I like this obus very much like its cousin number 10 and number 18, this model was used by the Germans in World War II, the only difference is that due to the technological advance those wheels that looked like carriages were changed by rubber wheels similar to those of truck
I'm pretty sure it's an big ol' artillery piece drawn by horses. I imagine the relatively short barrel would let the enemy not know its movement until it's been fired.
Many of those shells due to productions problems were duds and even after firing they didn’t explode so the country to they say they find literally tons of shells.
@@klokar21 Hmm. Due to the problem in ammunition manufacturing (there are these "changes" or something) most of the shells delivered are imperfect, resulted in mostly duds or unexploded ordnance. The result forced the commander to ask for more and more ammunition from the factory in order to completely saturated the target area.
this is not at all accurate 1. that's not a big bertha, if it was, it would be 3x the size, transported in several parts towed by tractor tugs, and assembled in a prepared position 2. the way they just dragged it up a hill and immediately loaded and fired. They couldn't have emplaced, scoped, aimed and fired in the time it takes to unlatch the horses, even artillery today takes more than a few moments to set up 3. they're firing it on soft muddy ground. Most medium and heavy artillery in WWI needed a solid platform to fire off of so the recoil didn't push the chassis into the soil after repeated firing. They would have used wooden beams, metal bars, cobbled stone, anything at hand to keep the gun from burying itself 4. they left the cassions in front of the cannons during firing, in the most dangerous and inconvenient spot they could have put them. The crew would waste so much time walking around the entire gun each time they wanted to fire. Not just the incoming fire from enemies if they happen to be in line of sight is a risk, but chainfire can happen if hot gas ignites powder, the shock or recoil can topple the cart and spill ordinance, or the cart can simply roll away since it's on a hill. 5. pulling a howitzer up hill like that would have been much better suited for a tractor. Not saying they wouldn't use horses if they had them, but they would struggle much less with a traction engine, and with heavy artillery, they likely would have had the supporting equipment to do so. 6. the dirt below the guns when they fire says they didn't dig a recoil trench, so the mechanism could operate without hitting the ground. Without that, you put your gun at great risk for damage and breakages. At best, you would get maybe a dozen rounds off before the gun stopped functioning and became unuseable without major repairs
this is a movie, war horse, and about a boy's horse that was sold to the british army, and then this scene shows the horse carrying artillery, That is, they made the scene to show the horse
My man it’s literally not that deep, it’s a movie about an omnipotent horse that survives the first major war being waged on an industrial scale. It’s a Hollywood movie as well, so I can understand Steven Spielberg cutting up the footage so we wouldn’t have to see 25 minutes of artillery preparation and 2 weeks of land surveying.
Technically, this is a mortar, which is distinguished from a howitzer. Of course, many people call mortars howitzers, but their method and design are different.
@@sergioaste4204 a mortar is a gun designed to fire from about 45 degrees to 90 of elevation, a canon is designed to fire from 0 to 45 degrees of elevation and a howitzer is designed to go from 0 to 90 degrees.
These guns have an impressive recoil dampening system for their time, whereby the recoil is mostly taken up by the movement of the barrel rearwards, rather than the entire gun and carriage rolling backwards.
horses were literally bred for this you stupid new age soy man, same as dogs, you are the one torturing animals keeping them as inbred pets or trophies
Why would you go to all that trouble to drag these guns up to the top edge of the ridge? The increase in range for guns like this would be negligible. You're making it easier for counter-battery fire to locate your guns. You now have to haul your shells and powder up the hill to continue firing (and if you stockpile you're just creating a juicy target that will destroy your whole battery). There is now no room to build revetments or stack sandbags in front of your guns. This doesn't make sense other than to punish your men and horses for no reason.
The German 21 cm Morser was probably the most used heavy howitzer during the war. The allies had nothing like it and the Germans used it from 1914 through 1918.
@@justinmorgan2126Not bigger in shell weight, no concrete piercing shell, 5x shorter range, easier to detect by enemy forward observers since its closer to the front and it has a much slower rate of fire as per the wiki article you listed. One shot every 6 minutes for the French mortar and 1-2 rounds a minute for the German.
If you read the book the guns of august, the usual forts in the low countries held up the Germans advance......til the Germans rolled up with these things.....
The scene is cut to make it more compact and more action oriented. It would be boring setting up, having it firing at the correct position and loading it etc
@@thomasalvarez6456 No it wouldn't they just showed horses trotting along for like 5 minutes, what would it hurt to load the propellant charge after the projectile??? It takes a well trained crew mere seconds to do this action. And it wasn't cut or edited out either. The loader literally shut the breech immediately after the loading of the projectile, and they immediately raise the gun all in the one take. Its not that it was cut out in the editing, it was never filmed!!
