Have you heard about fuel consumption figures being fudged, diesel power and emission claims subverted by special covert software; well known, highly poisonous tetraethyl lead additive being used for most of the 20th century, oil tankers breaking up and destroying whole eco systems, exhaust fumes used as a favourite suicide method, etc, etc??? If you want to be taken seriously, first, you should try to deal seriously with reality!
Have you heard about fuel consumption figures being fudged, diesel power and emission claims subverted by special covert software; well known, highly poisonous tetraethyl lead additive being used for most of the 20th century, oil tankers breaking up and destroying whole eco systems, exhaust fumes used as a favourite suicide method, etc, etc??? If you want to be taken seriously, first, you should try to deal seriously with reality!
Have you heard about fuel consumption figures being fudged, diesel power and emission claims subverted by special covert software; well known, highly poisonous tetraethyl lead additive being used for most of the 20th century, oil tankers breaking up and destroying whole eco systems, etc, etc, etc??? If you want to be taken seriously, first, you should try to deal seriously with reality!
My neighbour woeks for the council. His van spends half his shift on charge. He turns everything on, the lights, the aircon, the heater! He doesnt work more than 3 hours a day! 😅 he loves his electric van 😂
My neighbor works for Leeds council. He has a diesel van. He doesn't do more than 3: hours a day, so it's maybe not the electric van that's the issue !
i drove a 40 year old audi ur quattro this evening with the lights and heater on . no drama , no depreciation - just appreciation of a well built car with great noise
as a employee of a very well known delivery service using electric vans , i can say i love them as i spend a lot of time sat dooing naff all charging .getting paid to watch youtube :)
That's because your an employee and you get paid if your on the road or waiting for it to charge. If it was your own business you wouldn't want it off the road for a long period to charge your van. Wile if you had a petrol or diseal you can have it full in less than 5 minutes. The time it takes to charge with a EV is time that you could be spending doing deliveries with a petrol or diseal.
100 miles when loaded for work is pretty much not happening either. I hired an EV van for a month. I gave it back after 2 weeks. Not fit for purpose. When loaded for work. I was getting 50 miles per 2 hour charge! Being no3 in a charge queue is not fun. Driving out of the way to a charger is not fun. Wasting time charging, queuing to charge, cancelling appointments because charging issues. Time is money. The local plumber calls his eTransit his £50,000 mistake for all the above reasons. He uses his diesel car, because it works. My buddy is a British gas engineer. He got a milk float van forced on him. He now spends 4 hours of his working day sat in a carpark charging it on pay instead of actually working.
Funny. My mate has the same van and charges overnight, gives him 200 miles of range in the winter with the heater on… he does no where near 200 miles a day.
@stevebishop1161 the only way an electric van will do 200 miles is if it's empty and it gets towed for 30 miles. The one I hired when empty did 170 miles per charge. Carrying weight decimated the range.
@@stevebishop1161 because if he did 100 miles a day his argument wouldn't work. It's a bit like these people somehow need to drive from London to Edinburgh with a caravan without stopping.
@@Andrew-q2c6d I must admit, I skim read the comments and read this one as Australia. I thought 'why would an Australian postal worker want the heating on at this time of year?' I suppose the Austrian postal employees could bring a small diesel heater to work, good job post service vans don't carry anything combustible.
My daughter's electric van (company's) ran out of range 3 quarters of the way through her delivery round, (busy at Xmas, surprise) the company sent out a *rented* diesel van to finish the deliveries. You couldn't make it up🙃
Have heard about this going on. Amazon did have at one stage a few EV transit vans on their fleets apparently they would have to go back to the depots early and swap for a diesel van to finish the rounds.
I have said this before. There's going to be a lot of vehicle manufacturers going out of business and their dealers. No companies can take these loses for long.
A RUclipsr bought a VW camper van to do the NC500. It was torture just watching his experience. It was 5 days of stressfully watching that battery go flat and finding charger after charger that were off-line. Absolute gold plated 💩
@@heather333 I’ve seen them roamingradfords. Great guy.. Watching the videos is clearly not a holiday but a horrid experience with charging anxiety and it was winter with no one else around. So all the charges were available,though some weren’t working when arrived to charge with minimal miles left.. ruclips.net/video/EoMVVmRGlWk/видео.htmlsi=x3ITLDKhgSSdyrDc
Spoke to a DPD driver a couple of weeks ago who was driving an electric van. He couldn't have the heating on or radio, otherwise he couldn't complete his deliveries. Crazy!
For those who cannot appreciate the joys of parcel delivery. At my last job, one round was at Wisbech. Our depot is Lincoln 58+ miles each way BEFORE any deliveries That would be fun with an e-van
Exactly I asked an Amazon delivery driver about the range on his new van. He snorted and said barely 100miles. Bearing in mind all the Amazon depots around me (3) are app 25 miles away that's 50 miles return journey before you add on the stop/start of actually delivering!! Not sure how they are paid but they are not known for hanging around so I expect their pay is connected to actual parcels delivered. With an e van they'll be out of pocket quickly.
