I went to an "untraditional school". We still had to learn history, math, science ect. They just encouraged us to study what we're interested in within those guidelines. It actually worked out really well and the kids who graduated actually cared about (and had) a well rounded education. Kids definitely still need structure, discipline and to learn to handle being told no. But maybe our public school system could use a bit more balance between just learning to be good test takers and nurturing a child's interests.
if they are allowed to do what they want without being they will not be able to live in the real world. unschooling does not work for real-world skills because they do not learn how to handle discipline
Modern society is bs imo, but yeah kids still need to be taught how to cope with the reality they live in while also understanding that a lot of it is bs. We need society and sadly can’t live without it. I would happily go live off grid in the woods if it weren’t so lonely. I’m basically a wild animal already lol so I would fit in.
@@LexlutherVII well you don't need to know to know who Christopher Columbus was or not even anything related to story , chemistry or fancy maths but at the very least you learn how to use basic math , have some discipline , work in groups and work alone when necessary. If you want to be a doctor , a lawyer or an engineer you have no option but to attend school and then college but if you're fine with a minimum wage job then school was never meant for you
As an 18 year old that was "Unschooled" his whole life, I can safely say that this an extremely unethical way to raise children. Now days I struggle with learning disabilities and I'm slow to process information. Along with that, trying to socialize is extremely stressful for me even among friends and family, thus it is very hard for me to form connections properly. I beg any parent that sees this not to do this to your kids, don't let them end up as fucked up as me.
There is still a way for you to learn English skills first. Reading and writing, you would have to start with baby books just like any other illiterate adult. There are videos these days for children to teach them how to read, write, spell and various other things.
Your writing skills are pretty good from this post, actually. I left school at 15 and eventually found salvation at a community college, then university. If you are as honest with others as you appear to be here, I think quality people will find their way into your life.
I felt like my parents were strict when I was a kid and hated the rules and other students bugged me, but now I’m grateful for all of it. I learned social skills, learned to follow the rules, how to manage my time and keep track of my responsibilities. Im grateful they decided to not go with this parenting method-I don’t even think this was a thing when I was a kid, or at least not as mainstream…I have goals and plans and I wouldn’t have been able to take steps toward and do had I been “unschooled”. I think it’s too extreme
My parents did the same thing so I wouldn’t leave them. I did. I struggle. I learn. It is so hard though. I know I’m behind for my age, but I just remind myself I am ahead of others in the same situation as well. Trying to appear normal to others is so tiring.
PoOh- I was hoping she’d make the whole family look dumber than they did. She should have set the whole bunch up. Take them shopping, give them a bunch of change, and tell them to figure it out. Or have one read a story out loud. Lmao
Cassidy Bell - Well, the parents might finally figure that out when the "kids" are still living at home with them 50 years from now because they had no clue how to get or keep a job and support themselves.
I'm conflicted about this on one hand they could learn alot of day to day life skills like cooking but on the other I could see how it could get out of hand really quickly. But on a side note I dont remember 90% of what I learned in school and I dont think our kids learn actual life skills in school. I learned so much more relevant info from Google than school. Now I will never let my kids be free range because I know what it's like when they are out of control but I do think our current school system has flaws.
I’m homeschooled, and this is embarrassing. All the mom is doing when asked about her kids future is deflecting. These kids genuinely won’t be able to function in society.
Caring for your kids doesn't necessarily all mean to make and keep them happy, you need to make sure they can function in this world or they won't be able to support themselves. This is downgrowding to society to watch. How are they going to get jobs if they dont understand basic math?
I was homeschooled and we got to explore a lot of our interests. We spent a lot of time working on our own projects. But that was not the core of our education, not by far. We had to do a lot of structured academic work. My mom's approach was unconventional, but critical thinking skills and typical academic standards were at the heart of it. She wanted us to want to learn, and to know how to govern our own intellectual journeys towards whatever successes we desired. My heart breaks when I see families like this who intentionally rob their children of education in any form. Because that's what she's doing. They will not be equipped to make anything out of their "interests" without first catching up on fundamentals they would have been better off learning as kids.
State Slave In real life? As a human adult? It’s the same rules for everyone. There are punishments for breaking rules. Laws can be “rewritten or redefined” but they’re still laws.
Swordbird98 Wrong. Bring Johnnie Cochran back from the dead, and you can get away with murder. The law is very unevenly applied. Rules are for the middle class. The poor break the rules; the wealthy find "loopholes."
Swordbird98 right on! I definitely am not happy with the public schooling. I believe in homeschooling so you can focus on your child's intrerest and strengths but u are absolutely right. Life has rules and boundaries that if you do not teach your kids they will more then likely fail as adults. In curious to see what these kids are doing 10 years from now
My husband is a public high school teacher and he frequently has to teach students things they’ve not previously learnt for various reasons. One of the hardest things teachers have to overcome is trying to teach children who come from homes where rules are not enforced and where the parents fail to engage in their children’s education. It’s so very frustrating for him because he works long hours-evenings and weekends grading papers and writing lesson plans, but if a kid’s family doesn’t place a priority on education, then it makes his job harder. Of course, everyone blames the instructors instead of the homes lives of some of these kids.
I’m a teacher and I can tell you this is a form of neglect. There’s a thing called educational neglect and it’s where the parents neglect the educational needs of the child. So kids can actually get taken away from parents who do “unschooling”
Um ya so, no your wrong. The law says that if your homeschooling and your child fills requirements up to 2 grades lower that them your fine . I javelin been unschooling for years and it's simply learning through life instead of having a practical 9-5 job starting when your six . Unschoolers are always put down for not teaching when really we have taught our kids ever since they were born . If you don't you to go to school to learn to speak and walk then why would you need to go for math and history
@@channing_alise Because sometimes things in life are ALOT more complicated than walking. Does that unschooled kid want to be a pilot? He better learn ADVANCED math...Or no pilot.
They're actually a super sweet family. The kids have calmed down a lot. I saw their blueberry picking video, and when they questioned if they could pick one blueberry from the farmed area, they were all like "nooo!" I do like school and having a formal form of education, but I also love the idea of kids having more time to pursue and just be kids. Kid's have it a little more stressful now then they use to. My cousin has like three classes in addition to school. Swimming, martial arts and piano. One has like four, with the addition of figure skating. I
When the mother is questioned, she turns the question back on the questioner. This video was published in 2010. Shame there isn't a follow-up video showing what became of the kids.
You can easily find that for yourself. Her eldest son is a self taught blacksmith and clothes maker. Her eldest daughter is a model. Her other 2 are too young yet. They're all over social media so no need to do a follow up video.
And, I recently found out her eldest wanted a highschool diploma and took a test to receive it and passed it with flying colors. All with no formal instruction. I'm currently unschooling my children.
if anyone is interested in an update: Devin is married and owns a house, one of the daughters works at a restaurant, and the other daughter lives at home with her boyfriend. The parents are divorced and the mom has gotten remarried. She still believes in unschooling
Yeah. A lot of these "hands off" parenting tactics are really just an excuse to be lazy and neglect your children, or intentionally ruin their lives while pretending to be a caring person because the parents want them to be losers just like them.
@@universalsubliminals1174 No. Parents who experience that may homeschool their kid the normal way then. They'd still want their kid to have an education and actually feel loved and taken care of. This woman genuinely doesn't care. There is no amount of trauma one can have to intentionally ruin their children's lives in a way that's obvious to any person with basic common sense, even low common sense. There's no way she doesn't know what she's doing. Even an extremely dumb, clueless, or traumatized parent can understand the issue with this. She's a bad person, and people who insist that abusive or neglectful parents have good intentions are unintentionally enabling these parents, which in turn causes even more kids to be abused or neglected, because it makes people feel inclined to sympathise and even enable the parent instead of rightfully holding them accountable. Please stop spreading the notion that neglectful parents are well meaning, because 99% of the time, this is what they want you to think. They are successfully manipulating you.
Was high school the most miserable time of my life? Yes. But as an adult, am I glad I got a high school diploma and went to college? ABSOLUTELY thinking of these kids in the real world shakes me to my core oml
ohh please.. positive impacts LOL You are as clueless as the person i was talking to .. iam glad she not zombifying her kids to be tax slaves..good for her
@@TheDman216 So you think anyone can get through life without education? That's pretty pathetic. If you want to get anywhere in life you need to know things like math. We use math everyday without even realizing it. How are these kids going to get a decent job with no education or discipline? They won't unless they get really lucky. The only job they might be able to get is being a waitress or a chef, and that's about it.
@@cats101lover yes this is very true but some of the math that they use now is dumb and the way they put it is difficult i think there are certain jobs for certain types of math strategies and subjects
@@jalisaalanaye1662 I'm not begging for likes, they don't matter that much. However, the more likes I get the more likely a follow up video is going to come up, which is my main objective. Instead of being a sad, triggered person, why don't you take a course on how to improve your grammar. ☮️
The people who will encounter these kids as adults will be the ones who are screwed. It would serve their stupid parents right if these kids never leave home.
as someone who grew up with this kind of BS parenting and is suffering for it, I just want people to know that if you do this crap, you are handicapping your kids for life. they will be behind all their peers and spend years of their life having to get extra schooling and help to try to fix the problem you caused. Doing this is intentionally causing harm to your child.
This is extremely true. I'm dealing with this right now. I did have former education before covid but my two little brothers did not. I could only imagine how its gonna be for them when they get older.. I'm trying to teach myself algebra‚ history‚ science‚ biology‚ ect. which is extremely hard if you have been through a similar situation. No thanks to my parent who sit on their phone all day or my other parent who is gone most of the day doing god knows what and are somehow still providing enough money to provide for us. If you cant set your child up for success when they grow up‚ don't have one. Plain. And. Simple. Im very sorry that you have experienced something similar.. nobody deserves this hell all because your parents are lazy.
It’s funny because I was public schooled and feel this way about them. They didn’t teach me anything but how to get by and stalled my time I could spend learning “learning” bullshit I’m gonna forget and can’t use in life. They killed my creatively and individuality. They ruined my life like man others just to Land them in a lifetime of debt and working the jobs the people on the top don’t want to work. Factory workers
That's what I said! When you are homeschooled or don't go to school, you can't socialize as well. Sure, you can make friends, but when these kids want jobs, they won't know how to deal with co-workers they don't like. They also might not learn crucial ELA skills due to the fact that their mother and father don't force them to learn anything that they don't want to. Also, they need to learn some basic math skills. If these kids don't know how to do certain things mathwise, then they definitely will not be successful. The one kid seems to be really good with cooking. How will they do their measurements and such if they don't know how to do basic math?
@ I couldn't tell, because mom mentioned them being able to read what they want. They may not be able to. That's sad. At least teach them to read and do basic math. That would give them a chance to learn from books
@Sophia Lane - LOL. Is better to meet with the exact same small group of people everyday for 13 years or have the freedom to meet new people from around the world everyday?
I agree with he fact that many of the things the school system teaches is unnecessary, especially in older grades, but I dont agree with this video. Most of the things children learn in elementary and middle school are very important in the real world, and the things they learn in high school are important if they want a career in that subject. My school follows a British education system, where at grade 9/year 10, students choose 5 subjects, along with english and math, they want to study in the next 2 years. And then at grade 11/year 12 we choose 3 subjects to study until we graduate. I like this because we still learn all the essentials, but we also have some choice in what we learn.
My school has similar electives like that too. We also have the choice in 11th and 12th grade to go to another trade school that focuses on what you want to do in college half the day. It's good preparation.
