Stages of the New Plan for Mars Exploration
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- Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024
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In this video, you will learn:
Why is it so hard to travel to Mars from Earth?
Why have we already traveled to the Moon but not yet to Mars?
How and when is it planned to travel to Mars?
How We Are Going to Conquer Mars.
RYV Team:
Voice Over: Kent Bleazard
A new propulsion system needs to be studied getting to Mars . Nuclear propulsion rocket I read could get you to Mars in 45 days. Why isn't this being studed more to make it so.
Too dangerous honestly, you would need a nuclear reactor on a small rocket that needs to be managed by experts 24/7 with expensive and heavy and dangerous cargo which can easily kill everybody on board. not to mention if anything goes wrong theres almost a 100% chance people onboard wil die
I wish I would be alive to see this
I hope they can come back alive
If thats you on your profile picture, odds are you will. Best estimates is that we will have people on mars from 2030-2036 and massive civilizations from 2040-2050
@@VrXl17 looking at what is involved and creeping the decline of civilization I don't think there will be any humans on Mars this century.
@@VrXl17 How does that make money for Lindsay Graham and Chuck Schumer?
@@lu-uf8zj If it doesn't facilitate money-laundering or capture votes, Congress is never going to approve it. The U.S. annual budget dwarfs the total LIFETIME resources of the top 10 wealthiest private individuals on earth.
The Artemis programme reads a lot like NASA’s 90-day report, which costs a ton of money to build, launch and deliver a bunch of infrastructure which doesn’t get humans to anywhere new. Robert Zubrin’s Mars Semi-Direct plan has much to commend it: less expensive, a shorter time frame and more science gets done.
Do send a link for Zubrin's report. Thanks
@@lukulamagnus5198 I've noticed that when you post a link in a comment the comment is immediately deleted by RUclips.
@@lukulamagnus5198 Theres a good book called Mars Direct that he wrote about it! :)
Elon Musk said he was going to send a bunch of his robots to Mars to set everything up.
Mucks is moronic.
He also said humans will travel to Mars 2026 a couple of years ago. He talks the talk but can't walk the walk. Let's be honest. Humans will never go to Mars.
@@ThaiSteffe if you genuinely think that you are not very smart
@@VrXl17 Sure buddie. Whatever floats your boat.
@@ThaiSteffe tell me why you would ever think something like that. Sure Elon musk is a bit enthusiastic but as it was said in the video, we already HAVE the technology to get to mars. It’s surviving that’s the problem. Considering we know how to get oxygen and food, it’s mostly a problem of long term survival and how to get there before our bones decay from not being used. Fuel is also a problem but that can be solved by having rockets that wait along the path to mars. Then there’s the starship passing tests and inspections which it probably will by 2026. Once we solve those issues we go to mars
*Only one thing to be kept in mind.... there is a need of collaboration over competition*
No, there isn't !!
@@Adeynan not necessarily. Back in the Space Race competition was what motivated the USA and the Soviet Union to achieve such great feats in space exploration.
@@EugeneDingleBerryFan And then after the series of Moon landings, Tricky Dick Nixon shut it all down, because he needed the money to spend on chronic wars in Vietnam, Laos, and Cambodia. Defense industry billionaires came first, the American people, and progress came last. And every president since embellishes the wealthy with our tax dollars with phony excuse to launch a war, and/or build military bases all over the planet instead of space research.
Collaboration? Really like the worthless Kum-by-ya International 120 Billion Dollar waste of time and money ISS?
Get to the Moon and Occupy Mars. Use Zubrin's Case for Mars, modified. Robots first. Build the Base. Send the Humans to finish up ... no 48-hour horseshit missions. Go for 2.1 year missions.
Starship and its upgrades will make it happen.
Competition drives society!
What about sending automatic humanoid robots to mars to do agriculture food for the mission.
Great
Fat chance anything will grow on Mars. Too cold, too dry, surface bombarded with ionizing radiation, Cosmic rays, UV rays, and soil is too toxic with perchlorate's. Matt Damon's poop potatoes would not grow in Martian soil. Better idea: stop destroying our own soil here on Earth, and stop the huge wild animal life decline on Earth that now stands at just 39% of what it was in 1970. Life on Earth is dying! What use is Mars if Earth can barely support humans, and for how much longer for our huge population of 8+ billion.
