My daughter is a conservative Christian, and I'm not. When she decided to dress more modestly I thought she was going to look like a sister wife. But she actually always looks very cute. Kudos to these ladies who help people keep their faith and be beautiful at the same time.
Oh my goodness, Refinery, GOD BLESS YOU. Thank you for actually being so sensitive and inquisitive and open minded to the Jewish Faith-- actively asking interesting and unbiased questions about how Orthodox women really dress. So refreshing after the myriad of subjective, pessimistically painted videos I've seen here on youtube. You did a marvelous job, keep it up!
I love this. I love the fact that women are supporting each other even when they don't share the same religion. I really admire such a supportive actitute and of course the idea behind it.
Hey Refinery! Congratulations on being so eloquently scripted and beautifully produced. You guys definitely separate yourself from many other fashion chanels with your investigative approach to different types of style. I love and appreciate all of the research behind the cameras. Keep it going.
Thanks so much for the support, Michelle! It really means a lot and gives us the motivation to keep producing thoughtful, distinctive content for anyone curious about fashion. x
Yeah, it's so weird how Orthodox Jews and Muslims don't seem to realize how much they have in common. Never mind your religious wars and conflicts throughout history. You're both conservative and modest, and actually believe in the same god and came from the same Abrahamic roots.
Thank you for being so open to learning about this orthodox section of Judaism. Thank you for not speaking down to the women. Thank you for making this a piece of celebration and not painting Hasidism as only repressive. Thank you for allowing these women to speak, instead of speaking over them.
Not even my religion but I can't get over has absolutely AMAZING all these women are! So stylish and inspiring to think outside of the box. I love it !!!!!
Can I just please state emphatically that I love this series! More, more, more please! So interesting, inspiring and creative. Love, love, love. Did I say more please?
This is such a great series! Other documentaries about alternative fashions can come across as very judgmental and sometimes straight up disrespectful, but these are so fun! The questions seem to come from a place of genuine curiosity and the reporter always keeps such an open mind. I'm so happy to see videos like this, please keep up the good work!
Finally I can relate. I feel bad when ppl are like " if you follow your religion which makes us wear modestly. You'll never look good" that's stupid. Looking good isn't about how much you reveal to the world or how much you hide. N modesty is fashion just like any other fashion n I hope as a Muslim I see more of it n all the other fashions getting acceptable
More please!! This series is fun, informative and wonderfully scripted. Love how the host is able to present other people's cultures in a very understanding, respectful and unbiased way. Its a very rare combo and I will keep checking back for more! Love from Malaysia
I absolutely personally love modest dressing. Their designs are amazing! I love when people choose to dress in a fashion and style that highlights and defines the elegant lines without oppressing their bodies. I hope we do away with feeling we "have" to wear a certain fashion trend just to be "in the loop".
Currently binge watching this series. The commentary is beautiful. It depicts the depth of culture and tradition in fashion. Love the host too! Can't wait to see more.
i love this series! it really makes fashion something that's meant for everyone, refinery29 you're doing a super job of making fashion fun and individual. Thanks for helping me learn about the world and its fashions!
I loved seeing all these women support and empower each other. Building a comunity through fashion and being respectful and inclusive with each other's religion. Amazing queens.
I have been dressing modestly due to my Christian religion for close to 40 years. I design and sew my own clothes. It's refreshing to see these young women shout to the world, you really can do both at the same time!
This may be my 1st comment, ever. And I cannot believe I'm just seeing this 5 years later, but I HAVE to say, BRAVO!!! Thank you for presenting this in such a beautiful, cool, informative, respectful way. I have seen so many docs that judge beliefs, standards, traditions that they don't believe in or understand & present things as if the people need to be saved or freed from them. You gave it the respect it deserves & presented it as the beautiful thing that it really is. Kudos @Refinery29!! You guys are the coolest!!!
I find it very beautiful how they don't only look for inspiration what fits their modesty standards and then convert it in to it! I think it really keeps ideas fresh and they're clothes are stunning! I don't follow modesty as strictly as these ladies, but would love to grab some of their creations.
I use to follow Refine 29 on facebook but got frustrated with the lack of intellectual and open minded topic posted- this series is incredible - it really discuses women and women issues from the cultural or fashion side of things - but I do wish Refine 29 would cause on Politics as well - but this is an amazing start - I will survive just because of this series!
This is very interesting, I'm just confused by how they said cover knees, elbows, and collar bone but both of them had their elbows out in almost every outfit.
They mentioned the basics that the commandment boils down to, but it goes beyond that it's also tightness of dress/skirt/shirt...color....its very tough and not so simple like they made it sound. It's something that is very commendable
I love love love this story. I really enjoyed the way the video was shot and energy the host showed while doing the story. Looking forward to watching more videos.Good job.