@@albinklein7680 Our firm runs sprinters with around 280+ miles on them .. There actually not replacing them as frequently in recent times as the price of the new ones has increased by 100% in 7 years
Hello from Ireland again, I Agree with everything you're saying, lol. I will never buy an EV, no matter how much of a Discount, they give us. 100 Mile range, is Comicule lol. How can any Government, expect us to believe this Scam? Great video, as always, Matey. Happy Xmas, + Family. 🙏🙏🎅🎅🎅👌👏👏👏👏👏👏
Can't beat my 20-y-o Toyota with 45,000 miles on the clock. Cost me £1000 to purchase (and it's ULEZ compliant). Who the hell has north of £20,000 to spend on 4 wheels to get from A to B?
It's not a scam as such. It's just that one solution doesn't fit all problems. If you are just using the vehicle to go to work and back and go to the supermarket etc., then a small to medium sized ev could be an ideal option, if you charge it at home. If you need to use the vehicle constantly, throughout the day (like a delivery company might), then perhaps other options are better.
Just had a great idea. I can advertise £1 pound coins for £10, and then advertise them for half price at only £5, how many people do you think I will fool with that one? I'm going to make a fortune.
@@benhamilton5692 First that is not how fractional reserve banking works. Second have you not seen coins for sale before? Third do you not understand a joke?
Wow !! I was laughing so much , that range even with those discounts NOT A CHANCE in hell !! They are a total waste of materials, excellent video, keep telling the truth , more people might wake up to how bad these EV’s are 👍🏼
It's not range it's milage. He's so thick he can't tell the difference. The range option was literally two rows down from the milage. If I had to guess, he thought he had such a great anti EV story that all thought of checking his material went out the window! He should apply for a job a a journalist for the Daily Fail. They like people of his calibre! 😜
I wouldn't think people will keep the milk floats 17 months and it wouldn't even last 17:years, but hey that's progress and environment friendly I suppose?!. Although they chuff out a bit of pollution would say a ICE vehicle able to last that long is maximum environment friendly as it hasn't been replaced every few years and at least the heater works in winter!.
Started with city busses. Big arse generators too, 160kW ones. 40 liters an hour in diesel or so I believe I looked up? might have that wrong, it's a shit ton either way
Nice one Tony. Been waiting for someone to address the issue of EV vans. They are simply not up to serious commercial uses. If we continue down this road, it’s really going to harm the economy as everything will cost twice as much and take twice as long. Madness
Perhaps the penny will finally drop when the government morons try to mandate E. H.G.V.`s Only then will the " experts " crawl back under their stones .
even if they discounted all EVs by 50%I wouldn't have one and they're going to have to discount diesels by 50% too before I can afford a new one ever again !
I’m keeping my Transit custom , my wife had a polestar 2, the home charger didn’t work because a slug got in the pod point and fused it ! It took NPG and pod point four months to fix it. This weekend it’s going back and I’m getting her a diesel. Tax me all you want!
I hear British Gas have parked all their EV service vehicles on a military field and are returning to ICE vans because they cannot meet their customer call out ratio…..this needs to be broadcast to the country
The buyer should be sacked. EVs can do jobs but they have to be able to do the job you bought them for. And that applies to ice also. Or any purchase of anything
One at my neighbours last week, wish I’d asked him about the range but he looked a miserable tw*t . Brilliant content as usual Forrest, sorry I mean Tony. ❤
Wrong. My buddy is a British gas engineer. He still has an EV van. He still spends 4 hours per day charging the thing... On pay. No wonder you can't get a gas engineer. Range... They get about 80 miles per charge.
@@bentullett6068 let’s also do the same for the cost of the fuel versus the charge cost and also the emissions released, or cost of the clean air charge.. It’s coming, ready or not I’m afraid.
I’m loving the idea of a refrigerated EV running out of charge or getting caught in a traffic jam. First you’re stranded then the food spoils. It’s win, win 😂.
Plumber requires customers within a ten mile radius, book early as calls are limited to five a day, the last call will need to have an EV charger in order for me to reach home.
My brother had a basic small transit van for 12 years. He treated it like sh*t, and it never gave him a problem. But that was in the days when vehicles were well made, not like today.
About time someone covered vans. I am going to be needing a new van and it’s an unfathomable situation. Electric vans have hopeless range,all vans are ridiculously expensive compared to cars and hybrids(which could be really useful for exportable power)are even more expensive and practically unavailable
So funny. My brother drives 38 miles twice a day to where he is working at the moment. Now he can go almost all week on a tank of diesel in his old Renault transit size van with a full load of tools and ladders and bags of plaster or cement or bricks and back with the rubbish too. Couple of weeks ago there was a major accident and in the cold he sat there for four hours with the heater on and the windscreen wipers and lights and had to make a 20 mile diversion. Can someone tell me how you do that in a EV van?