Good idea, you have to eat 🍽
they probably will but they might not because we dont actually have humaniod robots that are actually good at producing food and not to mention the energy consumption
If I can already get all the heroine, cocaine and prostitutes I want, why would I have any interest in space?
By the time they get to mars , we probably done had 30 president changes 😂😂
Well, before we get to first land on Mars, we should at least first get men to the moon!.... whoops! just kidding!😂
Never went to moon
Based 💯🎯👍
How are we going to enable us travelling to Mars? Well, definitely not in one of these tincans, which NASA still proposes with Orion. And also not with chemical rocket propulsion, like Starship is designed with.
Its a silly idea, to call Orion a deep space vessel. Imagine four people in an SUV, where no one can even exit for to piss. For several weeks! Or longer; and at any time there can be a solar radiation warning. A spaceship needs completely different design choices from a launch-/landing-pod.
Starship is the first spaceship attempt in human history. To become a spaceship, it will need more propulsion than chemical rocket engines can achieve. We can't send people on a 8 month long journey through weightlesness, and expect them to crawl out onto the Mars surface.
L👀k at ISS astronauts, as they can not leave the landing pod on their own, after 6 months of weightlessness. We can't send people to Mars without artificial gravity.
Considering the involved distences, the best artificial gravity is constant thrust, throughout the entire transfer. That can't be done with chemical thrust; this is only good for launch and for landing. Ion-thrusters could suit our needs, but they are not very strong. - With solar array current. With higher electrical power, we can get much stronger Ion-thrusters. Like 20k Volts and more. Batteries wont do; we'll need a generator on board.
Life support is also about the size of ISS. If we use a nuclear reactor, will we need to convert to Ion-thrust? Better direct into nuclear propulsion. Both Ion-thrust and nuke motor can never land on Earth. Nor can they directly launch from Earth. We really need to distinguish the concept of a spaceship from the concept of launch & landing pods.
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can't they use centrifugal force instead of thrust to simulate gravity?
@@lu-uf8zj yeah but its hard to do any not very accurate
why exactly do you need thrust? once something is spinning in space it wont stop. you dont need to be spinning that fast only about 15rpm for earths gravity
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Sounds like a real human comment. No bot.
Look no matter how many people want to go to Mars, we can terraform it all we like, but we will never be able to give it a magnetic field and deadly radiation will always be an issue. That's the biggest issue that needs to be overcome before literally anything else.
Finally somebody States the obvious
Ok the trip to Mars first humans would be sick in various ways. With out gravity, space brakes, radiation shielding, a way to land without crashing,then . Maybe in about 200 years from now when we invent artificial gravity another only work on the ship not on the planet.
We just barely can get folks to Earth's orbit and back. And they kinda crash in the ocean.mars has no ocean. Etc. now sending AI robots are feasible, it'll be decades before humans will be staying on the moon for a couple weeks and they might not be healthy enough to do much.
The Earth's magnetic field is created by its iron core. Considering you have an asteroid field Between Mars and Jupiter would it not be possible to create an external magnetic field using a number of iron asteroids placed in orbit around Mars. Obviously you would Need to place a nuclear reactor on more to create electricity. Am I correct that electricity plus iron = magnetic field
I AGREE!!!
This opened up by mentioning Elon musk’s plans and I laughed so hard, I spit my coffee
The first problem is developing a magnetic field shield which is going to need a combination of new magnetic materials and a huge amount of electrical power to work, this could protect the spacecraft as it makes the journey to Mars from solar radiation. Secondly you need another on Mars to make a base, and possibly a third massive one at a station at the Lagrange point to possibly shield Mars in the future. Alot of power and physics and technology we don't have yet.
I like the video, but there are two MASSIVE, BASIC, AND FUNDAMENTAL PROBLEMS that appear to have been overlooked, and have also not been addressed or even mentioned in this video: -
1) How the LACK of EARTH-LIKE GRAVITY will have SERIOUS DETRIMENTAL effects on the crew!
