I feel like Koleda is actually the third member of this setup since she comes in and does her EX atk and gets out super fast; She'd up the stun time i'd wager
The only character that could fit the third slot is a support that can Assist Follow Up into Jane or Seth. And even then… yeah, you’re better off with just these two.
The only use I’ve found for the third agent is Rina, I just switch her in for the pen ratio before going into Jane combo. Plus her parry can help dodge some attacks Seth isn’t great for
You can do animation cancels with Seth. After the parry, use charge attack or press skill, and you can quick assist jane during the first frames of Seth's attacks. This way, Seth keeps his debuff, inflicts daze, and doesn't take too much field time
Yeah but you should only do this if Jane already has the shield, otherwise you won’t be able to get it because it’s only passed through quick assists or chain attacked triggered by his enhanced basic attack.
@lionel7360 That's the deal. You do get quick assist. It's a bit tricky to do because you have to press space at the last second of quick assist prompt, but after a few minutes in training, I'm doing that consistently. It's weird that not many ccs are talking about that
This duo is so fun to play and has such great synergy that honestly a third character often feels awkward and might be a dps loss if not played super optimally. The quick parry with Seth and immediate switch back to Jane is already plenty strong.
She is honestly SO fun to play. I love her animations. But I've pulled for every character so far so I'm gonna have to skip the Sons of Calydon characters 😅
You’re me lol I’m still gonna wish on Caesar banner with any wishes I get from my “welkin” and in game currency, but I’m not spending again til Yanagi if she’s electro anomaly
Jane's teams for 3rd slot are pretty limited right now - Rina, Lucy, or a stunner are the only decent options - makes sense that only Jane and Seth can clear so much!! Hoping that Caesar/Burnice pairs well for a third slot, buffing attack + applying more physical/fire anomaly!!
@@ramenfan21 imo, building grace to the point where she's impactful isnt really worth it for this team (unless youve already built her) she takes too much field time and isnt really a support character
in comparison which one is better? weeping gemini or rainforest? cuz i cant really infest in both since im building a team for her, and is there a situation when one is better than the other?
I prefer Weeping Gemini For me I currently have it at level 50 with 5 stars. Gives you an Advance Stat of ATK 22% When afflicting an Attribute it increases your Anomoly Proficiency by 48, stacking up to 4 times Rainforest is the opposite, while it gives you more Anamoly Proficiency as your advance stat. For every 10 Energy consume (assuming you have 5 star Rainforest W-Engine) it gives you an ATK% buff of 4%. Stacking 10 times.
Literally shows at the end. It's c0 Jane with the BP w-engine, which is like 20% worse than her S rank W-engine IF it was even maxed out which it can't be.
@@gestilyagreed, I used Rina cuz she's already somewhat built, but I just ended up ignoring her outside of chain attacks anyway. Just waiting for new units cuz she can brute force for now w/o a third and I don't have the resources to build one anyway.
Right at the start of the video, how do you immediately give the shield and buff to Jane? Supposedly you only get those through the EX Skill or the Switch parry attack. The Hold normal should only shred 20% anomaly build up resistance. Am I missing something?
The hold normal attack gives u the quick assist option for ur dps (in this case Jane) which then gives them a shield. Ur correct in that u can get the shield through defensive assists with Seth, but his ex special does not. It does however gives Seth himself a shield while also filling up the bar that Seth needs to use his charge normal attack which shreds anomaly resistance and gives the quick assit option.
Technically speaking the shield is given whenever you quick assist, which is what the hold does, the reason I can do it at the start is because Seth's M2 gives him enough charge to use it right from the start. The EX skill only gives Seth the shield, but it does give the charge needed for the hold attack
I'm confused when you said don't forget to use Seth Ex to increase anomaly build up. What do you mean by that? like reduce anomaly build up res? or you're referring the disorder
@@Shanaha uhhh can just do heavy basic attack to trigger that. So doing Ex is just for the build up shock. I might be mistaken but are you referring Seth's WEngine?
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The 3rd slot for Jane-Seth feels so awkward that you can pretty much just clear endgame with both agents since it'd be more efficientl
I feel like Koleda is actually the third member of this setup since she comes in and does her EX atk and gets out super fast; She'd up the stun time i'd wager
It honestly could be more efficient because your bangboo could do more damage!
The only character that could fit the third slot is a support that can Assist Follow Up into Jane or Seth. And even then… yeah, you’re better off with just these two.
It also makes it cheaper to raise a usable team!
The only use I’ve found for the third agent is Rina, I just switch her in for the pen ratio before going into Jane combo. Plus her parry can help dodge some attacks Seth isn’t great for
You can do animation cancels with Seth. After the parry, use charge attack or press skill, and you can quick assist jane during the first frames of Seth's attacks. This way, Seth keeps his debuff, inflicts daze, and doesn't take too much field time
Yeah but you should only do this if Jane already has the shield, otherwise you won’t be able to get it because it’s only passed through quick assists or chain attacked triggered by his enhanced basic attack.
@lionel7360 That's the deal. You do get quick assist. It's a bit tricky to do because you have to press space at the last second of quick assist prompt, but after a few minutes in training, I'm doing that consistently. It's weird that not many ccs are talking about that
oh wow the timing is so tight to pull off but nice find
This duo is so fun to play and has such great synergy that honestly a third character often feels awkward and might be a dps loss if not played super optimally. The quick parry with Seth and immediate switch back to Jane is already plenty strong.
