Merseyrails New Class 777 Trains
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- Опубликовано: 15 окт 2024
- Merseytravel kindly invited me up to their Traction Maintenance Depot in Kirkdale, Liverpool to have a look at the new 'Triple 7' trains which have been delivered by Stadler and are now under test, and should be rolled out to the network soon.
The new units seems to have everything - walk through carriages, level boarding, modern colour displays, CCTV, flip up seats, accessible area, bike area, buggy area, charging points ... they might just be the best new trains being rolled out onto the network right now!
My thanks to David Powell and everyone at Merseytravel for getting us along for the day!
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BONUS FUN: Can you spot the clips in the video where it's a drone shot? they ... let me fly my drone INSIDE the train, to get a fun shot! hee hee ...
Sounds dangerous! But hey, gotta get them epic gamer shots!
nice
1:56 and 3:36 i honestly have no idea
Geoff, what is your favourite train?
Cool, but where's the shot of the allotments? :-)
I always hear people complaining about these modern aventra style trains, saying they have no character or that they're just pieces of plastic, but then I see them or go on them and they're really cool - spacious, inculsive, accessible, just overall nice
I completely agree! I love the new trains on the UK network.
Unfortunately the aventras/desiros aren't the most accessible trains, unlike the 745/755/777s made by Stadler, but one thing people tend to forget about all these new trains (versus older units) are the gangways! Always a huge improvement over old trains with narrow corridors and it's great to have such a wide range of new trains setting the standards for comfort
@@its-eric Comfort? I guess that's where the ironing board seats come in... (rolls eyes)
It's the appearence I think that is a problem, the overall functionality of the newer trains is cool though. I do like the 707s look. And the class 730, but some of the other designs are the newer trains just don't hit it off well. Only problem with class 700s and aventras..their motors are quiet and don't sound very nice haha . Admittedly class 745s and 755s have nice sounding traction motors. And so does the 331, but again , they aren't the most visually appealing to alot of people ..Well to me personally.
They’re awesome looking and are super functional!
0:52 - Georgia out here asking the real questions xD
Finally, Merseyrail content! All we need now is secrets of the Merseyrail
Idk like, The decorated Platform at James St, Disused platforms and track alignment at Ormskirk, Aintree, Lost lines of the Wirral, Disused Garston?
@@NickBadley Ye this is ur guy
@@phpines i'd imagine liverpool exchange, birkenhead woodside, liverpool central high level, and liverpool crown street termini would be big points
Love seeing the active implementation of 'nudge theory' with the integration of cctv into the passenger display. Its simple yet really effective.
And finally, at long last, they're coming this Monday!
Excellent video uploaded on my birthday- it's my first day of self isolating and I'm not feeling great, so this cheered me up Geoff!
Gutted, I work at the depot. Would’ve loved to have met you! Hope you enjoyed the tour of the facilities!
Thanks for all your hard work!
The front kind of looks like the DLR trains.
I think all new trains should have platform level doors that slide out just to give wheelchair users some independence.
I agree! It's also great for other walking and even visually impaired users!
I agree, but got to remember that a lot of platforms are at different levels
@@anniesoernym 100%!
As someone who spends quite a bit of time pushing a wheel chair - much as I want to see this too, the trouble is that not every platform is at the same height, plus there's issues when you come to curved platforms etc.
@@bostonrailfan2427 sadly not it’s not. As @Jamie Arnell mentioned a lot of platforms are different levels therefore making this very difficult. Also not all trains are built by stadler meaning that there would be different standards
Everybody now - 'we all live in a yellow submarine'
Ha ha ha 😂😂😂
They are in Liverpool, so that’s good
A yellow submarine, A yellow submarine
Bombardier new trains: Plasitic
Hitachi: speed
Siemens: ironing boards
Stadler: absolute amazing
Hitachi’s new trains also have uncomfortable af seats except on Lumo
You're uploading this video on the day I started working on the battery version of this train. What a coincidence. I've also previously done some work on one of these units when it was still at the manufacturing plant in St. Margrethen, Switzerland. So I'm very glad to see these on your channel.
Looking forward to these. But you know you’re getting old when you think of the trains that are being replaced as “the new trains”.
Yes, I remember when they came replacing the 502 and 503! Thing is, they still look modern inside from the last refurb.......
I remember going to see them at Southport station over 25 years ago now for their refit, to be fair they've stood up well. Always preferred to use them over the Northern stock.