2) The amount of Radiation protection NEEDED for such a long journey in space and for the time living on Mars.
So first, let's tackle the gravity problem:-
At best, with the current rocket technology available to us, the shortest length of time it will take to journey to Mars is six months, only achievable when its elliptical orbit around the Sun is at its closest to the Earth. This happens roughly every two years. Otherwise, launching outside these close orbit dates would entail a nine / ten month travel time to the Red Planet. Then, once the crew have landed, they'll have to spend at least 18 months on the Martian surface waiting for the next close Earth orbit to come around again before they can leave. Obviously, the journey home will take another six months, so by the end of this whole endeavour, they'll have spent 12 months in zero gravity (the six months journeys there and back) and 18 months on a planet with a third of the gravity of Earth, in total, experiencing 30 months of no Earth gravity.
Even if they exercised four hours every day, after such a prolonged experience of no Earth gravity, they'll still end up suffering with some form of muscle atrophy and deterioration of the skeleton, slowing of their cardiovascular system functions, decreased production of red blood cells, balance disorders, eyesight disorders, changes in their immune systems, loss of body mass, and increased nasal congestion. Again, all because of such prolonged exposure to a lack of Earth gravity. And, assuming they survive the homeward bound journey after being so compromised, they'd probably have to wear an Exoskeleton for at least 18 months, just to help them get around and recover some of what they've lost.
The "Hard-Science" 2021Science-Fiction film, Stowaway, shows how such a journey to Mars should be done. That is, utilising a central unit / rocket pushing through space with the crewed ship - I'm assuming here that in reality, they would use the Space X vehicle called Star Ship because it has the necessary space/volume - tethered to one end of a spinning / rotating 250m long truss - spinning at 4x a minute to generate and simulate the necessary earth-like gravity needed - and a counter balance tethered to the other end. If Star Ship copied this idea, then the counter balance and / or the central unit could both carry the extra fuel needed to make a controlled decent onto the Martian surface. The Star Ship would then re-attach back to the tether for the journey home, giving the crew much needed earth-like gravity to reacclimatise their bodies after 18 months of 33% gravity on Mars, so that by the time they come home to Mother Earth, they should be fit enough to re-engage with our gravity again.
And now the deep space travel radiation and radiation FROM living on Mars problems.
The hull of any spaceships travelling for so long in space, and the hulls of any Mars Habitats and Mars Exploration vehicles, would need to have at least 15 inches of lead lining to stop the Gamma radiation from penetrating the ship/habitat/vehicle and killing the crew!!... no where is this basic fact mentioned in the video.
just used dry ice for fule, and you can get there.
18:13 the AI always scare me with his bizzarre imperfections....
Men on Mars will be the biggest reality TV show ever.
That's what the now defunct "MarsOne" thought.
There's not a hope in hell that there will be humans on Mars by 2039. It will be long past that. Space travel timetables are always way too optimistic and very much dependent on how much money you want to throw at the project.
We’re to busy trying to kill each other on this planet. We have no busy continuing that shit on Mars.
Agreed , I wouldn’t be surprised if 2050 comes along and they are still working on it.
I’m in my 60’s I don’t think I’ll see it happen, at least I got to see man walk on the moon 😂😂😂.
Just thinking further about it , maybe the Chinese might surprise us, they are pretty full on doing stuff on the dark side of the moon and seem very motivated.
As always , money and motivation are big things if you want to get things done.
Especially when we still can't leave lower earth orbit all that moon landing bullshit was lies and Mars footage is just Devon Island footage here on earth same with the moon It's just footage of somewhere on earth
Agree
@@dereks1264 We can't even leave lower earth orbit Nasa put there foot in there mouth back in 2016 just Google it can we leave Lower Earth Orbit it will say no in otherwords we never went to the Moon
No doubt, immensely complex and extremely difficult but can be done with a well thought out plain; to get you there and back in one piece.
Any way I look at it, it seems that the most important thing is to have an amazingly strong and safe, reliable engine that can work anywhere and anytime. What is built around this engine seems almost incidental, but of course it is not.