@@thomasalvarez6456 Watch this ruclips.net/video/arAk1IZIkpQ/видео.html How long does it take to throw a propellant charge in after the projectile? Like half a second.
you actually do , your gun has a better view ,can fire at higher range and you can actually see your targets. thus ww1 you didnt have fancy targeting strategy that exclude seeing the actual target.
I was just wondering if that's accurate, because for example the Polish artillerymen serving in Imperial German Army had to learn and use German commands, to the point that the soldiers of Army of Greater Poland did not establish proper code in Polish until 1920s - when they were firing their guns against the Germans during Greater Poland Uprising in 1918/19, and against the bolsheviks in 1919/1920, all commands were given in German.
horses are thinking “you guys were smart enough to build a huge cannon but couldn’t think of a better way to move it around”
😂
Artillery tractors are in high demand and low supply so, horses
How many shells do we need to fire?
Kaiser: YES
This is a Morser 16, a German 21cm howitzer that was widely used during the war, though not sure why they pulling it from the front.
I like this obus very much like its cousin number 10 and number 18, this model was used by the Germans in World War II, the only difference is that due to the technological advance those wheels that looked like carriages were changed by rubber wheels similar to those of truck
Magellan Dufour isn't suppose it should be out on the battlefield it's range is 9km
are you sure? for me it looks like M-Gerät
Are you REALLY sure??? I swore it could've been a Mauser P38.
I'm pretty sure it's an big ol' artillery piece drawn by horses. I imagine the relatively short barrel would let the enemy not know its movement until it's been fired.
7 tons of pure *G E R M A N*
What's the name of this movie?
@@xuantoanpham3085 I think it's "War Horse"
This Kind of guns was calles "Dicke Bertha" by soldiers: "Fat Bertha"
@@ResasRandomStuff Negative. This is a Morser 16 ,technically a mortar. The Big Bertha was a 17" Siege Howitzer.
love that sceen. tbh the guns could have had a deeper sound..
Atleast no one complains about lack of recoil.
Did you ever hear a real drumfire...?
I think these morsers are deeply held into the ground to prevent strong recoil from misplacing itself.
@@Valtsuuu there are field guns that have thanks to their design low to minimum recoil.
For example the French 75mm field gun.
Fire at enemy : 30% miss
Fire at ex girlfriend house : 1000% hit
Plot twist: Your ex girlfriend is now your wive.
My favourite howitzer of WW1.A gitantic 7 ton artillery piece.German Mortar Artillery!
i assure you that no brit or frenchie ever said what you said xd
More likely to be the only one you know... as of ten minutes ago..
can this please be fired at my ex girlfriend her house? thanks in advance.
Lol
Coordinates...
Why tho? What happened
Airbursts or ground LMAO
Deutsche Englisch lol
I felt worse for the people getting hit by the gun than the horses pulling it
Well ... yeah then there's that 🤔
hmmmm right, but those POOR HORSES!
If this was in my country we woud have used eephants
@@janakapushpakumara7827 No! Put the artillery ON the elephants!!!
Elephant Artillery!
@@Teufer2 tank origin
The most feared word in war
“Artillery”
Gas is also up there, didnt cause anywhere near as many deaths as artillery but most veterans agree that dying by gas is possibly the worst way to go
@@FimbongBass but it can be avoided given enough time and preparation.
I don't know about artillery I think it's sniper?
Or “manned machine gun post”
Or “commencing human wave”
Such a beautiful piece of artillery
Many of those shells due to productions problems were duds and even after firing they didn’t explode so the country to they say they find literally tons of shells.
about 2/3 back then didn't even go off. Manufacturing quality changing has to do with it
can you say that again in english this time?
@@klokar21 Hmm. Due to the problem in ammunition manufacturing (there are these "changes" or something) most of the shells delivered are imperfect, resulted in mostly duds or unexploded ordnance. The result forced the commander to ask for more and more ammunition from the factory in order to completely saturated the target area.
This is from the movie "War Horse". A story about a horse's adventure throughout the Great War.
"adventure"
Not war horse
Is that what war horse is about?always thought it had something to do with cattle
Thank you .
Thank you.
WE HAVE TAKEN CHARLIE
This is short scene from movie named War horse
Thanks
Koník
Yes a very bad movie
The barrel was made from 1 inch MDF sections and it was powered by hydraulics
I got confused for a second when you said MDF because I was like mother Fucker that's wood not a gun barrel but then I realized what you meant lol
How to make rolling artillery up the hill exciting. :0
this is not at all accurate
1. that's not a big bertha, if it was, it would be 3x the size, transported in several parts towed by tractor tugs, and assembled in a prepared position
2. the way they just dragged it up a hill and immediately loaded and fired.