Just what is the point!! The price of vans is just nuts and it doesnt matter if its EV or diesel! There is no way in hell am i going to spend that kind of cash on a van… its getting out of hand!! No wonder the industry is going down hill fast… its nuts! My van was £14000 plus vat 8 years ago! Mercedes citan! Looks like i will have it a further 8 years! 🚜🇬🇧🏴
XL sprinters in 2017 £27k plus vat Today before discount £54k plus vat 100% increase. Our prices on our products has increased by 26% in the same period.. Clearly the firm is running them for a lot longer..
I agree, I bought my movano griffen edition with all the extras for £28k inc vat 3 years ago. Hoping it will be the last van I ever buy as they are too expensive and ev vans are just shit.
@@RickBlaine Clearly you do 40 miles a day loaded.. Our fleet of sprinters do minimum 150 miles per day,though do regular 480 miles per day loaded.. 860-980 kilo payload to stay within the 3.5 ton regulations They’re brilliant workhorses.
Twenty years ago I would take my Ford Transit 25Di Smiley Front down to Gatwick, then Bluewater, four drops in London, to Heathrow, then Reading, then Luton, then Milton Keynes then Back to Heathrow five or six drops around the airport then home. An E-van would not be able to do all that in one day, the weight of the batteries no doubt reduces the weight you can carry too so forget it Ed!
Been driving an e-nv200 electric van for 10 years now, its brilliant for local stuff, has saved me a lot in fuel (run it on my solar all summer) but i take a different vehicle for long journeys. My van was only 15k brand new, i think its earned its keep. In 10 years its only had tyres, a 12v battery and one set of drop links. Still on its original brake pads etc.
Had to really laugh when you mentioned the refrigerated E van really what are manufacturers thinking about selling ice creams from the drive way Ha🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
My extended Chevy Express van has a 30 gallon gas tank. I get about 500 miles per tank. I top it off once a week and it normally takes about 10 minutes. Now how often do you need to charge up your EV and how many miles do you get and how many hours does it take to charge it?
GREAT VIDEO.!! I have been waiting for a video about electric vans and depreciation. So where are they stock piling these vans that are not selling and what are they going to do with the ones don't sell at all?!?!?! I am a subscriber.
I used to do deliveries in a van I went from Birmingham to London. to complete everything took 12 hours that's with no breaks and driving flatout there and back. No EV van could do this and whats more is the drivers will be pushed to make up the charging time because it doesn't matter to the company you work for if you get done for speeding as there are plenty more to take their place
I was looking at a new diesel proace a couple of weeks ago. They gave me an electric van for the test drive. I put on the heating full power and drove it as heavily as i could on the throttle and it used about 20% of the charge in 8 miles.
😆 i'd have walked back to my vehicle, climbed in and driven away. 🤙 me when you've got a diesel i can try out, i'll let you know where i am so you can drop it off to me.
Talking to an electrician who has to drive an ID Buzz commercial, it’s nearly maxed out weight wise and he said it’s 150 miles max in the summer,120/130 in winter with no radio,heater etc. He said it’s lovely to drive but crap as a commercial vehicle.
and replacing them with chargers for literally 10x as long. womp womp womp, suckers be suckered to oblivion. Minutes at a petrol station is so little time you don't even remember it. Fuggin tools for even trying that as an argument 🤣
A McDonalds near me has 4 charging points and they are used on occasion, right next to the McD's is a car park also with 4 charge points (all are instavolt) and they are used rarely too. That tells me something. I also wonder come next April with the government charge any cay companies the fine for not selling cars to people who don't want them?
Glad I will never need to buy a van of any sort. How do British gas and companies who rely on vans for deliveries etc, make any money? Great videos, just subscribed keep up the good work because it's important we know the truth.
the complete truth 100 percent true . and very funny and entertaining as well lol . thanks for the offer but i will keep my 1990s transit with the Banana bomb proof engine go forever and can fix it with with a spanner a screwdriver and a hammer if by chance anything does go wrong . great vid thanks
So in winter, you couldn't move house more than 20 miles away. Two trips and you're done. And not if it's hilly. What are the hire companies going to rent out?
I can just imagine the people who paid full price for their electric white elephant are absolutely delighted to see the same model being sold for half of what they paid.
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At half price they are still shit.
Agreed 👍
It's brilliant enit lol the wheel are coming off the whole EV nonsense. 80Gs for a van with 50% off is still 25k to expensive🤣✌️🇮🇪
The wheels are coming off😂 if they were ever on in the first place
If you had a free place to park, you could live in it! Then buy a good used diesel for a primary car.
@@terrysadlier8456 dunno what news you are watching… 58% of new car sales in the U.K. in November were EVs…
You know what’s coming, Have you been sold an electric vehicle and lied to about its range ? Claim here. 😂
It's already in the process of going to court right now.
Have you heard about fuel consumption figures being fudged, diesel power and emission claims subverted by special covert software; well known, highly poisonous tetraethyl lead additive being used for most of the 20th century, oil tankers breaking up and destroying whole eco systems, exhaust fumes used as a favourite suicide method, etc, etc???