I been to mars a dozen times already.
Next time you're there, bring me back some of those those delish candy bars!
Absolutely brilliant video, great visuals & also narrating . I hope I’m alive to see this happen. ❤
Firstly humans should value life on planet earth
If you value Earth so much you should set up mining and manufacturing in space well away from Earth. If we would work cooperatively on that. Earth would be lush and green like you wouldn't believe. It's not going to happen. We are too much of a predatory warrior species. We'll squabble over limited resources until we nuke ourselves off of the face of the planet.
Mars was once a planet like earth
Here we go again
Yes! I will believe it when the USA stops wasting our money on the military industrial complex, and foreign aid that benefits mostly Wall Street, and spend it on all the American people.
Earth would benefit from a mars mission. There are enough ppl to do both
I love the confidence of the AI speech. Traveling in Boeing Starliner, that will be exciting. But no problems for an AI persona 😆
This was very interesting, thank you, but also it's Saturn Five not Saturn V.
What's the difference? 5 is 5. Maybe I'm slow...
@@Bigboodeeluvva He was saying "Saturn Vee"
Yeah..but if they put a Station halfway along and stocked it routinely..this would make things far easier.
use the mars 2 moons to make a depot and send a ship back and forth from earths orbit to mars and back again.. ( if its not going to land on mars it can be as big as you like ) and if it was given nuclear engins ..it would be even better..( you can use smaller ships to go down to the mars surface and back ) and earth surface to the ship could be passenger dragons..and return..
That was a brilliant video. Thank you, I've just subscribed.
Don’t
Something i dont understand is how come the Apollo missions were all performed months apart, yet the Artemis missions have 2-3 year gaps?
I suspect that Apollo was primarily a military program disguised as a civilian program while today’s programs are civilian programs with military spinoffs.
Similar to the images on my lunch box…when I was 8 in 1965. Still waiting.
Many errors: here's just one. Mars & Venus are not necessarily in opposite directions.
A self sufficient colony on Antartica hasn't happened.
No one wants to live there.
Mars would be 1,000,000 times more difficult.
Unexpectedly interesting😊👍
If we go by the newest happening we will be on Mars by 2100 and that is just to start putting the first stage of the Mars exploration in to a possible reality.
2026 is getting close. The only way that could happen is if Mars exploration was vital to human survival in the close future. Plus their is a Short cut window that Mars and Earth are closest and is optimum to lessen the amount of radiation the humans get.
This is happening sooner than we think
This is a nice one for Thunderf00t
It’s a barren planet with no atmosphere. Why would you want to visit?
I also think the same but I think everything needs to discovered. There's an idea that if you skip your primary school you can't understand high school. Moreover, I am amazed by thinking that if Mars is too long to reach then how the Space Organisations planning for Wormholes, Blackholes, and other galaxies 😂
Great video! I appreciate RUclipsrs who do their research and only discuss approaches that are credible.
This "plan' is so absurdly complicated as to guarantee failure and/or cancelation. As the technology advances actual Mars exploration and colonization will be greatly simplified. Of note is that this piece almost totally ignores the Space X current intention to have several uncrewed Starships (presumably carrying supplies for later crewed missions). leaving for Mars in two years with crewed flight intended for 2 or 4 years after that. Nuclear rockets currently under development eventually should greatly reduce transit times.
Nasa's yearly budget is TINY. About 4% of the U.S. military budget. If that was flipped for 3 years, we would have cities on Mars in no time.
I don't understand why they need to abandon the ISS then send it to burn up in the Earth's atmosphere when very least it could stay temporarily for use as a dock for a construction crew for a new docking platform with crew quarters, provisions storage, refueling & when the old ISS is no longer needed & must be removed then it could be stripped of useful items like solar panels, shielded capsules, liquid recyclers, tanks, etc. then burn the useless stuff. To me this seems like good business sense & a crew quarters/operations center as a bonus item that needs not to be brought. 🤔 Stop wasting our tax dollars & stop with your endless inefficiencies.😡
Exactly! You don't understand
I get what you are saying. There are some useful components that built the ISS. The thing is that some of the things that you listed could be damaged. While I do agree with you that some of the things can be salvaged and used for other purposes, trying to bring all that back to earth is a challenge and leaving the materials in space to reuse them later would only add to the space junk still up there. Can you tell me what you would do to reuse the panels and tanks, @OathTaker3?
