Why do you as a Catholic use a website founded by a homosexual man depriving a child of a mother and leading it to sin, and an Israeli national who either doesn’t believe Jesus existed or that Jesus is in hell? (Dave Rubin and Assaf Lev)
The interesting psychology is the less sex you have the first month I mean no sex just talk and romantic gestures the more you are attracted to the person because you don't see him just like an object you see him as a human being with wisdom, emotions, feelings, humor, nice hobbies It is an interesting observation that if you wait to have sex, your point of view about the guy is much richer, your love and attraction to him starts to be richer and if you have the first sex after 2 or 3 months, it can be just plus because the richer the point of view about him his lifestyle, his values, his hobbies, music, science, knowledge the richer experience can be sexually and romantically....after a few months of dating. I am just guessing. I am not an expert. But experts say the same way you treat your sex life, the same way you treat other areas of your life. It's like you go to Paris, you don't want to see all the attractions and the Eiffel Tower on the first day. You just want to get some coffee in a nice restaurant and introduce yourself to the city. After a few days, you visit the attractions to absorb its beauty and interesting stuff about the city. We live in a world of easily selling the product, just by clicking on the button as television likes to promote this mindset So it's obvious that this mindset is adopted also in the romantic areas, but it doesn't work that way. People should be more natural. so you are investing your attention into knowing him, even knowing his flaws that are meaningless because you are interested in him as human, it's called imperfect perfection. You see a tree that has an imperfect shape, or size but the tree is imperfectly perfect because of its natural beauty. Nature is imperfect, and trees are imperfect, therefore they are imperfectly perfect in their beauty. Therefore humans also should not try to look perfect but natural.
Porn Industry is evil but trying to swallow a whole pineapple is not going to happen. You need to study how the Socialist and Marxist take over the western culture because your current position is exactly how the west lost to Socialism and Marxism.
You can tell Matt Walsh and Michael Knowles are the only Catholics at the Daily Wire, considering they're the only ones taking any kind of hard stance on porn and its ilk there.
@@abigailb7382 - Her husband is Catholic and she’s already said that it is the man’s responsibility to lead his family in faith. She has some questions, but based on those sorts of comments by her I think that she will become Catholic in a year or two. I also would not be at all surprised if Brett becomes Catholic. When Matt visited the Daily Wire several of them attended TLM (Traditional Latin Mass) with several of them - I’m assuming Matt Fradd, Michael, Matt W. and perhaps Candace and her husband. It would be wonderful if both DW women converted - for their sakes as well as so many others.
Brett Cooper is VERY young. When I was her age, I had similar ideas about consenting adults and was shy about telling people they were wrong in their personal sex lives. Like most young people, I was more libertarian, and had a naive point of view about "adult" behaviors. Honestly, she's much more reasonable than most people her age, and as she gains wisdom, she will probably come to understand why there is no such thing as healthy and happy fornicators.
They also aren’t part of Brett Cooper’s generation. Believe me as someone who is part of that generation, it’s shocking enough to find someone with Brett’s views expressed in this video. Our generation has been exposed to this evil since we were essentially children. We’ve been told it’s normal and healthy by almost every source of mainstream media we’ve been force fed, by the teachers in our schools, and by our peers. Parents often don’t get just how bad things are because they were never exposed to free internet porn, where you can see literally whatever you want at any second. So be encouraging of the young adults today who are waking up to the evil that is porn. Be supportive of them, even if they don’t perfectly understand the full extent of how evil it is. Offer a prayer to St. Augustine that this generation can break free of the sexual deviancy that’s been thrust upon it.
Matt said: ""You don't have to concede the argument just because you don't know how to defend your position." This is the most profound thing I have heard in a long while. It gave me pause. I always feel like I lose if I get caught up in an opponent's point. Thank you for giving me the confidence to say "I disagree, but I can't articulate it right now. let me get back to you later."
@@joshuadunham3018 if you can't define how you came to hold your positions or beliefs then you should reexamine them. What you're talking about is post hoc reasoning. It's working backwards from your conclusion.
@@jamesk3612 You seem to be arguing against some other idea besides the one the original commenter espoused, and which I thought you understood. No one said anything about not being able to define how they came to hold their positions or beliefs in the first place. This discussion is about someone presenting a new argument you haven't thought of. I'm sure if I went back in time to a hundred years ago, I could probably make some interesting, even convincing, arguments for a flat earth to someone without a college education from the 1920s. They could say, "Well, I don't know how to defend my position based on the knowledge I have now, so I guess I'd better abandon what I believe" and just change their entire view of the world based on what I said. Or, they could they take the time to do research beyond what they were taught in middle school and get back to me. The latter is what I assume Matt (and the commenter) were recommending.
@@joshuadunham3018 do you have discord? I'd be down to have a conversation about it. My position is that, yes, you should abandon your beliefs if you can't defend them. The null position is a lack of belief in something, if you are making a positive claim then you should have reasons (i.e. be able to defend) why you believe that thing.
When I was stationed in South Korea, pornography was banned. Sure, there were creative ways around it, American military personnel were often experts at accessing it. But, just the act of banning major sites and making it difficult to access made for a much more normal and sane society. The US should absolutely ban it. It’s not a free speech issue, as you don’t have a right to have sex in a public place. Now, you could require people to make accounts to access private websites, but even then pornography is not a free speech issue because 49 States ban prostitution, and pornography is a form of selling your body or that of another person or persons. We must push for an absolute ban on porn, with serious consequences. It might not be politically tenable now, but as society falls apart it turns to the Catholic way when things are dire. We know for a fact things will only get more dire, this is not sustainable.
More importantly, production of porn is illegal in South Korea. It's really a no-brainer for a state that cares about its people to protect young women from this sort of predation. The porn firewall is a good thing. It's really easy to get around, but that extra barrier is nice. It stops kids from wandering into the stuff. I used to live in SK, and at the time I had no moral qualms about porn. I don't think the extra step of opening a VPN ever discouraged me from porn use. But it can't hurt.
In Mexico prostitution is supposedly illegal, but there are many businesses that front as spas or stylists but are actually brothels. But, you know, the "humane" type, the "fancy" types, the "nice massages with happy endings". Everybody knows, too. It's wild.