If you want to be taken seriously, first, you should try to deal seriously with reality!
Have you heard about fuel consumption figures being fudged, diesel power and emission claims subverted by special covert software; well known, highly poisonous tetraethyl lead additive being used for most of the 20th century, oil tankers breaking up and destroying whole eco systems, exhaust fumes used as a favourite suicide method, etc, etc???
If you want to be taken seriously, first, you should try to deal seriously with reality!
Have you heard about fuel consumption figures being fudged, diesel power and emission claims subverted by special covert software; well known, highly poisonous tetraethyl lead additive being used for most of the 20th century, oil tankers breaking up and destroying whole eco systems, etc, etc, etc???
If you want to be taken seriously, first, you should try to deal seriously with reality!
Brilliant!🤣 I hope your prediction comes true
My neighbour woeks for the council. His van spends half his shift on charge. He turns everything on, the lights, the aircon, the heater! He doesnt work more than 3 hours a day! 😅 he loves his electric van 😂
You’d think they’d charge them overnight
@edc1569 they do😂
How responsible. Which council exactly so I can report it?
3 hours a day working for a council worker is good going..
My neighbor works for Leeds council. He has a diesel van. He doesn't do more than 3: hours a day, so it's maybe not the electric van that's the issue !
i drove a 40 year old audi ur quattro this evening with the lights and heater on . no drama , no depreciation - just appreciation of a well built car with great noise
as a employee of a very well known delivery service using electric vans , i can say i love them as i spend a lot of time sat dooing naff all charging .getting paid to watch youtube :)
Mitie by chance
This is brilliant news for all the lazy new demographic
this is why the UK is leading the way in productivity lol
That's because your an employee and you get paid if your on the road or waiting for it to charge. If it was your own business you wouldn't want it off the road for a long period to charge your van. Wile if you had a petrol or diseal you can have it full in less than 5 minutes. The time it takes to charge with a EV is time that you could be spending doing deliveries with a petrol or diseal.
Good for you, 😂
100 miles when loaded for work is pretty much not happening either.
I hired an EV van for a month.
I gave it back after 2 weeks. Not fit for purpose.
When loaded for work.
I was getting 50 miles per 2 hour charge!
Being no3 in a charge queue is not fun.
Driving out of the way to a charger is not fun.
Wasting time charging, queuing to charge, cancelling appointments because charging issues.
Time is money.
The local plumber calls his eTransit his £50,000 mistake for all the above reasons.
He uses his diesel car, because it works.
My buddy is a British gas engineer.
He got a milk float van forced on him.
He now spends 4 hours of his working day sat in a carpark charging it on pay instead of actually working.
Funny. My mate has the same van and charges overnight, gives him 200 miles of range in the winter with the heater on… he does no where near 200 miles a day.
@@sahhull it doesn't take 4hrs to fast charge. Stop telling porkies for attention.
@stevebishop1161 the only way an electric van will do 200 miles is if it's empty and it gets towed for 30 miles.
The one I hired when empty did 170 miles per charge.
Carrying weight decimated the range.
@ that’s great. But why are you doing 200 miles a day???
@@stevebishop1161 because if he did 100 miles a day his argument wouldn't work.
It's a bit like these people somehow need to drive from London to Edinburgh with a caravan without stopping.
The Austria postal service bought hundreds of EV vans. Today I see on Austria news that their drivers cannot turn on the heat while driving. No range.
It is a law in Austria not to turn the heating on in winter? Or nor yet?..
I am asking for a friend..
what about h&s and employment law got to keep your staff warm
Lucky it doesn't get cold in Austria in the winter then 😂
@@Andrew-q2c6d I must admit, I skim read the comments and read this one as Australia. I thought 'why would an Australian postal worker want the heating on at this time of year?' I suppose the Austrian postal employees could bring a small diesel heater to work, good job post service vans don't carry anything combustible.
Apparently the Royal Mail are going to go full electric, maybe the new Czech owner will have a different idea !
My daughter's electric van (company's) ran out of range 3 quarters of the way through her delivery round, (busy at Xmas, surprise) the company sent out a *rented* diesel van to finish the deliveries. You couldn't make it up🙃
Have heard about this going on. Amazon did have at one stage a few EV transit vans on their fleets apparently they would have to go back to the depots early and swap for a diesel van to finish the rounds.
Superb🤣 This is what happens when politicians and ideology get in the way of the real world.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I have said this before. There's going to be a lot of vehicle manufacturers going out of business and their dealers. No companies can take these loses for long.
The UK as a whole is going out of business. No need to single out any particular part of it.
@@michaeld5888you're not wrong, it's a handcart going on the slippery slope to hell 😮🎉
All part of the Marxist plan.
Its by design
tell the BBC
I've found them a replacement for Greg Wallace
😂
No, he wouldn't be interested, already got his fingers in too many pies!
Bake off my arse!!
