2023 update on Norway ends free education for international students....
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- Опубликовано: 26 авг 2024
- Is Norway no longer providing free education to international students?
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I'm Norwegian and I find this a tragic development. We lose so much when we miss out on all these international students. We're a rich country, we can afford to pay tuition for international students.
If Norway bands free education...Majority of the students will choose UK or US to study.
UK impossible. Only US , Canada nothing else
@@macdeep8523 Why UK impossible?
@@livelongandprosper6577 Economy is destroyed , PPL are migrating from UK
Nah, i think people will choose Germany instead, UK, US and Canada are way too expensive т-т
Another country which has more eyes on students is Ireland.
As an international applicant for Fall 2023, I understand that the decision is completely up to the Norwegian govt and people. However, I must say that it is very disappointing to see how this decision is being implemented. Not only do students come to Norway for affordable and quality education, but also for education in certain fields which Norway is specialised in.. The govt is completely within its rights to charge us fees but even if they do so, this implementation is very haphazard and hasty.. not only did they announce this right before the application window, but till now there is no concrete news of what the amount will be. How do they expect students to prepare to pay such large amounts at such short notice when they themselves have not set up a framework for how the funds will be collected, used, etc.. even if a law has to be put down on paper, it should be done over a longer period of time and after thorough deliberation... I've been planning to study in Norway for the past 5 years and this is the polar opposite of what I've come to expect from Norway after all that I've read and seen about the way their govt handles things.. Really hope that this is reconsidered entirely or at least implemented properly and fairly..
I totally agree, a decision like that needs to be thought and rethought several times. it seems to me that it is a very contradictory act in relation to what norway claims to offer about diversity and human rights. There are participants who applied even before the budget was voted... this is far from being a policy instituted by a country that thinks about social welfare
@@luanamoraescosta3011 Diversity and human rights have nothing to do with university tuition. Universities cost a huge bundle in the United States and no one says that the quality of education has gone down.
@@sowmitriswamy6718 I didn't say quality, I said diversity. 1. The United States is cheaper to live in and has financing options for those without a scholarship, which can attract more people from different countries. 2. Norway claims to be a country of social welfare, which literally means charging more taxes to invest public money in basic rights such as education. Universities are expensive, but everything you consume in norway has a large tax rate that should cover public spending.
@@luanamoraescosta3011 Well I have included quality because that is more relevant to students than diversity or human rights. Norway does not need diversity any more than say Japan does. Besides Norway's social welfare policies is for the benefit of Norwegians not the entire world.
@@sowmitriswamy6718 Look, I'm not saying they have to do charity, international students are the vast majority in areas such as energy, tech and natural science studies, for example. They are part of the labor market, receive wages, pay taxes. It is not by chance that universities are against the implementation of fees, they know that they will lose important people for the construction of knowledge and workforce. I watched many lab interviews saying that without international students, they will be without specialized people. Norway is very cold, it has no sun light, there is little job vacancy and the gratuity was attractive, it is obvious that students will find another way to study in europe, there are still many free universities, but it is norway that will lose
Language barrier, High cost of living, Small Job market, Less stay back period when compared to other immigrant friendly destinations, Very less Good Global ranking Universities will make it impossible for any Indian student on budget to think about studying in Norway.
Thank u for sharing the petition link.
Any alternatives then?
@@tushyrr Germany
@@anonymousfrnd326 dont you need to learn German language for that? Wont it be difficult to learn in a foreign language
@@epicremo8795 yeah u need to learn German which takes many years. Try Duolingo
I've been preparing to move to Norway since 2021, it's a shame this happened... The justification is the worst part to me, as Norwegian students would not need to pay to study in my home country - neither many others in South America. Sounds more like a politic to avoid immigration
Hey we understand your frustration, we are making a new video about free education, so there is some good news...
any update?@@NamastefromNorway
In 2024 , no longer Norway providing cheap education? Make a video on this ?
