What are your thoughts on Austin as a tech hub? Definitely doesn’t compare to the Bay Area as of rn, but I’m hearing that it’s experiencing a lot of growth
Respectfully, I don't understand how anyone intimately familiar with both locations could ever come away with this take from a data-driven perspective. Personal preferences are a different story, of course, but, average QoL is higher in Seattle across the board. I've only ever heard the Bay Area > Seattle argument from myopic, young tech bros with severely limited life experience outside of their career. Bay area dudes need some hobbies fr fr + they get no bitches. Gotta enjoy life a little rather than wasting away worrying about receiving a max TC offer letter from Meta with your one-note, copypasta resume boiler-plated by a washed FAANG coaster
I don't believe that, living in the bay area is very costly, not everyone can afford that. People also have to balance life with their friends / family and not everyone's parents live in bay area
For junior engineers I completely disagree, it’s convenient sure, but personally I learn the most in the office & I know I’m not the only junior engineer feeling like this.
@@darrellrayford3817 I’m a senior dev but I still learn tons every job. I just learned how to learn. How to use RUclips and Google and Pluralsight and look at templates that other ppl have made. The ability to unblock yourself. In general I don’t like the idea of limited to liberal azz cities like SF and California owning the tech world. Maybe you do an internship there…maybe you do put in 2-3yrs max but no one wants to raise a family there. Opposite morals and values and absolutely the opposite of family life. If your goal for your life is a legacy and family - to establish yourself - then no Silicone valley is definitely not the end goal - it’s just a dirty gas station along the way that you were forced to use bc you had to pee and it was either that or a tree in the woods.
@@jaredalbin5658, it's easy to mention resources like Google, RUclips, pluralsite, etc. But it remains easier to learn from other people physically. Physical works teach you a tons that remote wouldn't. I'm an advocate for hybrid.
I'm also a remote worker and I like it. Though I still live in a liberal area in the Midwest and we love our families too 😂 But my remote company pays more than my local market, is pretty remote-first, and I also know how to unblock myself as a senior swe. Not only is my family and partner here, but I love my lifestyle here, I get nature, good food, _and_ I can afford to buy a house! If I want different weather, I'll travel to it, because I can afford to.
Back to the office is about real estate investments, not productivity. The data doesn't lie, engineers are more productive working remotely. Anything else is hard to swallow. I can hop on a huddle with you in Slack much faster than I can walk to your office. People who think you can't build meaningful relationships remotely likely haven't tried to do so or haven't been part of a great team or work environment. I've worked on remote first teams and when people make collaboration and co-working intentional, it doesn't matter if you're in an office. Unfortunately, management is going to do what management wants to do, even if the data doesn't justify it.
@@RahulPandeyrkp wouldn't new graduates have zero experience in the office to base their opinion on vs remote? I've not met many engineers that would rather go into the office than work wherever they want, but that could be bias from being remote myself. I've worked in bay area tech for 5 years now and I can't think of anyone but management who wants to go back to the office. I'm sure they exist, but I don't see them. Typically, I see a complete disconnect from ELT and Management on RTO when compared to ICs.
From what I’ve experienced, the best part of in-office collaboration has been early on in new projects or early in tenure at a new company. It’s hard to onboard, learn a culture, and people’s work mannerisms without informal face to face time. These are important to build trust if say… your coworker that left your message on read isn’t ignoring you on purpose. If you are remote it also becomes harder to network and understand office politics (promotion decisions).
That being said though, if you work at a great company, using great tools, with a great online infrastructure built up these advantages of in person collaboration won’t hold as much weight, but just know if you are remote and the rest of your team is in-person there will be things/information you will inevitably miss out on. If you want to work remote you’ll be best off to find a completely remote team.
Hm. I'd say I'm far more productive working remote than I ever was in the office. And I have laughs and deep talks in 1 on 1 video calls all the time. So this video is kinda bs from my perspective
I don't think he touched on productivity at all in this video. His argument is that you might miss on informal talks/discussion that might lead you on to better opportunities in the future. For e.g. it's very hard for you to interact with people outside of your team if it's not for work-related purposes, whereas if you work in an office you might randomly meet another person from the company during breaks/lunch/etc. Ofc that's not to say that it's impossible pursue these interactions remotely. And everyone has their own priorities so what might seem important to someone else might not be for you and vice versa.
