The notes dominate the finger taps on nitrided steel while the finger taps compete with the notes on the stainless adding a percussive element. There could be a purpose for each metal but to my ear the finger taps on stainless are distracting whereas the nitrided steel tones are mellower and seem to fit the spirit of the instrument. Notice I said, "to my ear," since I see that others find just the opposite to be true.
It would be very interesting to see a video where you play the same song on both instruments but you spliced back and forth every 15 seconds or so between the two keeping the music seemless. I'm sure it would take much more video editing, but it would be so cool to see and hear. You make beauiful instruments.
Wow, I was looking for an introduction low budget electric drum set and landed here.. Glad I did, and now realize that, well, I need to save more money!! Omg, this was amazing to watch!!
Thank you :) I like the stainless sound as my preference. The nitride gives a higher ring that I find less soothing to listen too. The stainless sounds more open and doesn’t have that long collective ring tone to it. It’s more calming. I appreciate this lesson while doing my research.
the nitride has a fewer of the harmonics and a lot fewer artifacts with shorter sustain, the stainless has more harmonics and a lot more of the artifacts with longer sustain. The nitride is more like a piano and the stainless more like a harpsichord, the nitride like a nylon string guitar, the stainless like a steel string guitar. The nitride is as if more "alkali" and the stainless as if more more "acid", the nitride more subtle and passive and the stainless more bold and aggressive, the nitride more about tone and the stainless more about percussion. Id prefer the nitride for minor scales and modes and for the more relaxing tonal music while I'd prefer the stainless for major scales and modes and the more exciting rhythmic music, I'd use the nitride for back up behind other instruments and for solo composition while I'd use the stainless for lead in front of other instruments and in ensemble composition. great work by the way, all hand pans sound "mysterious" to me as if mystical no matter what kind is used.
@@lucidmonkey3591 No musical instrument is tuned to one note, "A" is no more or less important than any other note, the letter "A" does not mean its the "first note", A is used because the keyboards white notes make a minor mode if we start from "A" which was once considered the primary mode, (A B C D E F G A is the minor scale). Today we consider the major scale primary so we should be talking about "C", (todays "primary" major mode is "C D E F G A B C") Some people choose to tune all the notes lower and some choose to tune all of the notes higher, there are many different standards depending on region, parts of Japan like to tune UP, the "A" would be 442 cents, there is a current fad in mostly western countries to tune all the notes down so that the "A" is "432", because some notes are feared as "bad" notes so are thought best avoided, a kind of pitch bigotry based on fear.
@@billwesley Cymatics proves that 432hz ie A tuned to 432hz and all other notes tuned down 8 cents as well has a physical effect in which produces perfect symmetry. You can have a pompous attitude about it all you want, but experimentation proves this. Go watch the cymatics video. Does the symmetry it produces on matter mean anything? I dont know. However, when I listen to 440hz, then 432hz, the 432hz is soothing. It is akin to the resolution from a dissonance that wants to resolve to a consonance. Would 428hz feel the same compared to 432hz? Probably. Would 428hz produce symmetry in matter? I don't know. Also, A is just a point of reference. Nobody thinks its the lone note you tune to 432hz and leave the others. Pitch bigotry does not exist. Cymatics experiment unveiled a peculiar phenomenon in how tones create patterns in the air which have potential to act on matter and 432hz produced perfect symmetrical geometric patters. So that is what the whole 432hz thing is about. People surely thought the idea of radio waves and communication through them was preposterous same as your feelings toward 432hz, yet here we are. I am not saying 432hz provides special healing powers or anything. I am simply saying it gives a feeling of resolution from tension. And resolution feels good in music. Obviously.
Marshall, I watch this often. You really know how to explain. It is difficult to choose. The last nitrided you built for me is such a joy to play. I am still trying to decide on the metal for the next instrument. Every night I learn a little bit, even now. Thank you for that incredible musical instrument and this video. Have a great New year.
Thanks for the video! That was really helpful learning about the 2 side by side. i definitely prefer the tone of the nitrited pan but love the sustain of the stainless. i wish there was a material that had the best of both worlds!