Sea Otter Productions -- That statement shocked me as well. Do those kids never have to take exams and meet government curriculum milestones? Where was this video done? In Canada you can homeschool your kids, but they have to take standardized tests at Grades 3, 6, 9 and 12 to make sure they are keeping up with their schooled peers. You can't just let your kids run wild and only study what they like - what kid would ever CHOOSE to do Math or Physics if they didn't have to?!! I just got the sense all the way through this video that the parents are just mega--lazy when it comes to educating their kids. They take a field trip to a weather station and don't learn a single thing. The mother just reads the cue cards that come with each display while the kids are running wild at the other end of the room. They learned absolutely nothing on that trip.
mike taylor Homeschooling can work too if you provide other ways for your kids to be around other kids, like a homeschooling group or church or other things.
Statistics have shown homeschooled children do better socially later on in life and in general. They never have to deal with the bullying that other children deal with. Same with peer pressure.
I never said anything against homeschooling. My whole point is school is a necessary thing. Math and social skills are both important, whether you're going to a school or homeschooled. None of which these kids are getting.
Social skills: Posing, lying, giving in to peer pressure, intimidation, etc. And people wonder why some families try to avoid forced interaction with the masses...
I’ve been homeschooled for six years of my school life I went to public school for five years and I was bullied because of my weight and how I didn’t learn as fast as the other kids it created pressure on myself and a Ed now I’m happy and I am able to skip a grade and graduate early all in all I’m much more happier and I socialize a lot better in fact I talk to people who are older than me and I also talk to adults much more better than kids my age
There are young girls in Africa and the Middle East who risk their lives on a daily basis to try to get some type of education. Some of these girls are murdered by their fathers for getting an education. This family just makes me sick, the way they discuss not needing an education. Not having to know world history, math... What kind of life are you getting your children ready for?? They probably can't even get a job at McDonald's since that can't do simple addition and subtraction. I feel bad for these kids...
Malala herself is fighting for girls education and children’s education and there’s these dumb people not bringing their kids to school that’s not good parents
Right! Even if kids are homeschooled, parents should at least teach them things like how to follow rules. If they get away with doing whatever they want at home, they may think it’s okay to do whatever they want anywhere else. Also, leaning new things is so much fun and important if we want to survive in this world.
Yep. People who don’t at least know basic numbers and how to understand and read a language end up nowhere. They can’t even get a job as a trash collector or a fast food chef. I thought not taking kids to school was illegal (unless the laws are different in some places). Anyhow, these kids are going to be living in their parents basement, probably doing absolutely nothing (because everything involves reading and numbers nowadays), or they’re gonna be homeless on the streets.
I kinda see where this so called "mother" is coming from. The way things are taught at school does need some improving, but that doesn't mean you need to abandon school as a whole! These kids will never learn how to socialise with anyone other than their siblings and parents and will probably end up on the street or at some crappy fast food chain. Also these parents will be left the hard task of explaining to their kids how babies are made. Good luck!
Carole M and those kids screaming near the baby bunnies and the pug?? Those pets must be traumatised. And that kid holding the baby bunny and the dog like that?. Honestly and the mum isn’t even punishing them for that
@Renn I beg to differ,these kids don't a chance in the real world.This is lazy parenting I can't even call this parenting,it's lazy at it's it's worst.These kids will never be able to function in the job world without education! And as far as random comments,I bet it's safe to say the majority have been or still are parents who have raised thier children in structure,rules,school,and have children who have started carreers of thier own.These are voices of experience.
@Renn no,not cynical NB just life experience.,a parent of 2 adult children.One of which served in the military and has started a carreer in the medical field which requires a education.Go back and re-read the comments from the kids who actually we're raised in that manner and stated that it left them at a dissavantage point n thier lives.
My child was very confident and happy prior to starting school. I see a change in her spirits now that she’s in kindergarten. She’s had a hard time interacting with kids who were not very nice, getting up early , etc. As much as it breaks my heart , i know she NEEDS this. My job is not to make things easier for her or indulge her. My job is to expose her to as many people and situations as possible and be right there to support her, teach her right from wrong and guide her so when she’s an adult she can handle it in her own. We added extra curricular activities to build confidence. You can’t just deprive your child of opportunities, of the ability to be a functioning adult. Even if they choose to be completely off grid someday, there are still chores and responsibilities, they will still have to deal with hard things in life. This is child neglect in my opinion.
You're a good parent. Plus, kids sometimes need a little time to adjust anyway. Your child will get used to getting up early eventually, and if you teach your kid how to avoid, ignore, or stand up towards bullies, that will be more beneficial than using it as an excuse to isolate your child from the world, because people will face bullies anywhere at any time of their lives anyway. Depriving kids of their social life and education just because you're too impatient to let them get used to it just seems very stupid, and even a little selfish, because I think most of these parents know deep down that letting them learn through experience while they're young will prepare them for the real world, but they care more about not feeling discomfort at the moment than they do about their kid facing it later on when the parent is no longer responsible for them. I had a hard time in first grade due to getting bullied by kids and having a mean teacher at the time, but I stayed, and I'm glad I did. If my mom pulled me out of school, I would've missed out on all the good things about school and wouldn't have made as many friends. School has some downsides, but there are upsides too, and a lot of people take that for granted.
I thought all you needed to be a parent was to produce offspring. A good parent feeds and clothes their child and provides shelter. A great one prepares them for life. Your definition and VoodooDolls here must be forcing them through grade school and preparing them for college debt.
1. Loss of social interaction, leading to loneliness and depression 2. Loss of basic knowledge on biology, history, economics 3. Loss of job recourses without even middle school completion
Jordan Tyler I got to school I’m in high school rn I have socially awkward and I have bad anxiety I can’t even talk to a teacher with out getting nervous and I’ve been going to school my whole life and do we rly need history and bio like my mom doesn’t remember rly anything (she’s only 32 she had me in high school) and jobs well getting jobs r hard no matter wat I’ve applied to market basket and Dunkin’ Donuts but still nothing has happen and plus If all fails atleast there is youtube
Khalilah Anderson I’ve gone to school my whole life (I’m in high school rn) I couldn’t stand in front of my class without having an anxiety attack ppl r going to be embarrassed no matter wat they do and bullying happens everywhere no matter if u go to school or not may not happen to u or everyone but it does happen to a lot for example I got bullied online and in person in 5th grade no one care no one noticed no one bother to ask or to talk about it
нεηтαι a growing child does, if the people you’re always around are just family their not experiencing other cultures and people and will lead to major issues
In 3rd world countries, people who really want to go to school can't even afford it. Over here in the west, we get schooling for free and don't even want it. Isn't life just funny?
Life is a lot like a video game, Play by the rules and you get rewarded Cheat and get banned by justice Free roam and do what you like Live life from the start and work your way up The only difference is that it will always be on the hardest difficulty, no retries, no pausing, no restarting. Just One Life
i mean these parents are so irresponsible and it is totally neglectful the 11 year old did not even know basic math and to not give your children boundaries is just ridiculous in every aspect of life there are rules and boundaries these parents have done a disservice to those children and it will be us that end up funding their benefits or welfare because they find they dont have the mental knowledge to keep a decent job...... every parent is different but to willingly hold your kids back is neglect and lets be honest those kids came across as spoilt little brats who never heard the word no or please wait or no that is rude my 5 year old is more intelligent than that 11 year old was my son knows his abc he can count to way past 100 he knows his phonics, he can add and subtract and that was before he even went to full time school as i knew it was my responsibility as a parent to give him this knowledge to prepare him for learning to show my children that learning is a luxury our ancestors didnt have like we do now and that education is so very important and this 11 year old didnt know the different between 8 or 6 cups of flour absolutely detrimental to those children..they may be happy but i can guarantee with parents like that they wont have successful careers they wont have the joy of knowledge and intelligence
She’s the kind of lady who blames misspelled words on her pencil. Actually that’s probably not the best example considering she doesn’t care about needing to write...
These kids won't stay young and cute forever. They'll grow into teens and then adults who don't know how to cope with being told "no." In real life, there are boundaries. These kids haven't learned any of them.
I rarely say this, but these kids are NOT cute. They are wild, and not in a good way. I'm all for letting children explore their own interests, all for learning thru play, but children don't know what they need to know.
That is just your opinion. I think they are cute and they are thinking for themselves not learning to believe whatever comes from a Teacher's mouth to be taken for complete truth. Books are the same, who wrote them and who knows all this information. Do you really believe it's all the truth? Well, most people believe what they've learned in school and the parents believe it all too. Brainwashing going on for a long time. So you think they are wild, so what, you have obviously been very stifled and controlled and need others to be too!
MyNevaeh...Many ignorant people on here. You seem so jealous like most here it's just sad. What kind of person are you to wish so much harm on people you don't even know. Wow!
Casandra 1234 Your argument is very invalid to your point. What everyone is trying to say is that these kids will grow up to not know the rules and regulations that real life gives since they have been acting like that. I mean, I'm all for creative thinking, but you got to think about their future. How will they survive? If they were raised to be happy, how will they be able to cope with the sadness real life gives? Questions like that are what you should be thinking about.
Resabout B. Yeah I do believe getting told no isn't necessary. Just don't provide them with much, aside of a loving environment. Cause of you don't provide with much, but also teach them what their opportunities are or take them on trips, they will get tired of the home and seek a path.
Yea I don't understand that mentality. So give them whatever they want or they'll steal it? How is that giving them any sort of life lesson? They're not going to get everything they want in life and that lesson has to be learned young.
“Why can’t it be a yes?” Because learning how to handle being told no is a big lesson kids need to learn. They need to understand you don’t always get what you want and how to move past it.
@@LaceyTripp95 yes! I've also been wondering this. You can't just do whatever the heck u want and expect that saying "well why can't it be yes" is gonna justify what you've done
Ikr, I remember how I learned sandstone was a soft rock, I stood on a cliff made of sandstone and it broke beneath my feet lol. But I can’t believe the 11 year old can barely even multiply
I want to know what he learned that taught him that. He might have actually remembered something. Maybe that the air on top of a mountain is closer to space so is farther from earth's gravity and thus the air is not as condensed and there are so few oxygen molecules up there that standing on top of a mountain without equipment could knock you out and even cause permanent brain damage? BTW, that's something I did not learn in school!
I couldn't help but notice the 11 year old's voice. He doesn't pronounce his "r"s. Normally, a speech pathologist would work with him on that, but if he doesn't go to school... It's just so sad.
@@pink-roses-and-scarlet-skies I don't see a problem with being different why do we all need to talk the same? We can understand him that's all we need
@@sugarrollz3524 there's nothing wrong with being different but if his cognitive abilities are being stunted due to his parent's choices e.g. his ability to talk properly then that is cause for concern. He is clearly not being educated correctly or getting proper socialization.
MEWANTSACOOKIE not even McDonald's would hire them; you have to know basic math skills and also show up on time. You have to do things you don't want to do and take your break only when allowed to. These kids have no concept of any of these BASIC ideas
I get it. School sucks. But if I didnt have school, I wouldn't have friends. I wouldn't have a purpose. All I do when I'm not at school is sit at home. That doesn't mean I necessarily want to go to Algebra 2. But some of the classes I take, like Human Body Systems and Biomedical Sciences, are very interesting and I actually look forward to them. Those kids cannot be anything they want. They cant be any type of doctor or lawyer or basically anything high paying and academically requiring (which is basically every job). Because they dont have the schooling. If that kid wants to be a doctor, he needs at LEAST a GED, college, medical school, AND residency. But wait, hows he gonna get a GED if he doesnt know 8x7? She is destroying so many options by not sending her kids to school.