Great video, important thoughts no one is putting out there, and I agree 100%. I’m planning a UK > US transfer next year while working at Meta. Do you see Seattle being a important enough hub for the company to be worth being far from the HQ? I was thinking about going there due to the lower taxes, lower cost of living and the outdoor spaces. However, your video really made me consider going to MPK again :)
This clearly helps identify your prime locations for your next hunt. I kept Austin/Seattle as my first preference coz of no state income tax, although property tax in TX is higher, Austin is still LOCL compared to other cities. SF/NYC are no brainer. Relocating closer to HQ is still a great advice, and affirms my thought process. Question for Rahul: When do you see faang+ resuming their hiring? Or going full throttle?
"Finding opportunites that setup you up well for other opportunities" - Can you discuss how this applies within big companies? Like internally job hopping.
Mostly this comes from creating deeper relationships with your coworkers, which is best done in person. As they go off to join or start other companies, you'll be well-positioned to get unfair advantages for your next gig.
@@RahulPandeyrkp That's one way of looking at it. I'm coming from the perspective that job hopping internally is still job hopping, without taking a hit on your resume(for being a flake). Hypotehically, one can do this well where they hop from "new hot product" to "new hot product" and as a result always deliver massive impact. I would like to see a video discussing how to do this well. Regardless of company(MS, FB, Google, Amazon etc)
What if I’m able to live with my parents rent free while working remotely at FAANG. Is being in person worth the high COL (opportunity cost of investing the money)
Does being in that higher tax bracket and the general cost of living in the bay area actually mean you make less money than say 120K in a low cost area? Just wondering if you actually end up trading short-term financial well-being for long-term career success.
depends on the circumstances of course, but in general I think for young people you still end up ahead in the Bay Area. I talk about it a bit in this video: ruclips.net/video/gmL-yM1r_zo/видео.html
Any European recommendations ? Dublin and London for example ? What big tech companies would you recommend for starting a career with high chances of development as an engineer, salary and in terms of long term career growth if I assume that I’ll leave after 2-3 years
A Taro Premium member actually just shared his thoughts about the European tech market: www.jointaro.com/blog/a-comparison-of-european-tech-hubs-amsterdam-barcelona-and-london/
The information you provide is often useful, but I can't stand these cringy thumbnails. I see it a lot lately, seems like to squeeze views RUclipsrs went from fake clickbaits to cringy emotionality.
That's right. I would love to work from a beachfront condo in Florida where I pay 0 income tax, but the reality is that if I want to further my career and find new and better opportunities, I need to be where the action is, so to speak!!
We can all agree that the Bay Area >> Seattle in terms of quality of life, right?
What are your thoughts on Austin as a tech hub? Definitely doesn’t compare to the Bay Area as of rn, but I’m hearing that it’s experiencing a lot of growth
Is this a joke?
Respectfully, I don't understand how anyone intimately familiar with both locations could ever come away with this take from a data-driven perspective. Personal preferences are a different story, of course, but, average QoL is higher in Seattle across the board. I've only ever heard the Bay Area > Seattle argument from myopic, young tech bros with severely limited life experience outside of their career. Bay area dudes need some hobbies fr fr + they get no bitches. Gotta enjoy life a little rather than wasting away worrying about receiving a max TC offer letter from Meta with your one-note, copypasta resume boiler-plated by a washed FAANG coaster
No way, I won't live in a deserty looking place near a desert. I want lush greenery, rivers and lakes, rain and storms, snow.
I don't believe that, living in the bay area is very costly, not everyone can afford that. People also have to balance life with their friends / family and not everyone's parents live in bay area
It's less about whether or not you are remote and more to do with whether the company is truly remote-first. Not all corporate cultures are equal.
Remote life is waay better. Living near company benefits the company, not you.
For junior engineers I completely disagree, it’s convenient sure, but personally I learn the most in the office & I know I’m not the only junior engineer feeling like this.
