I am fascinated by 15th and 16th century Spanish clothing, and especially the shape given by the verdugado/ farthingale. So I agree with the alluring nature of Tudor fashion :) Wonderful work on the bodies, they’re stunning! Edited to add: last year I created two modern garments inspired by mid 16th century Spanish dress. One was a dress that took inspiration from the shape of a doublet made of velveteen, and one took inspiration from the shape of a saya entera worn with a shortened farthingale underneath, made of a silk wool. They are some of my favorite projects that I’ve ever made, and I can’t wait to see where these shapes and your creativity take you!
Thank you! It’s such an interesting era, I’ve heard it described as the most artificial silhouette, and I think it’s just fascinating the way they constructed it.
Why was I today years old when realising Muslin and Calico are the same things 😅😅😅(I’m from a commonwealth country is my excuse)! Also I love the universality of that very accurate form of measurement taking to add to the waist for those bodies lol
I know! When I got my first job at an American brand and they said they were “making a muslin with muslin” I was so lost (my friend from Canada was also super confused, so I think it may be a common wealth thing) And yes, here’s to the 👐 this big form of measurements!
They really do. I’ve often wondered if historical clothing physically pushes posture into place, or if you just feel very upright and proper wearing it.
I find every corset/stays/pairs of bodies you make utterly fascinating. Thank you for sharing your explorations, not least because you help me with mine! Stunning make, well done you. 😁XXX
Thank you for creating and sharing this video. Immensely appreciated as I'm starved for interacting with others that sew clothes. Everyone in this area does quilts and only quilts. I make a quilt every few years to use up my scraps and then donate it to the local domestic violence help center to help someone with having to start all over again. Your stays turned out well and fit you nicely. I never could use plastic boning because it just creates unsightly waves that emphasizes excess abdominal skin. Because of how well it forgot you, I'm envious in that regard. I would have also gone with a denim aswell. Bull denim came to my mind. Glad you were able to use up the glasses be leather that you had to do this project. Currently I ran across McCall NY The Collection patterns. Strange that I don't remember seeing them when they were in the pattern books. I really love older avant-garde clothing. Its still edgey today which is what I am after. Some reworking to remove the blocky shoulders from the 80s and 90s and I will have something really fun to wear. A slight brag... My kids bought me lengths of black in Ponte knit, heavy stretch cotton blend twill, embroidered eyelet fabric, jersey knits and Pins cotton broadcloth. Then they bought me some red/grey/black stripe quilting cotton and red, grey and camel rayon jersey knits. Quite a Mother's Day gift that wasn't expected. After years of telling me that I need to be committed because of my endless sewing with the majority being clothes for them, the concepts of quality garment construction, quality fabric and what would work for certain projects imprinted in their brains as adults. Very nice surprise for me.
Thank you! I was pretty happy with the boning all things considered- I think it helps that the body is completely boned with no gaps. I just looked up the McCall patterns a d they are gorgeous- that particular era of 80s-90s avant garde is timelessly chic (I think so anyway.) That was so thoughtful of your kids! I love when people I don’t think are interested in my sewing pursuits give me something related to it, it makes me realize that even though we all have different interests I’m still appreciated. I hope you make something amazing with all of it and think of them when you wear it!
@@anotherdreamgonewest You're welcome. Will keep completely boned in mind for future projects. Agree that 80-90s avant garde is timelessly chic. My favorite was Issey Miyake and I sewed up tons of things from him while in college in the 80s.
Oh my goodness good job, kids!! That's amazing. They're forcing you to be generous with yourself, I love it! I know what you mean about not having an in person community for fashion and costuming, especially the historical mashed up with modern. Do you have any plans for the fabric, yet?
@@uschilou I wasn't expecting my kids to do anything like this. I plan on some knit dresses, blouses, vests, knickers and jackets. Clothes these that I can just wear for avant garde fun, instead of making everything be able to go from professional to casual.
This recreation really brings armor to my mind. It may not be just this one but seeing it on a person? And suddenly I want a pair with a metallic outer fashion layer. I don't know in words how it brings me there but there I am anyway. Probably something in the rigidity and how it kind of simplifies but exaggerates the desired silhouette
I’m delighted that this video popped up in my feed and have watched several of your videos. New subscriber, and look forward to going along for the ride.
What a beautiful pair of bodies. Have you tried German plastic boning? Much better than zip ties. I am really looking forward to seeing the farthingale and the modern pieces inspired by them.
Thank you! The muslin/toile/calico thing had been confusing me for years. I’ve tried working with muslin and it’s so easily stretched out of shape I was baffled as to why it seemed to be the go to for prototypes!