These look really great, but I have to admit that the front end takes a bit of getting used to. Still, it's a huge step forward from the old stock.
Well thought out layout but ugly looking things
If you think these are ugly then clearly you've not yet seen the Bombadier Aventra series, eg class 710. The front end looks like a goose thats flown into a wall.
Exciting times ahead I guess. Plus hopefully as you said Geoff, love the possiblity of Helsby being linked up to Merseyrail and that that could create a Mersey loop line through Runcorn and the Halton curve towards Liverpool South parkway
The batteries are being tested presently, with a range of around 20-25 miles... Therefore to return at the end of the line the train needs to either get back and go no further than 10-12 miles or recharge at the last station for (30 minutes?) before returning... A Class 777 did go on batteries all the way from Sand Hills to Stockport, but returned using third rail. Decisions have to be made concerning a safety factor, ten percent or whatever...
A lot of people in Ellesmere Port have to drive to Helsby, where there is limited parking, to travel to Manchester, being able to travel from the Port will be a boost.
Im hoping more work is done on the battery stuff. You could really open the network and improve connectivity with just a smidge more range. Frequent trains from Southport to Wigan would open up connections to Manchester as even though Southport is the 6th busiest station in the NW, its connectivity to Manchester gets worse every year.
Or not even the batteries, these trains can use overhead power too. Opening up other Liverpool stations such as Edge Hill to bring them into the Merseyrail network would be great.
Really hope this is just the first part of Steve Rotherham et all to change transport in the city region.
Love love LOVE that there are areas for wheelchair users, buggies and bikes; no more racing to get there first!
Also, having had to de-train once out the front of a Central Line tube train via a wee wooden ladder (pre wheelchair days, Obvs!) that option to pull up to a train in front is an entirely preferable idea!
I love how that it also turned out to be a convention of British railway RUclipsrs
They'll be out of date by the time they arrive on our tracks. What is the hold Up?
As an American I am extremely jealous of British Rail cars! While there are great commuter cars in the Boston-New York-Washington corridor, the rest of the commuter trains in America are just New York style subway trains, designed to get the most people stuffed inside. BTW: Seeing as how the trains have such big windows in front, wouldn't it be nice if some passengers could sit there? I always thought that looking ahead was better then looking out the side windows! They could even charge extra for a special ticket!
Geoff you missed that the class 777 has an extending platform by the door which bridges the gap between train and platform. Merseytail can do this as they have platforms at the same height, hopefully!
Personally i don't like the styling and colour scheme, but the rest is really good.
'Are the chairs squeaky, that the question?' GLovesTrains always make me laugh (sorry getting side track) But the video is awesome Geoff, lovely presented and I have seen Nodrog's video and GLovesTrains's Video and just like to say (hope you don't mind) you all did a fantastic job with the Class 777 video. I've seen the mock up myself at Liverpool Lime Street and seen then being delivered to Kirkdale Depot but cannot wait to ride on myself.
Looking forward to these coming up here to Newcastle, Gateshead, Sunderland etc for the Tyne and Wear Metro in 2023 (they're very similar)
Are they similar or just the same
@@flightplanaviation. they're very similar, not sure if they're gonna be 100% the same yet though, they're still being built atm and we've only seen concepts
On the Tyne and Wear Metro, they will be in a more London Tube style with the seats going down the sides increasing standing capacity. The new fleet will also allow more regular services as well.
@@stephenc2022 They will not be the same. The Tyne and Wear units will have completely different dimensions, as they have to be narrower to fit the Metro loading gauge.
Nice video Geoff, the 777’s certainly are brilliant units. I can’t wait to see them in service on the Merseyrail network.
Some aspects remind me of the amazing trains I saw in Japan. I can't wait for these, they'll make accessibility for my Mammy so much easier, she basically can't use the current Merseyrail trains.
I never thought I’d see the day my beloved Kirkdale Depot made it to one of Geoff’s videos!! I was Design Coordinator and Civil/structural engineer for this project a few years ago :)
This video validates my opinion that Stadler is the best manufacturer of passenger trains, especially regional/commuter trains. They’re just superb.
Ah great video Geoff! Thanks for showing me the new trains that run on the line I would travel on when I use the line. Can’t wait for a ride in these. Keep up the fantastic videos.
As a Merseyside local I've been looking forward to these, going to miss the PEPs though. Grew up with them.