😂😂😂😂
❤😂🎉😊
A RUclipsr bought a VW camper van to do the NC500. It was torture just watching his experience. It was 5 days of stressfully watching that battery go flat and finding charger after charger that were off-line.
Absolute gold plated 💩
Roamin makes videos from these near death extinction events , he knows what he is doing for his audience.
@@heather333
I’ve seen them roamingradfords.
Great guy..
Watching the videos is clearly not a holiday but a horrid experience with charging anxiety and it was winter with no one else around.
So all the charges were available,though some weren’t working when arrived to charge with minimal miles left..
ruclips.net/video/EoMVVmRGlWk/видео.htmlsi=x3ITLDKhgSSdyrDc
Watched it too knowing what the result will be but made me appreciate even more my diesel XC90 towing a twin axle.
@
Absolutely
Defender 110 with twin axle
@@heather333 funny that. Yet we’ve done the same route in an EV with no issues at all. That video was made to look like that to keep you happy…
I’ll stay with my 17 year old t5 it’s lovely, e vans after the 3 years lease, worth two bob and a chicken 😂
I'd go up to ten bob and a dead rabbit 😂
That's £4.10p, I ain't paying that much.
Not a whole chicken, surely
I would definitely value a chicken higher than an EV. On a full charge of corn the chicken has a greater range.
I may go to a budgie.
Excellent video so true I work in the commercial van / truck industry but we are not allowed to say anything 😁
What happened to freedom of speech in the UK?
What are you not allowed to say?
All gone suspiciously quiet on the Tesla semi front ? Claimed 500 miles range? Imagine the charging time on one of those!
@@salnaturile8653 Delivering packets of crisps depot to depot is what they do.
Spoke to a DPD driver a couple of weeks ago who was driving an electric van. He couldn't have the heating on or radio, otherwise he couldn't complete his deliveries. Crazy!
That was funny! My 2012 Transit van has done nearly 200,000 miles and has a 580 mile range. I'm never getting rid of it.
For those who cannot appreciate the joys of parcel delivery.
At my last job, one round was at Wisbech.
Our depot is Lincoln
58+ miles each way BEFORE any deliveries
That would be fun with an e-van
Wisbeckistan.
That's like me, when I worked for Everest Double Glazing. They had the logistical skills of a Cheeseburger.
Exactly I asked an Amazon delivery driver about the range on his new van. He snorted and said barely 100miles.
Bearing in mind all the Amazon depots around me (3) are app 25 miles away that's 50 miles return journey before you add on the stop/start of actually delivering!!
Not sure how they are paid but they are not known for hanging around so I expect their pay is connected to actual parcels delivered.
With an e van they'll be out of pocket quickly.
EV junk, I’ll stick to my 50,000 mile Transit T350
Wise choice mate
My 2003 Vauxhall combo van has 480,000 miles under its tyres.
It's still more fit for purpose than an EV.
My 2009 Sprinter van (130hp OM646) gets close to 500,000 Kilometres. Runs fine.
@@albinklein7680
Our firm runs sprinters with around 280+ miles on them ..
There actually not replacing them as frequently in recent times as the price of the new ones has increased by 100% in 7 years
Our electric car loses 45 miles with the heater,wippers,lights and because of the cold weather this time of year.
What is the car?
“Wippers”?
@@doriangray6985
There all the same 🤣
45, thats good, mine loses 100
Who on god's earth would pay that sort of money on a commercial vehicle
with a range of 100 miles if you're lucky?
100 miles with one guy amd a empty van😂
Corporations trying to please the woke audience (who probably never have to drive or rely upon them for a living).
Hello from Ireland again, I Agree with everything you're saying, lol. I will never buy an EV, no matter how much of a Discount, they give us. 100 Mile range, is Comicule lol. How can any Government, expect us to believe this Scam? Great video, as always, Matey. Happy Xmas, + Family. 🙏🙏🎅🎅🎅👌👏👏👏👏👏👏
Can't beat my 20-y-o Toyota with 45,000 miles on the clock. Cost me £1000 to purchase (and it's ULEZ compliant). Who the hell has north of £20,000 to spend on 4 wheels to get from A to B?
Electric is a scam and people fell for it 😂😂😂😂
Not all of us
"Electric is a scam and people are being forced by the government and their shills to adopt a less efficient mode of transport"
Fixed, free of charge.
It's not a scam as such. It's just that one solution doesn't fit all problems. If you are just using the vehicle to go to work and back and go to the supermarket etc., then a small to medium sized ev could be an ideal option, if you charge it at home. If you need to use the vehicle constantly, throughout the day (like a delivery company might), then perhaps other options are better.
Why not, they fell for convid and the jab...
I really love your EV bashing videos, can't get enough of them. Cheers 👍
Just had a great idea. I can advertise £1 pound coins for £10, and then advertise them for half price at only £5, how many people do you think I will fool with that one? I'm going to make a fortune.
You would be arrested for fraud - only the Banks can do this - it's called fractional reserve Banking.