They couldn't have emplaced, scoped, aimed and fired in the time it takes to unlatch the horses, even artillery today takes more than a few moments to set up
3. they're firing it on soft muddy ground.
Most medium and heavy artillery in WWI needed a solid platform to fire off of so the recoil didn't push the chassis into the soil after repeated firing.
They would have used wooden beams, metal bars, cobbled stone, anything at hand to keep the gun from burying itself
4. they left the cassions in front of the cannons during firing, in the most dangerous and inconvenient spot they could have put them.
The crew would waste so much time walking around the entire gun each time they wanted to fire.
Not just the incoming fire from enemies if they happen to be in line of sight is a risk, but chainfire can happen if hot gas ignites powder, the shock or recoil can topple the cart and spill ordinance, or the cart can simply roll away since it's on a hill.
5. pulling a howitzer up hill like that would have been much better suited for a tractor.
Not saying they wouldn't use horses if they had them, but they would struggle much less with a traction engine, and with heavy artillery, they likely would have had the supporting equipment to do so.
6. the dirt below the guns when they fire says they didn't dig a recoil trench, so the mechanism could operate without hitting the ground.
Without that, you put your gun at great risk for damage and breakages.
At best, you would get maybe a dozen rounds off before the gun stopped functioning and became unuseable without major repairs
it`s a drama, not a documentary.
Also thats not big bertha thats another gun
this is a movie, war horse, and about a boy's horse that was sold to the british army, and then this scene shows the horse carrying artillery, That is, they made the scene to show the horse
Also German imperial army usually didn't speak Czech...
My man it’s literally not that deep, it’s a movie about an omnipotent horse that survives the first major war being waged on an industrial scale. It’s a Hollywood movie as well, so I can understand Steven Spielberg cutting up the footage so we wouldn’t have to see 25 minutes of artillery preparation and 2 weeks of land surveying.
I once modeled this very gun in SolidWorks for my super heavy Hetzer copy. Ahhh better days!
“We had to endure everything he threw at us.”
Technically, this is a mortar, which is distinguished from a howitzer. Of course, many people call mortars howitzers, but their method and design are different.
No, its artillery.
@@emtpilot132 Artillery is the general term.
it's like the austrian 305, a mortar/howitzer
@@sergioaste4204 a mortar is a gun designed to fire from about 45 degrees to 90 of elevation, a canon is designed to fire from 0 to 45 degrees of elevation and a howitzer is designed to go from 0 to 90 degrees.
@@butspan7618 Dont forget that most mortar are muzzle loaded.
This reminded me of Spirit Stallion of the CImarron and the music was felt very well placed.
This is from the movie war horse for those wondering, we watched this in history class when we finished the ww1 chapters
Lucky you
In WWI there were Cannons used this big, it is said, we couldn't rebuild them anymore - because we seem to have forgotten how...
Adding dignity to an otherwise vulgar brawl.
I was expected a lot more recoil. I didn't look like they anchored it to the ground, so that doesn't explain why there was so little recoil
These guns have an impressive recoil dampening system for their time, whereby the recoil is mostly taken up by the movement of the barrel rearwards, rather than the entire gun and carriage rolling backwards.
Because it's a movie
@@B61Mod12 thanks
Isn't it necessary to load any propellant, only the projectile? :) It wouldn't fire too far...
Yea that was a mistake
This, and the way to short time to target.
bf1 fans vs CoD fans
Nathaniel Hicks More like BF1 vs Verdun
I HATE TOUCAN cod is mostly kids bf1 is mostly 16 year olds
Elitemation unless it’s world at war
There's no WWI Call Of Duty yet 8 years later
Beste Kanone ever
It's a movie, it's a movie. I kept chanting watching how the horses struggled
horses were literally bred for this you stupid new age soy man, same as dogs, you are the one torturing animals keeping them as inbred pets or trophies
@@-_redacted_ That's awful and wrong. Been around draft horses quite a bit. We did not have them on the farm though.
@@KyleThill go admire some pugs cute breathing problems you weirdo
Self propelled howitzer with 4hp engine
Why would you go to all that trouble to drag these guns up to the top edge of the ridge? The increase in range for guns like this would be negligible. You're making it easier for counter-battery fire to locate your guns. You now have to haul your shells and powder up the hill to continue firing (and if you stockpile you're just creating a juicy target that will destroy your whole battery). There is now no room to build revetments or stack sandbags in front of your guns. This doesn't make sense other than to punish your men and horses for no reason.
They used the wrong artillery shells. Durrin ww1 the shells had a flat base. It was in ww2 that the shells had a taper
Daniel R no some shells did have explosive points like the taper
Wow youre so smart! Too bad no one cares LOL
Zachary Prichard too bad you are too stupid to comprehend
@@richardpickman7594 "no ones " !? speak for yourself...