@@blankmantm2501 that is true of some areas of South Korea and here in California where I live too. Seems like the authorities aren’t doing their due diligence sometimes. There’s a lot of human trafficking happening in places like that.
As an evangelical, this is the best thing I have ever watched Matt Fradd post! I love watching you preach Matt! I love how your Catholic roots establish your Christian worldview, and how you articulate it so well in response to something going on in our broken world. Keep it up brother.
I love that Matt is fighting to bring up society's standards. It's such a necessary fight. I think the problem here is that conservatism is edging away from religion and looking at things too legalistically (almost like the Pharisees - just saying) instead of rooting one's view of the world through the eyes of Christ and living to join Him in heaven one day. Conservatism is never gonna fix these problems because it worships the founding fathers instead of the Father. I say this as a conservative, but I'll always be Catholic first and foremost.
These conservatives aren’t even worshiping the founding fathers, they’re worshiping warped, half-formed pictures of them. If you resurrected any of them and said, for instance, that you permitted pornography and banned prayer in schools based off the first amendment, they would be shocked and appalled, might even challenge you to a duel. None of them indicated they saw any conflict between the first amendment and blasphemy laws, which predated the revolution and continued to be passed over a century after the revolution. John Adams said, “Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious People. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.” James Madison wrote that our Constitution requires “sufficient virtue among men for self-government,” otherwise, “nothing less than the chains of despotism can restrain them from destroying and devouring one another.” Most conservatives can’t handle that, can’t accept that according to the founders themselves, this libertarian streak is incompatible with the structure of our country.
@Megan okay, I see what you're saying, and I agree. The conservatism a lot of conservatives are subscribed to isn't even to the standards of the founding fathers they claim to follow. I can definitely see that in how we claim to be conserving freedom but have caved to certain moral and spiritual things because "it'sa free country" due to the lost logic that society should be held to a moral standard that says no to people doing whatever they want. You're right - people really don't understand what kind of country the founding fathers envisioned and how that deviates from this radical "freedom" that even conservatives push which may have dug us into the moral hole we are in today. Excuse my symbolism of the worship of the founding fathers, then. They're worshipping a false freedom that is blinding them from the further destruction they are causing by not barring societal behavior that is immoral.
Secular conservativism was never going to work, because without its objective moral base it turns into a "do whatever ya wanna do" libertarian attitude. But it can also lead to worship of the state or certain traditions. Where I live is said to be a very conservative country, though for many people conservativism means the worship of hazy, unscientific pagan alleged-traditions of our nation mixed in with some elements of Catholicism. I don't believe any type of -ism is good in itself if it lacks the fundamental teachings of the Bible.
I am a strong catholic and I’ve been struggling since a very young age. 22 now. Feels like I’m in a jail cell sometimes trapped by my desires. Still fighting it everyday. Have not made it past 3 weeks without doing it. Pray for me everyone please.
Check out in this channel other talks on porn and also the resources they share for it...Matt has struggled too even after being married ( pretty sure that's his testimony) it's is NOT irredeemable YOU ARE LOVED, I've struggled as well , definitely try to talk to one person about it. Even just over the phone, or at least start with God, be brutality honest with God in prayer , say it outloud or write down ALL your thoughts about what you feel / think about sex and why you are struggling...just write ANYTHING you feel and LET IT OUT , honestly is the first step....I had to let my feelings out to God like " why can't I have this. It's so good!" Etc... from someone who is still tempted myself follow HOW - be Honest, then can you be Open to change? You will find yourself naturally open over time from being honest, then Willingness to follow God's true healthy design for s*x , God doesn't want obedience that is solely based of fear, He wants to love you into the the truth , if you fill yourself up with truth about God's design for s*x the temptation to use it will slowly lessen ♡
I am so sick of hearing about "consent" being the determining factor of whether something is morally acceptable or not. Most people would feel like an absolute sleeze and would be ashamed of themselves if they were actually in the room where the porn they were watching was actually happening. It wouldn't matter if the people engaged in the sex acts were consenting, most people would feel dirty. Porn is clearly wrong in all circumstances.
Well, we live in an age when most think it is our desire that makes something good, not the thing itself. So they utter pithy little platitudes like, “different strokes for different folks” and “what’s good for you may not be good for me.” They’ve utterly lost any cogent notion of morality, so they resort to a complete subjectivism. But no one really believes that deep down. Everyone draws the line somewhere.
And yet you haven't articulated an actual argument for why porn is wrong. I don't know what would compel me to visit a porn shoot, but I wouldn't feel like "an absolute sleeze" unless I were spying. But of course there would be no reason to do that.
Porn being wrong should be self evident. But here we are. Living in an age where we need to present “actual arguments”, and martial together studies by people with degrees against things that everybody knew was wrong for thousands of years purely by common sense.
19:18 "“I don’t mean to be sarcastic, but… If your litmus test for what is healthy, good sexual act is “I’m not raping anybody”, then, bloody hell, you have fallen. And our idea of what man is has fallen soooo woefully short of where we should be.” Well said!
I think Matt has what >90% of “conservatives” are missing, which is the emphasis on a morally strong society. Without it, “limited government” just leads to chaos and despair, good conditions for tyrants to take over.
Limited government isn't a bad idea in itself but it requires strong Christian societies. But these days the term is just synonymous with libertarian, ultra-legalistic approach to morality where consent, personal freedom and property rights are the only sacred things (not to say that these concepts are wrong, of course!). Libertarians don't take into account things that cannot be easily measured like social cohesion or the need to preserve history of your people, not to mention metaphysical things like faith (which is the most important for Christians). Their god is individualism.
It's because people don't know what "limited government" means. It doesn't mean small or weak. It means within the natural limits which includes the execution of moral justice.
@@2righthands816 the idea behind limited government is that the people can govern themselves. Self-government is only possible with strong moral character, on both the personal and societal scale.
As a traditional evangelical Christian, I have always been impressed with how deeply the Catholic church cares about the theology of the body (and how we are to use it). Thank you, Matt, for bringing clarity to the issues of lust and pornography. I now have a better handle on how to approach this topic because of watching your videos recently. Newly subscribed and looking forward to watching more!