She is honestly SO fun to play. I love her animations.
But I've pulled for every character so far so I'm gonna have to skip the Sons of Calydon characters 😅
You’re me lol I’m still gonna wish on Caesar banner with any wishes I get from my “welkin” and in game currency, but I’m not spending again til Yanagi if she’s electro anomaly
i lost at hard pity and currently grinding for her. im incredibly jealous 😭😭
Jane's teams for 3rd slot are pretty limited right now - Rina, Lucy, or a stunner are the only decent options - makes sense that only Jane and Seth can clear so much!!
Hoping that Caesar/Burnice pairs well for a third slot, buffing attack + applying more physical/fire anomaly!!
Yeah I can't wait for both of them, I'm sure both would work really well as a third member!
Would grace be a bad third slot? She applies anomaly really fast, but I don’t know if she’ll do good disorder damage.
@@ramenfan21 imo, building grace to the point where she's impactful isnt really worth it for this team (unless youve already built her)
she takes too much field time and isnt really a support character
Truly a match made in heaven
in comparison which one is better? weeping gemini or rainforest? cuz i cant really infest in both since im building a team for her, and is there a situation when one is better than the other?
I prefer Weeping Gemini
For me I currently have it at level 50 with 5 stars.
Gives you an Advance Stat of ATK 22%
When afflicting an Attribute it increases your Anomoly Proficiency by 48, stacking up to 4 times
Rainforest is the opposite, while it gives you more Anamoly Proficiency as your advance stat.
For every 10 Energy consume (assuming you have 5 star Rainforest W-Engine) it gives you an ATK% buff of 4%. Stacking 10 times.
Yeah I have Gemini on grace and Jane and playing them together stacks the buff 2x faster
Weeping gemini is better if you are using a disorder team or hypercarry team. Its not great if youre using a stunner with jane
If possible try to get her signature w engine cause it’s so op and she can solo all the boss without other agents
I know your channel views have exploded since you did the Destiny raid guides but I miss pokemon....
I'm just waiting for legends ZA 😂, hopefully we get some news soon
cool bro, does your jane have the W-engine and is your jane c6 ?
I will tell u its not m6 jane u can see her assault damage is still low enough to be m6.😅 And as u can see her salchow jump is not 2
Literally shows at the end. It's c0 Jane with the BP w-engine, which is like 20% worse than her S rank W-engine IF it was even maxed out which it can't be.
ohhhhh thank u guys makes sense i didnt knew i could just S all of these just by using jane and seth.
The video literally had subtitles in the first 30 seconds, saying builds at the end of the video.
@@haroldmosley1751 yeah chill mb
Hai really nice run, can i know if i build seth with 4 piece anomaly and 2 energy set do you think it will perform like this?
Yeah it should be fine, that's what I was trying at first too but I didn't have good disks for it
How are you getting stacks of the attack buff? Neither of the wengines or disc sets appear to trigger that effect?
It's the current Shiyu Defense effect, whenever an anomaly is triggered it gives a stack of the buff
rina m0 grace m0 or lucy m2 which one for 3rd slot
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I'd go Rina if I had her
Lucy, rina is a pain to switch every 10 sec without m1
@@gestilyagreed, I used Rina cuz she's already somewhat built, but I just ended up ignoring her outside of chain attacks anyway.
Just waiting for new units cuz she can brute force for now w/o a third and I don't have the resources to build one anyway.
Right at the start of the video, how do you immediately give the shield and buff to Jane? Supposedly you only get those through the EX Skill or the Switch parry attack. The Hold normal should only shred 20% anomaly build up resistance. Am I missing something?
M2
M2 seth give him 75% at start
The hold normal attack gives u the quick assist option for ur dps (in this case Jane) which then gives them a shield. Ur correct in that u can get the shield through defensive assists with Seth, but his ex special does not. It does however gives Seth himself a shield while also filling up the bar that Seth needs to use his charge normal attack which shreds anomaly resistance and gives the quick assit option.
Technically speaking the shield is given whenever you quick assist, which is what the hold does, the reason I can do it at the start is because Seth's M2 gives him enough charge to use it right from the start. The EX skill only gives Seth the shield, but it does give the charge needed for the hold attack
Does Seth give anomaly build up debuff I thought he only increased proficiency
Yep, his 2nd passive
How do you use them in both teams?
You cant. He just edits out the run that doesnt include Seth and Jane.
Wish I had Jane 😭 I lost 3 50/50 in this game already
oof damn, don't worry though, you're luck is sure to turn around soon
@@Shanaha all my luck is in HSR I only lost 3 50/50 in that game I have been playing from the beginning 😭
Damn bro what? I lost 1 50/50 and i still havent come close to getting my first guaranteed as a f2p. This game is kinda stingy
I'm confused when you said don't forget to use Seth Ex to increase anomaly build up. What do you mean by that?
like reduce anomaly build up res? or you're referring the disorder
Yeah reduce the anomaly build up resistance which makes your anomaly build up rate increase
@@Shanaha uhhh can just do heavy basic attack to trigger that. So doing Ex is just for the build up shock.
I might be mistaken but are you referring Seth's WEngine?
ggg
Fyi, swapping to Seth Jane for anything other than the buff/debuff is a dps loss
Lucy solo can solo 😂