Thanks much for this very illuminating show and tell. My first hand pan arrives this week. I already know I will want two, so I look forward to checking out yours soon. -Suzanna
That sounds amazing, thank you so much for posting thus! Trevor Jones' work on Last of the Mohicans is one of the reasons I started writing film score! I just got a 10 note d minor handpan, and I have been trying to learn this just by watching your video. Needless to say, I'm missing a few things. Is there any way you could post some sort of notation, so that I can complete the process of learning that amazing piece? Thanks again for everything you do; I learned a lot from this video!
Theme from "Last of the Mohicans", yes? sounds amazing. I've been watching the handpan movement since it started. The $20K range prices scared me away! I hope these are becoming a bit more accessible, it's a great instrument! Yours are easily the best I've seen or heard! I love the Phrygian tuned pan you just made!
Correct and thank you! Indeed 20k is much too high. Now that there are more makers in the world it is easier to get them than it was in the early days. My nitrided prices are $200 per note and include a hardcase. Best wishes!
I just learned stuff I will never use. Thanks! 😁 [a bit of an explainer. I was searching other metallurgical videos for tools, and this came up in the results. Since it was informative and accurate, I hung around for the whole video]
I’m just about to purchase one! My gut instinct was nitrided steel, as I read somewhere it was better for fast rhythmic playing, whereas stainless was more for slower melodic stuff. I’m still thinking of going for nitrided, as I’m more a rhythmic guy, but maybe later on in life I can pick up a stainless pan :) You could use a nitrided and stainless instrument in a pair. Could add some interesting colour variation...
Great Video my friend! I hope to purchase our first handpan this coming year. I see you're in Boone NC, I used to go to the Scottish Clan gatherings in my younger years. I will be checking your instruments for sure. We play RAVs right now & love them.
Thanks! Yes we have taken our family to the Highland Games several times, always a great experience. Thanks for considering my instruments, feel free to reach out whenever you are ready to make a purchase, happy to help or answer any questions you may have.
Nice thanks for the vid. Steel all the way for me. My nitride one is easier to play but does feel a bit flimsy (It's not one of yours! ...maybe I got a bit of a dud ...it was pretty cheap), it's easier to play loudly but creates some unwanted artificial harmonics a lot. The sound quality (resonance, sustain, timbre) on my regular stainless steel ones are markedly better for my ears. But that's just me I guess
I like my nitrided for rockin’ out (drum circle nights) but I LOVE stainless for the meditative play that I do …. Either way ….love me my handpans!!!! Hope to run across yours someday to test out!! Are you using Ember or Titan steel yet? If not, you totally need to check those out!!! 🤗…..🛸 🎶….🦋
The tone of the nitrite metal is warm and deep but has a sharp reverb at the end of the tone is there anyway you can make one that doesn’t have that sharp tone behind those tones ? For a more solid deep tone ??
I have just ordered bog standard £330 d minor 9 note carbon handpan off amazon . Should be here monday . I have never played handpan , but i thought i bet last of mohichans film theme would sound brilliant . I just watched this vid to find out the difference between the carbon and steel . Then you go and play last of mohicans and blew my mind,thank you. So when i get mine i will come back to you to teach me last of mohicans 😂
I have kind of a weird question for you.. I'm fascinated by the resonance of how intricately these are built, and how one tone can activate other tones, if in the proper proportions. Now, i'm just hypothetically wondering, do you think there'd be an audible difference if, somehow we were able to manufacture these with nanometer precision in terms of the correct size and bend for all the tone indentations? I guess my question is, how far could we push this towards the unachievable realm of perfection? Naturally, it's often the minor imperfections that give an instrument its character, but you get my point. It'd be very interesting to hear a handpan that was engineered to extreme precision, just to hear if its significantly different.