@SillyCupcake I don't know what you think about our communities, but women knowing about sex has always been important for Catholic households because you can't avoid what you don't know.
@SillyCupcake It may be true that some Catholics avoid talking about this, and that's part of the work to come; for girls and young women to learn about the beauty and goodness of their sexuality, and the plan God has for all of us
These guys can literally listen to all the health, societal, and relational problems that arise with porn use, and come away thinking “porn’s not bad as long as there’s no trafficking.”
Funny enough the guy who said he stopped watching it and it improved his life.. agreed to everything she said except for the part that this made it bad. I'm not perfect by any means but if stopping something improved my life, I wouldn't think oh this thing is still good.
But there is trafficking. And it's rediculous the mental gymnastics that some people are willing to jump through to justify an industry where SOME participants are doing it of their own "free will" when many others are trafficked, groomed, coerced, etc. Imagine arguing that cigarettes are healthy and smoking should be encouraged just because not everyone who smokes gets lung cancer.
@@harrygarris6921 Porn stars are paid, adult professionals with their own websites and social media accounts. It isn't difficult to find them making appearances in mainstream media, or in interviews. Joanna Angel even stated in one interview that she receives so many applications she doesn't even have time to review them all. The horrifying trafficking incident involving the defunct "girls do porn" website is far from representative.
@@Thagomizer you’re talking about a relatively very small sample of the top 100-200 most successful people in an industry where there are tens of thousands of women. I don’t think I’m the one misrepresenting the reality of the industry here.
Wives must have more sex. THAT will solve a lot of problems. Christian Women in general must stop demanding a whole life of marriage in exchange for sex.
Matt, I'm a fellow Catholic. I have been following your work for a while and I thank you for allowing me the knowledge to fight against sexual sins in my life. I have been free of them ever since I followed your advice. God bless you and your family. ✝️♥️
@@DanteColburnI believe Matt has a free course of videos that are created to help you get free. Can’t remember what they are called but Google that and I bet it’ll come up!!
This entire conversation has further strengthened my conviction that the inclusion of Libertarian memes (ideas) within the Conservative movement has been detrimental to us. Memes such as "if two consenting adults do x why should you care. etc."
@@kamarwashington Eh, they're slightly preferable. Libertarians are the cowards who run away while the enemy forces invade. At least they aren't the invaders, but they definitely aren't helping
@@spyroluver0951 I don't have any problem with reaction videos, but I don't like it when people pay attention to these people. I try very hard to forget that they exist, so i don't appreciate it when I'm reminded that they do.
Watching this as someone that has struggled with a pron addiction(spelled it wrong on purpose) for years now, I kept saying "sounds like me" a few times here. Those reading this, please keep me in your prayers as I try to fight this demonic obsession I have. Thank you and thank you Matt for all the great work you do. I ordered a "Reclaim the month" shirt, can't wait to show it off around town!
Definitely saying a prayer for you! Keep your focus on God. We naturally gravitate toward what we think about, so even if your focus is "Porn is bad, I should avoid porn", you're still giving a lot of your mental time and effort to the negative thing. If you instead focus on how great Jesus is and on seeking to have the mind of Christ and think about the things He does, I think you'll find it much easier to avoid. Also, we tend to act in alignment with what we think we are. If you think being an addict is a deep part of your identity, you will probably continue to act like an addict even though you don't want to be addicted. On the other hand, if you are in Christ and really are a new creation, focus on this new identity in Christ and ask God to help you believe you are what He has already made you to be: one of HIs holy people. If you are a new creation in Christ, your core identity is His own righteousness, not the sins that you have struggled with. There is still temptation sometimes-after all, even Jesus did not get a pass on temptation-but there is power to overcome that temptation instead of being enslaved to it.
Exactly, I can see so much potential. She has often defended Chritians in the past, I feel she has knowledge on Christiananty, but is still a little unsure and maybe scared to share the faith.
Praying for you and your wife! I’m so proud of you representing us as Catholics but like Fr Mike Schmitz I worry for that attacks you will face from the devil because you are ticking him off so much for speaking up for truth. Praying you stay strong, humble, and faithful! ❤
I once heard an audibook on a pornstars experiences (would not recommend now since it's very explicit), but what stayed with me is that she could not admit being raped since she told herself that this is what she agreed to when becoming a pornstar (being used sexually whether she liked it or not), she was told that the best pornstar was a woman who never complained even when in extreme pain and that she was choked to the point of nearly dying all for an "aggressive" porn video. I'm still struggling with lust, but porn is something I left behind. A quote that also inspires me daily is from 'if we were villains': "It was maddening how beautiful she was, but did that make the rest of her any less real?" and from Les miserables from Fantine when she is so desperate she turns to prostitution "don't they know the're making love to one already dead", espcially the latter hits really hard since the song starts playful, but gradually you see the anger and sadness break through, it makes you realise that many women are also likely acting fun in the porn industry but deep down they are broken and in need of true love. May god have mercy on them all and lead them to a healthy and happy life! 🙏
What’s so sad is stuff like this happens to a lot of women even in romantic relationships, it’s not exclusive to pornography, just a patriarchal society
Most people put the focus on protecting women when it comes to porn. It's good that all the terrible things that women go through to produce it are highlighted and remembered. What needs to not be forgotten is how much men are also exploited. Men are the main consumers and porn is so addictive. It drains the porn addict of normal motivation for life and relationships. It also ruins what could have been a healthy relationship between married people.
@@saintejeannedarc9460 For men, I think that has less to do with the industry and more to do with lack of positive male role models. Or a lack of Biblical guidance if you’re a believer
Any opportunity to speak about p○rn is important for you to take Matt. I push your book like crazy. I am highly aware of the damage that p○rn does. We are blessed to have THEOLOGY OF THE BODY. Non-Catholics can really use our help.
Im a fan of Brett but its important to understand that she is not religious at all. The fact that she has arrived at her stance on porn without a christian worldview is admirable but it explains why there are some gaps in her views on porn.
