What D&D Alignment is Ford Pines? (Gravity Falls)
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- Опубликовано: 19 авг 2024
- Today we're looking at Standford "Ford" Pines, part 1 of 3 of our look into Gravity Falls!
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I’d argue that sacrificing his brother and cleverly tricking Bill into dealing with Stan was Lawful Good. Sacrificing a loved one for ‘the greater good’ mixed with all that lawyer goodness of ‘you didn’t check the fine print’ as I deceived you.
I would definitely watch a video speculating on Rick and Stanford's adventures. Or even just a video going into what's been made cannon thru the crossover comics
I know for sure the journal or something was made Canon in one of the first season episodes of Rick and Morty, think it was the megaseed episode for the season one finale of Rick and Morty brief cameo as the journal comes out of one of the portals in the back ground.
I'm starting to think that the reason Ford wouldn't be able to get back to his dimension using Rick's portal gun is that the dimension that Gravity Falls takes place in is outside the Central Finite Curve, and the portal that Bill and Ford built was capable of crossing the border of it.
Same
When i noticed that Dipper thought about "crossing his legs", i thought that maybe he just forgot to close his fly. then i realized he had none.
He was thinking about Wendy in that red bathing suit
Anyone who makes a GIANT HOUSE MECH is lawful AWESOME!
Chaotic awesome*
@@blackrapier713 True Awesome
Ford wasn’t actually there when they made it.
7:59 I never realized how big the shack actually is because we see so few of the rooms being used. I really should have realized that all the attractions have to be somewhere
I'd love to see your Ford and Rick theory video!
Yes, same!
I’m really interested in seeing it.
same
Same and also make a fanfic about their adventures.
Same
Pleaseeee I'd die to see it
There are stories in the journal 3 physical book. This gives many tale of his travels, most weird universe hopping.
Yeah they could of used some of that stuff
Your profile pic genuinely messed with me for a moment, I didn't remember leaving a comment here 5 days ago...
@@bray2964 haha
In regard to the Stan and Rick video, I will simply quote the floating heads from the episode Get Schwifty: “SHOW ME WHAT YOU GOT!”
8:26, this reminds me of a time where i did this exact same thing in DnD, basically i was an annoying chaotic good bard, and i kid you not!, my teammates legit disliked me, found me annoying, and weird, because of my character haha, one game they were gonna try and save duke from this evil necromancer skeleton guy, but they didnt wanted me to get involved so trough some persuasion they sent my character to find some magic item in a nearby dungeon that apparently could dispel all types of magic or something, idk it would make an anti magic field or something, me deciding to play along, (cause i thought they would die XD) went to the dungeon with a companion barbarian we had, and yup! just like in the show, when they were totally fucked and about to all die, hehe well well well "how the turntables" i come back with said magic item! and yup.... from that day on my team began being far more tolerable of me and my shenanigans hahaha, they were more than happy to have me save them all, how did i found the item? well the DM felt bad for me since i was basically gonna miss big story moment so he decided to let me just get the item even though that dungeon i went trough was supposed to be already looted, so yea, some fake dice rolls here and there and voila
imma tell you my joy (and contained laughter) as i came to them with this item as i vividly screamed "I AM THE MASTER OF DUNGEONS!!!" was awesome, just seeing their faces of disbelief and relief as they saw me come to their rescue was priceless
i find chaotic or weird people/characters very enjoyable they're just so fun and funny probably why i like Bill so much
@@spiritsofwolves I too like PCs who are comedicly weird, but who are also intrensicly motivated to to the heroic thing.
A.K.A. chotic good
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P.S. Going on the quest to support your friends who want to go on the quest even if you think the reward is lackluster, or don't really care about the people your on the quest to save, (apart from caring that your friends care,) is also a decent motivation.
while they've definitely encountered each other, i honestly kind of doubt that ford and rick would have actually gotten _along_ when they met
on the one hand, ford 100% enjoys the company of people who are "on his level", which rick qualifies as more than most characters could, and he's certainly not a completely saintly guy by any means, but rick's more of an outwardly crass and apathetic ass while ford is, while often oblivious and even callous at times to the interpersonal implications and consequences of his actions, ultimately extremely dedicated to the greater good - ford has spent most of his life dead-set on stopping bill and is just as strongly so even as a jaded older gent, and i don't think he'd settle with just getting out of dodge by leaving his dimension and finding another one, even though earth is _tiny_ in the scope of what he must have seen in his lifetime, especially if he knew rick much at all.
their characters have a lot in common in terms of being scientists, interdimensional fugitives, and grand-somethings to the young protagonists, but in terms of who they are as people and morals, i feel like they're almost total opposites to the point they'd probably not get along well. remember how ford becomes ashamed and chews out stan the moment he realizes there were children around when he fought him after getting out of the portal ? from that alone, i can't imagine he'd really enjoy hanging around rick with the way he acts around morty.
the two have 100% met each other and i bet that their history would make an incredibly fun story in itself, but looking at them as people i kind of get the feeling they wouldn't make as good friends as most of the fanart of them tends to depict
I totally agree.
