MAMIE VAN DOREN on MARILYN MONROE - Diva on DIva
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- Опубликовано: 16 авг 2018
- In a series of interviews spanning more than a quarter century, Mamie Van Doren - the last surviving '50s blonde bombshell - shares her thoughts and memories of Marilyn Monroe.
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Remember the hilarious scene in Pulp Fiction when John Travolta was educating Uma Thurman on all the blonde bombshells... she thought there were two Marilyn Monroes serving in the restaurant but one of them was Mamie van Doren! "I don't see Jayne Mansfield, she must have the night off' LOL
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Did they only mention those 3 in that movie?
*The worst thing that ever happened to Marilyn was meeting those Kennedys....*
No, it was sleeping with them that got her killed.
I hate the Kennedys. JFK and Bobby used and abused Marilyn and they had her killed.
They kïlled her
She wasn't killed. She was troubled and committed suicide.
@@fraser_mr2009 lol right.
This was full of contradictions. First Mamie claimed that Marilyn was “murdered” then she said Marilyn didn’t “straighten out” and paid for her drug use. Well, which was it?!?
Also, I don’t think they were great friends as she claimed. Marilyn was a private person who kept her inner circle small. These ladies were probably acquaintances at best. Mimi reminds me of another Jeanne Carmen.
Jeanne Carmen was a big fraud. While Mamie does not make some of the outrageous claims like Jeannie did. I agree she was not as close to Marilyn as she'd like people to believe. I've followed Mamie on social media for years. She has said things like Marilyn wasn't very nice. She loves it when people tell her she was more beautiful and talented then Marilyn. But let's face it Marilyn was far more beautiful and talented then Mamie could ever hope to be. A few years ago TCM did a mini marathon of some of Mamie's movies. Since I'd never seen them before I decided to DVR them. Each was worse the next. B movies can often times be just as good as A. Some B movies can be so bad they're good. Mamie's movies were just bad.
@@lancedukel3436 I like Mamie, she's part of pop culture and made her mark and is still going strong at 88. But I think she's been a bit wishy washy about her feelings for Marilyn over the years. And I think she exaggerates when it comes to how well she knew Marilyn. Same goes for Mickey Rooney. He liked to make himself out to be more important in Marilyn's life and career then he ever really was, like claiming he's the one who named her Marilyn Monroe. When it was actually Ben Lyon who helped come up with the name. There's even a photograph of Ben with Marilyn that she signed and wrote thanking him for finding her, naming her and believing in her when no one else did.
Renee ...being murdered and being on drugs and having to pay for it are not contradictory! The choices you make while abusing alcohol or
drugs can get you murdered!
She didn't know Marilyn at all, obviously.
Mamie is a talented lady but never had the success or quality of films that Marilyn had, also rather fickle for example while Doris Day was living always catty that Doris was cold to her when they did a film together. But after Doris died, she adores Doris even took part in a recent documentary praising her.
Brigitte Bardot on Marilyne Monroe pls 💕
Straight vodka was not Marilyn's bag according to Susan Strasberg, but I guess it's possible that she went for the hard stuff at the end of her downward spiral. In any case, at least Mamie speaks kindly about Monroe.
Marilyn was a champagne girl, all the way.
@@zero_bs_tolerance8646 Her favorite brand: Piper Heidsieck. She'd start on it early in the day.
Mamie Van Doren is celebrating her 90th birthday today, February 6, 2021. She is an American actress, model, singer, and sex symbol. She is perhaps best remembered for the rock 'n' roll, juvenile delinquency exploitation movie Untamed Youth (1957). She was born on February 6, 1931 in Rowena, South Dakota. She is of three-quarters Swedish ancestry; the remainder is mixed English and German. She was engaged to heavyweight boxing champion Jack Dempsey, but broke the engagement upon signing a contract with Universal Studios.
Producer Howard Hughes discovered Van Doren when she was crowned Miss Palm Springs. The pair dated for several years. Hughes launched her career by placing her in several RKO films
She is so FABULOUS !!!💛
There are so many contradictions in her various interviews concerning Marilyn! At this point it doesn’t matter because she’s the last one standing because they all are dead now so just let her carry on with the contradictions
I had the pleasure of meeting her son in the 80s at a small recording studio in Southern California. I was the only one who remembered her there. Had a lovely talk with Perry. He told me I could come over and visit her and she also collected Art Deco. Why did I not go!!! I’m still upset with myself after all these years. 😔
Damn! That's still a great story though!