I guess the only reason most south asians thought of goin to norway was coz of the tuition fee exemption..introduction of tuition fees might prove counter productive for norwegian economy...they could have earned so much through living expense and then retention of students in norway and generate more revenue through taxes
If most international students decided to stay and work in Norway after having completed their degree, these changes would certainly be counter productive for the Norwegian economy. Unfortunately this isn't the case. Most leave, which means that Norway not only pays for expensive education that isn't put to any use here, but also loses the competence. We're also going through a cost of living crisis and right now international students are prioritized for student accommodation which means that living in Oslo, in particular, is extremely expensive for the average Norwegian student. This isn't ideal. I suggested in another comment that my preferred solution would to be to find a middle-way, for example by charging a medium high tuition and refunding most of it if the international students worked for x amount of years in Norway upon having completed their degree.
@@IageF u r right..my argument is precisely that,,, the Norwegian govt needs to find a way to generate more jobs and retain students. Instead now by canceling free education for foreign students it is effectively cutting off the talent before it even arrives in the country and consequently the income that the students generate during their period of study.
@@vishtrinity I get your point, but the income generated for the universities are ultimately funded by the tax payers. Prior research (brekke 2006, SSB-report 2013) indicate that 80-90% of international students leave within a few years after completing their education. Each of these students cost Norwegian tax-payers at least $10.000-15.000 annually, and much more for certain professions like medicine (a whopping $75.000 annually). And the biggest cost is probably not the funding, but losing the competence within the field. If these students do not stay, and unfortunately they seldom do, some changes have to be made. Sweden used to have free tuition too, but changed this in 2011 after experiencing the same problem.
I think it would be a very good solution to implement a tuition fee that gradually is refunded as a tax deduction for each year international students stay and work in Norway. That way the whole cost of their education could be refunded over time, but only if they stay and work in Norway.
@@IageF hmmm..the thing is most South Asians used to prefer Norway for the very reason that the Tuition was free despite of the harsh climate and language barrier...now that free tuition is gone.. the main incentive for the students is gone.
Students from the developing world will suffer the most.
it is interesting to know that private school probably charge less than public universities in Norway. And this is just very unfair for students who are applying for 2023/2024 academic year. Also, I have to say that if the implementation will come so soon after this policy is adopted then Norway is the fastest among other countries like Finland and Sweden. They at least waited for some years after the policy proposal was put forward. Finland did small-scale trial of implementing school fees in some before it fully launched this plan in 2017. Sweden also took small steps and considered well enough before its implementation...
It was proposed back in Norway in 2017 by the governing party Høyre. They failed to get the votes, but this has been coming for a while. The current minister of education who has proposed this change now wrote op-eds suggesting this change almost six years ago. It’s been debated and considered. Norway knows what to expect based on the experiences other Nordic have had. Sweden had a 80% drop-off in terms of international applicants and Norway expects about a 85-90% drop-off once it stabilizes over a few years. For this current year it could be even higher because of the unexpected tuition fees.
Also, a private school in Norway is just that. It’s a school. Not a university. Not comparable.
It is the best comment that I have read so far about tuition fee 👌🏻👌🏻
How much tuition fees?? Any update!?
@@IageF They mean stuff like VID.
Austria, Switzerland, Italy, German state Baden-Württemberg , they also charge fees from non-eu students but way less. So why choose norway ??
Norway has a decently sized IT field. English is common in Norway and Norwegian is way easier to learn than German, Italian or French. Norway also has better social safety nets.
This is very sad, I’m sending emails to the parties to convince them that they are doing it wrong 😢 the diversity in Norway is about to end
even if they are imposing tuition fees it should not be this high, who will pay this much to go to Norway , at this cost one can go to some English speaking country
So they will charge like what UK, USA or Australia or Canada Charging ..... People will instead go to Australia , UK,USA or Canada option
So now Germany is best....!!
Yes. I would say it is best located. You can travel to more countries at lesser costs since it’s centrally located.
How bout italy?
@@nshireen Read about their employee laws. Germany pays you if you loose your job after you are an confirmed employee. You should measure post degree life too .