Got my GED in 10th grade through a adult ED and went to work. I now make 85k a year as a welding supervisor at a navy ship yard. People are lazy now and that’s all their is to it. The don’t work because they don’t want to not because they can’t and they laugh at manual labor jobs. Now I get to sit back and laugh at the idiots that were straight A students all through school and are now in major debt from useless collage and working $12-$15 hour jobs because they can’t find work in the useless subject they went to school for. It’s a joke and people need to get off their ass and work
There are people who literally sacrifice their lives so that their kids might have a chance to go to school. And yet, in the land where school is free for everyone, there are kids who will never learn about the world...
Brandon Beesley welll not rly... they are all actually doing very well ! devon is a carpenter and metalworker, tiff is a model and ivy and orion are still teens
These kids will grow up and realize, they don’t know anything. They’ll meet other kids their age that complain of long hours of homework, they’ll feel happy they didn’t experience that, until they realize that their friends doing the work are the ones with jobs. What kind of employer would hire a teen, or adult who never went to school? What college?
Why am I Alive They may know how to read but do you think they understand "PEMDAS"?Can they solve a division problem with large numbers without a calculator? Do they know why tree's are green or all the eight planets? I doubt it I'd love to take criticism but I don't know if I can take something from someone with a roblox profile picture
I personally find this disgusting. Knowing basic math is crucial in the "real world". Not exposing your children to discipline is a type of child abuse and causes mental problems later on. Sleep schedules are very important and not having them will be a problem in later jobs. I pray that God will help these children. So sad..
whilst i agree on the discipline and maths, new research suggests humans naturally have different sleep patterns and forcing teens to sleep earlier (and wake up earlier) then there natural body clock needs reduces sleep quality
I’ve met adults that grew up without rules and they are frustrated people. One was my former neighbor nice enough person but just didn’t understand rules. He got evicted from his apartment because he thought he didn’t have to follow basic guidelines and couldn’t cope. It’s a disservice to the children. I’m all for kids being kids and enjoying themselves and learning on their own but there has to be some sense of order or else they grow up to be lost as adults.
Maya Strizheus You’re absolutely correct. However, I feel that this was a bad example of unschooling. The articles I’ve read could be sugar coating it, of course, but I still plan to unschool my children. What they need to know is how to do taxes, write checks, etc., they don’t need to know half of what is covered in public school math. If my child were exposed to the appropriate amount of careers (as I really hope the children shown in this video are) and for example one wanted to pursue architecture, he or she should absolutely learn the math and skills to later pursue that. This house does seem chaotic, though, and for the most part they don’t really seem to be learning... this could be done better. My point is, unschooling could still be done successfully.
I was unschooled. It's not a good idea :/ stick with homeschool or public school! I thought unschooling was fun when I was little, but now I'm 18. If my friends have me their homework, I'd just stare at it and not know what the hell to do! I'm very fortunate to be somewhat talented, and to be able to make and sell sculptures. But if I end up not being able to support myself financially, I'm gonna have to get an actual job, and it probably won't be easy. :/
I agree, your sculptures are beautiful! I think the best thing you can look at right now is setting up a website and starting a small business sculpting people's pets.
Wow, they aren't even teaching them the basic skill to delay gratification at all, which is an insanely important need for everyone to function in society. You have to compromise and not demand everything you want instantly to get by. But I guess that's too abstract a thought for these parents.
In an absolutely perfect world no one would have to learn or do anything they weren't interested in but I agree that this isn't conductive to their long-term happiness. I don't have a bad opinion of the parents, though. I respect their out of the box thinking. I'd like it if a lot of the attitudes about childhood and life and society were radically changed on widescale. It doesn't seem like the long-term consequences of this, in some cases, are necessarily as bad as I immediately assumed. If I had children I would want to raise them with a balance between the kind of freedom they have and structure, rules, learning to delay instant gratification and non-violent discipline.
@@cleocole493 You only 'need' something relative to a specific goal. The experienced frustration of our desires is inherently painful, if their desires aren't satisfied they will suffer as a result ('suffer' might sound dramatic to most people but they will experience distress as a result). I don't remember what the mother or the parents said and I agree that they should consider their children's long-term needs but it's not unimportant that children be free to play and engage in engage in activity that is interesting and fun. It's not trivial whether or not they feel bored with their lives at any given moment.
That’s barely enough. How will they got jobs? Will they be successful in the future? Most likely not bc in life you have to work. Sure there is the government that can pay but you need an excuse.
Yh this somehow feels like we are creating a different kid of human beings, that aren't exactly at the very top. Sorry if it sounds like an insult but its true. Instead of being at the top, we would have two types, one that is the logical and more superior, and another that lacks required intelligence and is inferior. This world...
These kids might do better in the work force with a bit more rules though. They will be more self confident and sure if themselves probably better leaders not waiting for someone to say what they should do...... hopefully. Like I said though some more rules where parents get final say would be important
Depends man, that is a lot of flour maybe yes but if its sorta bulk production like enough for whole family could need 6-8 cups.hell I work in bakery where we make 20 kilo doughs each day
Alex yu- I think you missed his point. Normally people with even the most basic math skills would say “6-8 cups of flour”, NOT “8-6 cups...”. The kid may not really understand math at all, is our fear.
Her answer "do you think it's necessary?" To learn about history and government? YES IF THEY INTEND TO VOTE YES!!!! The parents just seem lazy to me. I get it. 4 kids to school everyday is hard. But they're doing a disservice to their children.
I would never forgive my parents if this is how they brought me up. Many people as saying there are many people without degrees that are so successful. Yes this maybe true but how many successful people do you hear of that haven't even been though a primary or secondary school education. This mother is setting the up for failure as how many employers are there that are willing to hire someone who hasn't been taught basic maths or are ignorant to many aspects of life. Not only this but they are almost depriving the children in experiences. Making friends are limited due to the lack of opportunity to do so as well has having a hard time relating. Additionally, where is the resilience that learn from having to soldier through hard times such as exams. Send your kids to school it allows more opportunities in life and it will be much easier when they are older. They might come to resent you if you deprive them of this.
Just out of curiosity, how much of any exam you took in high school do you still remember today? How much of those subjects you hated and were forced to 'learn' do you use in your job today? Going to guess that your answer, like most if they are being honest, is near zero. The reality is people dont need more than a 4th grade education to thrive in society. For the most part school isnt about learning. Its about memorization. How many college educated idiots have you come across in your life? More than a few right? And those idiots arent idiots because they have bad memories. They are idiots because they dont have any common sense. The most important thing a child can learn is how money works. Learning that money is more than just something to spend is one of the most important lessons anyone can learn in life and yet most people dont get taught in school anything about money. So, after all that has been typed here, how useful is school really?
In England every single employer asks for a English and Maths GCSE. Some stuff taught in schools is completely pointless, but as far as maths and English go, they are not.
Yeah Same sometimes school is a bad environment for learning and making friends. Many kids get bullied in school. In school, you are forced to learn things you have no interest in and end up forgetting anyway. Almost every student in school ends up hating learning and reading by the time they graduate, and so they never choose to read outside of what's required for school. The friends made are often very fake and only continue the friendship for selfish reasons like using people for popularity. How many of our high school friends still keep in touch now that we're adults? Probably not many. Just shows how shallow those friendships were. Kids can be socialized without school. Compulsory school didn't exist forever in human history, and yet humans still managed to socialize just fine. They also managed to learn just fine too. Otherwise we wouldn't still exist as a species.
She’s doing more hurt than help. They won’t understand social structures, basic math, basic english, etc. Rules of the jungle, eat or be eaten. An adult should know better than a child, that's why they're in charge. This woman is insane.
mads yup. Its clear they already have trouble. The way the girl answered the guy when he was quizzing them about what he just taught was rude. She has not been taught an ounce of respect.
Even if they learn what they need to learn somehow, the social structures thing is important to know. How are they going to function in a basic minimum wage job if they've never been taught what it means to obey your boss? And she says in regards to algebra that people aren't all on this planet to do the same thing, but the thing about kids is they don't know what they'll need later in life and need to be equipped with the basics to get them into anything they might want to pursue. If one kid doesn't like algebra today, that doesn't mean he won't want to work a job that needs it down the line, but he won't have the basics at that point and it'll be much harder to learn.
mads - agree 100%. Imho, she is abusing her children. I think what gets me is her superiority and her subtle smugness. I've been working with children for 40 years in one way or another - made mistakes and also had victories. But this woman is cracked. Not everybody "uses" algebra, true, but algebra also helps you learn to think critically. It is a brain-trainer. This woman is preventing her children from having the opportunity to improve their lives - to improve themselves and their circumstances. These children will not really need to fear being murdered in their lives, because LIFE ITSELF will rise up... and kill her children. The woman is practising virtual abortion After birth. And she is denying the existence... of her children.
I am a year and a half away from graduating, starting my life. Getting a degree. I would NEVER forgive my family for holding me back from school. School may be hard and annoying, but it is VITAL. "I like being free and doing whatever I want." Kid, THATS NOT REAL LIFE. Someone stop these people from becoming parents.
Kaeli H your parents just helped you be a good slave for the machine. I was a good slave for 20 years. I'd rather have been homeschool been my own boss with my own schedule. I don't know so much about unSchool I think it's just a way to go after homeschool parents who raise amazing kids outside of the public fool system. They are happy doing whatever the hell they want and noone ever had to tell them ANYTHING. But it's ok to tell a kid they are a girl and to cut their penis off..cuz...they "feel" like it
mary sunshine I never said anything against homeschooling. That's completely 100% fine. But no school? That's not fine at all. Do NOT call me a slave, that's completely disrespectful. I am my own person with my own opinions.
mary sunshine My friend was homeschooled. Now he's 23, I'm his only friend and he never knew how to fit in or be social with other people his age. He's not an only child either. He has a sibling that's 2 years younger than him. He is very anti-social. Yeah public schooling need some changes but being homeschooled and not learning math, English, critical thinking, and the other basics will fuck these kids up.
catlover r I went to school all 13 years and it never did me any good socially. And you don't even sound like a good friend the way you are judging this person.
MaryJane Blues - even sending them to school requires minimal effort. u just dump them there, teachers teach, they get food, friends, breaks and in some cases counselling and life lessons. there’s no reason why they shouldn’t send them to school. i edited this for clarity. if you wanna debate, talk about these points bc that’s essentially what i’m saying. i’m in NO WAY supporting free range upbringing like a lot of you interpret me to be. i’ll only bother replying from now if you’re gonna actually use these points. responded enough and barely any of you will listen to my explanation. ta 😚
lil egg no, you have to prepare them for the next school day helping them with hw, making sure they’re engaged in their classes, have all the things they need, getting up early each morning, picking them up after a long day, and actually paying in some way for their education and not hoarding all the money for themselves. So sending kids to school is not “lazy” for the vast majority of parents, it’s cause they actually care about the kids future rather than let their child do whatever they want bc they’re scared to tell them no
@@bobsburgers8497 - ngl it's still minimal effort especially when the kids grow up. that's what i'm saying, you don't need to spend that much effort to send your child to an actual school. if you didn't realise, i'm still actually criticising those parents because it doesn't take much effort really for them to have their kids live a normal life when they're already doing some of the things you said.
lil egg how the hell is sending your kids to school lazy? Parents work when their kids are at school. And I can tell you if they do after school activities like sports or band then they have to work way harder. Parents have to make sure their kids homework gets done, make sure they are in bed on time and wake up on time, and most parents help kids study for tests. They are preparing them for life, that isn’t lazy. What is lazy is what these parents are doing. It’s negligent and harmful.