Oh, that's a nice story.
Your awesome Mamie ❤️
I absolutely adore mamie!
I just LOVE Mamie Van Doren! ❤️
I take what Mamie says with a pinch of salt too much contradictory info Shelley winters was the best on Marilyn
I agree, Shelley was really warm towards Marilyn and was genuine.
Exactly
Shelley winters and Jane Russel. Jane always talks about marilyn with such respect and honesty I wish Marilyn had stayed close with her
I've heard that Shelley Winters and Marilyn were frends. That they arrived in Hollywood around the same time and shared a bathing suit.....lol
But I haven't heard anything Shelley Winters said about Marilyn. What did she say?
No comparison. Marilyn was a natural beauty and had talent.
Mamie reminds me on a cross between Meryl Streep and Dolly Parton.
I love Mamie 🩷
As duas são lindas
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+1 Mamie
She reminds me of Jeanne Carmen
Another marilyn fantasist!!!
Jeannie was in a class of her own.... imagination!
I sense jealousy...
Who is jealous?
Some people just don't appreciate Swedish Americans.
They should've put Marilyn, Jayne and Mamie in the same film to highlight how different
all 3 of them were
I'm glad Mamie survived and escaped that corrosive atmosphere
Подражает Мэрилин. Мэрилин безподобна💎💖❤️
Interesting
She was going to blow the whistle on the Kennedy's
She’s not anywhere on Monroe’s level.
You mean in a coffin? No Mamie isn't.
@@lancedukel3436 🤨🤫🤫🤫
Strait vodka on the rocks and pills is a slow suicide
what always irked me was the story of how allegedly mamie was at a bar in 1962 in new york and as she tells it, the bartender told her that miss monroe is in the back sitting by herself, mamie goes on to say how she went to sit and talk to marilyn and how marilyn was troubled, and sad and talking about being fired from something's got to give and worried about her career and losing her looks and so and so on and how mamie then says that she knew what marilyn was going thru, because her own career and roles were drying up and it was soon to be the end of the blond bombshell era...
what gets me, whether this story is true and it even happened is the ridiculous notion that mamie saw herself as marilyn's equal in terms of ANYTHING, career, fame, power, etc!....as we all know marilyn was re-hired, was suppose to make "what a way to go" after something's got to give, (which would have been a hit as it was with shirley maclaine in the role) and other A-list movies on the horizon, mamie? um, not so much!....
Mamie is far more intelligent than Monroe ever was. Proofs in the pudding.
@@lancedukel3436 hmm, really? 1) want to compare quotes and interviews of the two 2) if she was so more intelligent than monroe how then was she only to be a drive in b and c level success??
none of it makes sense...real women never speak on another's personal life. If I considered you a friend, whether you were dead or alive, NO ONE is gettin any info on my girl ;) it took me till age 36 to realize how important it is to have loyal female friends.
@@tomschmitz261 she's alive still, no pills or booze. Nuff said.
@@lancedukel3436 well yes, Mamie had the long life, Marilyn had the much greater career, and that is what I was discussing. Mamie career wise has no business even being mentioned in the same breath as Marilyn. As it is, the vast vast majority of the public have never heard of her. nuff said back...
Mamie you were 12 and had a boyfriend, where were your parents. She shouldnt have a boyfriend at 12. She said I didnt know her at the time because i was 12 and you saw her modeling.
Marilyn started modelling for the Blue Book Agency in 1945. Mamie van Doren was born in 1931, so she was at least 14, if not older.)
Beautywise, she eclipses them all. Probably characterwise too.
please clarify...tyia
Mamie never seems to age at all?, she does not look any different now then when she did 30 years ago. Lovely lady.
Oh please 😂
Dub Dots Period 😂
She got a ton of face lifts.. 😂 I follow her and she’s in her 90s her face doesn’t move
we ALL THINK Marilyn was murdered.
How come she had a dutch last name?