But social integration is difficult in Germany (or most European countries). You'll always be a foreigner there
As a norwegian that did a bachelor in the UK, I think it is completely fair that students from a country where education isn't free for international students, have to pay as international students in Norway. I had to go abroad to get the degree I wanted, I ended up with half a million nok in debt. Now, if I have to pay to attend university in the UK, I think people from the UK should pay here. Why should my taxes finance the education of students from a country where norwegian students have to pay. Financially it doesn't make sense. I would much rather the norwegian government use the money that covered free education for international students in Norway, to cover the studies of norwegian students abroad. They are much more likely to come back home with their degrees and contribute to the job market and bring their international experience here. This would also open up the opportunity to study abroad to people from working class families.
Norwegians pay a lot of taxes. why should foreigners be entitled to the same education system that Norwegian tax payers have been funding their whole lives? However, the cost of tuition for international students is astronomical (20-40,000 USD/year ) --now on par with what American universities are charging for tuition. it shouldn't be so high.
I’ve applied for AHO at Oslo without even knowing the new system. Please just don’t I’ve worked so hard but now I can’t go because the uni I ve applied (which is a public uni) is now charging non EU students 33.000 euros. How can anyone even in EU can afford that if they were charged the same price.
no one will come, as Norway is not as capitalistic as say, UK or USA, you will have to work twice the amount to get in and to pay back your set back which is 12k, and that is already alot for southern hemisphere countries.
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If Norway is to implement this I have no problem but they must remember they are competing with the rest of Europe I was planning to study and stay cos it was cost effective as we had no guarantee of jobs due to language barriers so if other countries are giving me opportunities with my current it degree then I'm gonna go study in the country allowing me a full time job first with my non European degree and ability to study part time after a job
There are not unlimited money. If it remains free the country will go bankrupt. It is simple economics that if you want to receive something, you should pay for it.
no, Norway is a country which gains most of its money in the form of taxes ....... the cost of living is very high in Norway ..... Norway is the second country in europe which has the highest cost of living ......
language barrier +high cost of basic essentials like groceries , rent , shelter etc +high cost of education in universities =no student will come to the country
when no student will come to Norway=country would not gain enough money
when there is no money = country would go bankrupt
when country would go bankrupt = there would be hyperinflation
@@bhartibhatia7699 Norways economy does NOT depend on hosting foreign students education. lol. they will be just fine
So your colleagues said that "Now only high quality students will come" ... RIP Logic... lol ... only those can come who can afford fees... and those mostly are not bright students ... If you really want Quality Students then ask for "Good years of experience in relevant field" ... good grades etc type of categories to attract Quality Students.....
Exactly, only rich people are able to afford the cost of tuition fee and the talent students who are from underdeveloped countries defiantly will choose other universities. Without any doubt if tuition fee implements the ranking of Norwegian unis will undergo a significant decline, and it is bad news for those one came to Norway before 2023.
Hei sir, Can a skilled worker who had got resident permit in Norway for three years is allowed to invest in stocks market of Norway here ?
I was thinking about Norway to study masters in the technology field but if for 2 yrs I'm going to pay 30000 dollars in Norway where there is a language barrier and also it's so cold out there....dude Australia would be way better... Norway govt has full right about changing fee structure but I personally think this decision would be disastrous as students from many economically weak countries like countries in Africa, South America, India, Pakistan, Bangladesh etc would not be coming there
You're right man...I already got admitted in Bergen university but I would be going due to the current high rate of tution fee
Bhayya Thank you so much for informing early and Now the competition will be decreasing in Norway Public Universities but Could you please say me that is it worth to study in Norway by paying fees 🙏🇮🇳
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It would be depending on your course and domain like Green Energy or renewable energy would make more sense than IT or computer science
No not at all 😂
It was good if it was free.
@@Skyler_twilight5279 gree energy and renewable is distant dream , comchuter is future
I was thinking My MBA in Norway .
Good for Norway
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Great information !!
Still it will be cheaper as compared to USA and UK.