Absolutely amazing modern tech on our trains. really really looking forward to them coming in to service Thanks Geoff
I spy a cameo from a certain GLovestrains!
Another top video Geoff! I’m currently enjoying your videos from Greater Anglia that’s inspired me to plan a future journey to Berney Arms,but not in the winter!!
They look fantastic! Can't wait for a Merseyrail bash on one of these trains!
These are probably my only favourite new train. They look so fast too
Good vid, Geoff. I live in Liverpool. We've been waiting an age for these trains. The current ones are...... Well they're showing their age, lets put it that way.
I never know what I like more about Geoff's videos the content or the music. It's always a struggle to decide I do love the music in his videos
Excellent video Geoff, pleased to see the new 777s have arrived. I've ridden these Merseyrail routes quite often on the old stock when working away and I have to say it's an impressive system.
I was in Liverpool a few years ago and came by merseyrail to Birkenhead to see the heritage tramway and while following the tramway we found a trashed 1/2 way up the line and found one of these new trains you are showing now and I got my picture in the drivers cab which I used as my facebook profile picture. I was lucky to find this new train when I did (which was I think the end of 2018). Brilliant Video.👍
That would’ve been the mock-up they were using to demonstrate some of the features to the public and gather feedback on any alterations needing to be made.
I live in Merseyside and I can’t wait for these to come into service cos they look great 👍🏻
Making me excited for the Stadler Tyne and Wear metro trains
Pacer replacements will also be the Stadler Flirt :D
@@tramlink8544 i want Nexus to take over Northern rail stuff around Tyne and Wear like TFL rail in London. One smart ticketing system, one network. But the money for that won't come our way
They honestly look really well designed and well thought out!
brilliant after seeing Nodrogs and G loves trains vlogs on these and now this one im now loving these i hope they are in service when i hit the north in September so that i can have a ride on 1 or 2
These look pretty good. Well considered interiors, not too ugly. Stadler are doing a lot right these days.
We really need trains with that high quality spec here in Dublin, especially with regards to walkthrough carriages and bike spaces. It seems that Iarnrod Eireann has already awarded the contract for new trains to Alstom, hopefully with enough public and media pressure they'll add the features of these trains into the final production design :)
I regularly take my bike on Merseyrail. It’s still not clear if the 777 class bike accommodation will firmly hold a 700c x 25 wheel and tyre ( the 507/8s don’t). I can’t say it’s obvious from what I’ve seen how the 777 wheel support will actually work.
Very cool that Tyne & Wear Metro will also be getting similar trains (555s).
i like how proud they seems
As a yank, I have to say we could learn a thing or three from this including the dedicated buggy space. I can't say how many times you got onto a train, BART seems similar to this, and someone with a buggy comes on and all of a sudden the space available went way down since the bike area was full of bikes & bags, usually overflowing too. While nothing is perfect it looks like they did their homework on it and I am impressed.
Nice video. The new 777 trains look so futuristic 😮
What a sleek video, Geoff! You obviously had fun editing it 😄
The trains look really cool and awfully spacious! I like all the inclusive designs and hope that passengers will be considerate of their actual function.
Looks pretty good, and I hope the passengers are pleased, so let's also hope that these are built to last for 40 years like their predecessors.
I've been dying for these to go to service, can't wait to travel on these
Trains too long for the platforms... Good job they're getting extended! Going there tonight to do some of the GI for the extensions!
Surely it would be better for those fold up seats to be spring loaded so they will always default into the upright position (similar to the S7/8 underground stock) so that a passenger who needs the wheelchair/buggy space doesn't need to fold the seat up if its down.
I guess you would like to take a look at new Russian trains - Moskva (particularly the 2020 version that runs in Moscow on lines 5 and 6; earlier versions run on lines 4, 6, 7, 8A, and 15) for the Moscow Metro, and Ivolga (“Oriole”, particularly v.2 and the upcoming v.3) that run on D1 and D2 lines (equivalent of RER, S-Bahn, or Thameslink; MCD system is currently in progress, there should be 5 lines by 2025 and up to 8 by mid-2030s, currently there are two with major (scheduled) disruptions on the D2 because there is a huge and very complicated construction in the very narrow central corridor - an extension of the trackbed from historical two tracks that connect three directions, to four that will connect up to six directions - and while keeping the service as consistent as possible).
The reason the Class 777’s are very similar to a German metro system is because they are based off Class II in the German U-Bahn.