@@darrellrayford3817 I’m a senior dev but I still learn tons every job. I just learned how to learn. How to use RUclips and Google and Pluralsight and look at templates that other ppl have made. The ability to unblock yourself.
In general I don’t like the idea of limited to liberal azz cities like SF and California owning the tech world. Maybe you do an internship there…maybe you do put in 2-3yrs max but no one wants to raise a family there. Opposite morals and values and absolutely the opposite of family life.
If your goal for your life is a legacy and family - to establish yourself - then no Silicone valley is definitely not the end goal - it’s just a dirty gas station along the way that you were forced to use bc you had to pee and it was either that or a tree in the woods.
@@jaredalbin5658, it's easy to mention resources like Google, RUclips, pluralsite, etc.
But it remains easier to learn from other people physically. Physical works teach you a tons that remote wouldn't. I'm an advocate for hybrid.
I'm also a remote worker and I like it. Though I still live in a liberal area in the Midwest and we love our families too 😂 But my remote company pays more than my local market, is pretty remote-first, and I also know how to unblock myself as a senior swe. Not only is my family and partner here, but I love my lifestyle here, I get nature, good food, _and_ I can afford to buy a house! If I want different weather, I'll travel to it, because I can afford to.
Back to the office is about real estate investments, not productivity. The data doesn't lie, engineers are more productive working remotely. Anything else is hard to swallow. I can hop on a huddle with you in Slack much faster than I can walk to your office.
People who think you can't build meaningful relationships remotely likely haven't tried to do so or haven't been part of a great team or work environment. I've worked on remote first teams and when people make collaboration and co-working intentional, it doesn't matter if you're in an office.
Unfortunately, management is going to do what management wants to do, even if the data doesn't justify it.
Almost all new grad engineers I've talked to prefer working in the office (and a good amount of more senior eng as well)
@@RahulPandeyrkp wouldn't new graduates have zero experience in the office to base their opinion on vs remote?
I've not met many engineers that would rather go into the office than work wherever they want, but that could be bias from being remote myself. I've worked in bay area tech for 5 years now and I can't think of anyone but management who wants to go back to the office. I'm sure they exist, but I don't see them. Typically, I see a complete disconnect from ELT and Management on RTO when compared to ICs.
From what I’ve experienced, the best part of in-office collaboration has been early on in new projects or early in tenure at a new company. It’s hard to onboard, learn a culture, and people’s work mannerisms without informal face to face time. These are important to build trust if say… your coworker that left your message on read isn’t ignoring you on purpose. If you are remote it also becomes harder to network and understand office politics (promotion decisions).
That being said though, if you work at a great company, using great tools, with a great online infrastructure built up these advantages of in person collaboration won’t hold as much weight, but just know if you are remote and the rest of your team is in-person there will be things/information you will inevitably miss out on. If you want to work remote you’ll be best off to find a completely remote team.
Hm. I'd say I'm far more productive working remote than I ever was in the office. And I have laughs and deep talks in 1 on 1 video calls all the time. So this video is kinda bs from my perspective
I don't think he touched on productivity at all in this video. His argument is that you might miss on informal talks/discussion that might lead you on to better opportunities in the future. For e.g. it's very hard for you to interact with people outside of your team if it's not for work-related purposes, whereas if you work in an office you might randomly meet another person from the company during breaks/lunch/etc.
Ofc that's not to say that it's impossible pursue these interactions remotely. And everyone has their own priorities so what might seem important to someone else might not be for you and vice versa.
Great video, important thoughts no one is putting out there, and I agree 100%. I’m planning a UK > US transfer next year while working at Meta. Do you see Seattle being a important enough hub for the company to be worth being far from the HQ? I was thinking about going there due to the lower taxes, lower cost of living and the outdoor spaces. However, your video really made me consider going to MPK again :)
Seattle is still good! I think it depends on the team though -- how much of your team/manager/director is also in Seattle?
This clearly helps identify your prime locations for your next hunt. I kept Austin/Seattle as my first preference coz of no state income tax, although property tax in TX is higher, Austin is still LOCL compared to other cities. SF/NYC are no brainer. Relocating closer to HQ is still a great advice, and affirms my thought process.
