And they have beaten Australia and NZ by RECORD scores. The highest scores they have ever taken at home. Their attack is bloody good and I am relishing the game against Ireland. I for one am loving the Argies being so strong as they are my second favourite team after the Boks.
“Argentina aren’t quite as good”. Really? They have beaten the All Blacks and South Africa this year so don’t underestimate them, it does depend on which Argentina turn up on the night but they can be very good when they turn up with the right attitude
Not sure why people are bringing up Crowley. He's been very good for Ireland for the most part since replacing Sexton. Frawley had an absolute shocker when he came on. POC doesn't seem to come under any scrutiny. Irelands line out has been faulty for a long time now, all under his watch. Ultimately, Ireland don't have the strength in depth they think they have, which is why Healy, Henderson, POM etc are still needed for match day squads Ireland will be under serious pressure to get a win this weekend and the Pumas will be licking their lips.
@dazza4345 yes there was Ireland didn't look like threatening the all blacks till we got carded there's was so much difference between the two Ireland made 1 line break nz made 11
Rob Kearney. ‘NZ never respected us’. Now he says ‘you have to have a little - I don’t know if it’s fear or respect’. Clearly doesn’t respect Argentina. I hope Argentina make him respect them
POC needs to get a grip. Stats can read Irl win 90% of lineout. In the WC against SA and NZ and now against NZ the 10% lineouts lost were in key positions at key times and had a huge influence on confidence and momentum. Scrums also the same. All flash and no basics is not good enough.
Look at how 1 match loss freaks Ireland out so much. Justifiable as there is so little development of younger players being developed. Ireland not developing their depth at the Test level is not a good idea.
@clibo1 I disagree it's abs fans and safa fans saying ireland are in crisis not the other way round. I guess we really scarred the allblacks that they need to try and turn a minor friendly loss into a crisis . Sad
Imma say a bad day at the office. The reactions have been pretty much a joke from many sides. Thats what happens when you have a target on your back at number 1. I think this was an important, healthy loss, that finally, at long last has raised the question about new players. This was coming a long time. Theres still 3 tests to go and plenty of new guns to pick from the provinces if needed. We actually do have depth, its just not used. Find the opportunity in loss, its an important part of growth.
I think Ireland intended to replicate their physicality they displayed in the 2nd game against the boks in Durban; indicative of all the one-off carriers crashing against a brickwall of All Black defenders. Also think they underestimated New Zealand's physicality and came horribly unstuck. Ireland just repeated this strategy throughout the game and forgot about what brought them success in many recent previous encounters against the All Blacks. Silly and unintelligent rugby; lack of leadership was their undoing.
Ireland became one dimensional easy to read; how long does it take to read out the back door plays that all northern teams implement? Southern boys has way more talent and athleticism; that's why all northern teams go to old graves to digg up bones of DNA for SH players and coaches. You always hear from northern teams; his Ireland; Wales ; England and Scottish qualified. Grow your own damn talent. Ireland best players over the weekend were all kiwis and a wallaby. Scotland full of saffas even Wales has a couple of kiwis now.
They beat South Africa in South Africa, something New Zealand failed to do in both tests. They were playing a team that had two games in the previous two weeks while they hadn't played in 4 months. New Zealand went in with massive advantage. There's no decline, it's typical rustiness. Both New Zealand and South Africa lost to 7th ranked Argentina just 2 months ago by comparison despite Argentina having no warmup games advantage
People say that after every world cup. The players coming through are only getting better. There are always going to be ups and downs, but have been on a gradual upward trajectory since the millennium
After Covid lockdown, AB’s have not been performing as they should. But they are rebuilding slowly. Ireland’s rise has been an outlier just like England when they won the World Cup.
Obviously Ireland's performance had nothing to do with the All Blacks pressure aye? Ireland just starting to learn what the AB's and Boks have known for many many YEARS - it's harder to stay at the top for long periods than it is to actually get there!!! And write Argentina off at your own peril. If they turn up they have a good chance of beating Ireland!!!
If Ireland are to move fwd they need a new progressive coach who wiil take stock of where they have come and move fwd with new blood new ideas and new approach, its a natural cycle of things. players need new voices. This current team have been there made #1 now on the slide. They never fulfilled their dream winning a W.cup buit their best hope was last year and fell short, these boys will not get any better their value now is passing on what they have learned. Farrel was always a caretaker coach after Joe Smit, like Hansen was in ABs camp to Graham Henry. New coach differrent philosophy hard decisions, same vision. Good luck Ireland.