@Kelli Kocha I have heard her say it a couple of times. I don't remember which episodes or timestamps but she has mentioned it. But she also doesn't make a big deal of it l, as if she's hostile to religion. She's definitely not.
I get the idea that she is open to Christianity but still unsure and wary of it, maybe? I'm praying that God opens her eyes to the Truth 😊 He is able!!!
She's basically like I was at a similar age in my early twenties. Not religious, but agnostic though interested in history, art, philosophy of religion. I had similar thoughts, arriving at them from secular or natural reasons. It's possible that she may become religious later, but it takes a faith experience to move someone that is consciously agnostic, no matter how sympathetic or interested they are in an academic way.
Consent based morality is modernist garbage (which American conservatives often still implicitly defend). Adults consenting to an action doesn't necessarily make that action morally licit (ex- 2 twin brothers above the age of 18 both consent to sexual intercourse, this is obviously morally evil, but under the purview of consent based morality there isn't a reason to argue that this evil, as both parties equally consent). This line of thinking embraces the subjectivist view of morality that got us in this mess in the first place.
@SillyCupcake1. you say the world isn't black and white, yet argue that incest should be illegal (I obviously agree) which is a categorical (black and white statement) your logic isn't consistent here. 2. Not everyone who disagrees with you is projecting. Not everyone is a sexual degenerate. I simply used a classical example that is commonly used to dispute the flaws in consent based morality. One can use murder as an example without literally being a murderer. Not everything is a projection all the time, humans are able to use their rational facilities to make arguments.
Okay I will play devil's advocate on this, the separation of church and state ensures that the government ensures the social common good of the people and the church ensures the spiritual common good of the people, so if two twin brothers or twin sisters have sexual relations with each other which they both know is morally bad but they decided to do it anyway I would think they would do it in secret and not tell anybody which they have every right to do as two consenting adults that's why there is a separation of church and state to begin with so the church won't interfere with people's basic freedom's that go against religious legality as long as these freedoms do not interfere with the basic common good of the people that's why people have the right to talk things over with their respective religious director because the state ensures one of the basic human freedoms of the right to practice their religion of choice now a part of that freedom of religion means Traditional Catholics should have the right to voice their opinion against lgbtq and have the right not to participate and things that involve lgbtq which they have the constitutional right to do as long as it doesn't go any farther than that since both parties rights must be respected under the law of the government which ensures the social common good of the people so if traditional Catholics have a problem that goes beyond that they have the right to talk it out with their spiritual director. (I'm a traditional catholic myself but it's in my nature as a rebel to play devil's advocate time from time 😈)
@@odanobunaga7584 you should reconsider your belief in seperation of church and state. It really isn’t consistent with Christian (especially catholic) beliefs.
@@deus_vult_1099 I know it's not that's why I said I will play Devils abvocate, the separation of church and state is Freemasonic not Catholic, but only a Catholic King or Queen can lead a Catholic America but America is a White-Anglo-Saxon-Protestant nation to begin with when it broke away from the King of England what is more interesting is the first people to land on United States was Catholic Spanish from Spain the Catholic history of United States is there but America was going to go that route anyway because Free Masonic America needed to complete manifest destiny, the truth is America the government is not Protestant or Catholic but Free Masonic, and the early turn-of-the-century revolutions that happened in France United States and Venezuela were all Free Masonic, I think Denmark and Iceland still have church and state united under the Lutheran Church maybe more countries do to buy have to do more research, I'm a scholar but don't claim to have all the information to all the answers but it's a interesting conversation for sure.
Great video, Matt. I think the best litmus test to expose pornography as evil is to ask your self whether or not you would be happy if a loved one was in a pornographic video (daughter, son, etc.). Deep down I think we all know its wrong. Something that I try to be conscious of to help resist the desire to look at porn is the simple fact that everyone featured in pornographic content is someone's daughter or son. If we wouldn't want our own loved ones involed in pornograpghy, than we shouldn't want anybody's loved ones in it. How shameful it is to be okay with somebody else's daughter in a pornographic video. Even if a person in porn denies the fact that what they are doing is wrong, they are probably causing much untold pain to their mother, father, children, etc. I think porn has been way more damaging to society than most people realize. It scares the hell out of me when I think of how easy it is for very young people to access extremely vulgar content and how damaging it is to their mind and soul, and how they will potentially bring extremely toxic sexual habits into their marriages, hurting their future spouses and themselves. I truly don't think we've seen the worst of it yet. Lord help us.
Depends on the person. Would I be happy if this person was a maladjusted wreck with addictions, attachments, and other issues? No, and I would be concerned for him or her. Would I be happy if they were an ambitious, talented, studied, and tough-minded person who knew exactly what they were doing and loved it? "Happy" is probably too strong a word, but I would appreciate the fact that they found their niche and trust their judgement. Watching their porn would be weird, though. And "S/he's someone's son/daughter!" is a no sequitur. Do you need to be reminded of this when you go on a date, or are intimate with your spouse? They're an adult, just like you, and should be respected as such.
I think all of the reasons given are correct and obvious BUT I don’t think we should even have serious conversations with someone who asks “what’s really that bad about porn”? They know. Anybody who’s ever watched especially if they “used” it they deep down know it’s awful because they felt it when they did it. We should dive into a conversation with someone who just want to talk about it but they admit it’s wrong. If you’re genuinely asking what’s wrong with it I’d say back to you “you know it’s wrong in your soul so I won’t validate this conversation till you admit that.”
The "consenting adult" argument only works if you are sovereign over your body and your soul. Guess what everyone, you aren't. God is sovereign! You were created. You didn't create yourself, and you do not belong to yourself. This is why self destructive behaviors are wrong. It simply isn't your "right" to do whatever you want with your own body.
Their just too far gone, and these dudes are like probably best-case example of whatever the hell there supposed to be and they are still that weak and far gone it's pathetic.
Keep in mind Brett is 21 and has not reached an age of 'wisdom'. She is a conservative, but she probably has not been exposed to Matt's arguments before, and probably wouldn't have a well reasoned response.
i feel like a lot of her opinions are formed according to her audience's liking. Lot of men there are claiming to be conservative, but are big porn addicts so i think she kinda wants to appeal to them
The consenting adults conversation ONLY takes into consideration the man watching it and the woman creating it. Does the spouse of the addict have enough information to consent?