Child neglect? Those kids have a huge disadvantage in the real world without a diploma... all because their mother doesn't feel like teaching them.. Wow thanks for the likes I never had this many before
Children should have the opportunity to enter college when they're of age. These poor kids are screwed. These parents could teach their kids the school stuff they really do need to know, while structuring the day in a way that best fits each kid. This is child neglect.
Seriously these kids wont even be able to pass the remedial math/English at community college let alone get a degree. They are stuck to a life of low level blue collar work whether they like it or not.
@@coffeeonthemoon college can be just as much about learning about the world around you as the diploma at the end. And in rare cases a diploma doesn't matter. Generally, those with a diploma do much better in the job market and in pretty much all other categories that statistions measure. Without my diploma I wouldn't be able to have nearly the quality of life I have now. I get to work my dream job and I am a much smarter person than before I went to college.
@@coffeeonthemoon tell that to all the jobs that require a diploma or higher education idk how they can even get their GED and go to college if they want to be something like a doctor etc Its gonna hard for them to provide for their kids🤷♀️😭
In some states have no homeschooling regulations so parents can notify a school that they are homeschooled and the school has to take their word with no proof
We need a “where are they now “ update
Sad
Sydnee Sims cue the mcdonalds logo
the oldest kid “graduated top of his class being above average in every class” according to the moms blog
Gianna gahagan in what class? They don’t go to school.
They have a youtube channel sparkling Martin's. I youtubed searched "martin family free range"
“so what did you learn?”
“ i learned to not stand on top of a mountain”
what the hell.
That shook me too.
Maybe that's why they can't comprehend because they fell off a mountain in the past🤣🤣
Running from the police, standing on a mountain may come in handy I guess
They’re dumber than _____....
Your pfp tho. 😂
I'm open minded, but this just seems like educational neglect.
These parents are absolutely fucking nutterbutters lol.
Nancy Cronk in Cali, the police would be knocking on their door forcing them to go to school😬😬😬😬
They should at least know math and spelling. Without that, not even a diner will hire them
Yeah I agree. I can see why people hate school, but not going to school it altogether just isn’t a great idea
Yeah, they set their kids up for disaster. They won't be able to go to college which could lead to them not having a good job or live happily.
I went to an "untraditional school". We still had to learn history, math, science ect. They just encouraged us to study what we're interested in within those guidelines. It actually worked out really well and the kids who graduated actually cared about (and had) a well rounded education. Kids definitely still need structure, discipline and to learn to handle being told no. But maybe our public school system could use a bit more balance between just learning to be good test takers and nurturing a child's interests.
MY PARENTS NO READ,NO WRITE
MY FATHER DID HIS BEST MAKE SURE ALL HIS CHILDREN DONE FROM SCHOOL.
yup, there are two ends of the spectrum here, neither of which are desirable
if they are allowed to do what they want without being they will not be able to live in the real world. unschooling does not work for real-world skills because they do not learn how to handle discipline
Modern society is bs imo, but yeah kids still need to be taught how to cope with the reality they live in while also understanding that a lot of it is bs. We need society and sadly can’t live without it. I would happily go live off grid in the woods if it weren’t so lonely. I’m basically a wild animal already lol so I would fit in.
Even drug dealers need to know basic math and measurements. Good luck kids!
Abrea Lowry Oh gahh so true
Abrea Lowry@basic math it's easy and important,but algebra is waste of time and useless!!
@@agees924 But they aren't even being homeschooled.
They don't need it to pass a test they need it to sell drugs in the right measurements
sam tobi ikr when will u use algebra irl ???
I hate school but I know I need school😂
Atta girl 👏
Yes !!! 👏🏻👏🏻
smile@Smh,you need wasting your time and money?😕
@@LexlutherVII well you don't need to know to know who Christopher Columbus was or not even anything related to story , chemistry or fancy maths but at the very least you learn how to use basic math , have some discipline , work in groups and work alone when necessary. If you want to be a doctor , a lawyer or an engineer you have no option but to attend school and then college but if you're fine with a minimum wage job then school was never meant for you
smile I agree! School may not be fun but it’s so crucial!
Life’s gonna hit em hard. Can’t imagine an adult who never received any discipline for bad behavior as a kid and functioning in the real world.
Adults like that are usually in prison. LMAO!!
They end up as criminals.
Exactly. They're going to resent their parents for this.
Preach.
So-pi-a Skye you have to be bad tho to discipline & I don’t really see these kids being bad.
As an 18 year old that was "Unschooled" his whole life, I can safely say that this an extremely unethical way to raise children. Now days I struggle with learning disabilities and I'm slow to process information. Along with that, trying to socialize is extremely stressful for me even among friends and family, thus it is very hard for me to form connections properly. I beg any parent that sees this not to do this to your kids, don't let them end up as fucked up as me.
There is still a way for you to learn English skills first. Reading and writing, you would have to start with baby books just like any other illiterate adult. There are videos these days for children to teach them how to read, write, spell and various other things.
Your writing skills are pretty good from this post, actually. I left school at 15 and eventually found salvation at a community college, then university. If you are as honest with others as you appear to be here, I think quality people will find their way into your life.
I felt like my parents were strict when I was a kid and hated the rules and other students bugged me, but now I’m grateful for all of it. I learned social skills, learned to follow the rules, how to manage my time and keep track of my responsibilities. Im grateful they decided to not go with this parenting method-I don’t even think this was a thing when I was a kid, or at least not as mainstream…I have goals and plans and I wouldn’t have been able to take steps toward and do had I been “unschooled”. I think it’s too extreme
I am sorry this happened to you 😢 hope you will find a way to be happy 😊
My parents did the same thing so I wouldn’t leave them. I did. I struggle. I learn. It is so hard though. I know I’m behind for my age, but I just remind myself I am ahead of others in the same situation as well. Trying to appear normal to others is so tiring.
When we asked 11 year old Devon a basic multiplication question he stumbled... HAD ME DEAD why she roast him like that
Right 🗣😂
All I could think is about my cousin who’s school allows them to use calculators for basic multiplication. I’m still mad at her school for that!
Violated him 😂
Hahaha!!!
PoOh- I was hoping she’d make the whole family look dumber than they did. She should have set the whole bunch up. Take them shopping, give them a bunch of change, and tell them to figure it out. Or have one read a story out loud. Lmao
She’s throwing away their lives. They will be completely unprepared for life
Cassidy Bell - Well, the parents might finally figure that out when the "kids" are still living at home with them 50 years from now because they had no clue how to get or keep a job and support themselves.
Yeah I agree. Even though the mom allows studying by reading books and stuff they'll go out in the world not knowing who the first president is
Eh
I'm conflicted about this on one hand they could learn alot of day to day life skills like cooking but on the other I could see how it could get out of hand really quickly. But on a side note I dont remember 90% of what I learned in school and I dont think our kids learn actual life skills in school. I learned so much more relevant info from Google than school. Now I will never let my kids be free range because I know what it's like when they are out of control but I do think our current school system has flaws.
her kids are gonna be what they want to be. like the 11 year old kid. he’s a whole baker. he might grow up to be a baker.
Imagine their parents passing away what would they do
Poor children
OMG! Yeeeeessssss!
You made me see this in a different light. Good point.
Theyd go to school, but theyll be very prepared, they all have hobbies that can be jobs
Harriet Antrobus when youre 14 you can get experience, they’ll probably have to study for a ged.
What any child would do if their parents died. Theyd still be sad. And when a kids parent dies they usually take time off of school anyways
My mother raised me and my siblings like this. Horrible, terrible, selfish decision. We started from square one at age 18. It’s been hell.
Going through the same exact thing.
So sorrow this has happened to you 🙈 hope you find a way to be happy. You can do this!
I’m homeschool my children. Things have been so terrible at school lately w masking, social distancing, etc.
Your full of it
@@elizabethmonsell1847 How is that relevant to anything? They're talking about unschooling, not homeschooling.
I’m homeschooled, and this is embarrassing. All the mom is doing when asked about her kids future is deflecting. These kids genuinely won’t be able to function in society.
Cora Rose exactly
Caring for your kids doesn't necessarily all mean to make and keep them happy, you need to make sure they can function in this world or they won't be able to support themselves. This is downgrowding to society to watch. How are they going to get jobs if they dont understand basic math?
They’ll just have to stay indoors
I was homeschooled and we got to explore a lot of our interests. We spent a lot of time working on our own projects. But that was not the core of our education, not by far. We had to do a lot of structured academic work.
My mom's approach was unconventional, but critical thinking skills and typical academic standards were at the heart of it. She wanted us to want to learn, and to know how to govern our own intellectual journeys towards whatever successes we desired.
My heart breaks when I see families like this who intentionally rob their children of education in any form. Because that's what she's doing. They will not be equipped to make anything out of their "interests" without first catching up on fundamentals they would have been better off learning as kids.
I was homeschooled my entire life and I’m super lazy, but this is genuinely ridiculous. I feel the same way that you guys do.
i agree that the public school system sucks but like... real life... has rules...
Swordbird98 Actually, it doesn't have the same rules for everyone. And all rules can be rewritten or redefined.
State Slave In real life? As a human adult? It’s the same rules for everyone. There are punishments for breaking rules.
Laws can be “rewritten or redefined” but they’re still laws.
Swordbird98 Wrong. Bring Johnnie Cochran back from the dead, and you can get away with murder. The law is very unevenly applied. Rules are for the middle class. The poor break the rules; the wealthy find "loopholes."
Swordbird98 right on! I definitely am not happy with the public schooling. I believe in homeschooling so you can focus on your child's intrerest and strengths but u are absolutely right. Life has rules and boundaries that if you do not teach your kids they will more then likely fail as adults. In curious to see what these kids are doing 10 years from now
My husband is a public high school teacher and he frequently has to teach students things they’ve not previously learnt for various reasons. One of the hardest things teachers have to overcome is trying to teach children who come from homes where rules are not enforced and where the parents fail to engage in their children’s education. It’s so very frustrating for him because he works long hours-evenings and weekends grading papers and writing lesson plans, but if a kid’s family doesn’t place a priority on education, then it makes his job harder. Of course, everyone blames the instructors instead of the homes lives of some of these kids.
She's the type of person to water artificial plants-
Lmao.....that's a good one homie...
“A plastic plant’s needs are just as valid as a natural plant’s needs.”
Savage
don't inuslt us dummies who water fake plants like that dude :(
@ghettoroach, this is giving help to some who doesn't need it. To some, it's neglecting real plants.
I’m a teacher and I can tell you this is a form of neglect. There’s a thing called educational neglect and it’s where the parents neglect the educational needs of the child. So kids can actually get taken away from parents who do “unschooling”
I'm a sub teacher, and I agree.
Im a retard and idk what y’all are saying
Um ya so, no your wrong. The law says that if your homeschooling and your child fills requirements up to 2 grades lower that them your fine . I javelin been unschooling for years and it's simply learning through life instead of having a practical 9-5 job starting when your six . Unschoolers are always put down for not teaching when really we have taught our kids ever since they were born . If you don't you to go to school to learn to speak and walk then why would you need to go for math and history
@@channing_alise Because sometimes things in life are ALOT more complicated than walking. Does that unschooled kid want to be a pilot? He better learn ADVANCED math...Or no pilot.
@@makim-k5850 ya but the kid isn't going to get into that till his late child hood . When they have an interest they will learn about it
Doesn’t she realize school doesn’t just teach you things in the curriculum you learn how to socialize hold commitments and manage your time
exactly xx
No this isn't true but school is still important 4 some people...