Question for Rahul: When do you see faang+ resuming their hiring? Or going full throttle?
Lot of people and companies fleeing the west coast. Austin or TX/FL in general will have better property value futures when you buy a home
I don't care about having the optimum career growth if it means giving up time with my family and living where I want to.
"Finding opportunites that setup you up well for other opportunities"
- Can you discuss how this applies within big companies? Like internally job hopping.
Mostly this comes from creating deeper relationships with your coworkers, which is best done in person. As they go off to join or start other companies, you'll be well-positioned to get unfair advantages for your next gig.
@@RahulPandeyrkp That's one way of looking at it.
I'm coming from the perspective that job hopping internally is still job hopping, without taking a hit on your resume(for being a flake).
Hypotehically, one can do this well where they hop from "new hot product" to "new hot product" and as a result always deliver massive impact. I would like to see a video discussing how to do this well. Regardless of company(MS, FB, Google, Amazon etc)
Your channel has the best thumbnails out of all the tech RUclipsrs I watch….idc how cringey people say they are, I love them 😂
It could just be a coincidence but I noticed that you never mention Amazon when talking about big tech companies?
I do consider them as part of Big Tech, but historically Amazon has had longer hours and worse pay (at least for engineers)
we can't find girlfriends in manjose (San Jose Man Jose get it??) life is hard there. come down to Texas!!!
What if I’m able to live with my parents rent free while working remotely at FAANG. Is being in person worth the high COL (opportunity cost of investing the money)
Where do your parents live? How far is it from a tech hub/ can you still do trips to the HQ?
Rahuuligan going wild with the thumbnails 🦘
remote work is still the best for productivity.
What are your thoughts about teams that are fully hybrid ? As in every member of the team must be on-site two or three days a week.
Those are good! Try to coordinate so you all get facetime
Thanks for this video. Currently a remote engineer that’s feeling excluded from projects. How can I find a job in my city as a mid-level engineer?
My team doesn’t trust me much rip
nah, remote is the way.
Does being in that higher tax bracket and the general cost of living in the bay area actually mean you make less money than say 120K in a low cost area? Just wondering if you actually end up trading short-term financial well-being for long-term career success.
depends on the circumstances of course, but in general I think for young people you still end up ahead in the Bay Area. I talk about it a bit in this video: ruclips.net/video/gmL-yM1r_zo/видео.html
amazon has an hq 2 in virginia. just heads up to y'all.
c'mon tho they should ditch the bay area and move to my home state of texas.
I work at a Faang in New York for what it's worth, that being said I like going into the office
The Big Tech Cos all have pretty huge eng offices in NYC, I think that's a great choice if many other people in the org are also there.
@@RahulPandeyrkp Yeah my whole team is here, actually not sure Apple/Netflix have offices here but the other 3 FAANGs certainly do
great insight
Any European recommendations ? Dublin and London for example ? What big tech companies would you recommend for starting a career with high chances of development as an engineer, salary and in terms of long term career growth if I assume that I’ll leave after 2-3 years
A Taro Premium member actually just shared his thoughts about the European tech market: www.jointaro.com/blog/a-comparison-of-european-tech-hubs-amsterdam-barcelona-and-london/
@@RahulPandeyrkp Thank you!
What about working in tech from India?
I don't know much about the current best locations in India, but the same principles should apply
Greetings
hii 🥳
so fully remote (for all members of the team) isn't that bad right ?
ideally you have occasional in-person meetups, but fully remote teams can work
@@RahulPandeyrkp Id love to do that if my company would pay for it. But everyone is distributed across PST->EST so I'll never meet my coworkers.
The information you provide is often useful, but I can't stand these cringy thumbnails. I see it a lot lately, seems like to squeeze views RUclipsrs went from fake clickbaits to cringy emotionality.
That's right. I would love to work from a beachfront condo in Florida where I pay 0 income tax, but the reality is that if I want to further my career and find new and better opportunities, I need to be where the action is, so to speak!!