Disgraced “Drag Race” Star Sherry Pie’s Exclusive Sit-Down on “Tamron Hall”- Part 3
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
- Drag performer Joey Gugliemelli who goes by the stage name Sherry Pie joins Tamron Hall for an exclusive interview a year after being publicly disqualified from Season 12 of “RuPaul's Drag Race.” Join the conversation and let's talk about it...
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This would have been interesting if she would have let him even answer the questions...
True, she's a good interviewer and I know wants to be tough but even he didnt get lots of his answers cuz she was a bit much. Still good.
... and we still don’t really know the “why.”
@@DadComp-ov4ik I think it's on of those "hurt people hurt people" moments. They didn't feel that delving into their art (drag) was enough and so took it out on others to feel control and better with ones self. But as they say themselves, they don't know the why either yet.
But to respect w. bpd trying to figure themself out and understand the reason behind their actions, that i can do. However as Tamron says, Joey needs to take responsibilty for their actions and own psyhology. They have contacted the victims. Good (i think(it was a little vague)). Now they need to better themseles before getting into the community again.
(Sorry i reflected on my own thought on the issue during it lol)
Why those people were filming themselves naked in first place?
He knows why he did it.. He was with that trickery bullcrap... He got caught and wants sympathy....
Actually if you do some research we kind of do. BPD is a chemical imbalance which can make people do really scary things. I had a friend who used to have persistent thoughts telling him to kill his boyfriend. He ended up threatening him with a knife. So Joey has this personality disorder, then his dad abandons him as a child. Then his mum tells him over and over how horrible dad was. Then his stepdad treats him badly. He grows up powerless against being made to suffer by men. So it makes sense that as an adult, the one thing he craves the most is to take that power back.
These are the kind of stories behind almost all abuse. Rarely are people abusive out of thin air. It doesn't excuse it, but if you don't acknowledge the backstory, it just means more people don't seek help/ understand their impulses so more abuse happens.
@@nerdguru86 They all have their brain's and they should use it. If they had little dignity they wouldn't sent themselves being naked to someone. Damn, that's creepy.
Tamron keeps taking over his answers. I'm not quite sure what he said.
Her bullshit detector was fully tuned in
They do that to get straight to the point because its live and they have a time limit. Usually predators will just start talking for longer than they need to and change the conversation. He could've gave long answers and ending it with I'm sorry. In interviews the interviewer has to keep control of the conversation
I just started watching Tamron today and i actually really like her O.O
Opposite for me. Can’t with her 🤢
@@montagne5825 Maybe i need to watch more of her to fully form an opinion. Can I ask why you dont like her?
I bet most of the views are people who came at Tamron for even having him on. Why you watched it? Cause you wanted this too. You WANTED to see what sherry had to say.
I hope Joey can find peace one day and actively makes and effort to help the community as a way to give back for what he did. Maybe one day we can move past all this.
True, we always wanna focus on the bad, he hurt lots of people and isnt hiding, hope one day he will say more and apologize only to those he hurt. Just sucks cuz I started to watch Drag Race and heard how far she made it and then to hear this it's like "bro, you coulda had the best fun job/life but wtf?"
the only peace he needs is one in a jail cell or endless community service with no recognition for his efforts
All I could think of is on finding nemo when the shark said
I NEVAAA KNEW MY FATHHAAAA
HE NEVER EVEN KNEW HIS FATHA
🤣🤣🤣
This was the lols I didn't know I needed whilst watching this interview.
Am I the only one who didn't learn anything new with this interview?? Extremely unnecessary
Choices
yes you are, I learned a lot. Not everyone is a drag race super fan that knows everything about this story.
BPD is a chemical imbalance which can make people do really scary things. I had a friend who used to have persistent thoughts telling him to kill his boyfriend. He ended up threatening him with a knife. On top of that, BPD makes you feel things much more deeply, and you often have a relentless feeling that people are going to leave you. So Joey has this personality disorder, then his dad abandons him as a child. Then his mum tells him over and over how horrible dad was. Then his stepdad treats him badly. He grows up powerless against being made to suffer by men. So it makes sense that as an adult, a lot of his thoughts revolve around wanting to take that power back.