Not if you compare with the costs of living in Norway, it’s waaaaay more expensive
wow, about to start my masters next year. I'd always thought I would go to Norway for my masters. Guess not.
They are just fed up of South Asians, wherever there is some place to breath...things will automatically get ruined
language barrier and also less population means small job market . So better move to canada , australia, nz , uk and usa
Hey I would like to know if I will struggle a lot to find a job as software engineer in Norway after finishing related masters course
Nicely presented… 👍👍👍
Courses in Norwegian should be free for non-eu students like Finland.
Does Finland offer free education?
This is the reason Germany never introduced fees... although there is only one state of Germany( BW) which charges fees ... but that is very cheap...only 1.5 lakhs per semester .... ! Education should be free!
Is there any university(other than the ones like Harvard,MIT,Princeton which is almost impossible to get into) in any country abroad where I can do engineering/Bachelors in Computer Science(I am a class 12 student) fully funded scholarships or with under 40 lakhs rs for the entire course? Merit or Need based scholarships all are welcome and if there are merit based scholarships?.. What are the requirements?
Hi I need your help applying in Norway 🇳🇴 for a masters
any update ?? is it free or not?
You can’t weigh the quality of intellect a person carrying with money. Most of the intelligent people would not be able to come.
The date for voting on the bill has been scheduled i.e 23 May, this bill will be concluded by end of May(either rejection or adaption) by Strorting. Please raise your voice against the tuition fees for international students. #stoppskolepenger !
What will be estimated tution fees for the course of computer science background ?
Likely in the range he mentioned in the video since UiS is a publicly funded university and the government funding is close to the same for all of these programs at the different universities.
I think we as foreigners should also send emails to all the parties there and also to the ministry of higher education.
I understand your position, but charging tuition is the norm in most countries and Norway has been the only country in Scandinavia not doing so. If most international students in Norway worked here after their education, it would be a net benefit for the country. Unfortunately most leave, either because they can't find jobs or because they don't want to live here for other reasons, which means that Norway ends up paying very expensive tuition for education that isn't even put to use here. Considering this it is reasonable to implement some changes, like a tuition fee, but I do hope it's not as expensive as UiS has suggested. Ideally you'd want there to be a barrier that is not too high and perhaps more incentives to stay afterwards. Personally I think these concerns could be balanced, for example by refunding most of the tuition fees as a form of tax deduction for the people who stay and work in Norway after having completed their degree.
Exactly I agree to your point. Norway should also charge tuition fees. All other Nordic countries like Finland, Sweden, Denmark, Iceland all the neighboring countries are charging tuition fees. So why not Norway ? Why Norway shall remain odd one out. Norway should also charge
Yeah it is true, but these mentioned countries have introduced many scholarships, and also have very better universities(please check the ranking of these unis on qs websites and compare them with Norwegian uni).
We do not say that why they impose fees for us. We say that this should be done by better planning. All of us apply for these universities before 1th December but we have not been received any official news about tuition so far.
We have worked hard for coming to Norway and we expect a lite respect.
@Mahdi Jafari Yes, I understand it's very frustrating for those who had plans. The reason why it takes time is because there are disagreements from some of the smaller parties who would like to keep the universities tuition free, so they're stalling the process. Unfortunately these changes have to be made. We can't continue paying for education that isn't put to use in Norway. We're not only losing several billions kroners doing that, but we're also losing specialized experts in most fields. If this means less competition and therefore slightly less qualified applicants, then so be it. It's better to have someone slightly less qualified than nobody at all. About 70-80% of international students leave within a few years of completing their degree and that's just not sustainable in the long run.
@@IageF yeah, Norwegian authorities should understand that talent people are not come to your country easily. So they have to convince them through tuition free or other things.
I refer you to Germany as the biggest economy in Europe. I believe that tuition free is so useful for Germans to improve their economy and industry.
We have many choices but Norwegian don’t.
The industry of Norway do need international students and this change can not be made over a night.
It takes almost 2-3 years because it s a huge change.