Not true
Homeschooled my whole life and I have a very active social life, am very dependable, and great at time management.
@@qhoeuix I go to school and I'm depressed I'm always late I feel worthless and I have no friends...
So this was 6 years ago, I want to see an update on the kids now! ABC do any update!
KiaraAkira45 they have their own youtube channel called the sparkling Martins
They're actually a super sweet family. The kids have calmed down a lot. I saw their blueberry picking video, and when they questioned if they could pick one blueberry from the farmed area, they were all like "nooo!" I do like school and having a formal form of education, but I also love the idea of kids having more time to pursue and just be kids. Kid's have it a little more stressful now then they use to. My cousin has like three classes in addition to school. Swimming, martial arts and piano. One has like four, with the addition of figure skating. I
I'm sure you can find them front row at any given Trump rally
That's funny, considering their mother is a loud and proud liberal.
TigersandBearsOhMy it's funny because it's a joke. Considering most trump supporters are uneducated and not very bright.
When the mother is questioned, she turns the question back on the questioner. This video was published in 2010. Shame there isn't a follow-up video showing what became of the kids.
You can easily find that for yourself. Her eldest son is a self taught blacksmith and clothes maker. Her eldest daughter is a model. Her other 2 are too young yet. They're all over social media so no need to do a follow up video.
@@amandaponder1251 Yes from her (Dayna Martins) blog!
And, I recently found out her eldest wanted a highschool diploma and took a test to receive it and passed it with flying colors. All with no formal instruction. I'm currently unschooling my children.
@@monicakelly6273 I love her and her family. Absolutely inspiring family!
@@amandaponder1251 you belong in jail
if anyone is interested in an update:
Devin is married and owns a house, one of the daughters works at a restaurant, and the other daughter lives at home with her boyfriend. The parents are divorced and the mom has gotten remarried. She still believes in unschooling
@@hinasaku5324 the family channel
The mom makes a fortune by helping other parents unschool their kids
I'm glad they're doing okay, no thanks to their braindead and selfish parents.
what does he do for a living
i found a devin martin in nh who works as a security guard
Parents are meant to guide kids... not be slaves to them..
yea guide them into robots .. thats working out great
TheDman216 ? Didn’t get your point bro...
Most kids: sneak out to do drugs
Martin kids: sneak out to go to school and learn
They have the option to learn they learn in what they're interested in
abradolf lincler how to socialize, the basics of English and math
abradolf lincler Ik I was just listing more things the school teaches you
Olyvia Fleming fuck that one’s good 😂
Eeeyyy I’m the 1k like
“I just want my children to be happy.”
Happy don’t buy groceries.
Exactly!
Hahaahahahha
This. I hate how people in the modern age sacrifice efficiency and practicallity for what makes them feel good.
When society and reality start having an effect on them happy is the last thing they're gonna be.
Yeah that's about right, gives them completely unrealistic expectation of reality
This is called not caring about their kids.
Yeah. A lot of these "hands off" parenting tactics are really just an excuse to be lazy and neglect your children, or intentionally ruin their lives while pretending to be a caring person because the parents want them to be losers just like them.
This woman should be imprisoned for child neglect. Terrible woman...
i think she thinks she's caring, she probably had a bad school-related experience herself
@@universalsubliminals1174 No. Parents who experience that may homeschool their kid the normal way then. They'd still want their kid to have an education and actually feel loved and taken care of. This woman genuinely doesn't care. There is no amount of trauma one can have to intentionally ruin their children's lives in a way that's obvious to any person with basic common sense, even low common sense. There's no way she doesn't know what she's doing. Even an extremely dumb, clueless, or traumatized parent can understand the issue with this. She's a bad person, and people who insist that abusive or neglectful parents have good intentions are unintentionally enabling these parents, which in turn causes even more kids to be abused or neglected, because it makes people feel inclined to sympathise and even enable the parent instead of rightfully holding them accountable. Please stop spreading the notion that neglectful parents are well meaning, because 99% of the time, this is what they want you to think. They are successfully manipulating you.
Was high school the most miserable time of my life? Yes.
But as an adult, am I glad I got a high school diploma and went to college? ABSOLUTELY
thinking of these kids in the real world shakes me to my core oml
yes and what are you doing any differntly then anybody else?? NOTHING..
ohh please.. positive impacts LOL You are as clueless as the person i was talking to .. iam glad she not zombifying her kids to be tax slaves..good for her
@@TheDman216 So you think anyone can get through life without education? That's pretty pathetic. If you want to get anywhere in life you need to know things like math. We use math everyday without even realizing it. How are these kids going to get a decent job with no education or discipline? They won't unless they get really lucky. The only job they might be able to get is being a waitress or a chef, and that's about it.
@Matthew Nicholson yes but the requiring is the problem. How will they get a job without some kind of schooling.
@@cats101lover yes this is very true but some of the math that they use now is dumb and the way they put it is difficult i think there are certain jobs for certain types of math strategies and subjects
This is how many people want a follow up interview for 2020
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Stop begging for likes on a comment that has no substance. Why do you even care?
elio palombi what are you 5? Lol begging for likes , so sad this is what kids think is important.
@@jalisaalanaye1662 I'm not begging for likes, they don't matter that much. However, the more likes I get the more likely a follow up video is going to come up, which is my main objective.
Instead of being a sad, triggered person, why don't you take a course on how to improve your grammar.
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@@hellzshotgun Same applies to you. I don't want likes. I want a follow up video. More likes, more chance of a follow up video.
No... I don't think 134 likes is ever going to get a follow up interview .-.
Those kids are screwed.....
Very, very screwed.
The people who will encounter these kids as adults will be the ones who are screwed. It would serve their stupid parents right if these kids never leave home.
These people shouldn't be having kids.
Right
nate .x I agree 😸😹😹😸
as someone who grew up with this kind of BS parenting and is suffering for it, I just want people to know that if you do this crap, you are handicapping your kids for life. they will be behind all their peers and spend years of their life having to get extra schooling and help to try to fix the problem you caused. Doing this is intentionally causing harm to your child.
I feel so bad :(
This is extremely true. I'm dealing with this right now. I did have former education before covid but my two little brothers did not. I could only imagine how its gonna be for them when they get older..
I'm trying to teach myself algebra‚ history‚ science‚ biology‚ ect. which is extremely hard if you have been through a similar situation.
No thanks to my parent who sit on their phone all day or my other parent who is gone most of the day doing god knows what and are somehow still providing enough money to provide for us.
If you cant set your child up for success when they grow up‚ don't have one. Plain. And. Simple.
Im very sorry that you have experienced something similar.. nobody deserves this hell all because your parents are lazy.
It’s funny because I was public schooled and feel this way about them. They didn’t teach me anything but how to get by and stalled my time I could spend learning “learning” bullshit I’m gonna forget and can’t use in life. They killed my creatively and individuality. They ruined my life like man others just to Land them in a lifetime of debt and working the jobs the people on the top don’t want to work. Factory workers
I wonder what happens when it's time for job applications...
C. V
Special traits:nothing
Highschool:none
Degree in being lazy
Being profoundly stupid
No reason to be alive
actually, surprisingly the oldest has a good job and the other kids are doing quite fine for themselves
Jobs?!?! That's not fun! They don't need those.
That's what I said! When you are homeschooled or don't go to school, you can't socialize as well. Sure, you can make friends, but when these kids want jobs, they won't know how to deal with co-workers they don't like. They also might not learn crucial ELA skills due to the fact that their mother and father don't force them to learn anything that they don't want to.
Also, they need to learn some basic math skills. If these kids don't know how to do certain things mathwise, then they definitely will not be successful. The one kid seems to be really good with cooking. How will they do their measurements and such if they don't know how to do basic math?
And real life😕
Interviewer: *asks a question*
mom: I don't know, you tell me
This woman sounds like she's never read a book.
But she wrote one 😂
Cindy Desjardins omg 😂
True
probs can't even get through the title of the cat in the hat
You nailed it!
"Dayna Martin doesn't think her kids need to go to school to learn their ABC's."
What a more appropriate news channel than ABC to tell me that?
Lmao that's beautiful
I did learn my ABCs and how to write my name from my mom, but that doesn't mean that school can't teach me anything else
“So what did you learn?”
“ i LeArNeD nOt To StAnD oN tOp Of a mOuNtAiN.”
😭😂😂😂
Seems she tries to teach some things, but because they are "free" they don't have to listen, so don't learn. I'm wondering how much they can read.
@ I couldn't tell, because mom mentioned them being able to read what they want. They may not be able to. That's sad. At least teach them to read and do basic math. That would give them a chance to learn from books
Aaaaahhhh
omg those kids are gonna be hurting they dont have any clue
she hasn’t pointed the fact that they have no friends or have really met other humans. 😂
Sophia Lane that’s why the majority of them have large ish families
You don’t know that they could have little unschooling meet ups wit other family’s
@Sophia Lane - LOL. Is better to meet with the exact same small group of people everyday for 13 years or have the freedom to meet new people from around the world everyday?
LauraEtarhienyo ur like 7 gtfo
they literally were in a shop talking to the shop keeper! and i'm sure they will have friends.
the least they could do is teach them basic math
+Queen Of Memes
So true
cookies + pepsi = tummy ache
Queen Of Memes yes
OMG I LOVE YOUR PIC
Eliza Schulyer
Mine ?
I agree with he fact that many of the things the school system teaches is unnecessary, especially in older grades, but I dont agree with this video. Most of the things children learn in elementary and middle school are very important in the real world, and the things they learn in high school are important if they want a career in that subject.
My school follows a British education system, where at grade 9/year 10, students choose 5 subjects, along with english and math, they want to study in the next 2 years. And then at grade 11/year 12 we choose 3 subjects to study until we graduate. I like this because we still learn all the essentials, but we also have some choice in what we learn.
My school has similar electives like that too. We also have the choice in 11th and 12th grade to go to another trade school that focuses on what you want to do in college half the day. It's good preparation.
6:32 Kid: mommy, how many cookies can we eat?
Mom: Idk 3 or 4?
Kid: *proceeds to grab10 cookies because he doesn't know how many 3 or 4 is*
Me, but I do know how many three or four is
Hello diabetes
LmAO
But the kids wouldn’t ask because they do whatever they want
Chikadee 😂😂😂
"Its legal because it counts as homeschooling..." I beg your f*cking pardon???
She clearly said she was unschooling. 🙄
Unschooling is part of the private school system, lol. As an actual homeschooler, I don't claim these people.
I laughed so hard at this 😂 but seriously wth are these people doing
Sea Otter Productions -- That statement shocked me as well. Do those kids never have to take exams and meet government curriculum milestones? Where was this video done? In Canada you can homeschool your kids, but they have to take standardized tests at Grades 3, 6, 9 and 12 to make sure they are keeping up with their schooled peers. You can't just let your kids run wild and only study what they like - what kid would ever CHOOSE to do Math or Physics if they didn't have to?!! I just got the sense all the way through this video that the parents are just mega--lazy when it comes to educating their kids. They take a field trip to a weather station and don't learn a single thing. The mother just reads the cue cards that come with each display while the kids are running wild at the other end of the room. They learned absolutely nothing on that trip.
Allow me to translate: "America". There, that should explain it.
*I think this mom just had a bad time at school*
like traumitized or bullied badly
Like everybody else
Simply Sweet exactly
You know, children can be happy and have a good education at the same time, it isn't that hard.