These comments are so much more positive than I would have thought, which makes me really happy. There’s so much hate of Orthodox and Chasidic Judaism. It makes me really proud of my faith to see women empowering themselves through it🥰
Me as a muslem who live in indonesia, find that a lots of indonesian muslem use hijab fashion, take look dian pelangi, she is a fashion designer for muslem clothes i indonesia
Yes, yes! This is the kind of content we need more of!. Especially the dialogue with the Jewish, Christian and Muslim women. It shouldn't be seen as strange or "old" when you dress modest. If you practice a faith where people choose to cover up or even if you just cover up because you feel more comfortable that way, it shouldn't be a problem. Hijab, wig etc.. they're still all beautiful women
When you make a wig syntethic or natural there are no materials that would count as not kosher. That’s just my opinion, I might be wrong. It’s simply a way to cover your hair, becuse that’s between you your husband and God. I know jewish women whom buy their wigs from non jewish shops. 🤷🏻♀️
Just seems tough considering its supposed to be done in grace and in God's name, the wig indutry is linked to human trafficking, slavery etc.. just my opinion but seems very hypocritical
I live in Hungary, we don’t have history of slavery . Wigs are mostly for women with total hairloss from chemotheraphy. And only a few jewish woman wears them. In America it’s a different story. From the videos that I’ve seen the jews have their own wig shops. If you’re from an other culture then maybe you should consider where do you get your wigs at and why. The history is important, because if you don’t understand it you might disrespect someone without even knowing it.
@@topazmolnar893 I dont understand your comment... i am saying the human hair industry is genereally disgusting. The wig situation in Hungary is not relevant to my comment?
modesty is something that comes from within.we don't need to cover ourselves to show things that are more important and powerful when shown through our character and personality! we have o body and we need to celebrate it and feel happy and comfortable.there is a reason why people have bodies and elbows and collarbones otherwise we would all be floating souls in the universe.the way to love our selves is through embracing our human nature which is body-mind-soul as a whole.and if someone believes that women should be covered to be pure its them who look at us and thing of impure stuff that should cover their eyes and impure minds!!!
The two concepts are not at all mutually exclusive, though. Women are not required to be empowered in only the way you deem acceptable, that's really unfair- especially since you are assuming that covering up = shame. Quite the opposite. The empowerment is the same on both ends of the spectrum: this body is MINE, and it's beautiful, and I get to share it how I choose because I own it. The added beauty on Judaism's and Islam's end is introducing the concept of The Divine into the picture. I was given this beautiful body, it's a gift and holy. It's sacred- not impure.
+Talia G. First of all you assumed that covering up for me equals shame.I never said something like that.Total freedom=power and your choices are limited,so your freedom is gone ,when you want to obey in some rules given that tells you to cover certain areas of your body.At the same time you have the freedom to treat your body as you want which is something that i never disagreed on.Our bodies are sacred exactly as they are ,because for me sacred is life and we are all connected with the mysteries and the beauty of the whole universe.There are so many things to think and do and have fun with, even when you want to dress up and by starting this joyful ride by having to cover things first and then think what you really want to wear that makes this process a lot more complicated and and less fun than total freedom gives you the opportunity to do
+AnOuRieL85 That's your freedom, and that's truly wonderful for you, I'm happy that you've found that. It's possible that (without being confined-and I used the word shame because you referenced impurity, impurity= a shameful thing.) These women are empowered *and* think differently than you do. You're associating the cover with negative- and that's not where it comes from or how it works in this specific case. Sometimes, yes, culturally you would be correct. But there are other viable sources of empowerment besides your definition of freedom, that's what I'm saying. If a woman says: I am confined, I am not free, believe her- and plenty of women say that- let's unite and fight for them. If she says the opposite- MOST of the time, it means she's intelligent and educated enough to simply have made a different choice than you which is equally OK.
Married women choose to keep their head covered. I’ve seen women cover with wigs that match their natural color or a scarf. My sister in law practices this and when we go out she wears a wig but when she visits me at my house she does not.
they have amazing style! i don't have any restriction on how i'm supposed to dress but i don't know how to dress up, still! thank you for this episode, i might try to dress like them because they are inspiring! and their designs :o very good
Khalil Khalidy well....technically they're covering their real hair and they still get the benefit of styling it and brushing hair without having to show they're real hair, so it's like...a win-win? If that makes sense
Jemima Kelley , ( that was my Maiden name, not many Kelley spellings)Re: your comment, I believe that is 100% based on the individual. if you unfortunately have thin greasy ,hard to manage hair , thick,coarse,frizzy hair or etc ,but absolutely, regret free can purchase a beautiful, wig that is what you wish,hope, or covet your own Go-d given locks to appear as, that's just an excuse for vanity. A hat, scarf ,etc. covers your hair as is required but it does not put a " more attractive false" version of you appearence to the public at large. A wig is an accessorie that is to soley fool the public or other, that your hair looks like that very expensive , well coiffed wig. Why not add in , only my husband and family may know the shape of my body. So you can bind your chest or wear a padded push up bra. Even under modest clothing , the precept is exactly the same. No women really wears a ratty , undone wig, no woman. So clearly it could be conceived that your husband finds your long thick ,beautifully colored and coiffed wig, far more enticing than your own natural locks. As well , no where does the G-d Almighty, state women, cover your heads with the hair of others, your sister humans, or animals, only to cover it as respect in service and prayer. I do not say this in animosity, or to be disrespectfull of your traditions regarding your faith, nor to insult you( or your hair) I genuinely have much admiration for your devotion to G-d and family and community. I just simply do not understand how this particular tradition came about. When I am in a Holy place I cover my hair, when I pray, I cover my hair. it being in my and recognized tradition that is it good and Holy to do so. Before the presence of G-d and in services as a respect before G-d and to draw no undue attention upon myself. So I only seek understanding and no diservice or ill will. If you desire to answer me. Thank you , regardless if you have the time or will to engage with me.:)