Hi @Baleur, great question. I would recommend researching the difference between Just Intonation and Equal Temperament. Vibrating frequencies aren’t mathematically perfect in terms of their relative intervals. We do our best to put structure and language to them, but it is an imperfect science that has many compromises. Also, achieving sound from a note is less about note size or bend in the metal, and more about the compressive stresses that are introduced to a note membrane through force (endless hammering 🙂) and the ever changing properties of any given alloy (that also widely vary in consistency of hardness, composition, and uniformity). Making minute adjustments to these stresses have so many different variables, and are achievable by so many different paths that are difficult to explain here, that it doesn’t seem possible to me that handpans could be manufactured in such a way. Although I suppose it is plausible, I don’t think it is practically achievable by anything other than a human or possibly some future form of AI. Best, Marshall
Both sound very nice! I think I would pick the Stainless Steel one based on this demo since I like a stronger, more defined attack that it seems to provide to each note. May I ask which material is louder when played with the same amount of force?
Quello in acciaio nitrurato È più resistente .... se lo colpisci più forte rimane stabile e non perde l'accordatura... Con quello in acciaio inox devi stare più attento Non puoi colpire troppo forte perché sennò si deforma più facilmente e perde l'accordatura
always fascinating, this mesmerizing melancholic-heroic mohican-melody...! thanx for that! I feel stainless sounds more 'hollow' (here), and then there is this smacking sound... may be one should hit the membranes of stainless more lightly...? and use a thicker material? by the way: is ember just synonymous for stainless or something different?
Thanks for your informative video. I’ve recently got a nitrated steel handpan and tried to clean some fingerprints off of it using 70% alcohol. It has given my instrument quite some unwanted stains. How do you recommend I should take action to remove the stains!? I’d be grateful of your expert advice in advance.
I believe the Nitrite is the one I would go for. But if I wanted a more Haunted like sound then the Stainless. I guess it depends on what your playing.
@@DanielsMadeHandpans ah, awesome! I checked out your website to order one of your handpans, and though you offer a few options, the tuning frequency wasn't part of the online order form. Which frequency do you prefer?
There are pros and cons to both. If you are planning on just playing by yourself and using it for meditative or sound therapy purposes, then either one is great. Where it will make a difference is if you want to play with other musicians/instruments on a regular basis (i.e. performances, recordings, or jam sessions). The western standard for tuning modern instruments is A=440, which means that having a handpan tuned to 432 would sound slightly flat in an ensemble setting unless the other instrument(s) were tuned to A= 432 first, which is uncommon in most performance settings.
I've been itching to get a handpan for years. What is the price range for yours? I love to see that you're fro. Boone. I live in black mountain, a town east of asheville. I would love to support someone from my area :)
Hi! Ive been to Black Mountain several times, love that town. There is actually another builder in Black Mountain, Saraz Handpans. Mark Garner is a great guy. Id be happy to build one for you if interested. Send an email to info@danielsmadehandpans.com and Ill send you all the info about getting a handpan from me. Best!
Yes, painting a handpan will dampen the sound somewhat. I painted a few of my early prototypes for my kids, and while they still make music, it does deaden the sound a bit.
Materials dork question: I am wondering what would happen to the tone of the stainless pan if it was either passivated or possibly shot peened? In either case you would wind up with a substantially harder layer on the surface of the metal than straight stainless, which might add some of fuller quality of the nitrided pan to the brighter sound of the stainless. Or go whole hog and selectively laser harden different areas of the surface to try to directly influence the sound. It might be possible to modify/filter the texture of the sound by putting a visible pattern on the surface, which would be amazing. Regardless of what color they are, those things are beautiful.
Hello! Prices vary based on material and number of notes. You can visit my website to see my prices: www.danielsmadehandpans.com/prices If you know which particular scale you would like, please send an email to info@danielsmadehandpans.com , your country/state/zip code, and I’ll send you an exact quote. Thanks 🙏
Is it possible to hand paint a hand pan, I wanted to customise one to give it as a gift to a person, but I am afraid of messing up the sound. If so, what is the "right" kind of paint to be used? Would it change the sound if I paint it? Thank you!
Painting your handpan will affect the sound. I gave a few of my early prototypes to my kids, and they asked me to paint them. Sustain is affected more than volume, but overall I would not recommend putting any paint on it if you are worried about it diminishing the sound. Some people, however, like the dampening effect that it can have. Ultimately it just depends on what sounds you like best!