It really is true that England and America are two countries separated by the same language. I’m going to try to at least be consistent with which term I use! And absolutely- I only ever saw muslin fabric being used in the very early stages of pattern drafting/testing in the actual industry. Otherwise they used a fabric as close as possible to what would ultimately be used 🤷♀️
Currently daydreaming about having the time for my own historical mash up - a pinafore dress crossed with an English farmer’s smock (fuelled by my jealousy of the Austrian dirndl and all beautiful national dress in general 😂)
Elizabethan fashion is really something, isn't it? This particular pair of stays seems extremely long, though. I can see, that it matches well with the portrait, visually, but can you actually sit down in it? Do we know, how tall Queen Elizabeth was?
@r0ute66junkie is right, 5’3”-5’5” is the estimate, which was taller than average for a Tudor woman. There are contemporary accounts where people remark on her height, so it all checks out. Queenspreading may be my new favorite term! Yes, you can sit in these- not as comfortably as other corsets/stays, but it’s possible. I’ve heard a lot of speculation over just how much of what we see in portraits represents normal, everyday wear in this era particularly. It’s entirely possible these types of bodies would have been more for special occasions and something a bit more forgiving would have been worn for everyday dress.
Very interesting! Oof yeah the order of operations can be such a pain! I had similar happen recently, only I had to pull out boning I'd put in too soon lol. The leather going so far was impressive though!
It’s not a surprise that women fainted all the time because of their clothing. Watching you explore fashion leads me to think some things have never really changed. For the most part it just went under the clothes and given names like ‘long line bra, girdles, corsets, spanx, to name a few. At least the waist is not expected to be 13inches…lol. And don’t for get the term, ‘hourglass shape’…36-24-36… It’s going to fascinating to watch your styles take shape.
Thank you- I’ll say this particular pair of bodies was the most constricting I’ve worn, and there isn’t anywhere to hide in the desired silhouette (you can’t really pad it out anywhere to get the proportions right without just making the whole thing tight.) we’ll see how it all turns out!
that shirt goes so perfectly with the bodies! absolutely 10/10 outfit
Thank you! I’m trying to make things that can be paired around with other items I’ve made so this is good to hear!
I am fascinated by 15th and 16th century Spanish clothing, and especially the shape given by the verdugado/ farthingale. So I agree with the alluring nature of Tudor fashion :) Wonderful work on the bodies, they’re stunning!
Edited to add: last year I created two modern garments inspired by mid 16th century Spanish dress. One was a dress that took inspiration from the shape of a doublet made of velveteen, and one took inspiration from the shape of a saya entera worn with a shortened farthingale underneath, made of a silk wool. They are some of my favorite projects that I’ve ever made, and I can’t wait to see where these shapes and your creativity take you!
Thank you! It’s such an interesting era, I’ve heard it described as the most artificial silhouette, and I think it’s just fascinating the way they constructed it.
Why was I today years old when realising Muslin and Calico are the same things 😅😅😅(I’m from a commonwealth country is my excuse)! Also I love the universality of that very accurate form of measurement taking to add to the waist for those bodies lol
I know! When I got my first job at an American brand and they said they were “making a muslin with muslin” I was so lost (my friend from Canada was also super confused, so I think it may be a common wealth thing)
And yes, here’s to the 👐 this big form of measurements!
It's really interesting how they change your posture to be so upright
They really do. I’ve often wondered if historical clothing physically pushes posture into place, or if you just feel very upright and proper wearing it.
I find every corset/stays/pairs of bodies you make utterly fascinating. Thank you for sharing your explorations, not least because you help me with mine! Stunning make, well done you. 😁XXX
Thank you! I do really enjoy making all these foundational garments, and I’m glad others feel the same 😊
Thank you for creating and sharing this video. Immensely appreciated as I'm starved for interacting with others that sew clothes. Everyone in this area does quilts and only quilts. I make a quilt every few years to use up my scraps and then donate it to the local domestic violence help center to help someone with having to start all over again.
Your stays turned out well and fit you nicely. I never could use plastic boning because it just creates unsightly waves that emphasizes excess abdominal skin. Because of how well it forgot you, I'm envious in that regard. I would have also gone with a denim aswell. Bull denim came to my mind. Glad you were able to use up the glasses be leather that you had to do this project.
Currently I ran across McCall NY The Collection patterns. Strange that I don't remember seeing them when they were in the pattern books. I really love older avant-garde clothing. Its still edgey today which is what I am after. Some reworking to remove the blocky shoulders from the 80s and 90s and I will have something really fun to wear.
A slight brag... My kids bought me lengths of black in Ponte knit, heavy stretch cotton blend twill, embroidered eyelet fabric, jersey knits and Pins cotton broadcloth. Then they bought me some red/grey/black stripe quilting cotton and red, grey and camel rayon jersey knits. Quite a Mother's Day gift that wasn't expected. After years of telling me that I need to be committed because of my endless sewing with the majority being clothes for them, the concepts of quality garment construction, quality fabric and what would work for certain projects imprinted in their brains as adults. Very nice surprise for me.