Great video ! The thing with Ford, most of the nuances to his character are brough by journal 3, which is canon-ish as Alex Hirsh often says. I would argue some of his decisions are soooo unethical, because of how task oriented he can be. That and killing your brother for the greater good, really feels more Lawful then anything else. Also, I believe the Stans are like 57-58.
Stanley says he's pushing 70 in one of the later episodes, s2e17, I think
I think it's definitely important to note exactly why Ford was mad at Stan for saving him. Turning on the portal, and even Ford's presence, are an immense danger to the town and the world. Ford was mad that Stan would risk all of that just to save him. Definitely a Chaotic Good moment.
I wonder when Ford was hanging out with Rick and Morty, did Evil Maybel team up with Evil Morty. Of, Couse these two characters would back stab one other. Which is probably the reason why Evil Maybel was stuck in the void of Maybels.
"Give a child a weapon, to hunt for unicorns hair." Out of context, that sounds super irresponsible.
Gravity falls, Rick and Morty, Amphibia and the owl house are all in the same Multiverse
those bastard corporations are holding back what could truly be the next MCU
My prediction is that both Stans are Chaotic Good with Bill being Chaotic Evil. I think Stan and Bill are pretty set in stone, but I could see Ford being any variation of Good
*chanting* Ford and Rick Ford and Rick Ford and Rick
OH, they can do a Rick n Morty Stanford pines comic crossover series with the IDW guys, Hersh and Royland can oversee the whole thing and it can be its own thing. For whatever reason, comics have a heck of a grey area when it comes to that kind of thing
Artificer that accidentally became warlock. And betrayed the pact.
Everyone can call it now Bill will one hundred percent be chaotic evil.
whaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Mabel is chaotic evil leaning chaotic neutral.
Ford Pines is a Noble version of Rick Sanchez because he just didn't have that 1 bad day at his highest point.
Oh! It just ocurred to me that you, by mentioning that this is part of a trilogy, may now be pressured to make alignment videos about characters from The Owl House and Amphibia.
Love doing this when The Character who's a fan of "A D&D" :P
can we just admire the fact that Dipper and Ford beat the DM which is considered Impossible
I’d love to watch a video about your speculation of Ford’s multiverse adventures with Rick
Awesome video ! Ford is my favorite character in Gravity Falls so this is really cool to see. 😄
I'm fine with Stan's memories miraculously coming back since I had already seen the alternative in the show Chuck.
I am glad you're not making a video about Mabel. There were enough people denouncing her as the villain in their time already.
I hal expected you to include the three Spider-men in your trilogies.
>a video about how the Rick & Ford relationship went
Yes, please!
you knwo i LOVE that you make sure no matter how the money is given to you (via twitch patiton or youtube) you give them those videos thanks :) i can't afford to sub BUT i wanted to say well done for doing it like that
Rick and Stanford Adventures! Heck ya, I'm all for it!
If I remember right the journal n3 merch thing that they sold had info about fords escapades theoughout the multiverse
I want that Ford and Rick video, that's a DEEP topic, something that you could easily fill a half hour if not more.
I believe Dipper was Not playing by himself, technically he was playing with the goat....
I personally would love to see that speculation video.
My fiance on the other hand, who loves Gravity Falls but despises Rick and Morty, was less than thrilled by all the mentions of Rick haha - so maybe I'll watch that one alone.
Rick and stan adventures video ftw
I'd love the Rick and Stanford video
Perhaps call it the
*"Rick and Stanford Files"* ?
Ford/Rick speculation video would be fascinating to see!
Calling it right now, Bill Cypher is chaotic evil.
The Ford and rick video sounds dope
so the Ford versus Rick and Ford and Rick Adventure special speculations sound like great videos to me :-)
I absolutely would love to see that speculation vídeo!
I'd be down for a Pines/Sanchez lore video!
Ford actually details a few of his non-rick and morty involved adventures in journal 3 once he gets back, they're in the back past dipper's section
I sooooo want that rick and stanford adventure video!!!
I want a video speculating the R&M+GF’s lore! Do it! Do it, do it, do it, do it!!!!!
I know you aren't doing alignment videos anymore, but the comparison between Ford and Rick was genuinely interesting, I'm still getting used to your other videos, but from what I've seen, you're a very good creator with interesting things to say, keep it up.
I absolutely want your theories on multiverse adventures locked behind corporate politics.
I was going to say that Bill should be Chaotic Evil, but his deals all reek of Lawful Evil, so now I'm wondering if they will balance out to Neutral Evil or if either side will tip the scales.
LOVED the intro! I think it’s my favorite so far. (Literally paused to say so, lol.)
Yeah, I definitely would like to check out your theories involving Ford’s missing adventures if you do end up making one.
Also a comparison vid might be fun to watch
I'd love to watch the ford/rick video no doubt!
journal 3 gives insight into his travles intoyhe multiverse
Pretty good video, though I will say that while all of his big actions are 'good,' his smaller character moments really help show how somebody who's more dedicated to a greater good can still cause some major issues. For instance, what ends up finally setting off the fight is Ford correcting Stan's grammar RIGHT AFTER they finally got him to join yhe circle. A petty thing for Stan to pick a fight for, but at the same time, that is NOT the time for being a Geammar Nazi.