The majority of the team are still just in their 20s so I disagree they won't get better. I think everyone's had an adverse reaction to one defeat for a team that was no. 1 ten minutes ago.
YOU CAN ONLY PLAY AS WELL AS THE OTHER TEAM ALLOWS YOU KEARNEY .STOP MAKING EXCUSE AFTER EXCUSE AND TALK REAL RUGBY CLOWN,THIS IS NOT A COMPLETE OUTLIER WHATSOEVER YOU MUGS WILL SINK LOWER 3-2 LAST 5 GAMES
It seems like New Zealand is Ireland's boogie team. They seem to choke psychologically every time they face them. Lesson is stick to your basics, get those things right first. Line-out, scrum, handling, possession and territory. Defense was good, no 9 was great, no 10 had few touches not good enough.
They lost because New Zealand had the massive advantage of going into it, not only after having just played 2 months ago in the Rugby Championship, but also playing 2 games in thr previous two weeks. Ireland have only played 2 games since March and the last time they played was 4 months ago. That's why all teams should be starting the Autumn series on the same weekend so there's a more level playing field. Ireland not playing on the previous weekend that New Zealand played England gave them a massive advantage over Ireland as that English game massively improved the cohesion in the All Blacks game where they went from conceding the most penalties of any game in the season in the English game to having the lowest penalty count of their season against Ireland. New Zealand only managed one try against Ireland and all of their other points were as a result of Ireland's handling errors.
England hasn't played any games as well but they did well against NZ ,Irish and their excuses 🥱 NZ were better than Ireland in their own backyard , maybe next time lad
Ireland nearly lost a series in s.a and ireland just finished the 6 nations but s.a had no game time. Nz beat england with no game time 😂😂 not looking good for Ireland 🤣
The majority of the Irish team play together for Leinster and nobody was pointing this out when they travelled to SA who had not played together that year to date.
@@JamDav1982its such a pity we're not olaying Ireland this year....such a pity. They beat the Boks just about who also had no cohesion really because of not playing before the Irish came here. You were beaten by the better team. I said it before the game .....ABs for the win because the Irish thought it was going to be a walk over. Southern Hemisphere power all the way!!
Argentina is a good team
Ireland are learning what its like to STAY at number one.
number 3 now and sinking like the Titanic
Really shows how great the ABs were during their 2009 - 2019 reign.
@@jonathonmerson93 wait until the Argentinians put a record score on them this Saturday...
@@jonathonmerson93after 1 game?
Do not underestimate Argentina. They have beaten SA and NZ this year.
agree Arg are probably better than NZ and level is at no 2 in world rankings.
And they have beaten Australia and NZ by RECORD scores. The highest scores they have ever taken at home. Their attack is bloody good and I am relishing the game against Ireland. I for one am loving the Argies being so strong as they are my second favourite team after the Boks.
“Argentina aren’t quite as good”. Really? They have beaten the All Blacks and South Africa this year so don’t underestimate them, it does depend on which Argentina turn up on the night but they can be very good when they turn up with the right attitude
Agree. That's exactly the Northern hemispheres problem. They always win the game before even playing the game.
The Irish people respect 🙏 Argentina and NZ .All sides.I apologise for our awful media. 🇮🇪
@waynerockman1242 not the team or fans .Just the Irish media.Big difference.Nothing to do with the Irish team.
@@dazza4345 when last have you read social media. Wish you could read some of the stuff the Irish fans said.
@@waynerockman1242ah yes, the ol’ “judge a country’s supporters by the RUclips comments” idea. Because every country comes away from that well.
Not sure why people are bringing up Crowley. He's been very good for Ireland for the most part since replacing Sexton. Frawley had an absolute shocker when he came on.
POC doesn't seem to come under any scrutiny. Irelands line out has been faulty for a long time now, all under his watch.
Ultimately, Ireland don't have the strength in depth they think they have, which is why Healy, Henderson, POM etc are still needed for match day squads
Ireland will be under serious pressure to get a win this weekend and the Pumas will be licking their lips.
"they're scared of Ireland now" -Rob Kearney
🤣🤣 Was a glorious win at Aviva stadium lol
A win congrats to Nz.But penalty count beat Ireland on the night through bad handling.There wasnt anything between the sides really.
@@dazza4345👀....😂😂😂😂
@dazza4345 yes there was Ireland didn't look like threatening the all blacks till we got carded there's was so much difference between the two Ireland made 1 line break nz made 11
Rob Kearney. ‘NZ never respected us’. Now he says ‘you have to have a little - I don’t know if it’s fear or respect’. Clearly doesn’t respect Argentina. I hope Argentina make him respect them
I'm so happy you decided to exclude that Matt Williams guys. Thanks God. Your Pod is decent now with great rugby mind in Rob
Ireland reverted to the style they played 20 years ago. Competent, uninspiring, forever also rans.