Don’t mess the moon up or the relationship between the moon and earth
politics is the main reason why we are not there on mars Elon Musk is our last hope no politics.
Nah
¡¡¡WITH ISS TO MARS, UOUU!!!
Mars will be there when humans are up to going. Meantime relax, and enjoy the StarShip developments!
It's like crossing the pacific ocean on a rowboat. Why not just wait we get advanced enough technology to make it easy. What's the rush?
Couldn’t you send the ISS to orbit the moon?
They go need a starship with a farm to stand a chance there’s no way they go stock 6months of food and make it. After they get to mars they go need. Foods too it’s too risky and not worth the hassle
There has to be a fleet of supply ships of all the things required to set up a viable colony.
They can't even get down to the titanic yet let's alone get you to Mars and the battery won't last 😂😂
Phobos is a much safer station. Can tunnel in for protection. Has some gravity.
This doesn't take into account that space x starship can take many of those problems away
conquer ! cracks me up !
If Musk wants people on Mars, then he should already be sending multiple layers of support material onto Mars, to stay there till the persons sent there can arrive, and KNOW they have years of supplies and equipment available already, in case return flights may not be possible until later, maybe some years later. Drilling equipment to seek ground water sources should also be an imperative part of that, and not just one rig, but several.
Confidentially declared or confidently declared?
My fiirst experience of Mars was thru the paintings of Chesly Bonestel in a book by Von Braun, in the early 1960's. Humanity would be on Mars by the 2000's. Optomistic? That's Okay. I would say lets be pessimistcally real. 2060 is a bit tough. 2080 could do it. IF there is no major war, financial melt-down, plague, societal collapse. IF.
I think the ISS is the natural first stage, we need a few more ISS in between with resources like fuel and enegy for precautionary reasons.
Mars has lots of water. Unfortunately it is very deep and not easy to get out of the ground.
If we have a moon base we can build a magnetic launch rail to accelerate unlimited payloads to mars (food, fuel, supplies of all sorts). Send robots ahead to build a city underground. Badabing Mars colony.
siendo realistas, no menos de 100 años para empezar a tener todo lo necesario para dicha aventura. velocidad, energia y víveres redundantes para hacer el viaje seguro. Se puede empezar mañana si se quiere.
After a day in outer space, a person begins to experience terrible headaches😐
A person cannot exist without gravity, therefore, the International Space Station is in a certain orbit and this is the main problem of all flights anywhere in space.
Going to Mars is not ,,instant coffee,, it takes some planning 😉
Everyday week travelling to Mars to build the colony, opps underground
a mistake at 3:00 it should be ''on the Moon''
a mistake at 3:00 it should be ''on the Moon''
a mistake at 3:00 it should be ''on the Moon''
So many flaws in the dialogue of this video. I mean we already use nuclear fuel for power on the mars explorers. So saying that the technology would be 'developed' during Artemis 14 through 20 missions is utter bollox
The first group of human to Mars should be politicians .. they will survive the first mission 😁
Dream on...this will take at least another 30 years or more.
❤!!! !!! !!!
We can make the trip and even establish a settlement. But we won’t unless there is a financial incentive. The first person will go, because of the fame. But they will return to Earth to enjoy the fame. After that, it will only be robotic missions. Antarctica is easier to reach and easier to survive on, but people don’t live there permanently either. BUT, if we find something of immense value/profit, then we will go in droves
Когда сделают гравитацию в ракете как дома это будет хорошо👍
I wonder if NASA will get funding for that long.
Well done! How did you source all those fascinating animations? Care to reveal some of your trade secrets? (sub'd)
Are able to bring back stranded astronaut from space🌌, do it first.
Big investment of your this technology advancement please sir please
Saturn "Vee"... lol
The core could be heated back up by a AI Robotic boring machines with a nuclear core that could purposely set to melt down at the correct position and depths. To reheat the core. More than one would be needed at different locations. Don't forget about the isotopes they already found on the surface. so those will always be there anyway.