@@richardpickman7594 Im 4 years ahead of you and this joke blew up
German ingenuity. Howitzer can fire shells without any propellent.
Been destroying these in Battlefield 1 all week.
21 cm Mörser 16?
Yes
Jawol
The German 21 cm Morser was probably the most used heavy howitzer during the war. The allies had nothing like it and the Germans used it from 1914 through 1918.
You're right we had the 24 cm mortar, bigger, better and more widely available...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9.45-inch_heavy_mortar
@@justinmorgan2126Not bigger in shell weight, no concrete piercing shell, 5x shorter range, easier to detect by enemy forward observers since its closer to the front and it has a much slower rate of fire as per the wiki article you listed. One shot every 6 minutes for the French mortar and 1-2 rounds a minute for the German.
If you read the book the guns of august, the usual forts in the low countries held up the Germans advance......til the Germans rolled up with these things.....
"We have taken ojective apples"
May i use this video? i need it for a video i've been making about Garibaldi brothers during WWI
Now, Imagine those German Soldiers as Orcs and the Howitzer as Grond - The Wolf's Head.
I remember this movie!
Czech language?
Wath is the Diameter of the Shell they are fireing?
210 milimeters
That sound was soo underwhelming XD. I know it's not a Schwerer Gustav, but I feel like that should've been louder.
I like the czech dabing
Haubitzen!
What Language are they trying to speak😂that was no German not in a thousand years
Mluvěj česky ty z*rde.
Wow. Holy moly. Thats a big Boy.
Little Hansel
They only loaded a projectile and no cartridge or propellant bags!!! LMFAO
Who was the film's technical/military advisor? Was it one of the horses?
these are czechs and they are desperate.
This is czech dab
They didn’t even load the propellent on the first one.
The scene is cut to make it more compact and more action oriented. It would be boring setting up, having it firing at the correct position and loading it etc
@@thomasalvarez6456 No it wouldn't they just showed horses trotting along for like 5 minutes, what would it hurt to load the propellant charge after the projectile??? It takes a well trained crew mere seconds to do this action.
And it wasn't cut or edited out either. The loader literally shut the breech immediately after the loading of the projectile, and they immediately raise the gun all in the one take. Its not that it was cut out in the editing, it was never filmed!!
@@thomasalvarez6456 Watch this
ruclips.net/video/arAk1IZIkpQ/видео.html
How long does it take to throw a propellant charge in after the projectile? Like half a second.
Now those are some weird wheels
lol they speak czech
бедная лошадка!
this movie is called war horse
Sound is 👌
Smoke weed everyday
Im stoned right now
Yo just put the credits of the film in it!
This is Movie?
What's is name?
"War Horse"
which movie is this?
War Horse
Poor horse....
Berta
Au ja, das ist geil! xD
i ain't going lie, why not use steam trators and not horses?
Your hearing loss is not service related
War horse great movie
Perfection means german technology
"Haubitzen!"
What is the name of this movie?
@JAMES JOHNSONJIMENEZ Thank you!
Need the original movie of this cutscene please
👍🏻good job
You don't position a howitzer on a hill where it can be hit by direct fire.
you actually do , your gun has a better view ,can fire at higher range and you can actually see your targets. thus ww1 you didnt have fancy targeting strategy that exclude seeing the actual target.
Oh poor soldiers they think this the last war
War machine:Wehrmacht
Who name type is howitzer please talk me
poor horses
Its big bertha
Is this a movie? If so what is the title of it?
Movie name: War Horse
Those look like tough horses to me could anyone tell me what breed they could be?. Am not sure what kind of horse the central powers used.
Movie is war horse
Film: War Horse
What for a movie are this?
What film is this from
Name of the film?
"War Horse"
War horse movie
Movie name please?
Howitzer moezer you.
What is this movie ???
What movie is this from?
I know you said this a hear ago but if by any chance you are still interested and don’t know the name, the movie is called “war horse”
What films this from?
War horse
movie name?
their voices are czech guess what im czech xDD
Gratuluji k českému občanství...
@@jager1026 vím no
I was just wondering if that's accurate, because for example the Polish artillerymen serving in Imperial German Army had to learn and use German commands, to the point that the soldiers of Army of Greater Poland did not establish proper code in Polish until 1920s - when they were firing their guns against the Germans during Greater Poland Uprising in 1918/19, and against the bolsheviks in 1919/1920, all commands were given in German.
@@gwiazdapioun2127 yeah, not exactly into that part but i think this is dubbed for the czechs
Name of the movie
War horse
moser kanone
+Jose Mari Rey *Mörser ;)
why is it in czech?
C’est quoi le film
What film is this please
"War Horse"