Quite fitting im taking a massive dump while watching this
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Gross but funny. 😅
I’m actually taking a massive dump reading your post funnily enough!
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POC needs to get a grip. Stats can read Irl win 90% of lineout. In the WC against SA and NZ and now against NZ the 10% lineouts lost were in key positions at key times and had a huge influence on confidence and momentum. Scrums also the same. All flash and no basics is not good enough.
Look at how 1 match loss freaks Ireland out so much. Justifiable as there is so little development of younger players being developed. Ireland not developing their depth at the Test level is not a good idea.
@clibo1 I disagree it's abs fans and safa fans saying ireland are in crisis not the other way round. I guess we really scarred the allblacks that they need to try and turn a minor friendly loss into a crisis . Sad
Imma say a bad day at the office. The reactions have been pretty much a joke from many sides. Thats what happens when you have a target on your back at number 1.
I think this was an important, healthy loss, that finally, at long last has raised the question about new players. This was coming a long time.
Theres still 3 tests to go and plenty of new guns to pick from the provinces if needed. We actually do have depth, its just not used. Find the opportunity in loss, its an important part of growth.
Number 3*
Who was saying Ireland don’t make handling errors 😂😂😂
I think Ireland intended to replicate their physicality they displayed in the 2nd game against the boks in Durban; indicative of all the one-off carriers crashing against a brickwall of All Black defenders. Also think they underestimated New Zealand's physicality and came horribly unstuck. Ireland just repeated this strategy throughout the game and forgot about what brought them success in many recent previous encounters against the All Blacks. Silly and unintelligent rugby; lack of leadership was their undoing.
Ireland became one dimensional easy to read; how long does it take to read out the back door plays that all northern teams implement? Southern boys has way more talent and athleticism; that's why all northern teams go to old graves to digg up bones of DNA for SH players and coaches. You always hear from northern teams; his Ireland; Wales ; England and Scottish qualified. Grow your own damn talent. Ireland best players over the weekend were all kiwis and a wallaby. Scotland full of saffas even Wales has a couple of kiwis now.
It is always harder to learn from wins than loses. So this lose may be exactly what they need to rejuvenate the team.
the reaction to the defeat has been escalated as was the hype by Ireland leading up to the game. That reputation as chokers has come back.
The best NR.3 podcasters on planet earth 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Kearney makes sexton look like a good lad.
What time is in South Africa? Incoming salty Saffa comments.
Jeez dude .. pathetic comment . No wonder we love to see Ireland lose .
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@@stephenbeesley2645 😃As a Saffa I can appreciate the humour...
If Argentina come out firing from the start for the first 20 min and Ireland cannot contain them will lose.
As I’ve been saying, Ireland peaked in NZ in 2022 and are now in a long term decline back to mediocrity
They beat South Africa in South Africa, something New Zealand failed to do in both tests. They were playing a team that had two games in the previous two weeks while they hadn't played in 4 months. New Zealand went in with massive advantage. There's no decline, it's typical rustiness. Both New Zealand and South Africa lost to 7th ranked Argentina just 2 months ago by comparison despite Argentina having no warmup games advantage
People say that after every world cup. The players coming through are only getting better. There are always going to be ups and downs, but have been on a gradual upward trajectory since the millennium
It wasn't 60 _ 0 😂 Irish team should all listen to the things said on this breakdown. Boring as an Irish fan at the weekend . Wd NZ
@@loughrey101 won with a hail Mary drop goal
Literally number 1 ten minutes ago lol
After Covid lockdown, AB’s have not been performing as they should. But they are rebuilding slowly. Ireland’s rise has been an outlier just like England when they won the World Cup.
Most importantly ABs beat Ireland without two good players of the team 😅
Weather conditions on a late game in November in Dublin are not compatible with possession rugby that Ireland play.
Excuses lol 19 straight wins at Aviva would say other wise lol
one thing i noticed being astute All Blacks supporter is at least Kearney talks about the game reasonably well.
All Blacks made Ireland look ordinary . Argentina winning will prove it .
Have Ireland peaked? Faz off to the Lions soon, no Sexton, it's hard being number 1.
We shut Bundee down. Henshaw needs to start, he is quality.
Simon Easterby is a very good man to hold the reins.
Frawley is not good enough-give Crowley some space as well as all of them and new players to come, e.g. Sam Prendergast as replacement.