18:45 "...and the plans for its conolization..." I guess the narrator meant "colonization. :-)
The race to a base is on China is working very hard to be the first to establish a moon base. This is the real reason for Artimas
Why/how would people need/want to sit while on a ship in space?…
As Musk has said, it all hinges on rapid reusability of starship. They are attempting their first booster catch very soon. Cross your fingers🤞
Why? Because we're not trying.
NASA Budget: $27.2 billion
Space exploration, science missions, technology development.
Satellite Launch/Maintenance: Includes NASA, NOAA, military, and private sectors; hard to isolate, but NASA alone spends ~$2 billion/year on Earth science missions.
Black Budget: Estimated $50-60 billion for classified military/intelligence operations, including satellite programs.
U.S. Military Budget: $800+ billion, part of which funds the U.S. Space Force and satellite defense.
Total U.S. Government Spending: Approximately $6 trillion.
Any time a project is proposed that Senators and Representatives can't launder money through, they use ridicule about "little green men" to gaslight the public.
Elon should build a large population of AI imbued robots to build the colony on mars. Sending them five to ten years a head of humans to build the initial infrastructure. She must have a base of operations on the moon and an orbital satellite for emergency purposes excetra.
The station and the moon base could be excellent staging platforms. Anyway, just my 2 cents.
To speed up the exploration of space build a space elevator in the moon, will open the gates for space mining by processing raw mineral materials from an asteroids on the surface of moon. Peace
3:57 can I use my bicycle 😎?
So the game Mass Effect is probably spot on with space travel even being possible to other planets set in 2183! Because everything in this video just sounds fictional. Sounds awesome but I probably won't be alive to see it cause I'm in my 30's now😔😔😔😔!
These mars missions will only serve expend huge amounts of earth resources with no lasting benefit.
We should be spending that money to save the planet. They are wasting billions and billions.
3:37 "It would comfortably take you about half an hour" - !?... To walk 1 kilometre and back?
That's moving at 4 kph, most city folk walk at roughly twice that speed, the speed walkers can maintain 10 or 12, depending on individual stride length.
Even if you used 10 whole minutes selecting and paying for your items, it shouldn't be more than 20 minutes used.
I would say it is 12 to 15 minutes and 20 if there is a lineup at the checkout, it isn't "comfortable" but lazy to waste a full 30 minutes in visiting a store that is 1 kilometre away.
With going to the Moon first and using it as a test bed we will not get to Mars. I do not believe their will be structures as shown on Mars. Mars has no Magnetic shield to protect it from CME and other Solar events. So the structures need to be underground or buried for long term stays. On the trip out and all of the trip to be honest crops will need to be grown to supplement food. The other problem is one I saw on another program. The COMPLETE lack of privacy, not so much your crew mates, but cameras all over the place so that Mission Control can monitor every little thing. Imagine constantly being monitored and evaluated for 3 years.
Please try to develop human living on earth with these mega funds.
Some people like challenges
Money spent on military lemons that either disappoint or never get used F22-F35 not to mention destroyers and aircraft carrier fleets that are obsolete, could instead pay for space exploration many times over
We could probably make an artificial magnetic field that only protect the area where our bases are on Mars. Start small. And the ship needs to be built and launch from the Moon.
Yet we’re most likely a thousand years out from building The US Enterprise. There is a way to create artificial gravity, without the object spinning in circles. We’re just too primitive at this time.
I dont get the obsession with this planet...it has nothing to offer to us...better focus on solving the problems on Earth!
Civilian nukes detonated below the lunar surface can produce Oxygen and metals . Yes the space treaty allows for Civilian nukes for development of space resources
I think that Elon is extremely inaccurate about the time frame
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Using the Space shuttle in a video on Mars exploration is sad. And then to call the Apollo rocket a "Saturn V" mispronounced "vee?" C'mon. Was a human involved in making this?
Use the moon as a staging post, but I do some thinking 🤔 and it's a big jump from electric cars to space colonists are they hiding something 😮