Hi, when you say ‘they’, are you referring to a seller or maker of handpans? I have never seen a nitrided stainless handpan. It’s possible to nitride a stainless steel shell, but I personally have never seen it done before.
Daniels Made Handpans Yes, it is in the description on Amazon for an As Teman hand pan. I actually have one and was wondering what it meant. They describe it as “nitrogen stainless steel.” But honestly I imagine it is a language issue.
432 hz tuning would make these even better and harmonize the sounds without the slightly nagging 440hz "attention look at me" frequency. You will find 432 hz more "feeling oriented" and "meditative" although 440hz is better to play with groups, while 432 is more solo.
I think Stainless steel offers more percussive characteristics - more recommended for band ensemble. Nitride steel better for relaxation : Yoga, Meditation, etc. Steel can produce same results if played softly and gently. Steel offers more versatility...my opinion only.
The notes dominate the finger taps on nitrided steel while the finger taps compete with the notes on the stainless adding a percussive element. There could be a purpose for each metal but to my ear the finger taps on stainless are distracting whereas the nitrided steel tones are mellower and seem to fit the spirit of the instrument. Notice I said, "to my ear," since I see that others find just the opposite to be true.
I totally agree, well formulated
I totally agree I can hear lots of finger tapping on the stainless steel.
All depends on the micing. Using the EnSoul pickup will lower the "finger" attack on the pan. I'd bet that live, the attack is not so evident.
It would be very interesting to see a video where you play the same song on both instruments but you spliced back and forth every 15 seconds or so between the two keeping the music seemless. I'm sure it would take much more video editing, but it would be so cool to see and hear. You make beauiful instruments.
The last of the Mohicans. Real art.😌 Thank you for bringing the beauty and soul of the handpan to us!
Wow, I was looking for an introduction low budget electric drum set and landed here.. Glad I did, and now realize that, well, I need to save more money!! Omg, this was amazing to watch!!
Thank you :)
I like the stainless sound as my preference. The nitride gives a higher ring that I find less soothing to listen too. The stainless sounds more open and doesn’t have that long collective ring tone to it. It’s more calming.
I appreciate this lesson while doing my research.
Sustain
I like the tone of the nitrided better as well as the coloration
the nitride has a fewer of the harmonics and a lot fewer artifacts with shorter sustain, the stainless has more harmonics and a lot more of the artifacts with longer sustain. The nitride is more like a piano and the stainless more like a harpsichord, the nitride like a nylon string guitar, the stainless like a steel string guitar. The nitride is as if more "alkali" and the stainless as if more more "acid", the nitride more subtle and passive and the stainless more bold and aggressive, the nitride more about tone and the stainless more about percussion.
Id prefer the nitride for minor scales and modes and for the more relaxing tonal music while I'd prefer the stainless for major scales and modes and the more exciting rhythmic music, I'd use the nitride for back up behind other instruments and for solo composition while I'd use the stainless for lead in front of other instruments and in ensemble composition. great work by the way, all hand pans sound "mysterious" to me as if mystical no matter what kind is used.
Thanks, for an excellent analogy. I love my D minor Celtic (Nitride) and l personally compared it to a piano and guitar. Cheers
Bill how can you tell what a hand pan is tuned at? If it’s 432hz or 440hz ?
@@lucidmonkey3591 No musical instrument is tuned to one note, "A" is no more or less important than any other note, the letter "A" does not mean its the "first note", A is used because the keyboards white notes make a minor mode if we start from "A" which was once considered the primary mode, (A B C D E F G A is the minor scale). Today we consider the major scale primary so we should be talking about "C", (todays "primary" major mode is "C D E F G A B C") Some people choose to tune all the notes lower and some choose to tune all of the notes higher, there are many different standards depending on region, parts of Japan like to tune UP, the "A" would be 442 cents, there is a current fad in mostly western countries to tune all the notes down so that the "A" is "432", because some notes are feared as "bad" notes so are thought best avoided, a kind of pitch bigotry based on fear.