@@benhamilton5692 First that is not how fractional reserve banking works. Second have you not seen coins for sale before? Third do you not understand a joke?
Yeh, I'll buy one, for half price at a fiver..that's a great saving half price 😂
Brilliant thanks ❤🎉😂
Wow !! I was laughing so much , that range even with those discounts NOT A CHANCE in hell !! They are a total waste of materials, excellent video, keep telling the truth , more people might wake up to how bad these EV’s are 👍🏼
Remember that he said motorway miles. When you start running around the country lanes and city, you’ll find that dropping quite rapidly.
It's not range, it's odo reading, he made a mistake 🤣
8.38 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 brilliant comedic comment! 'unless you're moving next door!!!!
@@tonyhaynes9080 quite the opposite actually. 40 to 50 mph on country lanes is a happy place for EVs.
It's not range it's milage.
He's so thick he can't tell the difference.
The range option was literally two rows down from the milage.
If I had to guess, he thought he had such a great anti EV story that all thought of checking his material went out the window!
He should apply for a job a a journalist for the Daily Fail.
They like people of his calibre!
😜
Brilliant Tony, keep the videos coming
17 year old t5 200000 miles still drives like a dream
2003 vauxhall combo 1.7di.
480,000 miles and still going strong.
I service it myself.
2008 T5 TDi 160,000 miles service it myself, drives perfectly.
I wouldn't think people will keep the milk floats 17 months and it wouldn't even last 17:years, but hey that's progress and environment friendly I suppose?!.
Although they chuff out a bit of pollution would say a ICE vehicle able to last that long is maximum environment friendly as it hasn't been replaced every few years and at least the heater works in winter!.
Great video, the stealerships will be going bump in the new year.Well done Starmer and Milliband.
I've seen EV vans parked up being charged up with petrol generators!! FFS....the world has gone genuinely mental.
Started with city busses. Big arse generators too, 160kW ones. 40 liters an hour in diesel or so I believe I looked up? might have that wrong, it's a shit ton either way
Nice one Tony. Been waiting for someone to address the issue of EV vans. They are simply not up to serious commercial uses. If we continue down this road, it’s really going to harm the economy as everything will cost twice as much and take twice as long. Madness
Perhaps the penny will finally drop when the government morons try to mandate E. H.G.V.`s Only then will the " experts " crawl back under their stones .
even if they discounted all EVs by 50%I wouldn't have one and they're going to have to discount diesels by 50% too before I can afford a new one ever again !
Brilliant. It’s always great to have a really good laugh ! Thanks for your work. 👍⛽️👍⛽️👍⛽️
We are very much tuned in 👍
Love you mate give it to them saving the planet my arse
I wouldn't want one if they were giving them away with every happy meal at mc d's.
cost about the same now
I would take them
I laughed so much with this comment brilliant mate
All this electric stuff is for the incoming 15 min neighbourhoods
Trouble is they need to start the 15 minute commute first then roll EV out..
I’m keeping my Transit custom , my wife had a polestar 2, the home charger didn’t work because a slug got in the pod point and fused it ! It took NPG and pod point four months to fix it. This weekend it’s going back and I’m getting her a diesel. Tax me all you want!
I hear British Gas have parked all their EV service vehicles on a military field and are returning to ICE vans because they cannot meet their customer call out ratio…..this needs to be broadcast to the country
If this is true you should contact the author of this video.
The buyer should be sacked. EVs can do jobs but they have to be able to do the job you bought them for.
And that applies to ice also.
Or any purchase of anything
BG have no doubt been warned of heavy government fines to disclose the truth....
One at my neighbours last week, wish I’d asked him about the range but he looked a miserable tw*t . Brilliant content as usual Forrest, sorry I mean Tony. ❤
Wrong.
My buddy is a British gas engineer.
He still has an EV van.
He still spends 4 hours per day charging the thing... On pay.
No wonder you can't get a gas engineer.
Range... They get about 80 miles per charge.
Just watched your video buddy ,good stuff . First advert after was for electric Merc suv how funny
Oh, I impolitely forget to say how much I love you videos on these vehicles (milk floats) Peace and goodwill.
I’m going to be late because I’m driving the future. Made me laugh 🤣
I wouldn't take an EV for free. Not kidding.
Milk float vans that need to travel further out of town with weight....No Chance ,
This is why an electric motorhome is a no no. Highly impractical as a leisure vehicle.
@@ghunt9146 Absolutely....
It would be interesting to run a test with a EV van vs a actual old milk float. I bet the old milk float would beat the new van on range.
@@bentullett6068 let’s also do the same for the cost of the fuel versus the charge cost and also the emissions released, or cost of the clean air charge.. It’s coming, ready or not I’m afraid.
Those discounts fall faster than 💩off a shovel. 🤣
Future My Arse, you make me roll up every time, thank you for your valued insight.