Mamie Van Doren was her professional "stage name".She was born Joan Olander
Unfortunately Ms Mamie, Marilyn Monroe is a superstar and not a starlet like you. We all know that
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A boyfriend at 12??
Why is mamie even compared to Marilyn? I can see jane Russell and Marilyn being compared. But who tf is mamie??
She's "America's favorite sex kitten! " you're welcome.
Mamie is an amazing soul.
I think Mamie's "recall" of Marilyn Monroe changed like the Weather and seemed a bit "imaginary". Mamie's progressive Interviews over the years reminded me of Pinocchio. I suspect that her "knowing" Marilyn was the only thing of interest to the Public and what continued to give her any attention as the years went on. I think it more likely that her "knowing" Marilyn were simply passing "Moments". If you listen to an Interview with Diana Dors, that seemed more of an example of a "very good friend" and a part of Marilyn's extremely small Circle of Friends. But since Marilyn is not around to confirm or deny, whose to say?
But what can't be denied is Mamie was certainly a beautiful Woman but simply no equal to Marilyn's talent and allure.
Jane Russell is on several RUclipss discussing MM, and it varies. I'm paraphrasing... "Marilyn was totally professional, on time, knew her lines." "No, her problems started much later than Gentlemen Prefer Blonds." "Toward the end of shooting, she started coming in late." I don't think Jane was intentionally lying, I think she was just old and had trouble recalling. Speaking as An Old myself, I know how it is.
@@akrenwinkle There's nothing contradictory in the way Jane speaks of Marilyn. She said Marilyn was ambitious but "very very shy" and had a hard time leaving her dressing room. She added that Marilyn started coming in a little late so she'd stop by the dressing room and pick her up.
@@naracharlize3792 You can't have it both ways. Either Marilyn was totally professional and on time during the making of "GPB" and her problem with lateness began on pictures afterward... or toward the end of shooting ("GPB"), she started coming in late. And we don't really know was "a little late means." Also, if Marilyn needed someone to stop by and pick her up, that's not professional. Like millions of people, I'm a Marilyn fan, but... there's this gaslighting trend now, although it's probably nothing new. Words have no meaning, anything can mean anything, we're asked to doubt what's obvious.
@@akrenwinkle Jane said many times there was no problem on the set of GPB. I trust her judgement, she was there. "a little late" means exactly that for Jane, a little late. I think you're being hard on Marilyn here, Jane offering emotional support is not "unprofessional". Why are you trying to create drama when the people who were there said there wasn't any? On her later films, I'd agree.
@@naracharlize3792 I didn't say Jane was unprofessional; I said Marilyn needing to be picked up was unprofessional. I was not referring to "many times," only to exactly what Jane said in this particular RUclips, and I'm not sure you watched it. Jane contradicted herself. That means she clearly said one thing, then walked it back and said the opposite. She didn't use any big words, so there's no question about it.
And if you think what I said is dramatic, you're quite the snowflake.
Contradicting statements from Mamie
I’m sorry… don’t believe a word of it 🤣 I doubt she met Marilyn
She seems sweet
I’m not sure that MVD was ever really that friendly with NJ/MM.
NJ When she wasn’t “being Marilyn” was introverted, shy and bookish.
She was also nobody’s fool and would have kept someone like MVD at arm’s length.
Don’t forget that all these starlets were treated as disposable by the studios and had to fight to keep their places.
Marilyn had genuine talent and also knew which films to go for and which to refuse.
She worked her tuchus off to get to an established position where she could carry a film on her own.
Neither Van Doren or Mansfield were ever in that league.
Marilyn’s an icon.
MVD is a B-list movie starlet who never quite made it.
Jayne Mansfield had a better career and she was all squeals and titties.
As to Marilyn’s death, I think she accidentally ODd.
Then there was shenanigans afterwards with people trying to revive her and failing and also her place being ransacked for incriminating info she had on RBK.
I don’t believe she was murdered or committed suicide. She was an addict and it killed her.
yea cus u knew her soooo well
Joi Lansing was much prettier than Mamie Van Doren, in my humble opinion.
yeah mamie got the new script allright it said 2 things
1. marilyn was a junkie and died of an overdose ...got it 2. if you don´t cooperate watch yr back mamie
No, no ,no😂
I have always thought she is a liar.