think knot I hope this resolves all concerns. It's an article I read, and I can give you the source if you're interested. Question: I heard an anthropologist talking about shaitels (wigs). He said how ironic it is that observant Jewish women wear wigs. In biblical Judaism, the rule was that married women should cover their hair in order to be modest and unattractive. In more recent times, women wear wigs, which are sometimes more attractive than natural hair. So wearing a wig actually defeats the whole purpose of covering the hair! He was giving this as an example of how cultures forget the reasons behind their ancient traditions, and customs can evolve in a way that contradicts their original intent. Do you have any comments? Answer: That anthropologist has not only mistaken a wig for real hair, but has also confused true modesty for his own version. He equates modesty with unattractiveness, but that is his definition, not Judaism's. From the Jewish perspective, modesty has nothing to do with being unattractive. Rather, modesty is a means to create privacy. And that is what a wig achieves. Modesty has nothing to do with being unattractive The hair-covering was never intended to make a married woman look ugly. Beauty is a divine gift, and Jewish tradition encourages both men and women to care for their appearance and always look presentable. Jewish tradition also encourages modesty; not in order to detract from our beauty, but rather to channel our beauty and attractiveness so it be saved for where it belongs -- within marriage. By covering her hair, the married woman makes a statement: "I am not available. You can see me but I am not open to the public. Even my hair, the most obvious and visible part of me, is not for your eyes." The hair-covering has a profound effect on the wearer. It creates a psychological barrier, a cognitive distance between her and strangers. Her beauty becomes visible but inconspicuous; she is attractive but unavailable. The wig achieves the desired effect exactly, because a wig allows a woman to cover all her hair, while maintaining her attractive appearance. She can be proud of the way she looks without compromising her privacy. And even if her wig looks so real as to be mistaken for natural hair, she knows that no one is looking at the real her. She has created a private space, and only she decides who to let into that space. Perhaps in other religions modesty and beauty don't mix. This is not the Jewish view. True beauty, inner beauty, needs modesty to protect it and allow it to thrive.
one important part in the Judaism modesty is to not show the gap between the legs, that's why they always were skirts... but she wore jeans under a skirt that didn't cover her knees so it can't be count as modest as it should be specially to the Hasidic
I'm not hating or anything but I'm not sure how this is seen as ok but when Muslim women cover up it's seen as being oppressed I'm a Muslim girl and I don't feel oppressed
Rym Gho I am a Jewish young woman. I am not oppressed. I chose to dress modestly. It makes me feel good. I like how I look. After hearing what my clergy has said about how they expect me to dress I thought about it and I dress more modestly. I have found a lot of cute modest clothing to wear when I went to pick out new clothes a couple months ago. I am proud of my Jewish faith!
The thing is Muslim girls have been told their entire life that women who do not dress modest are whores and sluts so it isn't really free will but more brain washing
@@pachamaridamofasat7803 you're mixing religion and culture. I'm Muslim, I don't wear a scarf and my own father doesn't even feel comfy (and we're practicing Muslims lol) about the headscarf thing so I was never encouraged to wear it . Some other Muslims (most of them) think that the headscarf is mandatory but they don't ask their daughters to wear it. So, when you'll be in a culture where headscarf is common, it's normal to tend to wear it ... If you're in another culture (like mine in Morocco) where there's diversity, you'll find diverse clothing style... Now in some my regions in my country, it's more common to wear so you'll find more women wearing it. And what about those who say women who don't wear it are sluts? Good news (lol, I'm being sarcastic here): you're right, they do exist and they're the (extremely loud) minority, they're just misogynistics and they also exist in the most "open" and developed countries, it's just that in these said countries, they're quickly silenced because of legal constraints .
I’m a pantheist witch that likes to wear as little clothing as possible because that’s how I like to be. I love that these women find their power in modesty. Here’s to all who find their path in love and light, and let’s celebrate all ways!
+karmakameleon113 The idea that elbows were considered sexual was generated thousands of years ago... no reason to try to understand it, it's just what the bible says...
+karmakameleon113 All the rules they abide by are from biblical texts, it doesn't necessarily need to make sense, but for them there is a sense of spiritual dignity in following those rules. They are proud people.
+karmakameleon113 Some sects within the Hassidic group do consider the ankles as a must to be covered as they can cause sin. Some sects though do not adhere to those restrictions. All sects follow their own Rabbi's guidelines on what should be covered.
This is very cool. I've never looked at the Jewish community as being repressive to women. They're a seemingly nice, down to earth community. They always smile and speak to me. But what I'd really want to know is how to make those wigs. As a hairstylist I know just how serious Jewish women are about their hair so I know those wigs are crafted to perfection. Yep.