These are the kind of stories behind almost all abuse. Rarely are people abusive out of thin air. It doesn't excuse it, but if you don't acknowledge the backstory, it just means more people don't seek help/ understand their impulses so more abuse happens.
Make up is a hell of a thing
OK!!!
Girl!! 😂😂😂😂
This interview went in circles. Little substance sadly to shed light into this dilemma
I really would love to be understanding and forgiving, but his wordsss truly gave no clarity and admission to his fault. “I don’t wanna blame in on the mental health”, then to flat out saying that the videos weren’t for sexual pleasure (?), it was due to his “fear of losing someone” (?), that he “was surrounded by women” (?) and “didn’t have a good relationship with his biological and stepdad” (?).
The entire interview had zero substance. I don’t know man, I’m gay, and I really do not want straight people to watch this and keep concluding that all gay men have daddy issues - because we don’t!
I’d rather he just own up to the fact that he is a perv, and he made perverse decision(s) out of desperation and he is seeking for therapy and forgiveness.
As a mental health worker, in my experience I've seen that many people with BPD will have elaborate lies with their friends that are nonsensical, irrational or stemming from a need to feel "loved" or "wanted". I do think a factor of his catfishing was to have sexual control over "unattainable" men in his life who had no sexual interest in him, I agree with you on that, but I wouldn't say the cause is just "perversion", it's a shattered self image with a poor childhood foundation, that coupled with BPD manifested itself in him making these horrible self-protecting (once again irrational) decisions with no consideration for what this was doing to the people in his life.
Perversion is not the reason. He said the reason. It out him in control. It's like calling a rapist a pervert. It's a control issue. Maybe because he doesn't have control of himself, but he created control over these individuals.
It's a chemical imbalance. ...did you watch the same interview I did? Because I understood it.
Ok i hate when i seeban interview where the hhost speaks all the time, constantly speaks over the guest and dont let gim to explain.... His done terrible things but if you interviews him (and you are gonna take profit of it) at least let him express himself...
What are you talking about she didn’t over talk him SMH 🤯
Also this was live- you have to keep a time limit on each question asked to get everything covered.
I am pissed that even after he was kicked off the show and went back home, he immediately re-engaged in this behavior and victimized NEW TARGETS. SP does NOT care about the damage she caused. She only cares about damage control to her own career.
Uhhh wrong order of events sweetie. S12 was filmed first without the producers knowing abt the catfishing, and after the filming wrapped sherry, who prior to going into the show was already catfishing, went home and continued her abusive actions. Then the show aired then victims came forward so whilst the show was filming she was kicked off
@@toukisacecard6532 so agressive and condescending and for what? Like they're not wrong in the order of events? SP did get eliminated and then went home and continued victimizing men.
@@rebeccawood9297 Drag Race is usually filmed in the month of August, so they filmed the show except for the reunion episode and the finale, which are filmed after the show airs. They all go home, SP continues to do the catfishing, and fast forward to February of the next year, the show premieres. As the show premieres, the allegations came up, snd VH1 released the statement about SP being disqualified from the competition, and would not be in the reunion or finale. At the time of filming, the producers didn’t know about the catfishing. But SP wasn’t eliminated. She was supposed to be in the Top 4 contenders for the crown, and got disqualified after the show aired, after she had gone back home from filming and continued catfishing.
Ok 1:33 got me heated. Look at his body language and how he shakes his head no! His mind is still justifying his actions and he's just playing the sorry card to not get hit worse!