Thank you! I was pretty happy with the boning all things considered- I think it helps that the body is completely boned with no gaps.
I just looked up the McCall patterns a d they are gorgeous- that particular era of 80s-90s avant garde is timelessly chic (I think so anyway.)
That was so thoughtful of your kids! I love when people I don’t think are interested in my sewing pursuits give me something related to it, it makes me realize that even though we all have different interests I’m still appreciated. I hope you make something amazing with all of it and think of them when you wear it!
@@anotherdreamgonewest You're welcome. Will keep completely boned in mind for future projects.
Agree that 80-90s avant garde is timelessly chic. My favorite was Issey Miyake and I sewed up tons of things from him while in college in the 80s.
@@anotherdreamgonewest I just found a vintage pattern for a woman's Ulster coat. It's late 60s to early 70s. That will add much to my wardrobe
Oh my goodness good job, kids!! That's amazing. They're forcing you to be generous with yourself, I love it! I know what you mean about not having an in person community for fashion and costuming, especially the historical mashed up with modern. Do you have any plans for the fabric, yet?
@@uschilou I wasn't expecting my kids to do anything like this. I plan on some knit dresses, blouses, vests, knickers and jackets. Clothes these that I can just wear for avant garde fun, instead of making everything be able to go from professional to casual.
This recreation really brings armor to my mind. It may not be just this one but seeing it on a person? And suddenly I want a pair with a metallic outer fashion layer. I don't know in words how it brings me there but there I am anyway. Probably something in the rigidity and how it kind of simplifies but exaggerates the desired silhouette
I’m delighted that this video popped up in my feed and have watched several of your videos. New subscriber, and look forward to going along for the ride.
Those look wonderful! Any Elizabethan lady would be happy to wear them!
Aw thanks!!
What a beautiful pair of bodies. Have you tried German plastic boning? Much better than zip ties. I am really looking forward to seeing the farthingale and the modern pieces inspired by them.
Where do you get them?
Thank you! The muslin/toile/calico thing had been confusing me for years. I’ve tried working with muslin and it’s so easily stretched out of shape I was baffled as to why it seemed to be the go to for prototypes!
It really is true that England and America are two countries separated by the same language. I’m going to try to at least be consistent with which term I use!
And absolutely- I only ever saw muslin fabric being used in the very early stages of pattern drafting/testing in the actual industry. Otherwise they used a fabric as close as possible to what would ultimately be used 🤷♀️
Currently daydreaming about having the time for my own historical mash up - a pinafore dress crossed with an English farmer’s smock (fuelled by my jealousy of the Austrian dirndl and all beautiful national dress in general 😂)
That looks Cool..
Love the video.
Recently discovered you...
Take care..😊
These look so great - lovely clean lines.
Elizabethan fashion is really something, isn't it? This particular pair of stays seems extremely long, though. I can see, that it matches well with the portrait, visually, but can you actually sit down in it?
Do we know, how tall Queen Elizabeth was?
We don't know how tall she was. Historians estimate that she was between 5' 3" and 5' 5", though.
Her father is alleged to be 6’2” so I wonder if she would be on the taller end of the estimates.
If you look at contemporary engravings, you would see that women were quite queenspreading when sitting lol
@r0ute66junkie is right, 5’3”-5’5” is the estimate, which was taller than average for a Tudor woman. There are contemporary accounts where people remark on her height, so it all checks out.
Queenspreading may be my new favorite term! Yes, you can sit in these- not as comfortably as other corsets/stays, but it’s possible. I’ve heard a lot of speculation over just how much of what we see in portraits represents normal, everyday wear in this era particularly. It’s entirely possible these types of bodies would have been more for special occasions and something a bit more forgiving would have been worn for everyday dress.
Very interesting! Oof yeah the order of operations can be such a pain! I had similar happen recently, only I had to pull out boning I'd put in too soon lol. The leather going so far was impressive though!
I mean this in the best way possible: You look so much like a Tim Burton character
Haha- I’ll take that in the best way possible. Thank you!
It’s not a surprise that women fainted all the time because of their clothing. Watching you explore fashion leads me to think some things have never really changed. For the most part it just went under the clothes and given names like ‘long line bra, girdles, corsets, spanx, to name a few. At least the waist is not expected to be 13inches…lol. And don’t for get the term, ‘hourglass shape’…36-24-36…
It’s going to fascinating to watch your styles take shape.
Thank you- I’ll say this particular pair of bodies was the most constricting I’ve worn, and there isn’t anywhere to hide in the desired silhouette (you can’t really pad it out anywhere to get the proportions right without just making the whole thing tight.) we’ll see how it all turns out!