@@suzanahas4740 I saw that documentary, it was really good, and eye opening. I think it's very sad that some women are expected to marry, and have children as soon as they reach adulthood. Not everyone just naturally wants to be a wife, and a mother. I honestly think I'd rather be a nun in a convent that get married, and have kids, not that I necessarily want to be a nun, because what I really enjoy is to be a solitary person.
I recently started following mimi and mushky on Instagram. Then I open RUclips and this video is on my recommend list! I started watching and then I realized I know these girls!!
I see this as a bridge from Orthodox Jews and NYC... Modesty can be very fashionable... And these girls are amazing... They need to be noticed... I think it can help people see it as NON oppressive.
In Paris I saw a clearly Muslem woman, She was wearing modest clothes, but it included a bright yellow head scarf and a matching yellow garment around her waist that looked kind of like a short corset. It was hot.
THANK YOU THANK YOU I AM A VERY MODEST WOMEN, HAVE BEEN ALL MY LIFE. I DONT LIKE PRINTS I LOVE SOLID COLORS I ACTUALLY DRESS LIKE A NUN, I'VE BEEN ASK SEVERAL TIMES IF ONE , MY RESPOSND IS ALWAYS, NO I JUST DRESS VERY MODES. MY MOTHER ALWAYS SAID TO OUR BODY IS OUR TEMPLE !! SO THANK YOU THANK YOU MAKING THIS SYMPLE ,EASY CLEAN CLOTHES THANK YOU
Mind blown I never even realized that Mary Kate and Ashley are Hasidic Jew and other modestly dressed religions or preferences fashion icons ... even looking at their website for the row all outfits are covered up and they even have people in hajibs ...that’s so cool...it’s smart as well to cater to everyone
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My daughter is a conservative Christian, and I'm not. When she decided to dress more modestly I thought she was going to look like a sister wife. But she actually always looks very cute. Kudos to these ladies who help people keep their faith and be beautiful at the same time.
This whole thing is utter blasphemy
David Watkins why?
@@davidwatkins204 bruh
@@davidwatkins204 grow up!
That’s cool!!
Oh my goodness, Refinery, GOD BLESS YOU. Thank you for actually being so sensitive and inquisitive and open minded to the Jewish Faith-- actively asking interesting and unbiased questions about how Orthodox women really dress. So refreshing after the myriad of subjective, pessimistically painted videos I've seen here on youtube. You did a marvelous job, keep it up!
I love this. I love the fact that women are supporting each other even when they don't share the same religion. I really admire such a supportive actitute and of course the idea behind it.
Hey Refinery!
Congratulations on being so eloquently scripted and beautifully produced. You guys definitely separate yourself from many other fashion chanels with your investigative approach to different types of style. I love and appreciate all of the research behind the cameras. Keep it going.
Thanks so much for the support, Michelle! It really means a lot and gives us the motivation to keep producing thoughtful, distinctive content for anyone curious about fashion. x
I think that modest fashion would be a great way to bring together Muslims and Jews, particularly women
I agree!
Yes, i am muslim and couldn't agree more
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Yeah, it's so weird how Orthodox Jews and Muslims don't seem to realize how much they have in common. Never mind your religious wars and conflicts throughout history. You're both conservative and modest, and actually believe in the same god and came from the same Abrahamic roots.
yes 👏🏽
Thank you for being so open to learning about this orthodox section of Judaism. Thank you for not speaking down to the women. Thank you for making this a piece of celebration and not painting Hasidism as only repressive. Thank you for allowing these women to speak, instead of speaking over them.
Not even my religion but I can't get over has absolutely AMAZING all these women are! So stylish and inspiring to think outside of the box. I love it !!!!!
Can I just please state emphatically that I love this series! More, more, more please! So interesting, inspiring and creative. Love, love, love. Did I say more please?
Yes, yes, yes, you got it! More on the way!
+Refinery29 Why are there no more :(
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This is such a great series! Other documentaries about alternative fashions can come across as very judgmental and sometimes straight up disrespectful, but these are so fun! The questions seem to come from a place of genuine curiosity and the reporter always keeps such an open mind. I'm so happy to see videos like this, please keep up the good work!
+neon471 I agree. Well said Neon471
Finally I can relate. I feel bad when ppl are like " if you follow your religion which makes us wear modestly. You'll never look good" that's stupid. Looking good isn't about how much you reveal to the world or how much you hide. N modesty is fashion just like any other fashion n I hope as a Muslim I see more of it n all the other fashions getting acceptable
Yes exactly!, I personally don't share the view of those people at al. I've seen so many Muslim women look so beautiful in modest clothing,
SONE Tsu True! You can still have style and be conservative✌🏿
This is one of the few videos on our culture that was able to present the information accurately and in an informative manner. Thank you.
Jacob Niebloom : thats logical!
These two fashion designer women are Rabanit !!!
Jacob Niebloom 😊😊😊
I love this. Mazoltov
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I love this. I have to say that I think these are the most meaningful and respectful fashion documentaries I've come across.
I agree.
OMG IBTIHAJ MUHAMMAD!!!! She's an inspiration and an incredible fencer (and Olympian)!!! Glad to see her make an appearance.
Caitlin Klose I know I’m commenting way late but I also got so excited to see her!! Amazing fencer!