Yeah! I'm happy and I've been going to school since 2010! 😂 school can also be fun
School is needed, if not for learning math, then at least social skills.
mike taylor Homeschooling can work too if you provide other ways for your kids to be around other kids, like a homeschooling group or church or other things.
Statistics have shown homeschooled children do better socially later on in life and in general. They never have to deal with the bullying that other children deal with. Same with peer pressure.
I never said anything against homeschooling. My whole point is school is a necessary thing. Math and social skills are both important, whether you're going to a school or homeschooled. None of which these kids are getting.
Social skills: Posing, lying, giving in to peer pressure, intimidation, etc.
And people wonder why some families try to avoid forced interaction with the masses...
I’ve been homeschooled for six years of my school life I went to public school for five years and I was bullied because of my weight and how I didn’t learn as fast as the other kids it created pressure on myself and a Ed now I’m happy and I am able to skip a grade and graduate early all in all I’m much more happier and I socialize a lot better in fact I talk to people who are older than me and I also talk to adults much more better than kids my age
*There are people all around the world fighting for education*
*Then there are these people.....*
There are young girls in Africa and the Middle East who risk their lives on a daily basis to try to get some type of education. Some of these girls are murdered by their fathers for getting an education. This family just makes me sick, the way they discuss not needing an education. Not having to know world history, math... What kind of life are you getting your children ready for?? They probably can't even get a job at McDonald's since that can't do simple addition and subtraction. I feel bad for these kids...
@@_Lindsey_Beth_ 👏🏼👏🏼
@@_Lindsey_Beth_ queen 👏👏
Malala herself is fighting for girls education and children’s education and there’s these dumb people not bringing their kids to school that’s not good parents
MatDevilDave white privilege?
We all dreamed of this as children but now you know why school is needed. Life is gonna hit them so hard🙄
Edit: tnx 4 the likes
Right! Even if kids are homeschooled, parents should at least teach them things like how to follow rules. If they get away with doing whatever they want at home, they may think it’s okay to do whatever they want anywhere else. Also, leaning new things is so much fun and important if we want to survive in this world.
Yep. People who don’t at least know basic numbers and how to understand and read a language end up nowhere. They can’t even get a job as a trash collector or a fast food chef. I thought not taking kids to school was illegal (unless the laws are different in some places). Anyhow, these kids are going to be living in their parents basement, probably doing absolutely nothing (because everything involves reading and numbers nowadays), or they’re gonna be homeless on the streets.
I kinda see where this so called "mother" is coming from. The way things are taught at school does need some improving, but that doesn't mean you need to abandon school as a whole! These kids will never learn how to socialise with anyone other than their siblings and parents and will probably end up on the street or at some crappy fast food chain.
Also these parents will be left the hard task of explaining to their kids how babies are made. Good luck!
Anje Planet I still dream of this. I can learn anything from youtube
@@Aethelhadas lol
Imagine when it comes the time for them to hear the word “no”
For real 😳 🤣
"What's that?"
She’s literally setting her kids up for failure... it’s sad.
Carole M and those kids screaming near the baby bunnies and the pug?? Those pets must be traumatised. And that kid holding the baby bunny and the dog like that?. Honestly and the mum isn’t even punishing them for that
As well as the school systems :/
Like how will they earn money? How will they get a job? How do they interact with others?
No she is not. I will parent my kids like this one of my friends had parents like this she's fine.
Amanda Etches Smdh. Just went I had faith left in humanity...
If you want free range then go buy chickens don’t have kids
😂😂😂
@Renn I beg to differ,these kids don't a chance in the real world.This is lazy parenting I can't even call this parenting,it's lazy at it's it's worst.These kids will never be able to function in the job world without education! And as far as random comments,I bet it's safe to say the majority have been or still are parents who have raised thier children in structure,rules,school,and have children who have started carreers of thier own.These are voices of experience.
Renn the poor oldest has a speech impediment that could’ve been fixed with a speech therapist, it is LAZY PARENTING.
@@piperbarry7853 Thank you for agreeing with me😀 Sad part is he would have received the hat in the public school system.
@Renn no,not cynical NB just life experience.,a parent of 2 adult children.One of which served in the military and has started a carreer in the medical field which requires a education.Go back and re-read the comments from the kids who actually we're raised in that manner and stated that it left them at a dissavantage point n thier lives.
My child was very confident and happy prior to starting school. I see a change in her spirits now that she’s in kindergarten. She’s had a hard time interacting with kids who were not very nice, getting up early , etc.
As much as it breaks my heart , i know she NEEDS this. My job is not to make things easier for her or indulge her.
My job is to expose her to as many people and situations as possible and be right there to support her, teach her right from wrong and guide her so when she’s an adult she can handle it in her own.
We added extra curricular activities to build confidence.
You can’t just deprive your child of opportunities, of the ability to be a functioning adult.
Even if they choose to be completely off grid someday, there are still chores and responsibilities, they will still have to deal with hard things in life.
This is child neglect in my opinion.
When I was five I created going to school but I'm glad my parents had me go to school
I felt the same when I first went to school, but my parents still hauled my ass to school, maybe she just needed to adapt to it.
Have you thought of homeschooling?
You're a good parent. Plus, kids sometimes need a little time to adjust anyway. Your child will get used to getting up early eventually, and if you teach your kid how to avoid, ignore, or stand up towards bullies, that will be more beneficial than using it as an excuse to isolate your child from the world, because people will face bullies anywhere at any time of their lives anyway. Depriving kids of their social life and education just because you're too impatient to let them get used to it just seems very stupid, and even a little selfish, because I think most of these parents know deep down that letting them learn through experience while they're young will prepare them for the real world, but they care more about not feeling discomfort at the moment than they do about their kid facing it later on when the parent is no longer responsible for them. I had a hard time in first grade due to getting bullied by kids and having a mean teacher at the time, but I stayed, and I'm glad I did. If my mom pulled me out of school, I would've missed out on all the good things about school and wouldn't have made as many friends. School has some downsides, but there are upsides too, and a lot of people take that for granted.
I wouldn’t call these people ‘parents’ because they aren’t parenting
Sour cherry scones they aren’t parenting by your own definition.
@@ashleynoneofyobusiness1759
They are not parenting by fact
I thought all you needed to be a parent was to produce offspring. A good parent feeds and clothes their child and provides shelter. A great one prepares them for life. Your definition and VoodooDolls here must be forcing them through grade school and preparing them for college debt.
They're taking care of them, yes. They're more like caretakers or providers than they are parents.
Yes they fucking are parenting. Its about love not school.
Can we get an update on this kids?
They have a RUclips channel. The Sparkling Martins
They beat up their mom and she awarded them by taking them to chukee cheese. It was a great moment and learning experience.
@FoshoJohnnySupreme 😂 Good, we don't need anymore useless people on the planet. 🤪
They are living their live happy and they have minecraft youtube channels..and the dad is a photographer for weddings
Andrew Waldon they’re all SJWs now. They’re the same business execs that made the toxic masculinity ad.
These kids are gonna be screwed when they realize not everyone makes everything go in your favor.
Perfectflaw they're gonna have a hard life in the future. they are also going to be illiterate
The oldest, (11), is already an adult so I hope she doing good
adore lol and now everyone is unschooling due to the Kronos virus.
For once I actually am grateful I’m dying in 11th grade chemistry
UK: Best of luck, you can do this!!!
@@isabellewhite3505 Thank you!!!
@@tiffanyhuang4217 . My daughter is 16 yo so I understand what you are going thru. Keep the self-faith because you can do this :)))
@@rosiewhitely6769 so sweet of you thank you!!
haha same !!
1. Loss of social interaction, leading to loneliness and depression
2. Loss of basic knowledge on biology, history, economics
3. Loss of job recourses without even middle school completion
Adult illiteracy, leading to embarrassment, shame, and even public harassment and/or bullying
Jordan Tyler I got to school I’m in high school rn I have socially awkward and I have bad anxiety I can’t even talk to a teacher with out getting nervous and I’ve been going to school my whole life and do we rly need history and bio like my mom doesn’t remember rly anything (she’s only 32 she had me in high school) and jobs well getting jobs r hard no matter wat I’ve applied to market basket and Dunkin’ Donuts but still nothing has happen and plus If all fails atleast there is youtube
Khalilah Anderson I’ve gone to school my whole life (I’m in high school rn) I couldn’t stand in front of my class without having an anxiety attack ppl r going to be embarrassed no matter wat they do and bullying happens everywhere no matter if u go to school or not may not happen to u or everyone but it does happen to a lot for example I got bullied online and in person in 5th grade no one care no one noticed no one bother to ask or to talk about it
Jordan Tyler I mean I have loneliness and depression and I go to public school
нεηтαι a growing child does, if the people you’re always around are just family their not experiencing other cultures and people and will lead to major issues
In 3rd world countries, people who really want to go to school can't even afford it. Over here in the west, we get schooling for free and don't even want it. Isn't life just funny?
@@rachelengel6668 yes almost true but also very rasict
What is the west for you?
@@edo4867 Canada and the us
@@baileymadison9019 But Canada is part of the United Kingdom, then the United Kingdom is not the West too?
Life is a lot like a video game,
Play by the rules and you get rewarded
Cheat and get banned by justice
Free roam and do what you like
Live life from the start and work your way up
The only difference is that it will always be on the hardest difficulty, no retries, no pausing, no restarting. Just One Life
This video was uploaded nearly 10 years ago, imagine what these kids are like now, they need to do a follow-up interview
They are actually doing great... Turns out that this way of raising kids is not that bad after all.
Desmitskes Unplugged lol an you know that how?
@@TeamRatchet2012 Because I have been following them for years? Those kids are doing just fine.
@@TeamRatchet2012 I clicked the description, and it was uploaded June 1st 2010
i mean these parents are so irresponsible and it is totally neglectful the 11 year old did not even know basic math and to not give your children boundaries is just ridiculous in every aspect of life there are rules and boundaries these parents have done a disservice to those children and it will be us that end up funding their benefits or welfare because they find they dont have the mental knowledge to keep a decent job......
every parent is different but to willingly hold your kids back is neglect and lets be honest those kids came across as spoilt little brats who never heard the word no or please wait or no that is rude
my 5 year old is more intelligent than that 11 year old was my son knows his abc he can count to way past 100 he knows his phonics, he can add and subtract and that was before he even went to full time school as i knew it was my responsibility as a parent to give him this knowledge to prepare him for learning to show my children that learning is a luxury our ancestors didnt have like we do now and that education is so very important and this 11 year old didnt know the different between 8 or 6 cups of flour
absolutely detrimental to those children..they may be happy but i can guarantee with parents like that they wont have successful careers they wont have the joy of knowledge and intelligence
She’s the kind of lady who blames misspelled words on her pencil.
Actually that’s probably not the best example considering she doesn’t care about needing to write...
this makes actual homeschooled kids look bad...
I am homeschool and i am really good at math and reading so I am learning a lot this year I am in 9th grade
@@loner3435 yes my BF and his whole family were homeschooled and they are the most self confident and intelligent people I know.
@@_hana_river_ I hope you have a great night 😄🙋🖐
As a public school graduate, all the homeschool students I've ever met are definitely smarter and overall better than these cavemen unstudents.
@@polrealfake true
These kids won't stay young and cute forever. They'll grow into teens and then adults who don't know how to cope with being told "no." In real life, there are boundaries. These kids haven't learned any of them.
I rarely say this, but these kids are NOT cute. They are wild, and not in a good way. I'm all for letting children explore their own interests, all for learning thru play, but children don't know what they need to know.