Personally, I’d argue that ford is meant to be the lawful neutral to stans chaotic good
So I’d never even heard of gravity falls until now.
How about a joke video for all of Mabel's crushes?
I would definitely like to see a comparison video or an adventure speculation video for Rick and Ford. Good job on this video 😁
Before watching the video:
Chaotic good, chaotic Evil, chaotic neutral?
HA! Technically correct! The BEST kind of correct! Also, forgot to mention i put it in the order as the graphic in the vid. That being Ford, Bill, Stan
I genuinely enjoyed this vid. It was fun even if I've never fully seen the series past season 2. I am looking forward to the Rick and Stan video essay. Have a great day guys and thanks for another awesome video 😁
Lore! Gravity Falls Lore!?
yes, please.
That would be an interesting thing to hear your speculation. I've not seen the series but I do love hearing the solid analysis of this series.
you should watch it it's great
I definitely want to see what you piece together.
Will continue to support the videos until this series ends
I’d love to see that Rick ford vid!
I don't care if they are interesting or not, Dipper and Mabel deserve proper analysis
If they look at the townsfolk of stardew valley, that will be another trilogy.
Pretty much Chaotic Good or Neutral Good.
I'd see Stanford as a True Neutral/Chaotic Good(does what he think it's the best for humanity but sometimes not in the best way for people) and Stanley as Chatoic Neutral(follow his own ideals and does the best for his family)
ALLL THE SPECULATION is wanted!
Love how this show is getting so much attention again! It's just incredible! 😃
Never seen your videos before but this video is a +1 to subscribers (I am groaning at my own terrible joke). Would absolutely put a Ford v Rick video on repeat!
YOU ACTUAL GOT SOOS TO VOICE IN THIS????? AWESOME!!!
lol no. anthony being a chad voice actor
Also yes pls do the ford vs Rick too!
Journal 3 and Lost Legends show more of Ford's time in Gravity Falls, the Multiverse, and Glass Shard Beach.
"I'm not doing [insert characters here] because I just don't wanna"
Respectable. At least we all know your reasoning isn't "because it would make Twitter mad" lol
Please make the lore video, it sound really interesting.
Hopefully I get a ping for the theory video, sounds like a good one.
Ford vs Rick. Ford vs Rick! FORD VS RICK!!!
__Stanley Pines__
Race: Human
Class: Rogue
Alignment: Chaotic Good
Background: Charlatan
_Stats_
Str: 15 (+2)
Dex: 13 (+1)
Con: 11 (+0)
Int: 7 (-2)
Wis: 9 (-1)
Cha: 17 (+3)
__Stanford Pines__
Race: Human
Class: Artificer
Alignment: Chaotic Good
Background: Haunted One
_Stats_
Str: 8 (-1)
Dex: 12 (+1)
Con: 10 (+0)
Int: 18 (+4)
Wis: 10 (+0)
Cha: 8 (-1)
Hey when Stranger things season 4 act 2 comes out and finishes can you do Hopper, Steve and 11. Idk but I like this trilogy idea and I feel those 3 characters have the deepest character arcs in the show
I would definitely love to hear the speculation on Rick and Stanford!
6:04 i agree with that
Would definitely be cool to see what your theory on the adventures with Rick would be
FANFIC! FANFIC! FANFIC!
(I want the rickford special!)
Dipper and Mabel are true neutral and chaotic neutral respectively imo. They have empathy and are generally ethics-minded, but most of their behavior is motivated by self interest rather than altruism.
4:00 if you make the vid you can always make alignment addendums in it
I read the entirety of Journal 3.
I know exactly what Ford did AND Dipper's real name
Please, release that video! I’d love to hear it.
I really want to see the alignment of dinobot from beast Wars Transformers
Hey, the battlemaster fighter (Stan) didn't want to have his character practically die so he agreed with the wizard (Ford) to have his character come back.
We do want that video!!!
I have a couple requests, if you’re taking them:
Characters from Breath of the Wild/Age of Calamity (if you can’t do all of them, at least do Link, Zelda, and the Champions)
Characters from The Red Dragon Inn (a favorite game of mine, Slugfest Games even has little stories of their adventures on their website). At the very least, the main six associated with RDI: Deirdre the Priestess, Fiona the Volatile, Gerki the Sneak, Zot the Wizard (and his rabid familiar, Pooky), Gog the Half-Ogre, and Eve the Illusionist.
Who wants to see a *Soos* Alignment video? Me for sure!
5:58 BASED AS HELL LETS GO
;)
@@TheLoadingCrew
Ah old Sixer
I would loe to see a video about mabel just to see how much chaotic evil stuff she does. But yeah, I get youu not wanting to do it
I'd love to see an alignment video on Dimitri Fire Emblem
Yes please I want to hear your thoughts on the rick adventures