More please!! This series is fun, informative and wonderfully scripted. Love how the host is able to present other people's cultures in a very understanding, respectful and unbiased way. Its a very rare combo and I will keep checking back for more!
Love from Malaysia
I absolutely personally love modest dressing. Their designs are amazing!
I love when people choose to dress in a fashion and style that highlights and defines the elegant lines without oppressing their bodies. I hope we do away with feeling we "have" to wear a certain fashion trend just to be "in the loop".
I LOVE learning more about my Jewish heritage!!!
Currently binge watching this series. The commentary is beautiful. It depicts the depth of culture and tradition in fashion. Love the host too! Can't wait to see more.
How wonderful it is to see women of different cultures and faith relate so beautifully.!
The styles remind me a lot of what's popular in Seoul. Long, loosely draping, covering a lot of the upper body.
i love this series! it really makes fashion something that's meant for everyone, refinery29 you're doing a super job of making fashion fun and individual. Thanks for helping me learn about the world and its fashions!
You're very welcome, we love spreading the word! x
This is so interesting and cool!! I had no idea about the Hasidic fashion world...it's actually really nice!
I loved seeing all these women support and empower each other. Building a comunity through fashion and being respectful and inclusive with each other's religion. Amazing queens.
I have been dressing modestly due to my Christian religion for close to 40 years. I design and sew my own clothes. It's refreshing to see these young women shout to the world, you really can do both at the same time!
These clothes look beautiful and modest! Though I'm not Jewish, I'd love to wear these clothes.
You got it spot on ! It's not everyday that a style outlet portrays orthodox women in a postive light let alone most accurate.
This may be my 1st comment, ever. And I cannot believe I'm just seeing this 5 years later, but I HAVE to say, BRAVO!!! Thank you for presenting this in such a beautiful, cool, informative, respectful way. I have seen so many docs that judge beliefs, standards, traditions that they don't believe in or understand & present things as if the people need to be saved or freed from them. You gave it the respect it deserves & presented it as the beautiful thing that it really is. Kudos @Refinery29!! You guys are the coolest!!!
I love how they bring women together from all faiths. This is a wonderful organization.
I loved seeing people of different faiths coming together for this! Love the series :)
I'm a Muslim Woman and seeing modest fashion letting us be a part of the fashion word while keeping up with our culture is very refreshing!
Honestly, modest clothing lines are what can so beautifully bring together all of our cultures, and I love it.
Really really loving this series!! LOVE that Refinery29 is getting into youtube fashion/beauty culture.
I find it very beautiful how they don't only look for inspiration what fits their modesty standards and then convert it in to it! I think it really keeps ideas fresh and they're clothes are stunning! I don't follow modesty as strictly as these ladies, but would love to grab some of their creations.
this is amazing. I am a modest person and would truly like to see more options in modest clothing line
Leaders of the world take NOTE! This is how Humans should behave... this made me smile 😀😁
Beautifully done. I'm not a fan of the silhouettes, but I love the openness of both the interviewer and the designers. Brava!
Awesome I’m from Brooklyn and I am so glad to see women uniting in fashion
I am self conscious about my weight and like the styles offered to be forgiving of my flaws.. I am Catholic and love the flowing beautiful lines.
I use to follow Refine 29 on facebook but got frustrated with the lack of intellectual and open minded topic posted- this series is incredible - it really discuses women and women issues from the cultural or fashion side of things - but I do wish Refine 29 would cause on Politics as well - but this is an amazing start - I will survive just because of this series!
This is very interesting, I'm just confused by how they said cover knees, elbows, and collar bone but both of them had their elbows out in almost every outfit.
They mentioned the basics that the commandment boils down to, but it goes beyond that it's also tightness of dress/skirt/shirt...color....its very tough and not so simple like they made it sound. It's something that is very commendable
I love this!!!!! Uggggg I found something positive ❤️❤️❤️fashion has no religion no race what’s better than this:)) love love loveeeee😘😘
The model in those photos was so gorgeous!!!
I love love love this story. I really enjoyed the way the video was shot and energy the host showed while doing the story. Looking forward to watching more videos.Good job.
These comments are so much more positive than I would have thought, which makes me really happy. There’s so much hate of Orthodox and Chasidic Judaism. It makes me really proud of my faith to see women empowering themselves through it🥰
make more of these!!! binge-watching this for like 40 minutes now
I was just thinking while watching it that muslim women would love their stuff n lo and behold there are a bunch at the end of the video :D
I'm from a Muslim family and I was thinking that too!
Me as a muslem who live in indonesia, find that a lots of indonesian muslem use hijab fashion, take look dian pelangi, she is a fashion designer for muslem clothes i indonesia
me too lmao
Yes, yes! This is the kind of content we need more of!. Especially the dialogue with the Jewish, Christian and Muslim women. It shouldn't be seen as strange or "old" when you dress modest. If you practice a faith where people choose to cover up or even if you just cover up because you feel more comfortable that way, it shouldn't be a problem. Hijab, wig etc.. they're still all beautiful women
Finally videos about fashion that are smart, fresh and elegant! Please make some more!
This brings ideas to my head for Jews and Muslims and all modest people to connect through fashion
This is such a wicked series! So interesting! Thank you :)
The human hair industry is pretty dark, abusive and disgusting. Do they have kosher wigs?