Great video mate. Made me laugh. Happy Christmas 👍🏻
great vid as always , imagine the people who paid the full price a year ago , i dont know a single plumber or tradesman that have got one
I've seen a few tradesmen in their ev's. Usually green energy electricians and decorators.
a new byd showroom in Bristol can’t believe you weren’t invited to the grand opening 😂
It's a long way to thumb a lift.
Are they having a barbecue there. I saw a BYD dealer in China had a barbecue at their dealership and it looked great.
Build your debt, burn your driveway, burn your dealership, bringing you disappointment, bro… you didn’t 🤔🤔🤔
@@bentullett6068Be the last BBQ you go to though if you sniff those fumes! - so good for the planet 😂.
Love it and your funny keep it up rain man..{your new name BTW}
Autotrader has drunk the EV Kool Aid, or they are being given massive backhanders.
There’s a fisker ocean electric on there at £20k for a 24 reg and no one wants it
Massive money from hm government I think. They are shoving EVs like no tomorrow.
Loving your work Tony
16k subs but over 43,000 views in 20hrs... Good for you Tony.👍 Love your content.
Keep up the good work Tony. I love your videos
I’m loving the idea of a refrigerated EV running out of charge or getting caught in a traffic jam. First you’re stranded then the food spoils. It’s win, win 😂.
Plumber requires customers within a ten mile radius, book early as calls are limited to five a day, the last call will need to have an EV charger in order for me to reach home.
My brother had a basic small transit van for 12 years. He treated it like sh*t, and it never gave him a problem. But that was in the days when vehicles were well made, not like today.
About time someone covered vans. I am going to be needing a new van and it’s an unfathomable situation.
Electric vans have hopeless range,all vans are ridiculously expensive compared to cars and hybrids(which could be really useful for exportable power)are even more expensive and practically unavailable
Had to work on a new unregistered vito E, fully charged was showing 94mile range
So funny. My brother drives 38 miles twice a day to where he is working at the moment. Now he can go almost all week on a tank of diesel in his old Renault transit size van with a full load of tools and ladders and bags of plaster or cement or bricks and back with the rubbish too. Couple of weeks ago there was a major accident and in the cold he sat there for four hours with the heater on and the windscreen wipers and lights and had to make a 20 mile diversion. Can someone tell me how you do that in a EV van?
If I had to guess I would say you would need one with a 200 mile actual range and home charger.
That would do it I think.
My Citroen C15 car/van was 800 quid. 1.9 diesel rated to carry 670 kg. ultra reliable and surprisingly huge space in the back. Love it.
Just what is the point!! The price of vans is just nuts and it doesnt matter if its EV or diesel! There is no way in hell am i going to spend that kind of cash on a van… its getting out of hand!! No wonder the industry is going down hill fast… its nuts! My van was £14000 plus vat 8 years ago! Mercedes citan! Looks like i will have it a further 8 years! 🚜🇬🇧🏴
XL sprinters in 2017 £27k plus vat
Today before discount £54k plus vat
100% increase.
Our prices on our products has increased by 26% in the same period..
Clearly the firm is running them for a lot longer..
I agree, I bought my movano griffen edition with all the extras for £28k inc vat 3 years ago. Hoping it will be the last van I ever buy as they are too expensive and ev vans are just shit.
I run a merc van and the maintenance is killing me. Next time EV.
@@RickBlaine
Clearly you do 40 miles a day loaded..
Our fleet of sprinters do minimum 150 miles per day,though do regular 480 miles per day loaded..
860-980 kilo payload to stay within the 3.5 ton regulations
They’re brilliant workhorses.
@@Only-one-life-68
"Clearly" I do 120km a day loaded. $A1438 for a bloody serpentine belt and a pulley and two days off the road.
Twenty years ago I would take my Ford Transit 25Di Smiley Front down to Gatwick, then Bluewater, four drops in London, to Heathrow, then Reading, then Luton, then Milton Keynes then Back to Heathrow five or six drops around the airport then home. An E-van would not be able to do all that in one day, the weight of the batteries no doubt reduces the weight you can carry too so forget it Ed!
Imagine the electric refridgerated one, the payload would be the weekly shop for a family of 4 at Tesco and that's about it.
Very good Well put together video. Well done.
😂 brutally honest like your videos keep it going
Been driving an e-nv200 electric van for 10 years now, its brilliant for local stuff, has saved me a lot in fuel (run it on my solar all summer) but i take a different vehicle for long journeys. My van was only 15k brand new, i think its earned its keep. In 10 years its only had tyres, a 12v battery and one set of drop links. Still on its original brake pads etc.
First Time on your site Loved It Subscribed my sense of humour Maybe we are related anyways will be checking out your Vids Keep em coming yours CHAOS!
Had to really laugh when you mentioned the refrigerated E van really what are manufacturers thinking about selling ice creams from the drive way Ha🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
It doesn't matter if it's £1000 ,it only travels 100 miles tops ,it's as much use as an hand brake on a Canoo they will be giving them away soon 😅
Exactly, whatever tool you need has to serve it's purpose, anything
that doesn't is useless, no matter how much it cost.