The question "is it a multiple personal disorder? " revealed Tamrons ignorance of the matter. No. Those are called DID now and are dissociative disorders. It was obvious to me that he was referring to the category of personality disorders which includes narcissism, psychopathy, avoidant disorders (mine!) and of course borderline, an extremely common disorder, a complex form of ptsd which is caused by trauma. Aka nothing to do with DID at all. We the neurodiverse + mentally ill community are TIRED of having to explain basic concepts to people who should know better. Your ignorance creates stigma. Borderline is a very common disorder and people shouldn't have to ask what it is. Millions of people have it and it takes 2 seconds to Google it. Do better.
I 100% agree, she starts by saying that she's been a reporter for this long and at first I was wondering if she was asking rhetorically so the common viewer could tie it to something they have heard of in movies, but no, she prepped this entire interview but didn't bother to read up on the personality disorder that he had already shared publicly that he suffers from. Bringing up the incorrect name for DID discredited her and her jumping in with "and we weren't going to allow you to do that either" (blaming behaviour on mental illness). Fact is, that without BPD he wouldn't have done these things, that doesn't mean it's an excuse, but an explanation of how and why (which people find impossible to comprehend, they automatically are like "IT DOESN'T ABSOLVE YOU!" and label an explanation as an excuse). BPD can have you acting desperately and by any means necessary, so it's very telling as to how the whole situation came about. Not an excuse, but telling.
There is strong evidence that BPD is genetic. Saying BPD is caused by trauma is basically a fad belief with no concrete proof (having an abusive parent can essentially never prove you got your problems from environmental stressors since they may have mostly been genetics). There are tons of people with severe personality disorders who had comfortable childhoods and you can't explain their adult behavior by pointing to their childhood. It's a very wrongheaded argument which historically people have also used to argue that gay people and autistic people are products of bad parenting. You say "do better" but you should start with yourself. There is no clear difference between C-PTSD and BPD criteria other than one is more of an excuse than the other. A lot of the work people need to do is taking responsibility for their behavior - case in point.
Now, I’m not defending Sherry because what she did was absolutely hideous not just to the victims but to our community as well. As for Tamron, she is a HORRIBLE interviewer. She repeated that “this is an interview”, no shit. Every question she asked him, she cut him off during his answer. We’re his answers bad, yeah but maybe he was trying to piece his thoughts together. That would’ve showed a more genuine side as opposed to sounding rehearsed. This was 3 parts for no reason at all. 🙄
Leave him alone. It’s over.
He’s not well, that’s a common thing in the gay community. Everyone needs to move on.
Sherry pies career is over. No need to be hateful.
"He’s not well, that’s a common thing in the gay community"
Can you elaborate on this?
Truth! He's human and everyone makes mistakes. Let him do his thing and treat him as any human. Don't let him be on Drag Race again is a fair punishment.
@@trixer4586 I can give you slight thing on what they was saying. If you been in gay community awhile or just gay in general. You go through stuff unfair or wrong to people which done nothing wrong. Just one of those things people see us as.
This person must been through some of that stuff and we all have had fair share of some sort of thing like that in some way.
@@632Red Oh yeah, I understand what you mean
ruclips.net/video/Ox5VBRmTuAo/видео.html
So sad. Thank you, Tamron and co. for conducting this interview and shedding some light onto this horrible situation!
This interview felt more like it was for her credibility than it was To actually interview. She interrupted his answers every time with her interpretation of what it was. She was more interested in trying to show her intolerance
He looks like someone who would do something like that, hope he learned his lesson. Cuz his career is over
Something just doesn’t sit right in my spirit about this. The assaults emerged when he was announced to be on the show. Why didn’t the victims demand justice before hand?
ruclips.net/video/WefZgjzeuv4/видео.html this video does a good job detailing what happened and how the victims came to the realization it was sherry.
He should be penally charged, it's crazyyyy that the authorities are not involved in this case
Because they did what they did voluntarily as grown men. He was wrong for coercing & lying to them but he NEVER SEXUALLY ASSAULTED anybody. How is a grown man going to send a video of himself masturbating to someone as a disguise of getting an acting role. It’s absolutely absurd. Some of these “victims” need to take responsibility for their actions as well. They were not children. This was not done in person with any danger to their life. They are all grown men. And yes grown men can be raped or sexually assaulted but that’s not what happened here. No one was touched or in any danger. No one put a gun to anyone’s head. Come on!