Wow! Thankful for this《 ♡》
@@billwesley Cymatics proves that 432hz ie A tuned to 432hz and all other notes tuned down 8 cents as well has a physical effect in which produces perfect symmetry. You can have a pompous attitude about it all you want, but experimentation proves this. Go watch the cymatics video. Does the symmetry it produces on matter mean anything? I dont know. However, when I listen to 440hz, then 432hz, the 432hz is soothing. It is akin to the resolution from a dissonance that wants to resolve to a consonance. Would 428hz feel the same compared to 432hz? Probably. Would 428hz produce symmetry in matter? I don't know. Also, A is just a point of reference. Nobody thinks its the lone note you tune to 432hz and leave the others. Pitch bigotry does not exist. Cymatics experiment unveiled a peculiar phenomenon in how tones create patterns in the air which have potential to act on matter and 432hz produced perfect symmetrical geometric patters. So that is what the whole 432hz thing is about. People surely thought the idea of radio waves and communication through them was preposterous same as your feelings toward 432hz, yet here we are. I am not saying 432hz provides special healing powers or anything. I am simply saying it gives a feeling of resolution from tension. And resolution feels good in music. Obviously.
Marshall, I watch this often. You really know how to explain. It is difficult to choose. The last nitrided you built for me is such a joy to play. I am still trying to decide on the metal for the next instrument. Every night I learn a little bit, even now. Thank you for that incredible musical instrument and this video. Have a great New year.
OH MY GOD THE LAST OF THE MOHICANS I LOVED THAT BROO
Very nicely explained the difference between two makes . I now have a clarity on which type to purchase.
I enjoyed the stainless better but both have a beautiful sound! Thank you for this informative video!
-Very informative and decent video. I have been in need of this for a long time. Thank you.
great video daniel and well played!! I have one nitreded in C# Shahmaran (13 notes) and I love the sound of it!
Thanks for the video! That was really helpful learning about the 2 side by side. i definitely prefer the tone of the nitrited pan but love the sustain of the stainless. i wish there was a material that had the best of both worlds!
Hand Pan sounds very nice with Bhajans. Good job.
Thanks much for this very illuminating show and tell. My first hand pan arrives this week. I already know I will want two, so I look forward to checking out yours soon. -Suzanna
Where are you getting it from?
That sounds amazing, thank you so much for posting thus! Trevor Jones' work on Last of the Mohicans is one of the reasons I started writing film score! I just got a 10 note d minor handpan, and I have been trying to learn this just by watching your video. Needless to say, I'm missing a few things. Is there any way you could post some sort of notation, so that I can complete the process of learning that amazing piece? Thanks again for everything you do; I learned a lot from this video!
Like the Nitride, but Florida is very humid. Want one used to play the drums, flute, piano and glockenspiel. Love the sound.
Theme from "Last of the Mohicans", yes? sounds amazing. I've been watching the handpan movement since it started. The $20K range prices scared me away! I hope these are becoming a bit more accessible, it's a great instrument! Yours are easily the best I've seen or heard! I love the Phrygian tuned pan you just made!
Correct and thank you! Indeed 20k is much too high. Now that there are more makers in the world it is easier to get them than it was in the early days. My nitrided prices are $200 per note and include a hardcase. Best wishes!
@@DanielsMadeHandpans hi, how much is a handpan in d minor?
@@DanielsMadeHandpans I really liked the nitrided handpan you displayed and played. What is the price for that?
@@DanielsMadeHandpans per note..interesting way to price..maybe this is normal?..makes sence though
I just learned stuff I will never use. Thanks! 😁
[a bit of an explainer. I was searching other metallurgical videos for tools, and this came up in the results. Since it was informative and accurate, I hung around for the whole video]
I got here looking for videos about nitrided frying pans.
I’m just about to purchase one! My gut instinct was nitrided steel, as I read somewhere it was better for fast rhythmic playing, whereas stainless was more for slower melodic stuff. I’m still thinking of going for nitrided, as I’m more a rhythmic guy, but maybe later on in life I can pick up a stainless pan :)
You could use a nitrided and stainless instrument in a pair. Could add some interesting colour variation...
Great Video my friend! I hope to purchase our first handpan this coming year. I see you're in Boone NC, I used to go to the Scottish Clan gatherings in my younger years. I will be checking your instruments for sure. We play RAVs right now & love them.