That is just your opinion. I think they are cute and they are thinking for themselves not learning to believe whatever comes from a Teacher's mouth to be taken for complete truth. Books are the same, who wrote them and who knows all this information. Do you really believe it's all the truth? Well, most people believe what they've learned in school and the parents believe it all too. Brainwashing going on for a long time. So you think they are wild, so what, you have obviously been very stifled and controlled and need others to be too!
MyNevaeh...Many ignorant people on here. You seem so jealous like most here it's just sad. What kind of person are you to wish so much harm on people you don't even know. Wow!
Casandra 1234
Your argument is very invalid to your point. What everyone is trying to say is that these kids will grow up to not know the rules and regulations that real life gives since they have been acting like that. I mean, I'm all for creative thinking, but you got to think about their future. How will they survive? If they were raised to be happy, how will they be able to cope with the sadness real life gives? Questions like that are what you should be thinking about.
Resabout B. Yeah I do believe getting told no isn't necessary. Just don't provide them with much, aside of a loving environment. Cause of you don't provide with much, but also teach them what their opportunities are or take them on trips, they will get tired of the home and seek a path.
This is unbelievably lazy. She said "they may begin to sneak things." ...okay....then you teach them that's wrong.
Poor babies.
Yea I don't understand that mentality. So give them whatever they want or they'll steal it? How is that giving them any sort of life lesson? They're not going to get everything they want in life and that lesson has to be learned young.
That hyper wildness is a cry for some structure, discipline, and love.
“Why can’t it be a yes?” Because learning how to handle being told no is a big lesson kids need to learn. They need to understand you don’t always get what you want and how to move past it.
What about when a girl says no when he’s 18? Well momma taught me I get whatever I want so...
Especially in the real world!! So if that boy is told by a girl “no you can’t kiss me” he’s being taught he can! That’s so irresponsible and SCARY
@@LaceyTripp95 yes! I've also been wondering this. You can't just do whatever the heck u want and expect that saying "well why can't it be yes" is gonna justify what you've done
Yeah the thought of these kids as adults is terrifying
I agree 💯
“What did you learn today”
“I learned not to stand at the top of the mountain”
I’m pretty sure I’ve known that since I was 2...
I was today years old when I learned that lol
Ikr, I remember how I learned sandstone was a soft rock, I stood on a cliff made of sandstone and it broke beneath my feet lol. But I can’t believe the 11 year old can barely even multiply
I want to know what he learned that taught him that. He might have actually remembered something. Maybe that the air on top of a mountain is closer to space so is farther from earth's gravity and thus the air is not as condensed and there are so few oxygen molecules up there that standing on top of a mountain without equipment could knock you out and even cause permanent brain damage?
BTW, that's something I did not learn in school!
These poor kids are lacking in their speech already.
I couldn't help but notice the 11 year old's voice. He doesn't pronounce his "r"s. Normally, a speech pathologist would work with him on that, but if he doesn't go to school...
It's just so sad.
Oh yeah, I heard that speech impediment as clear as day.
I can see how this would work, especially for a creative job in the future, but at least teach them a little bit, so they collect it slowly?
@@pink-roses-and-scarlet-skies I don't see a problem with being different why do we all need to talk the same? We can understand him that's all we need
@@sugarrollz3524 there's nothing wrong with being different but if his cognitive abilities are being stunted due to his parent's choices e.g. his ability to talk properly then that is cause for concern. He is clearly not being educated correctly or getting proper socialization.
"I just want them to be happy" is the #1 excuse for bad parenting
this was almost 10 years ago, I need to see a "where are they now" episode.
probably still living at home or on the streets :/
Probably still can't read or write and thinks 4+3 is 43.
All of those kids probably have emotional issues and resentment towards their parents.
Trump supporters obviously 🙄
@@miarawks how do you know
No one is going to hire them ever.
McDonald’s
Nothing but the fast food industry. And that pays zilch.
"WElcoME to (Fast food place) Can i take your orDER"
MEWANTSACOOKIE not even McDonald's would hire them; you have to know basic math skills and also show up on time. You have to do things you don't want to do and take your break only when allowed to. These kids have no concept of any of these BASIC ideas
Irma Gherd Its also obvious they don't listen much ..when the guy tried quizzing them the girls response said it all...
I get it. School sucks. But if I didnt have school, I wouldn't have friends. I wouldn't have a purpose. All I do when I'm not at school is sit at home. That doesn't mean I necessarily want to go to Algebra 2. But some of the classes I take, like Human Body Systems and Biomedical Sciences, are very interesting and I actually look forward to them. Those kids cannot be anything they want. They cant be any type of doctor or lawyer or basically anything high paying and academically requiring (which is basically every job). Because they dont have the schooling. If that kid wants to be a doctor, he needs at LEAST a GED, college, medical school, AND residency. But wait, hows he gonna get a GED if he doesnt know 8x7? She is destroying so many options by not sending her kids to school.
Wait that isn't very fair. I go to school and only have one friend
Got my GED in 10th grade through a adult ED and went to work. I now make 85k a year as a welding supervisor at a navy ship yard. People are lazy now and that’s all their is to it. The don’t work because they don’t want to not because they can’t and they laugh at manual labor jobs. Now I get to sit back and laugh at the idiots that were straight A students all through school and are now in major debt from useless collage and working $12-$15 hour jobs because they can’t find work in the useless subject they went to school for. It’s a joke and people need to get off their ass and work
what is "he needs at LEAST a GED"? sik p'opl'needs at LEAST kollig. yanks = sikniss.
@@vorpalweapon4814
Better than just siblings
IT doesn't matter because shes probably anti vax and doesn't believe in doctors either :P
If you didn't notice, the oldest has a speech impediment. Signs are there, this could be hurting them in the long run
There are people who literally sacrifice their lives so that their kids might have a chance to go to school. And yet, in the land where school is free for everyone, there are kids who will never learn about the world...
@Kit Kat wow that's a cool story. And that's so true. People always complain about school but they dont realise how lucky they are.
She just ruined all those children’s lives
Brandon Beesley welll not rly... they are all actually doing very well ! devon is a carpenter and metalworker, tiff is a model and ivy and orion are still teens
Meaning they lack social skills and having friends and things kids experience going to school....if u don’t count bullying lol
Marshmallow Marsh he doesn’t lol
Luckylarry911 silverstein ...you really.... don’t know anything about the industry do you ?
Marshmallow Marsh they’re still being documented to this day
Girl: “BAAAA-NIIIIES!!!”
Other girl: **swinging head around while dad is using hammer**
Me: “Yeah they are definitely going somewhere in life...”
These kids will grow up and realize, they don’t know anything. They’ll meet other kids their age that complain of long hours of homework, they’ll feel happy they didn’t experience that, until they realize that their friends doing the work are the ones with jobs. What kind of employer would hire a teen, or adult who never went to school? What college?
lovely stars seriously!! I guess they will live with their mom for the rest at of their lives!
How do you know what they know? Do you now them?
Why am I Alive
They may know how to read but do you think they understand "PEMDAS"?Can they solve a division problem with large numbers without a calculator? Do they know why tree's are green or all the eight planets? I doubt it
I'd love to take criticism but I don't know if I can take something from someone with a roblox profile picture
I doubt it.
Umm I highly doubt that .
she seems like the kind of mum who still breastfeeds her 11 year old
Oop
Next you're gonna tell me her husband is also her cousin
scarlett evie She seems like the kind of mom that sells her own breastmilk and makes bread with it
Oof
@@seppemanderick497 that's not fair you can't just judge people like that
I personally find this disgusting. Knowing basic math is crucial in the "real world". Not exposing your children to discipline is a type of child abuse and causes mental problems later on. Sleep schedules are very important and not having them will be a problem in later jobs. I pray that God will help these children. So sad..
whilst i agree on the discipline and maths, new research suggests humans naturally have different sleep patterns and forcing teens to sleep earlier (and wake up earlier) then there natural body clock needs reduces sleep quality
I’ve met adults that grew up without rules and they are frustrated people. One was my former neighbor nice enough person but just didn’t understand rules. He got evicted from his apartment because he thought he didn’t have to follow basic guidelines and couldn’t cope. It’s a disservice to the children. I’m all for kids being kids and enjoying themselves and learning on their own but there has to be some sense of order or else they grow up to be lost as adults.
Maya Strizheus
You’re absolutely correct. However, I feel that this was a bad example of unschooling. The articles I’ve read could be sugar coating it, of course, but I still plan to unschool my children. What they need to know is how to do taxes, write checks, etc., they don’t need to know half of what is covered in public school math. If my child were exposed to the appropriate amount of careers (as I really hope the children shown in this video are) and for example one wanted to pursue architecture, he or she should absolutely learn the math and skills to later pursue that. This house does seem chaotic, though, and for the most part they don’t really seem to be learning... this could be done better. My point is, unschooling could still be done successfully.
What do u mean? I never went to school. Even though im 22 and never had a job, I think I'm fine
PJ's Games
How do you survive financially? 🤔
“So what did you learn?”
*“I learnt not to stand on the top of a mountain”*
He's gonna miss out on some beautiful scenic views
Those aren't parents those are disappointments
Toaster Man you said it...very much my philosophy
Can you do an update in 15 years please
This video was made in 2010
@@briannac2231 ok in 6 years then 🙄
The mother has a blog..
@@katzlevyalon can you tell me how to get to it? Like a link or something plz?
@@JP.-_-. actually 9 years oops look who did not pay attention in school
I was unschooled. It's not a good idea :/ stick with homeschool or public school! I thought unschooling was fun when I was little, but now I'm 18. If my friends have me their homework, I'd just stare at it and not know what the hell to do! I'm very fortunate to be somewhat talented, and to be able to make and sell sculptures. But if I end up not being able to support myself financially, I'm gonna have to get an actual job, and it probably won't be easy. :/
I just clicked on your channel. Your sculptures are lovely! :)
Thank you! ^-^
I agree, your sculptures are beautiful! I think the best thing you can look at right now is setting up a website and starting a small business sculpting people's pets.
Thank you!! I started doing that in January last year! It's going pretty good so far! :)
Omg, can I have a link? I love your sculptures! You could easily go on shark tank eventually!
I need an update, they are now 21, 18, 15, and 12. What is interesting is that I'm 22, so I want to know how the 11 year is doing now
“About 8-6 cups of flour” well this is just depressing
CutieclemsANIMATIONS A major 🚩
He's counting backwards, because they're parenting backwards
I thought the same thing!!
You couldve caught that kid on anything but you chose that, he slipped up and said the numbers backwards, lmao like you cant make slip ups like that
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Unschooled Boy: "About 8 to 6 cups of flour"....yeah you can tell hes never had a basic math lesson haha
netherwarper its intellectual abuse
Lol best comment
I had to go back and watch 🤣🤣
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Poor kids
Wow, they aren't even teaching them the basic skill to delay gratification at all, which is an insanely important need for everyone to function in society. You have to compromise and not demand everything you want instantly to get by. But I guess that's too abstract a thought for these parents.
In an absolutely perfect world no one would have to learn or do anything they weren't interested in but I agree that this isn't conductive to their long-term happiness. I don't have a bad opinion of the parents, though. I respect their out of the box thinking. I'd like it if a lot of the attitudes about childhood and life and society were radically changed on widescale. It doesn't seem like the long-term consequences of this, in some cases, are necessarily as bad as I immediately assumed. If I had children I would want to raise them with a balance between the kind of freedom they have and structure, rules, learning to delay instant gratification and non-violent discipline.