@@Thagomizer if you’re Catholic, or any Christian really, there are things that are sinful even with full consent of all affected parties. Based on other comments you left I get the impression that you’re coming here looking for opposition (I don’t mean that in a negative way, I do it too). So I should clarify and say that I’m not a Christian, nor do I care if you watch porn
I think a better way to reframe this is "rational consent." A person watching porn in the moment because they have a great physical impulse in conjunction with predatory advertising from the industry is not thinking rational when they choose to watch. Much like an alcoholic who in a straight mind knows alcohol is bad for him but is overcome by great urge in certain circumstances. The libertarians have this ridiculous idea that we should always do what people want in the moment, not what they would want in the long term.
Matt, I love your work, but I think you have some things wrong. First, love is not desiring the best thing for the other. That is an aspect of human love, but it is not love. For there is nothing I can desire for God. Rather love is actively finding joy in the mere existence of the other. A consequence of this is desiring the others good. Second, use is not the opposite of love. For as Wotyla says, anytime a person asks anything from the other, they use them as means to an end. He uses an army commander as an example. A commander uses his soldiers for the purpose of war even to the point of death. Use of a human being the definition of evil comes from Kant, not Wotyla. Wotyla states that it is love which protects the human soul from being corrupted by using a human. I mean, if use was categorically wrong, (haha, Kant joke) God would commit sin continuously as he uses all things for good. This is nonsensical. Rather, when God uses you or me, he does so with love, actively rejoicing in our existence and acting to bring us to share in that joy as well.
I’m literally so happy that this is being brought out of the shadows and being talked about in a frank and loving way that we know this a a problem and that there is hope for putting it to bed
23:55 - 29:00ish is so good by Matt, needs to go viral! Its so frustrating how the vast majority of people today that are the hosts’ and Brett’s age don’t think subordinating their personal dignity to the pleasure of sex in pornography is in itself wrong. They think it’s “empowering” if they’re intentionally doing it, and think it’s not harmful to themselves or morally wrong. Not sure how to make that point. Maybe I need to get your book.
@@brodicox2031I got a notification when it uploaded and watched. RUclips’s time stamps are off it seems. I’m not trying to make a snarky comment, just thinking about how to get across to people as I feel like that’s always the disconnect.
What makes you or Matt the judge of someone's personal dignity? Would you say the same about an actor who stars in bad B movies, a primadonna's housekeeper, a dumpster diver, a panhandler, or a toilet attendant? Why or why not?
@@Thagomizer Yeah I think you're asking a good question, which is what I was wondering about too. But I think it does objecively feel to everyone that porn is undignified. I.e., No one would easily admit they're happy that their daughter does porn, and I think that tells us something. It may have to do with what sex is for - for love with a spouse and potential reproduction. It's inherently for the couple, and not for more than that. And they'd be wrong to make it so. There's an old Norm McDonald joke: how do I know sex is dirty? Because we always close the blinds. Once sex ceases to become servant, it becomes a tyrant (GKC) - we easily see that in society. Cleaning toilets, acting in bad movies, is still dignified work (it's work done for the good of others). Pornography is done for the detriment of the performers and others (even if many mistakenly think it is a good)
@@Thagomizer pornography is harmful and addictive. I have exactly as much respect for pornographers as I do for drug dealers. A toilet scrubber or garbage collector is infinitely more respectable, because they do not profit from other people's addictions.
the moment you say something is wrong because of god you already lost the argument. I'm not saying porn is good or right im just saying your nonexistent god has nothing to do with that fact nor should people care what your religion thinks of some topic, stop acting like everyone shoud follow what your belief system dictates, you follow your faith and let people follow theirs, if you dont like it then that is YOUR problem, you have no right to judge other people and if im not mistaken even your religion states that you shouldnt judge other people
porn isn’t right, and his religion is an extension of his belief system? i don’t see why it would be wrong for him to express himself and his morality in an open and honest way. religion and morality are not so dissimilar. also, i think he’s mostly talking to other christians.
Why people always talk about this as if everybody is an extremist like you? Why? If you can't smoke a cigar without smoking a hundred that's your problem. Don't judge others based on your problem with "cigars".
It's so bad because it is a sin and sin creates chaos and chaos creates destruction - every sin created is one more move closer to destruction (as Jordon Peterson says) acts are not random. But I guess people don't really care that much about sin. ..... but they should care about destruction.
Sin is like smoking; it takes a seemingly long time to see the fallout. It's a 1 minute I'm happily sinning my life away and then you wake up at 60 and your life is in ruins and you're wondering how it happened.
When you said something along the lines of "if your litmus test is that you aren't rap#$ng anyone you have fallen so far" that hit like a ton of bricks. Hope you don't mind me stealing that, Matt. Perfect response to modern sexual behavior.
Since 1984 there have been over 500 American porn actors who have died prematurely all of whom were under age 40. These deaths involved alcohol fueled car crashes, suicide, heart attacks, murder, and drug overdoses. The industry has an psychological effect on those involved. A few people have long careers and can handle it, but those are an exception.
And what about their family life if they had any... Would they advice for their children to watch it? Are they good role models? Is all everlasting vices till they rot. If that's the way they treat themselves how can we expect for them to show sacrifice, compassion and responsibility for anybody?
@@MangyPLit’s meant to be enjoyed between husband and wife but WITH the possibility of bringing new life into the world. No protection. That’s the way God designed it. It strengthens the marriage bond.
@@MangyPL No it’s not. Your theology is screwed up. Have you even read the Bible? Song of Songs? Satan has perverted sex. God wants it to be enjoyed within the confines of Biblical marriage. Sex is a pillar of marriage. If enjoying sex is a sin, tell me why it feels good? It’s a biologically pleasurable experience. It’s in the design. The church makes sex seem like some sort of dirty act, but it really isn’t in the confines of marriage. Proverbs 5:18-20 literally says to enjoy your wife’s breasts 😂. “The apostle Paul taught that a godly marriage should include frequent and satisfying sexual intimacy (1 Corinthians 7:3-5).”