When you make a wig syntethic or natural there are no materials that would count as not kosher. That’s just my opinion, I might be wrong. It’s simply a way to cover your hair, becuse that’s between you your husband and God. I know jewish women whom buy their wigs from non jewish shops. 🤷🏻♀️
Just seems tough considering its supposed to be done in grace and in God's name, the wig indutry is linked to human trafficking, slavery etc.. just my opinion but seems very hypocritical
I live in Hungary, we don’t have history of slavery . Wigs are mostly for women with total hairloss from chemotheraphy. And only a few jewish woman wears them. In America it’s a different story. From the videos that I’ve seen the jews have their own wig shops. If you’re from an other culture then maybe you should consider where do you get your wigs at and why. The history is important, because if you don’t understand it you might disrespect someone without even knowing it.
Also most of the wigs are made from shiynthetic materials, and these are the most commons to buy in Hungary. I’m not sure about America or Israel.
@@topazmolnar893 I dont understand your comment... i am saying the human hair industry is genereally disgusting. The wig situation in Hungary is not relevant to my comment?
modesty is something that comes from within.we don't need to cover ourselves to show things that are more important and powerful when shown through our character and personality! we have o body and we need to celebrate it and feel happy and comfortable.there is a reason why people have bodies and elbows and collarbones otherwise we would all be floating souls in the universe.the way to love our selves is through embracing our human nature which is body-mind-soul as a whole.and if someone believes that women should be covered to be pure its them who look at us and thing of impure stuff that should cover their eyes and impure minds!!!
The two concepts are not at all mutually exclusive, though. Women are not required to be empowered in only the way you deem acceptable, that's really unfair- especially since you are assuming that covering up = shame. Quite the opposite. The empowerment is the same on both ends of the spectrum: this body is MINE, and it's beautiful, and I get to share it how I choose because I own it. The added beauty on Judaism's and Islam's end is introducing the concept of The Divine into the picture. I was given this beautiful body, it's a gift and holy. It's sacred- not impure.
+Talia G. First of all you assumed that covering up for me equals shame.I never said something like that.Total freedom=power and your choices are limited,so your freedom is gone ,when you want to obey in some rules given that tells you to cover certain areas of your body.At the same time you have the freedom to treat your body as you want which is something that i never disagreed on.Our bodies are sacred exactly as they are ,because for me sacred is life and we are all connected with the mysteries and the beauty of the whole universe.There are so many things to think and do and have fun with, even when you want to dress up and by starting this joyful ride by having to cover things first and then think what you really want to wear that makes this process a lot more complicated and and less fun than total freedom gives you the opportunity to do
+AnOuRieL85 That's your freedom, and that's truly wonderful for you, I'm happy that you've found that. It's possible that (without being confined-and I used the word shame because you referenced impurity, impurity= a shameful thing.) These women are empowered *and* think differently than you do. You're associating the cover with negative- and that's not where it comes from or how it works in this specific case. Sometimes, yes, culturally you would be correct. But there are other viable sources of empowerment besides your definition of freedom, that's what I'm saying. If a woman says: I am confined, I am not free, believe her- and plenty of women say that- let's unite and fight for them. If she says the opposite- MOST of the time, it means she's intelligent and educated enough to simply have made a different choice than you which is equally OK.
Agreed. Videos like this make me cringe.
thanks its great to see people like me in this video i am chassidic and proud!
I just have to say: i 💘 how supportive and understanding their husbands are. Amd how they dont sabotage or make it about themselves
Once again this is such a great concept! I love the series, and I can't wait to see more!
Very informative and made me look at the modest style in a whole new way. Also, the designers are super fabulous :)
I LOVED THIS. So interesting, educational, and SO RESPECTFUL. Good job Refinery 29!!!
this is so cool. i love these girls. do your thing, the world is changing, and make it fit your needs!
Gosh I love this series so much!!!! Amazing work! Thank you for your videos :)
Fantastic and fascinating! Thank you for the insight!
I didn't get the wig part they cover their hair with a hair ?
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Yes, the point is that hair is fine to show just not your real hair. That is private.
Married women choose to keep their head covered. I’ve seen women cover with wigs that match their natural color or a scarf. My sister in law practices this and when we go out she wears a wig but when she visits me at my house she does not.
You mean just like a Hijab?!!
They do it so they can keep their hair private, for their husband and family
Married (mostly orthodox) Jewish women wear wigs but they also wear hats or headscarves! It is just a tradition such as the kippah :-)
I love modesty I love that ! I’m Christian, Pentecostal Apostolic we also follow modesty rules and I’m greatful for you !
they have amazing style! i don't have any restriction on how i'm supposed to dress but i don't know how to dress up, still! thank you for this episode, i might try to dress like them because they are inspiring! and their designs :o very good
I thought this video was on point !!! Really captured my religion in the tru light and was fun to watch! Thanks
I love this series! I love seeing the impact fashion has on other people it's so inspiring thank you!
covering hair is to conceal woman's modesty .
i get that .
but covering hair with hair defeats the whole purpose if not worse
Exactly...some people update their religions like you would update anti virus on your computer....#crazzzy
Khalil Khalidy well....technically they're covering their real hair and they still get the benefit of styling it and brushing hair without having to show they're real hair, so it's like...a win-win? If that makes sense
Jemima Kelley , ( that was my Maiden name, not many Kelley spellings)Re: your comment, I believe that is 100% based on the individual. if you unfortunately have thin greasy ,hard to manage hair , thick,coarse,frizzy hair or etc ,but absolutely, regret free can purchase a beautiful, wig that is what you wish,hope, or covet your own Go-d given locks to appear as, that's just an excuse for vanity.