Steph T right? Calling their desires ‘needs’ 😳😤😢
@@cleocole493
You only 'need' something relative to a specific goal. The experienced frustration of our desires is inherently painful, if their desires aren't satisfied they will suffer as a result ('suffer' might sound dramatic to most people but they will experience distress as a result). I don't remember what the mother or the parents said and I agree that they should consider their children's long-term needs but it's not unimportant that children be free to play and engage in engage in activity that is interesting and fun. It's not trivial whether or not they feel bored with their lives at any given moment.
An X shut up
An X your privilege is boring and uncouth
Comments: "she" "the mom"
This isn't a single parent house hold. BOTH parents are responsible here
Exactly!
Atleast teach them manners and basic maths and English so they have some hope of a future
That’s barely enough. How will they got jobs? Will they be successful in the future? Most likely not bc in life you have to work. Sure there is the government that can pay but you need an excuse.
Kids need structure & discipline. They're not going to have basic education & they wont be able to cope as adults.
Yh this somehow feels like we are creating a different kid of human beings, that aren't exactly at the very top. Sorry if it sounds like an insult but its true. Instead of being at the top, we would have two types, one that is the logical and more superior, and another that lacks required intelligence and is inferior. This world...
This video is obviously satire
These kids might do better in the work force with a bit more rules though. They will be more self confident and sure if themselves probably better leaders not waiting for someone to say what they should do...... hopefully. Like I said though some more rules where parents get final say would be important
_”8-6 Cups of Flour”_
*WHAT THE HELL*
Edit: no offense to the kid,i just meant as a joke. stop the shade y’all
Yeah, I don't think they have a basic understanding of numbers.
Depends man, that is a lot of flour maybe yes but if its sorta bulk production like enough for whole family could need 6-8 cups.hell I work in bakery where we make 20 kilo doughs each day
Alex yu- I think you missed his point. Normally people with even the most basic math skills would say “6-8 cups of flour”, NOT “8-6 cups...”. The kid may not really understand math at all, is our fear.
detorie wyn they claimed to have taught math
So what?! Might have been nerves! I do that sometimes...
Her answer "do you think it's necessary?" To learn about history and government?
YES IF THEY INTEND TO VOTE YES!!!!
The parents just seem lazy to me. I get it. 4 kids to school everyday is hard. But they're doing a disservice to their children.
I would never forgive my parents if this is how they brought me up. Many people as saying there are many people without degrees that are so successful. Yes this maybe true but how many successful people do you hear of that haven't even been though a primary or secondary school education. This mother is setting the up for failure as how many employers are there that are willing to hire someone who hasn't been taught basic maths or are ignorant to many aspects of life. Not only this but they are almost depriving the children in experiences. Making friends are limited due to the lack of opportunity to do so as well has having a hard time relating. Additionally, where is the resilience that learn from having to soldier through hard times such as exams. Send your kids to school it allows more opportunities in life and it will be much easier when they are older. They might come to resent you if you deprive them of this.
Just out of curiosity, how much of any exam you took in high school do you still remember today? How much of those subjects you hated and were forced to 'learn' do you use in your job today? Going to guess that your answer, like most if they are being honest, is near zero. The reality is people dont need more than a 4th grade education to thrive in society.
For the most part school isnt about learning. Its about memorization. How many college educated idiots have you come across in your life? More than a few right? And those idiots arent idiots because they have bad memories. They are idiots because they dont have any common sense.
The most important thing a child can learn is how money works. Learning that money is more than just something to spend is one of the most important lessons anyone can learn in life and yet most people dont get taught in school anything about money.
So, after all that has been typed here, how useful is school really?
In England every single employer asks for a English and Maths GCSE. Some stuff taught in schools is completely pointless, but as far as maths and English go, they are not.
Yeah Same me too i thought my parents failed me for not making me learn to ride a bike or tie my shoes but this is crazh
Yeah Same sometimes school is a bad environment for learning and making friends. Many kids get bullied in school. In school, you are forced to learn things you have no interest in and end up forgetting anyway. Almost every student in school ends up hating learning and reading by the time they graduate, and so they never choose to read outside of what's required for school. The friends made are often very fake and only continue the friendship for selfish reasons like using people for popularity. How many of our high school friends still keep in touch now that we're adults? Probably not many. Just shows how shallow those friendships were. Kids can be socialized without school. Compulsory school didn't exist forever in human history, and yet humans still managed to socialize just fine. They also managed to learn just fine too. Otherwise we wouldn't still exist as a species.
Yeah Same and plus most of the people who try to live like that dont make it its so few that do.
Holy shit, I feel SO bad for the kids. God help them.
But they are learning through what they love
Olivia Grace they really aren’t learning...
Most jobs require at least a high school diploma including several part time jobs
Olivia Irick yeah they don’t check that
so true how can they just ignore thaat?
You can easily create a home school diploma, at least in WA. Plus they are easy to forge
Even mcdonalds would reject thaere application
@@Mzmerz123 but what is that teaching them on how to survive now a days?
As someone who hates school with a passion this is messed up
*i learned to not stand on a mountain*
*His mom: I'm so proud*
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Me after school taking my socks off is your profile pic lol
LOL...😂 At least he has common sense....
Lol
She’s doing more hurt than help. They won’t understand social structures, basic math, basic english, etc. Rules of the jungle, eat or be eaten. An adult should know better than a child, that's why they're in charge. This woman is insane.
mads yup. Its clear they already have trouble. The way the girl answered the guy when he was quizzing them about what he just taught was rude. She has not been taught an ounce of respect.
Even if they learn what they need to learn somehow, the social structures thing is important to know. How are they going to function in a basic minimum wage job if they've never been taught what it means to obey your boss? And she says in regards to algebra that people aren't all on this planet to do the same thing, but the thing about kids is they don't know what they'll need later in life and need to be equipped with the basics to get them into anything they might want to pursue. If one kid doesn't like algebra today, that doesn't mean he won't want to work a job that needs it down the line, but he won't have the basics at that point and it'll be much harder to learn.
mads - agree 100%. Imho, she is abusing her children. I think what gets me is her superiority and her subtle smugness. I've been working with children for 40 years in one way or another - made mistakes and also had victories. But this woman is cracked.
Not everybody "uses" algebra, true, but algebra also helps you learn to think critically. It is a brain-trainer. This woman is preventing her children from having the opportunity to improve their lives - to improve themselves and their circumstances.
These children will not really need to fear being murdered in their lives, because LIFE ITSELF will rise up... and kill her children. The woman is practising virtual abortion After birth. And she is denying the existence... of her children.
MegaKaitouKID1412 - exactly - you've said it all. Yes.
Ashley Hold - exactly. ... I just realized... the woman is unknowingly preparing her children... for a life of crime.
I am a year and a half away from graduating, starting my life. Getting a degree. I would NEVER forgive my family for holding me back from school. School may be hard and annoying, but it is VITAL. "I like being free and doing whatever I want." Kid, THATS NOT REAL LIFE. Someone stop these people from becoming parents.
Kaeli H your parents just helped you be a good slave for the machine. I was a good slave for 20 years. I'd rather have been homeschool been my own boss with my own schedule. I don't know so much about unSchool I think it's just a way to go after homeschool parents who raise amazing kids outside of the public fool system. They are happy doing whatever the hell they want and noone ever had to tell them ANYTHING. But it's ok to tell a kid they are a girl and to cut their penis off..cuz...they "feel" like it
mary sunshine I never said anything against homeschooling. That's completely 100% fine. But no school? That's not fine at all. Do NOT call me a slave, that's completely disrespectful. I am my own person with my own opinions.
mary sunshine My friend was homeschooled. Now he's 23, I'm his only friend and he never knew how to fit in or be social with other people his age. He's not an only child either. He has a sibling that's 2 years younger than him. He is very anti-social. Yeah public schooling need some changes but being homeschooled and not learning math, English, critical thinking, and the other basics will fuck these kids up.
catlover r I went to school all 13 years and it never did me any good socially. And you don't even sound like a good friend the way you are judging this person.
Kaeli H agreed
“About 8 to 6 cups of flour”
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This is so selfish on so many levels.
MaryJane Blues - even sending them to school requires minimal effort. u just dump them there, teachers teach, they get food, friends, breaks and in some cases counselling and life lessons. there’s no reason why they shouldn’t send them to school.
i edited this for clarity. if you wanna debate, talk about these points bc that’s essentially what i’m saying. i’m in NO WAY supporting free range upbringing like a lot of you interpret me to be. i’ll only bother replying from now if you’re gonna actually use these points. responded enough and barely any of you will listen to my explanation. ta 😚
lil egg no, you have to prepare them for the next school day helping them with hw, making sure they’re engaged in their classes, have all the things they need, getting up early each morning, picking them up after a long day, and actually paying in some way for their education and not hoarding all the money for themselves. So sending kids to school is not “lazy” for the vast majority of parents, it’s cause they actually care about the kids future rather than let their child do whatever they want bc they’re scared to tell them no
@@bobsburgers8497 - ngl it's still minimal effort especially when the kids grow up. that's what i'm saying, you don't need to spend that much effort to send your child to an actual school. if you didn't realise, i'm still actually criticising those parents because it doesn't take much effort really for them to have their kids live a normal life when they're already doing some of the things you said.
lil egg how the hell is sending your kids to school lazy? Parents work when their kids are at school. And I can tell you if they do after school activities like sports or band then they have to work way harder. Parents have to make sure their kids homework gets done, make sure they are in bed on time and wake up on time, and most parents help kids study for tests. They are preparing them for life, that isn’t lazy.
What is lazy is what these parents are doing. It’s negligent and harmful.
RayTheGay - bruh stop wasting time commenting if you ain’t gonna read my explanations
Child neglect?
Those kids have a huge disadvantage in the real world without a diploma... all because their mother doesn't feel like teaching them..
Wow thanks for the likes I never had this many before
Children should have the opportunity to enter college when they're of age. These poor kids are screwed. These parents could teach their kids the school stuff they really do need to know, while structuring the day in a way that best fits each kid. This is child neglect.
Seriously these kids wont even be able to pass the remedial math/English at community college let alone get a degree. They are stuck to a life of low level blue collar work whether they like it or not.
@@coffeeonthemoon college can be just as much about learning about the world around you as the diploma at the end.
And in rare cases a diploma doesn't matter. Generally, those with a diploma do much better in the job market and in pretty much all other categories that statistions measure.
Without my diploma I wouldn't be able to have nearly the quality of life I have now. I get to work my dream job and I am a much smarter person than before I went to college.
@@coffeeonthemoon tell that to all the jobs that require a diploma or higher education idk how they can even get their GED and go to college if they want to be something like a doctor etc
Its gonna hard for them to provide for their kids🤷♀️😭
College isn’t for everyone
Shop cashier: that'll be 6 dollars please.
Kid:I don't know what dollars are...
Lmao
or how many 6 is
Lamo
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I dont know what 6 is
It's been 14 years since this vid was posted. I'd love to see an update on these now young adults
This is literally child abuse, they let him wear a fedora!
Rawa Serwan he's a cool dude me lady
He wants to pursue being a brony
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Your an idiot
So fuckin what thats cute
I guess I still don’t understand how this is legal...
The amish do it all the time
Honestly
In my country it's illegal to not have your child be schooled at the age of 6 years old. And i live in a 3rd world country as YOU might say 🙄🇹🇳
That would be cruel I feel it was illegal for tribal families and kids too
In some states have no homeschooling regulations so parents can notify a school that they are homeschooled and the school has to take their word with no proof