The man they let go , Carbery ...a bit of a loss now ?
Obviously Ireland's performance had nothing to do with the All Blacks pressure aye? Ireland just starting to learn what the AB's and Boks have known for many many YEARS - it's harder to stay at the top for long periods than it is to actually get there!!! And write Argentina off at your own peril. If they turn up they have a good chance of beating Ireland!!!
that Argie attack is pretty potent.
Ireland had one good international season and the fans went nuts. Here is your reality.
Have some respect for how good we’ve been. Really horrible posts from NZ with no respect.
@@deirdreryan5674 You've been good when you when a world cup. Four. more. years.
You never just lost to the all blacks this year .. you lost one game to South Africa as well .. remember it was 1/1
Imagine how good all blacks would be if we allowed players offshore to play....so many top players aren't allowed to play for the all blacks...
It was a stink game. New Zealand was stink, and Ireland was stinkier.
The game was wet weather rugby, and the allblacks played to the conditions. Irland did not
ABs not playing anywhere near their potential but still winning.
Too right!
It's stink when you lose,the ABs shut them up,yaÿyyyy
Wow, so many handicaps in the comment section here
Ireland will bounce back like a watermelon.
It was a terrible game from both sides, not good enough from 2 brilliant rugby teams.
Irish media are awful and arrogant but tbh SA and Nz media are even worse😂
Maybe .. but at least they have a few world cups behind them to back up the arrogance.
You've gotta be ozzie mate!
Ah...robbed of some kearneys
If Ireland are to move fwd they need a new progressive coach who wiil take stock of where they have come and move fwd with new blood new ideas and new approach, its a natural cycle of things. players need new voices. This current team have been there made #1 now on the slide. They never fulfilled their dream winning a W.cup buit their best hope was last year and fell short, these boys will not get any better their value now is passing on what they have learned.
Farrel was always a caretaker coach after Joe Smit, like Hansen was in ABs camp to Graham Henry. New coach differrent philosophy hard decisions, same vision. Good luck Ireland.
The majority of the team are still just in their 20s so I disagree they won't get better. I think everyone's had an adverse reaction to one defeat for a team that was no. 1 ten minutes ago.
YOU CAN ONLY PLAY AS WELL AS THE OTHER TEAM ALLOWS YOU KEARNEY .STOP MAKING EXCUSE AFTER EXCUSE AND TALK REAL RUGBY CLOWN,THIS IS NOT A COMPLETE OUTLIER WHATSOEVER YOU MUGS WILL SINK LOWER 3-2 LAST 5 GAMES
It seems like New Zealand is Ireland's boogie team. They seem to choke psychologically every time they face them. Lesson is stick to your basics, get those things right first. Line-out, scrum, handling, possession and territory.
Defense was good, no 9 was great, no 10 had few touches not good enough.
They beat them in a series...
Rob talks some dribble.
Ireland are in decline simple as 🇳🇿
They lost because New Zealand had the massive advantage of going into it, not only after having just played 2 months ago in the Rugby Championship, but also playing 2 games in thr previous two weeks. Ireland have only played 2 games since March and the last time they played was 4 months ago. That's why all teams should be starting the Autumn series on the same weekend so there's a more level playing field. Ireland not playing on the previous weekend that New Zealand played England gave them a massive advantage over Ireland as that English game massively improved the cohesion in the All Blacks game where they went from conceding the most penalties of any game in the season in the English game to having the lowest penalty count of their season against Ireland. New Zealand only managed one try against Ireland and all of their other points were as a result of Ireland's handling errors.
England hasn't played any games as well but they did well against NZ ,Irish and their excuses 🥱 NZ were better than Ireland in their own backyard , maybe next time lad
Ireland nearly lost a series in s.a and ireland just finished the 6 nations but s.a had no game time. Nz beat england with no game time 😂😂 not looking good for Ireland 🤣
The majority of the Irish team play together for Leinster and nobody was pointing this out when they travelled to SA who had not played together that year to date.
@@JamDav1982its such a pity we're not olaying Ireland this year....such a pity. They beat the Boks just about who also had no cohesion really because of not playing before the Irish came here. You were beaten by the better team. I said it before the game .....ABs for the win because the Irish thought it was going to be a walk over. Southern Hemisphere power all the way!!
Awwwww it's ok lol
Four more years, you excuse making prawn.
Irish media caillng the irish leprechauns heavyweights 😂
SH teams are on a roll, Argentina will be licking their lips. final score Argentina 27 - Irland 9.
I reckon high scores from both sides as Argentina defence isn't that good. AR 45-35 IE