and wonder at how Johnny is still one of the coolest, down to earth musicians. I like the fact that he makes no bones about being so proud about his work. And John is the perfect interviewer as ever.
I fucking love this. GREAT interview. Marr is turning into ManCartney.
You can see the look on Johnny's face when John starts talking about the Manchester bands, he is thinking, "ok so this guy really knows his stuff" respect
Really great interview. I love Johnny, but I also believe that Morrissey's lyrics to "Some Girls Are Bigger Than Others" are genius.
4:35 - The most passionate and truthful 'yeh' in the history of mankind.
You guys need to do Paul Weller
Please interview the grossly underrated peter buck from REM, talk about influencing the sound of one of the most important bands of all time!
Rather amusing to hear Johnny talk about the influence of punk, because on The South Bank Show when he was in The Smiths his comments regarding punk was "Personally I thought all those groups were crap" and ironically followed it up with "They meant nothing to me."
Jhonny Marr is one of the best musicians in the 20th century, so humble he is so smart.... a true genious. And listen to Stone Roses and Happu Mondays....the worl is lacking those amazing genious people, not those cheesy "tracks" around cheesy, pointless "artists"
Well wasn't that great? Or was it Satan? I proudly wear my "Johnny fuckin Marr" tshirts.
i thought the same thing the first time i heard Some Girls. but then...
"send me the pillow, the one that you dream on"
and that made it a lot better. and morrissey's vocals on it are beautiful towards the end.
as the song progresses you forgot the other lyrics entirely and just start dancing and going ham so it doesn't matter much anyways.
That was fucking fantastic.
Mr Marr shows his moral strength rejecting Morrissey's attempts for a money-grubbing best of release.
Respect.
It’s very kind to say the solo record is ‘Brilliant’ but is it really ? ‘Brilliant’ implies its 5 out of 5 like the seminal albums throughout the years.
If your gonna review an album just be honest
Wow! How refreshing! An interviewer who asks intelligent questions about music. Thank you for doing this. :)
At first I thought they were having Guinness, then I saw the lemon. Tea-totaller, right?
brilliant interviews, these....and yeah, i love some girls, for me it s brilliant, the lyrics and the tune :)