@@MangyPL Proverbs 5:18-20 (literally says to enjoy your wife’s breasts 😂, and to be intoxicated by her love) 1 Corinthians 7:3-5 (Paul writes that married couples shouldn’t deprive themselves from sex (unless agreed for some time), as it strengthens their bond. Songs of Solomon (an entire book in the Bible about why sex is great thing). If sex wasn’t meant to be enjoyed (within the confines of Holy marriage), why the heck does it feel good by biological design? I think your theology is screwed up brother
“Porns good”. “I also quit it and my life is drastically improved”. Call them out on this, if porn is so good or at least “not bad” why did you quit? Why are you embarrassed to tell your grandmother you did it? It’s an inherent evil and children of God are ashamed of it by nature, why is it so hard to admit it’s bad?
When things are illegal, far less people do it. Sure, there will still be people that do it, and there will still be a black market, but many people will choose to obey the law because there are consequences if you do not.
10:42 This reminds me of a quote by Slavoj Zizek (not endorsing his views tho) that was like: Today we want everything in a distilled form, coffee without caffeine, beer without alcohol and what we are calling "sex" is precisely sex without sex
dude... it already bothers me that I find her mildly attractive and I can't un-see that meme where it says she's the female Ben Shapiro... when you speed her up like that... dude.... dude don't speed her up like that now she really does look like Ben. Good points made though nonetheless, I'm still beginning my journey into Catholicism but it's conversations like this which remind me I'm on the right path.
Whenever people say “I don’t believe in xyz, but I don’t believe in telling other people what to do…” they are being selfish. They should charitably help people understand how they are harming themselves.
@@nonpolar786 I think "xyz" isn't meant to be God, but rather a principle, like "I don't believe in the idea humans can change genders". And if one believes that this idea is harming people, then they should try lovingly help others understand why
@@rosedevine440 The problem with a statement like “humans can’t switch genders” is that it’s verifiably false, even if you don’t want to recognize it , trans people have existed, currently exist, and will always exist. I perceived the original comment to be referring to something more opinionated like pornography is bad, which is not a verified claim, in which case there should be no reason to tell any other individual what to do with it
@@nonpolar786 I don't think it's verifiably false, gender is inextricably linked to sex. The term is used to refer to roles or characteristics of women and men, but even when a male has some characteristics commonly associated with females, they are still male. And as to your second point, the claim that pornography is bad for us is verified (I can send you some sources if you'd like). Also, many truths are not "verified" by modern society, so I tend not to use popular consensus as a marker. Instead we should rely on reason, science and intuition. Once the truth is found using these, it is our moral responsibility to uphold it.
@Silly Cupcake! 🧁 Cringe. This is like saying fraud or murder shouldn't be illegal, because it's our duty not to sin. It's not good for society. It would be better if there was no demand for it, but because of our fallen nature, there always will be.
@@Thagomizer The Left has already kicked in this door. Christians just need to call it "deplatforming" and suddenly it's palatable to modern audiences.
This comment is for you Thursday. You are the GOAT! I’m sure you do a lot more than just edit and not sure how big the Pints team is so, at the risk of sounding ignorant, I just have to say… I haven’t watched a Pints vid in awhile and I was blown away with all the little effects, sounds, everything, throughout this one. SO GOOD!! It makes me feel like you are a part of the vid without physically being in the vid. So it’s like a window into getting to know you more which is cool because I know this channel is so much more than Matt/just what we see in the vids. (Matt you’re great too obviously) The editing (ahem, *you*) does a great job to amplify the content instead of interrupt it or distract from it like I’ve seen in other random, otherwise decent quality, vids on my recommended feed. It meshes seamlessly into the video and into Matt’s personality as well which has a compounding effect that makes his content better and amplifies the information he’s sharing. Matt, you found a great employee! Hope to run into you both one day so I can buy y’all a beer (or iced coffee 🧊☕️)!
"it's always wrong to treat someone as a means to an end" is nonsense. just think about it, Matt! it's nonsense! you're obviously using these boys, talking to this girl, as a means to your end of offering a commentary expressing your views on p0rn. and there's nothing wrong with that!
I love how non-milquetoast this is. You refused to just accept porn as being okay because everyone consented, which is often treated as the only virtue and only requirement. And I love the explanations of love and humanity. Stellar video
I have an idea? How about we hold women who do porn ACCOUNTABLE for being the sexual predators they are! That way young women think twice before consenting to do porn because the permanent social consequences outweigh the temporary monetary gain. Also Brett’s willingness to concede on the slightest push-back is why women don’t belong anywhere near politics OR the pulpit.
......... next you'll be telling us women don't belong in a voting booth or allowed to open their own bank account or to be able to own land or property apart from their husband/father/male guardian....
@@Jack-hd1zn Considering the number one issue women vote on is their “right” to kill babies yes, absolutely! But I’ll take accountability for being a sexual predator first.
@Murphy’s Muskets Your logic would only make sense if the vast majority of women voters supported pro-choice candidates and that's not the case, not even in deep blue elections. Women don't vote specifically to protect their "right" to choose, they vote because they are rightly considered a part of the electorate and deserve the privilege to cast their vote to elect officials who will represent their own interests in government.
@@Jack-hd1zn As a Catholic you should know that “rights” come with “duties”. What duties do modern women have? You realize there’s “no fault” divorce right? What social consequences do women bare for infanticide? Or for exposing our young impressionable sons to pornography? Using the language of “choice” means you’ve fully adopted progressive dialect framework, so what are you even arguing?
@@murphysmuskets first, no taxation without representation. Second, I’ve been active in the pro life movement my entire teen/adult life. Third, Roe V Wade was passed by a SCOTUS full of men 🤨
Thanks for your work Matt, because unfortunately it's physically impossible for me to comment on anything related to the p*rn industry without fed-posting
Matt, I'd love to see you challenge Brett and these guys to look into the research that has been done on porn. Just a few studies would probably be enough to change their vague position of "I feel like people can do what they want" into "sweet beans, porn is destroying our entire society, ban it all." Great video though, as always!