A hat, scarf ,etc. covers your hair as is required but it does not put a " more attractive false" version of you appearence to the public at large. A wig is an accessorie that is to soley fool the public or other, that your hair looks like that very expensive , well coiffed wig.
Why not add in , only my husband and family may know the shape of my body. So you can bind your chest or wear a padded push up bra. Even under modest clothing , the precept is exactly the same.
No women really wears a ratty , undone wig, no woman. So clearly it could be conceived that your husband finds your long thick ,beautifully colored and coiffed wig, far more enticing than your own natural locks.
As well , no where does the G-d Almighty, state women, cover your heads with the hair of others, your sister humans, or animals, only to cover it as respect in service and prayer.
I do not say this in animosity, or to be disrespectfull of your traditions regarding your faith, nor to insult you( or your hair) I genuinely have much admiration for your devotion to G-d and family and community. I just simply do not understand how this particular tradition came about.
When I am in a Holy place I cover my hair, when I pray, I cover my hair. it being in my and recognized tradition that is it good and Holy to do so. Before the presence of G-d and in services as a respect before G-d and to draw no undue attention upon myself.
So I only seek understanding and no diservice or ill will. If you desire to answer me. Thank you , regardless if you have the time or will to engage with me.:)
think knot I hope this resolves all concerns. It's an article I read, and I can give you the source if you're interested.
Question:
I heard an anthropologist talking about shaitels (wigs). He said how ironic it is that observant Jewish women wear wigs. In biblical Judaism, the rule was that married women should cover their hair in order to be modest and unattractive. In more recent times, women wear wigs, which are sometimes more attractive than natural hair. So wearing a wig actually defeats the whole purpose of covering the hair! He was giving this as an example of how cultures forget the reasons behind their ancient traditions, and customs can evolve in a way that contradicts their original intent. Do you have any comments?
Answer:
That anthropologist has not only mistaken a wig for real hair, but has also confused true modesty for his own version. He equates modesty with unattractiveness, but that is his definition, not Judaism's. From the Jewish perspective, modesty has nothing to do with being unattractive. Rather, modesty is a means to create privacy. And that is what a wig achieves.
Modesty has nothing to do with being unattractive The hair-covering was never intended to make a married woman look ugly. Beauty is a divine gift, and Jewish tradition encourages both men and women to care for their appearance and always look presentable. Jewish tradition also encourages modesty; not in order to detract from our beauty, but rather to channel our beauty and attractiveness so it be saved for where it belongs -- within marriage.
By covering her hair, the married woman makes a statement: "I am not available. You can see me but I am not open to the public. Even my hair, the most obvious and visible part of me, is not for your eyes."
The hair-covering has a profound effect on the wearer. It creates a psychological barrier, a cognitive distance between her and strangers. Her beauty becomes visible but inconspicuous; she is attractive but unavailable.
The wig achieves the desired effect exactly, because a wig allows a woman to cover all her hair, while maintaining her attractive appearance. She can be proud of the way she looks without compromising her privacy. And even if her wig looks so real as to be mistaken for natural hair, she knows that no one is looking at the real her. She has created a private space, and only she decides who to let into that space.
Perhaps in other religions modesty and beauty don't mix. This is not the Jewish view. True beauty, inner beauty, needs modesty to protect it and allow it to thrive.
Zoey Danielle You're very welcome. :) I really appreciate it!
one important part in the Judaism modesty is to not show the gap between the legs, that's why they always were skirts... but she wore jeans under a skirt that didn't cover her knees so it can't be count as modest as it should be specially to the Hasidic
I'm not hating or anything but I'm not sure how this is seen as ok but when Muslim women cover up it's seen as being oppressed I'm a Muslim girl and I don't feel oppressed
Rym Gho I am a Jewish young woman. I am not oppressed. I chose to dress modestly. It makes me feel good. I like how I look. After hearing what my clergy has said about how they expect me to dress I thought about it and I dress more modestly. I have found a lot of cute modest clothing to wear when I went to pick out new clothes a couple months ago. I am proud of my Jewish faith!
The thing is Muslim girls have been told their entire life that women who do not dress modest are whores and sluts so it isn't really free will but more brain washing
@@pachamaridamofasat7803 how do you know? You are not a muslim yourself
us against the world for me it’s the covering your whole face. If you love it then who cares
@@pachamaridamofasat7803 you're mixing religion and culture.
I'm Muslim, I don't wear a scarf and my own father doesn't even feel comfy (and we're practicing Muslims lol) about the headscarf thing so I was never encouraged to wear it .
Some other Muslims (most of them) think that the headscarf is mandatory but they don't ask their daughters to wear it.