These trains are coming up north for the Tyne and Wear metro, too. No idea when they will arrive but cannot wait till we get them.
nice to see Stadler branching into the UK now :) cant go wrong with Swiss trains
Not all Stadler trains are built equally equal though. Seats on GA's 745sand 755 FLIRTs are great and somewhat comfortable. But the those FLIRTs in Switzerland are awful, seats on those RABe 522s in Geneva operated by SBB CFF FFS are rock solid and leg room was trash. The only worse seats I can think about is none other than those ironing boards on GTR's 700/717 Desiros.
@@pikachu8508 true but thats not on Stadler but on SBB. the companies are offered various seat choices. but hey it can be worse. VBZ in Zurich brand new Flexity trams have WOODEN seats :D
@@tramlink8544 That's what I'm talking about, different train operators have different preference. Just like comparing 378s with other Electrostars, Most Electrostars seats are formed with either 2+2 or 3+2 layout and have toilets on board, but those in 378s are metro style longitudinal layout and no toilets. I wonder why GTR is dumb enough to choose ironing board seats for their 700 that used between Brighton and Bedford, 2 hours apart......🤔 By the way, plastic and stainless steel hard seats are very common in trams and metro trains even in first world countries like Singapore and USA.😂
So happy I’ll get to ride these when we are out of COVID and there on the network
Great video Geoff, just reminds me to get over to Merseyside get some photography of the 507/8s.
Very smart! the yellow colour reminded me of Berlin's new trains. I wonder if you've seen them? The seating positions are down the side with room for a car in the middle, views going forever. Just great for herding people in to stand for the journey. I see, you met Louis.. Great film too, of course. Fun everywhere.
This was alluded to in the comments elsewhere, but given that these are yellow and tubelike, one of these units needs to have the Sgt. Peppers album art painted on the sides.
"In the town where I was born..."
I prefer Here comes the sun, little darling....
@@ronclark9724 I mean that would work - I'm just thinking of something unique and instantly identifiable. But if you gave it some thought, there's probably plenty of Beatles themed stuff you could use 😉👌
As a Merseyrail user, I’ve been waiting for this!!!!!!!
Fantastic video, Geoff !
Hi Geoff,
Yeah they look great mate. There are lots of things about these that I would associate with the sub-surface S-Stock on the Underground, which to be fair is nothing but good. But the exit doors and extra ladders at each end for ground or train to train access are a superb addition. Those info screens are a great addition too🤓
The wide connector doors make a huge difference I think, especially for disabled or ill people in an emergency. And there is something reassuring about it as it is less easy for a nasty type to isolate a victim!!! 😳
Cheers mate, nice one 😎👍🍻
i was not expecting the ladder/stairs at the front, that's very cool
As someone from Rainford I really wish they'd go that little bit further down the line past Headbolt Lane; we're still Merseyside!
They may well do one day. Battery power to Wigan Wallgate seems a distinct possibility.
I hope they will be in service when I visit Liverpool next month
Cameo from GLovesTrains. You guys should do a video together.
The 777's look great, I won't be sad to see the 507/508s go. I was gutted when the 503's went, there was something so homely about that old girl. Lovely floor heating that was appreciated on a winters day.
Absolutely agree, there was a point where the Northern had the 507 and Wirral had 503s so we took the one stop from Lime Street to Central just to ride the 503. Loved those 503s proper plush seats compared to the bone shaker 507/508s.
Looks alright, the only gripe is the seats seem to be following the modern pattern of being hard as a brick and impossible to get comfy in, looks like zero give in them.
Hi Geoff. Any plans to ride on these trains now that they're in operation?
I seee the drone shots mwahahhaa! 👌
I know they're aiming for flexibility but I don't like tip up seats for buggys (better a dedicated area) - on the old Thames links, there used to be tip up seats for cycles but even on a quiet train, people would sit on them but not want to vacate them for you on a bike - so you ended up blocking the doorways. People would get quite funny if you asked them to move even if they could easily go elsewhere. The CCTV is a great idea - hopefully the driver won't come back to the train jacked up on bricks 😂
The class 777 looks like a scene from a different country I don't think it's train for the UK do you know if I'm wrong please tell me
I hope they'll be the units alot of others will be based off of, sounds like a good kick off for this and next decade's commuter fleets
Love seeing these at Kirkdale on my way into Central from Ormskirk. Can’t wait to ride one.