I have literally just finished watching the Iced Coffee Hour with Brett Cooper and when it came to the porn section, I had to write a lengthy comment on what they were saying! The reasoning behind what the men were saying absolutely baffled me and boiled a bit of my blood. I even went so far as to mention Matt Fradd, his books and talks as a resource for anyone struggling. While watching the original video, I exclaimed in disagreement, but I don't imagine I will be doing that with this video. I cannot wait to hear what he has to say on what Brett and the two guys said.
I'll just say the Catholic sexual ethic is so concise and clear and apartment it was what converted me. We could all better our lives and society is we only adhered to this one tenant of catholicism completely. I think it's the most foundational aspect of how you view morality, self worth, and love of others. God bless your ministry Matt
Referring specifically to your assertion that porn is inherently wrong (like molestation) as opposed to gambling: Can you provide a reason for a non-believer (e.g. outside the Bible) that porn is wrong?
@@kenofken9458 it commodifies the human sexuality in a way that is demeaning to the person themselves. it subverts respect and intimacy that is (should be in even the secular ethical moral worldview) required for sexual acts with a loving partner and places one’s own arousal or pleasure above the respect of the other person. humans are never owed another’s sexuality.
normally, in the free market, products will continually improve the effect the consumer is trying to achieve (think vacuums turning electrical so you can clean better) however, with porn, (and it’s addictive nature) the way that producers have to fulfill the constant need for a “greater product” (the effect is arousal) they’ll constantly be pushing sexual limits. testing the waters of what’s just socially acceptable enough to get someone off without overriding their arousal with disgust. (this is why we now think bdsm, choking, and all other degrading (frequently misogynistic) forms of “sex” aren’t so strange even though just 50 years ago you’d be a depraved lunatic to even think about such a thing) basically, porn is literally incentivizing producers to slowly create fantasy rapists, misogynists, and worse.
Pray: We, the people of our Fther, Son, and Holy Spirit, reclaim the month of June and our Lord's rainbow, and purge these two of the vile, satanic, depravity! To hell to those who abide this evil/fornication
Keep in mind that just because Brett is on DW, that doesn’t assume she is a Christian. In fact I don’t think she professes to be one. I do think she is a moral thinker and her influence tends to lean conservative.
I understand that many parents find it easier to install software on their children's devices, but wouldn't TALKING TO THEM and EXPLAINING be the better way? I am in my mid-40s, but I remember when I was like 12, my mom bought my sister and me a German youth magazine, Bravo, which she didn't know, but which was actually very popular in German speaking countries at the time because there was a page with supposedly authentic letters from teenagers about sex (and a lot more content as well that promoted sex for teenagers). A few months later, my mom looked into it, found something in the magazine that contained some question about some perverse practice and was shocked. She came to us and told us: 'You're forbidden to read this magazine, it's stupid!' But unfortunately, she didn't tell us at all why... So we of course went on to buy the magazine in secret, which seriously influenced our expectations of relationships (the magazine regularly suggested that you're not normal if you have never kissed at 13 and are still a virgin at 16). If I think back, I guess a good, open discussion with my mom about what the magazine contained and why it was 'stupid', would have been very helpful and would have probably kept us from reading it anymore. So, parents, please talk about your values to your children and teenagers! Please!
Isn’t unfettered/Forced immigration/integration. (FORCED, as in NOT voted For by a host nation of people of a particular race,) ISN’T that “Racist”? B/c All I hear is it’s only racist one-way, when euro/whites not wanting diversity to move into their communities. Serious question.
The Daily Wire lacks the moral foundation that it takes to maintain a consistent conservative worldview. They start with a modern political conservatism as their foundation rather than building a robust political conservatism from the Word of God. I appreciate much of what they do, but I lament their often inability to hold a standard based upon an unapologetic and unchanging morality (namely, God's Word). I say this as a Reformed Protestant. Good video and good reaction, Matt.
@@OfficialTonyD agreed. Andrew klavan doesn't want to confront his son of his homosexual -relationship- sining evil life. So yeah Matt Walsh and Michael Knowles do I know they're the only Christians on that podcast. Jordan Petersons doesn't outright condemn pornography which is very liberal of him although he does say it's bad but not evil and objectively, so I admire those two more than the rest.
Matt, thank you for always standing on the side of truth and the standard that we are called by Christ to live by. This video was amazing, as we must be steadfast in our condemnation of this great evil that has plagued our society and that has poisoned the great good that is our sexuality given to us by almighty God. God bless!!!
But viewing if something awful is sin, then reading the Bible is a sin, since there grusome events that takes place, tourtue, murder, stealing, revenge, heresey.
Thank you Matt for having the courage to call out evil and having the keen ability to cut through the lie that no one has the right to speak out about someone else doing an objectively evil action as long as they “consented.”
after hearing several daily wire thingies that seem to soft-support porn...phoc it. I hate porn and and there's no circumstance under which it is not wicked. DW finally convinced me. Weirdly ironic.
Adultery kills marriage, does it not? Bad analogy There is no pure or good use of porn. Guns can be defended as having a good and right place in society.
that might be true if marriage wasn’t a monogamous commitment to another person, and infidelity is intrinsic to porn. guns are not inherently murder weapons.
As an ex porn addict, who watched regularly for more than 10 hours a day before I was even in highschool, I can personally attest to how bad this thing can go. I can't even sum it up in a single comment, but even 4 months completely removed from pornography, and 5 years of fighting to stop, I still can see how my brain is severely affected by pornography, and how it even affects my marriage now. Research has shown that photo based pornography (not videos) take 6 months of completely quitting for the brain to remap to a normal state, for video pornography they saw it taking upwards of a year and a half to recover, although they didn't know the upper limit of how long it could take to recover from video pornography. Im now 4 months out, and I still feel the daily effects. According to the study I read, someone who indulged in photographic based porn only would already have reverted completely on a conscious level by 3 months, with 6 months for a complete neurological recovery. At 4 months I feel very little difference from day 1, except for the fact that I'm not constantly itching to get on one of those sites, but how it affects my marriage, my view of women, my dopamine response, etc. I can confidently say I think it will be at least another year before im fully recovered, possibly more.