@@Forever20young I see what you're saying, but think the fault lies mostly with Sherry. We just live in an age where we believe victims 100% and really shame predators because of past actions about sexual assault.
@@jeppeaksrensen8316 Why would they filming themselves naked for a role? That's just wrong.
I wish the best for Sherry Pie and that one day we can all move past this.
Ok stop removing my comment !!! If you clearly think it’s ok to move past what happened you clearly don’t have an education
@@darraghdavis779 And apparently neither do you. How you gonna want someone cancelled but refuse to move past this?? How you gonna say not to give this person a platform but refuse to move past this?? How you gonna not move past this but you weren’t even a victim. The pot calling the kettle black
Thanks for hosting this interview!
This is just a bad interview. I know that she is a “interviewer” but she just kinda barked questions in a condescending way. It could’ve been better is all I’m saying.
Why is she being so snippy?
what he did is not good, however it is sad that he can't throw some of the actions on his borderline personality disorder which is very complex and very painful. deceit is a way to escape a painful existence, and he was and continues be a person living with immense pain. also it feels like tamaron needed to clean up her image due to the backlash of brining him on and really nailed him to a cross. again what he did is not good, but a person with a head and heart knows why.
What was the damn dire NEED to have this person be interviewed?? So she can tell us she's been in therapy? The victims even asked producers NOT to air this. Yet here we are. How disrespectful to THEM. Sure, interview this person, NOW WAS NOT THE TIME.
TAMRON HALL, SASHAY AWAY......BYE GURL
This WOULD NEVER happen if the queen was Black, someone like Sherry gets way less hate then brita and I dont get the lgbt community for being so racist
It wasn’t even an interview. Just Tamron raising her voice at Joey. Nothing learnt.
she interviews people who do bad things. thats it
No answers at all, he was just bragging about how well he has managed the issues.
He said that he doesn't blame it on "mental health issues" yet from what I have heard he has! I don't think he realises how much he hurt so many people, I haven't seen or heard him even say sorry yet....
This is part 3 of the interview he said sorry in the first part
I don't know what you can blame it on other than pure evil. I have no idea what he could do or say to make anything right. Honestly, I have no interest following this person or ever seeing him perform again. I had no idea he did this to his friends, its just another layer that makes this more gross. Other than impersonating an agent of a large media company, i'm not sure how the law will punish him.
she keeps interrupting....
I can understand why she felt she had to keep up some catfishing façade because she didn't want to lose the friends she was catfishing, BUT why is it a catfishing scenario where they are given false hope for an acting career? This feels more like it feeling exciting to fuck with people than a person having a low self-esteem and faking some appearance. I mean either way stop with the first person queen, if you knew it was wrong don't keep escalating and bringing more people in. I'm sure if you weren't on drag race you would still be doing this to ppl to this day.
yea he did some crazy stuff to guys but gezzzzzz she was a lil too aggressive with that interview i dont know how to feel about that im sure he regreats what he did but dam sus you anit even let him speak you cut him off alot...and it came off as a lil rude
There's not enough backstory. What exactly did he do? How did he get busted? Why did these "victims" submit to his scam?
I haVE BPD. And it really makes it hard for people to ;like u for a long time...long term friendships are rare for me and a lot of others with BPD...But I wouldnt do what he did! but i kinda understand what BPD is so.....i kinda feel sorry for him...like i said ...it wasnt kids,,,
This was not a good interview. He was about to give his first real deep revelation and she cut him off ! Talked over the top of him and blabbed on repeating a point she had already made, I was like damn! He was about to get real you amateur!