So, when you'll be in a culture where headscarf is common, it's normal to tend to wear it ... If you're in another culture (like mine in Morocco) where there's diversity, you'll find diverse clothing style... Now in some my regions in my country, it's more common to wear so you'll find more women wearing it.
And what about those who say women who don't wear it are sluts? Good news (lol, I'm being sarcastic here): you're right, they do exist and they're the (extremely loud) minority, they're just misogynistics and they also exist in the most "open" and developed countries, it's just that in these said countries, they're quickly silenced because of legal constraints .
I cant believe they got Ibtihaj in this video...shes an absolute icon
To quote Ginger Spice, “This is the gift of age, as you get older you get the conference to cover up.”
Wonderful! Hijabi here, ladies. Much love to you.♡
Just had a Style Out There marathon. I love the series! More please!
Do they have a website? I'd like to see their clothing :)
YES and THANK YOU! Love these modest, but stylish clothes!
I’m a pantheist witch that likes to wear as little clothing as possible because that’s how I like to be. I love that these women find their power in modesty. Here’s to all who find their path in love and light, and let’s celebrate all ways!
Can someone please explain to me why the elbows are considered sexual? This is a serious question. Thanks.
And why not the ankles? I know ankles are considered sexual in some countries.
+karmakameleon113 The idea that elbows were considered sexual was generated thousands of years ago... no reason to try to understand it, it's just what the bible says...
+filthysock I see. So what about the ankles?
+karmakameleon113 All the rules they abide by are from biblical texts, it doesn't necessarily need to make sense, but for them there is a sense of spiritual dignity in following those rules. They are proud people.
+karmakameleon113 Some sects within the Hassidic group do consider the ankles as a must to be covered as they can cause sin. Some sects though do not adhere to those restrictions. All sects follow their own Rabbi's guidelines on what should be covered.
This is very cool. I've never looked at the Jewish community as being repressive to women. They're a seemingly nice, down to earth community. They always smile and speak to me. But what I'd really want to know is how to make those wigs. As a hairstylist I know just how serious Jewish women are about their hair so I know those wigs are crafted to perfection. Yep.
Hasidim*. The majority of Jewish women do not do that.
Then maybe you should see Unorthodox on Netflix..
@@suzanahas4740 I saw that documentary, it was really good, and eye opening. I think it's very sad that some women are expected to marry, and have children as soon as they reach adulthood. Not everyone just naturally wants to be a wife, and a mother. I honestly think I'd rather be a nun in a convent that get married, and have kids, not that I necessarily want to be a nun, because what I really enjoy is to be a solitary person.
Suzana Has unorthodox does not represent the majority in the chassidic community.
They’re an unfortunate minority and is heartbreaking.
That is really cool! They clearly are trendy women with cool wigs, more interesting clothing, etc!
Loving this series too! Can't wait for more
boy! how come it took me 3 years to see this awesome doc'!
I would wear everything in their collection! love it!
wow i loved this, very interesting!! good work refinery29!
I love this so much. It’s something I never even thought of
I recently started following mimi and mushky on Instagram. Then I open RUclips and this video is on my recommend list! I started watching and then I realized I know these girls!!
Love the beautiful, modest women & clothing in the video! ❤
Love this peek into religious women's fashion, really informative. I knew about Chasidic designers but it's interesting to see it in action
I Love it. ❤️❤️ They explained it perfectly
I see this as a bridge from Orthodox Jews and NYC... Modesty can be very fashionable... And these girls are amazing... They need to be noticed... I think it can help people see it as NON oppressive.
yay! so happy to see this, and to see Ibtihaj Muhammad's cameo!
I think their clothing is so Kool!!! 💗💗💗
In Paris I saw a clearly Muslem woman, She was wearing modest clothes, but it included a bright yellow head scarf and a matching yellow garment around her waist that looked kind of like a short corset. It was hot.
And those wigs are so much prettier than my actual hair
This is my favorite youtube show! I just discovered it today! Keep it up! ❤️
These series are perfection!
I'd love to see more videos on this channel, I absolutely love it!
THANK YOU THANK YOU
I AM A VERY MODEST WOMEN, HAVE BEEN ALL MY LIFE.
I DONT LIKE PRINTS I LOVE SOLID COLORS
I ACTUALLY DRESS LIKE A NUN, I'VE BEEN ASK SEVERAL TIMES IF ONE , MY RESPOSND IS ALWAYS, NO
I JUST DRESS VERY MODES.
MY MOTHER ALWAYS SAID TO OUR BODY IS OUR TEMPLE !!
SO THANK YOU
THANK YOU
MAKING THIS SYMPLE ,EASY
CLEAN CLOTHES
THANK YOU
I believe that you can be fashionable and or sexy without showing any skin its how you carry yourself
The woman who is a Hasidic Jew must above all else NOT be sexy.
Mind blown I never even realized that Mary Kate and Ashley are Hasidic Jew and other modestly dressed religions or preferences fashion icons ... even looking at their website for the row all outfits are covered up and they even have people in hajibs ...that’s so cool...it’s smart as well to cater to everyone
Such a great and well made series! Really cool! Love x
This is really cool! Thanks Refinery29
this is so heart warming! power to these women