Great video Geoff of these great looking new Merseyrail trains. Although I will probably say Boeing 777 when I actually mean the Class 777 and vice Versa because I mess things up like that. However it will be a shame to see the Class 507/508 PEPs go as they have been operating for so long.
Wonderful rolling stock that have served Merseyside well... ruclips.net/video/dZ9haPNDbco/видео.html
I’ve seen GLovesTrains went to see the new 777s on her video uploaded last Tuesday.
She loves trains that girl 😉 Nice of Geoff to put her in the video at the start. 😁👌🏾
I’ve even seen Geoff being featured in G’s video, but not at the beginning.
@@DaveDVideoMaker I haven't seen her vid yet, still going through her tram vids in Manchester. 😁
All right.
These trains do looking quite interesting, but i still prefer the 508 and 507s.
Yeah but i must say the livery looks smart on the new trains😃
@@gigachadenjoyer1388 yeah, the livery is pretty cool!
what are you doing here julios
@@RocketJSykes watching geoff marshall, give him a break
@pythonmegapixel well at Southern they are still going strong
Delighted to see the good accessibility options here. I am curious as to why a wheelchair or buggy user should have to raise the seats up to use the space, and not the other way round (i.e. seats sprung in the up position). Just curious. I'm sure there's a logic.
This for some reason reminds me of the 777 by Boeing… I Wonder why lol 😂
A brilliant video. :) I have also seen Nodrogs and GLovesTrains videos on the 777's. :) I'm really looking forward to when the 777's enter service on the Merseyrail network. :)
Amazing video Geoff
Love your knowledge videos
My only reservation is that the seats look to be very narrow, but I suppose on a very busy service being able to rest one cheek on a seat and have the other one hanging over the side, so to speak, is better than having to stand. Old Brunel had it right after all. We never would have had a problem making provision for wheel chair access if we'd have adopted his running gauge.
Great video Geoff, but there is one thing missing on these new trains; still no toilets which is a bit disappointing. However I am still really looking forward to them coming into service on what is my local network.
I'm liking this. If our new rolling stock is like the 777 I will be very happy.
Did anyone else start liking train stuff because of the train stations yet found themselves fascinated by actual trains?
Geoff himself remember the times when he was like "I am not a trainspotter rolling stock doesn-t interest me"
@@bostonrailfan2427 I saw an old disused platform covered in green in a station near were I lived years ago and last year I googled what it looked like 50 years ago and I saw pictures from the early 20th century and I started looking for old train station buildings with stuff still from the first pictures of them.
(Sorry for the grammar, still drunk and sad from last night)
The train will be hardly seen coming with that mostly Black frontage. Great video
Interesting that they have 'wrist breaker' vertical grab rails. If people holding on fall over if there is emergency braking they have in the past broken their wrist on the adjacent one of the vertical poles. I can't remember what train they were tried on but they were removed.
Like the link between the TOPS code and Boeing. When Boeing launched the 777 it has significant design improvements in the cabin compared to it's long/mid haul predecessors. Much as though I'll miss 507/8's (especially the 508's which followed me northward when I left Surrey/South West London to Chester). They have served Merseyrail Electric ⚡ network well.
They look kind of Japanese style to me. Very cool trains for this country. And having battery versions is exactly what we need on so much of our network.
My daughter loves just down the road from the new Headbolt Lane station. See you there Geoff?
Hopefully I'll get a chance to ride Merseyrail someday. It's kind of a hybrid, on one hand, it's a commuter network, however, it has 3rd rail (atypical for the part of country it's in), and what's more...part of it is underground, in TUBE (but they don't say the T word there, do they?) (speaking of Tube, at one time part of what's now the Merseyrail network actually used LU-style 4-rail, but it was converted to 3-rail)
Yes the facilities look great, but when are they going to come into service?
Thanks Geoff. Some great innovations there. I wonder which were Swiss-Stadler inspired, and which were British.
All new & Fancy - @ 3:49 - "Don't forget the bike racks" - good to know 🙂🚂🚂🚂
as merseytravel are getting yellow 777s, what airlines will be getting yellow 777s? how about yellow 747s? or yellow a350s?
These aren’t Stadlers! These are YellowTrains! The brother of the PurpleTrain!
:edit if geoff comments on this comment I will smash my PC
I had a yellow highlighter
@@highpath4776 nice.
Most railfans:We love old trains.
Geoff:Sounds happy talking about new trains replacing old trains.