Thanks! Yes we have taken our family to the Highland Games several times, always a great experience. Thanks for considering my instruments, feel free to reach out whenever you are ready to make a purchase, happy to help or answer any questions you may have.
Daniels Made Handpans thanks my friend I will be in touch.
I thought I knew, but now I know 💡 thanks Daniel 🙏
EXCELLENT VIDEO ... THANKS DANIEL 🙏🤍
Good sound & playing!
Thank you for this helpful video!
Nice thanks for the vid. Steel all the way for me. My nitride one is easier to play but does feel a bit flimsy (It's not one of yours! ...maybe I got a bit of a dud ...it was pretty cheap), it's easier to play loudly but creates some unwanted artificial harmonics a lot. The sound quality (resonance, sustain, timbre) on my regular stainless steel ones are markedly better for my ears. But that's just me I guess
Very informative, thank you !
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I like my nitrided for rockin’ out (drum circle nights) but I LOVE stainless for the meditative play that I do …. Either way ….love me my handpans!!!! Hope to run across yours someday to test out!! Are you using Ember or Titan steel yet? If not, you totally need to check those out!!! 🤗…..🛸 🎶….🦋
Yep, currently working with ember!
Nitrided for me. Warmer and clean! Both beautiful instruments though.
The tone of the nitrite metal is warm and deep but has a sharp reverb at the end of the tone is there anyway you can make one that doesn’t have that sharp tone behind those tones ? For a more solid deep tone ??
Great info. Great delivery. Many thanks!! 😀
Thank you SO MUCH, this info is super valuable !!
I have just ordered bog standard £330 d minor 9 note carbon handpan off amazon . Should be here monday . I have never played handpan , but i thought i bet last of mohichans film theme would sound brilliant . I just watched this vid to find out the difference between the carbon and steel . Then you go and play last of mohicans and blew my mind,thank you. So when i get mine i will come back to you to teach me last of mohicans 😂
I have kind of a weird question for you..
I'm fascinated by the resonance of how intricately these are built, and how one tone can activate other tones, if in the proper proportions.
Now, i'm just hypothetically wondering, do you think there'd be an audible difference if, somehow we were able to manufacture these with nanometer precision in terms of the correct size and bend for all the tone indentations? I guess my question is, how far could we push this towards the unachievable realm of perfection?
Naturally, it's often the minor imperfections that give an instrument its character, but you get my point.
It'd be very interesting to hear a handpan that was engineered to extreme precision, just to hear if its significantly different.
Hi @Baleur, great question. I would recommend researching the difference between Just Intonation and Equal Temperament. Vibrating frequencies aren’t mathematically perfect in terms of their relative intervals. We do our best to put structure and language to them, but it is an imperfect science that has many compromises. Also, achieving sound from a note is less about note size or bend in the metal, and more about the compressive stresses that are introduced to a note membrane through force (endless hammering 🙂) and the ever changing properties of any given alloy (that also widely vary in consistency of hardness, composition, and uniformity). Making minute adjustments to these stresses have so many different variables, and are achievable by so many different paths that are difficult to explain here, that it doesn’t seem possible to me that handpans could be manufactured in such a way. Although I suppose it is plausible, I don’t think it is practically achievable by anything other than a human or possibly some future form of AI.
Best,
Marshall
Both sound very nice! I think I would pick the Stainless Steel one based on this demo since I like a stronger, more defined attack that it seems to provide to each note. May I ask which material is louder when played with the same amount of force?
Quello in acciaio nitrurato È più resistente .... se lo colpisci più forte rimane stabile e non perde l'accordatura... Con quello in acciaio inox devi stare più attento Non puoi colpire troppo forte perché sennò si deforma più facilmente e perde l'accordatura
always fascinating, this mesmerizing melancholic-heroic mohican-melody...! thanx for that! I feel stainless sounds more 'hollow' (here), and then there is this smacking sound... may be one should hit the membranes of stainless more lightly...? and use a thicker material? by the way: is ember just synonymous for stainless or something different?
Thanks for your informative video. I’ve recently got a nitrated steel handpan and tried to clean some fingerprints off of it using 70% alcohol. It has given my instrument quite some unwanted stains. How do you recommend I should take action to remove the stains!? I’d be grateful of your expert advice in advance.