@@Mahdi_jafari Tuition fees make sense and it's long overdue. We can't keep educating people who move from the country as soon as they complete their degree. That's just wasting money. If the purpose is to attract talent, there are much more effective ways to do it than to pay for free education. Norwegian industry already recruit internationally, so whether we have free tuition doesn't really affect that much.
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Is their any other country which offers free education for international students?
You can check sweden
@@animetuber9862ok thank u
Very informative
Is phD from India approved in Norway ?
are Europeans international students?
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This is awful. I am sure people who want to study they can figure it out somehow .
Is there racism in Norway like America
In my opinion Indians aren't gonna study in norway bcuz of money. They will prefer their papa's money to spend in english speaking country.
Game over 😜😜😜 why Norway should give free education to outside of eea, eu people ? When Norwegian people have to pay in those countries.. I feel bad but it’s right of Norwegian people..
Does Denmark have free education?? Can you tell me this pls
No it doesn't
If that happened just cancel the name of Norway from the list
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I doubt students will come. They have options like Ireland where They will pay less and get a master in a year or UK both which are English speaking countries. Germany is still free. Also Most of the students stay in Norway after studies. The students villages get money from the rent the students pay. Students work part time jobs at the local shops or restaurants which help local businesses. And pay taxes as well. STEM fields students get into STEM related companies which will be suffering through labor shortage. Students also bring money in Norway when they buy food and pay for electricity bills or for sustenance. A country where the old population is larger than the young population profits on immigration like Germany. So it's not like there are not any benefits.
"Also Most of the students stay in Norway after studies"
This isn't true and it's part of the problem.
Personally I would prefer a solution that incentivized international students to work here upon completing their degrees. Like a tax deduction that compensates for some of the tuition fees they'll now likely have to pay. The problem right now is that most international students leave the country after their education and we therefore spend a lot of money educating people who take they competence elsewhere. Only 1 in 5 stay. That's not a great solution either, so some changes have to be made.
@@IageF yes it is. Also there was a survey conducted in 2011 that 25 % students stay in Norway but at that time even Germany had the same rate. But now it has gone up 10 years later. Also some people return because of unemployment due to language barrier and not by their own wish.
@@IageF Also they will not be international universities any more since they would have to drop those programs itself because there will be no one that will accept the invite due to such high fees. When there are less programs and less staff the ranking of the institution itself will plummet and the research progress that takes place due to the scarcity high talent coming from non-EU countries.
@@prasadpatil1160 SSB, the official government statistics bureau, wrote in a 2013-report that about 70% of international students that came to Norway six years earlier had already left by the time the report was published, which means the vast majority only stayed for the study years (2-5 years) and left within 0-3 years after completing their education. For international students that arrived in Norway in 2005 about 80% had already left by 2013. That's 8 years living in Norway including 2-5 years of study, depending on the degree. It's a big problem. If you have solid stats backing up your arguments, please provide them. As far as I know the vast majority still leave after completing their degrees. Among international students who complete PhDs in Norway about half stay, which is the highest rate, but they are also the most expensive students to educate and it's still a big problem to lose half of all specialized experts within most fields. Something has to be done. It's just the way it is, unfortunately.
I know why some of your colleagues like the idea of tuition fees. If they charge fees to international students, it could be a positive thing to university staff because they can pay more to the staff. Also, the tax payers money gets used for something else such as health care, infrastructure maintenance etc. They will get international students even with fees because there are many rich people in the world in developing countries.
I doubt many would come. Might have to drop the program all together
Only stupid rich people are willing to pay nearly 50,000 euros for Norwegian universities with such low rankings.
And the number of them is very small.
With this money they are able to study in UK, France and Canada.
Give me only one reason that why they will choose Norway.
I think, those rich people in developing countries will choose Australia, UK, US or Japan. 🤔
There is no point to study in Norway, If education is not free for students coming to Norway.
Specifically, No more tuition free education for students regionally belonging to Southern Asia and Africa.
We need to know that Norway is still offering free education to EU/EEA countries.
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Is there racism in Norway like America
yup