Two mins of her blabbing after cutting him off then she threw back to him and he was opening and shutting his mouth like a fish. How did this woman get her own show? Waste of time interviewing him when he said almost zero and she just used the time to beat her own drum. Bpd awareness not even featured? Mental illness is no excuse? So many missed opportunities. Perhaps tamrom you should be a rapper if your own voice is your favourite sound
god of course he brought up bpd. I have bpd. that does not mean that cuz i’m afraid of someone leaving i’m gonna catfish them
ahhh every 23yo are interview experts now :>)
bpd is a disassociateive disorder as well,part of this disorder is that you can seperate yourself from certain situations im not in any way condoning Joey's behavior but i do understand the illness it can be treated with meds& therapy
The victims should have been on the show doing an interview. I hope the victims get justice.
Sherry is the public figure, not the victims. They would never interview the victims because no one knows who they are. no one would watch
NO REMORSE SHOWN
He apologised continuously throughout the whole interview
I think it's important to remember that people show emotions differently: happiness, sadness, anger and even remorse. No one knows what Joey is feeling and if he is remorseful. I hope he is. More than him apologizing, I'd like to see his actions show he is remorseful.
Mental health is SUCH a cop-out
This girl is a BOSS!
Sherry pie for allstars! Get that Rudemption!
Forgiveness still exists!
Not sure that this interview was necessary? Also concerns about the interviewer's professionalism. She didn't really let him answer the questions properly and he just seems lost in his answers.
Tamron can be quite judgmental and slightly rude. Not the best interview....
We know tamron had an specific time to make the interview but it felt rushed.
*Tamron,you are also cancelled,girl!*
Do you huff paint? Finish a sentence already!
What do you want from Sherry Pie?
An interview and perspective only from one voice. No respect to the victims. Shame on the producers for being so blind sighted on how this has a negative effect on so many people effected.
Sherry is only victim here and she would win Season 12!
ew
@@zuzasiwek6595 ew to you
How is he the only victim? He sexually coerced men and made them think that they were getting a role and their dreams of acting/performing were coming true. People will do things that seem strange and uncomfortable for a chance that it’s legit and that their dreams will come true. To find out it’s your friend sexually exploiting you for their own pleasures is devastating and disgusting. Sherry is no victim to anyone
@@drakeried Would you send video of yourself being naked to someone for a job? No, you wouldn't if you have a little dignity for yourself. Nobody would do it if they aren't a creep. They were all grown people and they have brain's, damn.
@@jovancroatia9650 Just say you don't understand mental and emotional manipulation and leave.
sherry basically won the season. she’s very talented.
Okay not true but okay
@@waitdontdoit8014 Actually true but okay lmao
@@JSG-gk2oz ur mad jaidah won I wonder why
@@waitdontdoit8014 Did I say that?? I don’t think I did lmao I wonder why you made such assumption
@@JSG-gk2oz i think he would have won as well he won more then challenges then jaidah also his runway looks where better.....but im happy jaidah won but if he never got kicked offf he would have won!
Though I love your show Tamron, I have to say this that it would have been nice if you gave him some grace and could have perhaps give him some slack as in forgiveness and talking about forgiveness . He could have ghosted the world when accused like many who get cancelled but he chose to come on your platform . Sure many would say that since he was famous and got outed that’s why he is now sorry and it could be right but u really made him feel worst about himself almost suggesting that his mistakes were unforgivable or he committed a reprehensible acts . I’m not aware of the allegations and their extent but u could have gave him some empathy but u were very crass . Allah / God gives and forgives and man gets and forgets . When u and I ask Allah / God for forgiveness all day every day for ourself why can’t we offer that to our fellow human beings . Think about that ‘
She did this with numerous people.. did you catch that.. she didn’t do this alone … more catfishers are involved her friends helped her . The fack
as a drag queen with borderline personality disorder myself, catfishing people is NOT part of BPD at all, let alone playing a different person. This is going to be yet another shot to the BPD community that makes us look awful.
Agreed. Also how cringe when she asked "is it a multiple personality disorder". She obviously doesn't know it's a whole category of conditions 🙄
Y'all are crazy anyway. What's another drop of crazy in an ocean of crazy.