Thanks for video really I love hand pan soul sound & stainless f# hijaz 🙏
I believe the Nitrite is the one I would go for. But if I wanted a more Haunted like sound then the Stainless. I guess it depends on what your playing.
Well done fella...you made life simple an understandable 🎉😂😊
Hello, such beautiful
peaceful melodies are created with these hand pans. Im wondering if you
tune yours to 440, or 432 hertz frequency.
Hi Brigitte! I can tune to either one by request.
@@DanielsMadeHandpans ah, awesome! I checked out your website to order one of your handpans, and though you offer a few options, the tuning frequency wasn't part of the online order form. Which frequency do you prefer?
There are pros and cons to both. If you are planning on just playing by yourself and using it for meditative or sound therapy purposes, then either one is great. Where it will make a difference is if you want to play with other musicians/instruments on a regular basis (i.e. performances, recordings, or jam sessions). The western standard for tuning modern instruments is A=440, which means that having a handpan tuned to 432 would sound slightly flat in an ensemble setting unless the other instrument(s) were tuned to A= 432 first, which is uncommon in most performance settings.
Can you make one out of copper or brass??
Hi Ted, copper and brass are much softer metals and aren’t able to hold the compressive strength required for a stable note. Good question though!
Try titanium nitride alloy or an aluminum cobalt alloy.
😯 Oho, I Like them both 😌
Thank you!.. Incredibly helpful info! 😎😎😎
I've been itching to get a handpan for years. What is the price range for yours? I love to see that you're fro. Boone. I live in black mountain, a town east of asheville. I would love to support someone from my area :)
Hi! Ive been to Black Mountain several times, love that town. There is actually another builder in Black Mountain, Saraz Handpans. Mark Garner is a great guy.
Id be happy to build one for you if interested. Send an email to info@danielsmadehandpans.com and Ill send you all the info about getting a handpan from me.
Best!
If I say get one of these hand pans and spray paint them for aesthetic purposes, would it have an effect on the instruments tone at all?
Yes, painting a handpan will dampen the sound somewhat. I painted a few of my early prototypes for my kids, and while they still make music, it does deaden the sound a bit.
looks like the most easiest instrument to play and learn quick....going to be my next investment
Thanks so much for this!
What kind of HANDPAN is? The Kurd 432 or 440?
These are tuned to 440hz
The Nitrided has a warmer tone
Yo ! Cool Vidéo, thank a lot ! What is tonalyti etc... of your hang drum ? Have a nice day !
I'm leaning on nitrided for mediative yoga music.
What scale is this? What's the best scale to use? The minor Celtic D scale sounds so beautiful amongst the other scales
General question: I am about 5 feet. Should I order smaller size handpan? Help. Thanks.
very interesting, thank you 😊🙏🏼
Very helpful!! Thanks!!
Materials dork question: I am wondering what would happen to the tone of the stainless pan if it was either passivated or possibly shot peened? In either case you would wind up with a substantially harder layer on the surface of the metal than straight stainless, which might add some of fuller quality of the nitrided pan to the brighter sound of the stainless. Or go whole hog and selectively laser harden different areas of the surface to try to directly influence the sound. It might be possible to modify/filter the texture of the sound by putting a visible pattern on the surface, which would be amazing.
Regardless of what color they are, those things are beautiful.
I would love to buy one. Do you offer military discounts? Or do any donations.
Thank you for your service! I’d be happy to give you a military discount. Just reach out to my email: info@danielsmadehandpans.com
Thank you ...nice video :-)
Hello Daniel what is a hardness level of nitride material in your instrument
Hello. Can you tell how much nickel in the material the nitrided handpans do have?
Hi! The nitrided instruments do not have any nickel. Only carbon and iron.
The nitride one seems to build up a nasty rezonance when you play a lot of notes, i.e. during LotM
How is the sustain on titanium alloy?...thanks
I like stainless because I can play it in the bath ...