Even then no one sane would take them. No tradesmen want a work van with that pathetic range.
An EV pulling a caravan roughly halves it’s range. So a fully loaded EV van is going to be worse than that
@@liberty0758 No chance of a heat up on a cold day at lunch time and a read of the paper then.
Top man, you do make me laugh. The sad part is you are so true with your analysis, keep it up man ,happy Christmas 😅
My extended Chevy Express van has a 30 gallon gas tank. I get about 500 miles per tank. I top it off once a week and it normally takes about 10 minutes. Now how often do you need to charge up your EV and how many miles do you get and how many hours does it take to charge it?
GREAT VIDEO.!! I have been waiting for a video about electric vans and depreciation. So where are they stock piling these vans that are not selling and what are they going to do with the ones don't sell at all?!?!?! I am a subscriber.
Perhaps the Maxis refrigerated van has a diesel compressor for the fridge 😂😂😂
I love a good mentalist. Keep up the good work....
What a shame. Perhaps inflation figures will come down as a result? Nah!
I used to do deliveries in a van I went from Birmingham to London. to complete everything took 12 hours that's with no breaks and driving flatout there and back. No EV van could do this and whats more is the drivers will be pushed to make up the charging time because it doesn't matter to the company you work for if you get done for speeding as there are plenty more to take their place
I was looking at a new diesel proace a couple of weeks ago.
They gave me an electric van for the test drive.
I put on the heating full power and drove it as heavily as i could on the throttle and it used about 20% of the charge in 8 miles.
😆 i'd have walked back to my vehicle, climbed in and driven away. 🤙 me when you've got a diesel i can try out, i'll let you know where i am so you can drop it off to me.
Talking to an electrician who has to drive an ID Buzz commercial, it’s nearly maxed out weight wise and he said it’s 150 miles max in the summer,120/130 in winter with no radio,heater etc. He said it’s lovely to drive but crap as a commercial vehicle.
from autotrader " Cutting the petrol station from your routine is one of the biggest changes you’ll face when you go electric. "........
and replacing them with chargers for literally 10x as long. womp womp womp, suckers be suckered to oblivion.
Minutes at a petrol station is so little time you don't even remember it. Fuggin tools for even trying that as an argument 🤣
Your posts do make me laugh..
Thank you for the entertainment..
If they were giving them away free, they'd still be too expensive 😂
A McDonalds near me has 4 charging points and they are used on occasion, right next to the McD's is a car park also with 4 charge points (all are instavolt) and they are used rarely too. That tells me something. I also wonder come next April with the government charge any cay companies the fine for not selling cars to people who don't want them?
I think they are like Clubcard prices, where the original price is an inflated rip off and the discount price is still inflated.
Glad I will never need to buy a van of any sort. How do British gas and companies who rely on vans for deliveries etc, make any money? Great videos, just subscribed keep up the good work because it's important we know the truth.
As a courier i just can't see how i would ever make a living as a same day courier the hole thing just don't make sense to me madness
Enjoyed this so much I watched it twice, lol! 😂👍👏
If you watched it twice did you see at the start, the bit where he is totally confusing range with mileage?
And nobody has noticed!
😂
Faster depreciation than Diane Abbott falling off Beachy Head
😂
Horrible inconsiderate racist thing to say
@ - 😂😂😂😂
@@SB-hr5yr - ooooh! That’s a scary word. Racist! 😂😂 RACIST =
Rather Annoying Communist Inspired Silencing Technique
Happy Christmas Tony from us in Cornwell have good 2025 too
Love this channel. Love you Greg! Stick us a bacon roll on son 😂
Brilliant video, well done for exposing this 😊
I love your general common sense, logic and research in real world situations. No way are EV’s even worth the discounted prices
My electric van spends 18 hrs a week on charge
I love it 😂😂😂😂
the complete truth 100 percent true . and very funny and entertaining as well lol . thanks for the offer but i will keep my 1990s transit with the Banana bomb proof engine go forever and can fix it with with a spanner a screwdriver and a hammer if by chance anything does go wrong . great vid thanks
Vauxhall released a hydrogen van a few weeks ago. Now that had a sensible range.
The range of the original milk float we all grew up with was 60-80 miles fully loaded and charged on lead acid batteries, how have we progressed?
All I need is a compass in this bloody fog, I'll have that one.
Nice one Dustin Hoffman.. !!
love my 2020 Transit I wouldn't do a straight swap for a brand new milk float van no way.
You won't like it when the wet belt goes and takes the engine with it.
So in winter, you couldn't move house more than 20 miles away. Two trips and you're done. And not if it's hilly.
What are the hire companies going to rent out?
That van lasted 365000 miles on the same engine and still passed the emmisions test at its last MOT. The Gearbox went.
I can just imagine the people who paid full price for their electric white elephant are absolutely delighted to see the same model being sold for half of what they paid.
Amazon driver told me his van does 70 miles to flat…and said it’s a slug to drive…awesome eh🤣