Hi Daniel I wish to purchase your instrument. What's the price
Hello! Prices vary based on material and number of notes. You can visit my website to see my prices:
www.danielsmadehandpans.com/prices
If you know which particular scale you would like, please send an email to info@danielsmadehandpans.com , your country/state/zip code, and I’ll send you an exact quote. Thanks 🙏
grat video. thank you
Hi hear the sound tune of the movie "the piano".
really nice video, thanks a lot ^^
question: im buying one and I asked the guy if I can have it nitrited and he said its stainless steel nitrided. is this different from nitrided steel?
Is it possible to hand paint a hand pan, I wanted to customise one to give it as a gift to a person, but I am afraid of messing up the sound. If so, what is the "right" kind of paint to be used? Would it change the sound if I paint it? Thank you!
Painting your handpan will affect the sound. I gave a few of my early prototypes to my kids, and they asked me to paint them. Sustain is affected more than volume, but overall I would not recommend putting any paint on it if you are worried about it diminishing the sound. Some people, however, like the dampening effect that it can have. Ultimately it just depends on what sounds you like best!
Stainless has higher elasticity - a thousand times yes. I've tuned steel pans made from stainless and that was exactly what threw me off
Thanks .
Both are 1.2 mm?
These shells are 1mm thick
@@DanielsMadeHandpans Thanks …
@@DanielsMadeHandpans Is there a difference between 301 and 304 stainless steel?
Hey, so just to confirm my understanding, when they describe something like “nitrogen stainless” do they likely mean nitrided?
Hi, when you say ‘they’, are you referring to a seller or maker of handpans? I have never seen a nitrided stainless handpan. It’s possible to nitride a stainless steel shell, but I personally have never seen it done before.
Daniels Made Handpans Yes, it is in the description on Amazon for an As Teman hand pan. I actually have one and was wondering what it meant. They describe it as “nitrogen stainless steel.” But honestly I imagine it is a language issue.
Ah ok, those are from China so it most likely is a language thing.
Are they tuned to 432 or 440?
Hi Lisa! The instruments in this video are tuned to 440. However, I can tune to either one by request.
very interesting bro. I love the sound of them both but if I had to choose I think the nitrited steel sounds cooler.
Could you put the same coating on a stainless hand pan?? If so then what how would it sound
Indeed stainless can be nitrided, although I don’t know how it would sound on a handpan as I have never seen it tried before. Good thought though!
@@DanielsMadeHandpans I wonder if this would made stailess sound more similar to nitride which sound I like much more.
,how you build handpan give me a video
nitrided steel was better
I ordered mine today , will get in 2 months
Hi
I would like to get one of this instrument, can you help me to find one please, thanks
Hi Mohammed, please send an email to info@danielsmadehandpans.com , I would be happy to help.
432 hz tuning would make these even better and harmonize the sounds without the slightly nagging 440hz "attention look at me" frequency. You will find 432 hz more "feeling oriented" and "meditative" although 440hz is better to play with groups, while 432 is more solo.
Carbon steell..best natural armonic sound,yeah 🤟😬
Do you still produce these?
I’m interested…
Hi Amy! I do still make these and would be happy to make one for you. Please send an email to info@danielsmadehandpans.com for more information.
Brave hart
😭 I want one!
LAST OF THE MOHICANS!!!❤
Last of the mohicans!
Can you please confirm hardness of nitride material
Not really, it is case hardening. Underlying material will be 30-35 HRC, final product, ~ 70 HRC. But that is at the atomic level.
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The Gael...
I think Stainless steel offers more percussive characteristics - more recommended for band ensemble. Nitride steel better for relaxation : Yoga, Meditation, etc. Steel can produce same results if played softly and gently. Steel offers more versatility...my opinion only.
I dont like the attack on the gold one. Sounds thin and slappy and annoying. Goldy does have a nice sustain but Blue wins fo sho
When I make gu hole , I see that
stainless steel is harder than nitrided steel to shape
Uhh.., how much for 12 note Zirconium?..
Cowabunga moochacho!
last of the mohicans
Love it.Thank you and may the Lord bless your business in Jesus name AmenX3💕
Amen
Stainless too bright. The nitrided sounds less obviously made of metal.
How the fuck you make these wow