Do you think it is possible that Dennis P is defending it because his father did it and if Dennis admits it is wrong then would be admitting his dad was wrong to do it? And in turn his mother for "allowing" her husband to do it?
My wife and I both watched all of Matt and Dennis' conversation and we both came to that same conclusion. He's justifying the sins of his father because he can't allow that image to be tarnished in his mind.
It seems likely. Dennis is opposed to modern pornography, but he thinks the kind of pornography his parents used is okay... Likely because he doesn't want to view his parents as having had any immoral habits.
I also came to that conclusion. His very high opinion and respect of his father would be shattered and that is a terrifying thing to come to terms with esp when you don't have the Holy Trinity to hold you in your pain. Not only did his father choose the wrong thing but his mom was also an enabler, it's sad really.
You could argue that the Puritan response that nudity is wrong over the Catholic view that only porn is wrong. Victoria Secrets is commonly used as a transition to porn. Candace Owen's husband won't use social media. The state of Texas went after a store because it a statue of Micalagelo's David under Texas' porn laws because nudity is nudity. While I am an artist so I personally don't personally don't hate nudity, people who do make that view will never be addicted.
You might be morally right in that watching porn is harmful, but it's unrealistic to assume that a sizeable portion of young men are capable of stopping. You can't expect young men to suddenly be like you know, you're right, I'll just stop watching porn.
I stoped watching porn and masturbating about nine years ago when my girlfriend who is now my wife and mother of our child found an internet search for porn on my computer and confronted me about it. The further you get away from porn and masturbation the more you realize how degrading, unmanly, and loser-y it is.
I call BS on the "porn actresses are sometimes sex slaves". Maybe if you're talking about kiddie porn or drugged out women, but in high scale productions where the actors are playing characters ( say superheroines like Wonder Woman, Supergirl and Batgirl, who are THE top sellers), there's simply no way these are mot real actors (most times you even get BTS footage of the actors so you can verify it's all acted and faked, especially the beatdowns). Pick your porn like you pick your food. Th UN "peacekeeping" missions fuel sex trafficking far more than porn ever will...
Would you really know the difference? And even if you did, would it matter? They are still degrading themselves, and the person viewing that is still participating in that.
@@laststand6420 Uh yeah it definitely matters (I ain't gonna go 8mm anytime soon). And as far as voluntary self degradation goes, I can say the same for every first round talent show contestant (American Idol). Many of these women work out a lot, eat very little, and shave a lot to get the opportunity to degrade themselves...
@@el_killorcure It's still wrong... Made even worse by the fact that some of them are undoubtedly forced to do whatever degrading act they are a part of.
@@laststand6420 Well there's wrong (Peter mutilating a guard and denying Jesus, Paul persecuting Christians) and then there's real wrong (stumbling block for little ones, sinning against the Holy Spirit)...
14:26 How did that study control for the relationship between the occurrences of depression with porn? It sounds like a case of correlation/causation confusion. Did the porn cause them to be depressed or were they already depressed and the porn was being used to alleviate it? Maybe they were already depressed due to a lack of finding a woman. I really hope in your book you discuss the methodology of the study. As for the grades of the boys sure I believe that but any kind of addiction will do that. Addiction to video games or television will do that too. As for the porn/shrinking brain claim the research that really got this started was a German study and even they didn’t make definitive conclusions. They wrote that “one may be tempted…” to make that assessment. In an interview one of the authors said “It's not clear ... whether watching porn leads to brain changes or whether people born with certain brain types watch more porn,”. It was in The Daily Telegraph. As a rule of thumb studies are not as definitive in their conclusions as we think they are. The findings were suggestive of such conclusions not determinative. 16:10 sure I agree but if those passions include a strong appetite that can’t be satisfied the way we do for food it’s very hard and frustrating for men. It’s easy for you from the comfort of one who has been fortunate enough to have found a wife to make love to speak of “you must control the lower appetite by the higher ones” as if that’s all there is. The appetite for sex is strong and a natural one and what makes this especially hard is that it’s not one you can just open the pantry and make it go away. It’s one men go to porn not so much because they want an alternative to reality but because their reality hasn’t panned out for them. 21:06 Agreed, less bad doesn’t necessarily mean it’s better than the more of the same bad. However the calculus can be different. Maybe it’s the less bad so as to avoid greater problems. Maybe we choose the less bad not because we think it’s ok to do but it may prevent other consequences. Let me use the example of the late Pope Benedict XVI. He said that gay men who engage in sexual activity should use condoms. Was he promoting gay sex? No of course not. What he was doing was recognizing that not everyone is capable of living the ideal holy life immediately and that until sometimes the lesser bad must be engaged to prevent greater harm. By engaging in “safe gay sex” the greater harm prevented is the spread of diseases among the gay population. Maybe lesser graphic forms of porn, ones that don’t depict the sexual activity of the more sluttier and trash, can be a lesser bad that prevents men from the built up pressure of the heat of libido they could possibly satisfy in more horrible ways in society. Sometimes we have to balance many consequences some that are immediately necessarily to control and prevent while striving to the ideal life. So you decide to do a 180 ok then in the meantime while you’re making that long hard journey a man’s appetite is still there.
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Why do you as a Catholic use a website founded by a homosexual man depriving a child of a mother and leading it to sin, and an Israeli national who either doesn’t believe Jesus existed or that Jesus is in hell? (Dave Rubin and Assaf Lev)
can we please have the studies you referd to. i would love to read them fully myself
The interesting psychology is the less sex you have the first month
I mean no sex just talk and romantic gestures
the more you are attracted to the person
because you don't see him just like an object
you see him as a human being with wisdom, emotions, feelings, humor, nice hobbies
It is an interesting observation that if you wait to have sex, your point of view about the guy is much richer,
your love and attraction to him starts to be richer
and if you have the first sex after 2 or 3 months, it can be just plus
because the richer the point of view about him
his lifestyle, his values, his hobbies, music, science, knowledge
the richer experience can be sexually and romantically....after a few months of dating.
I am just guessing. I am not an expert.
But experts say
the same way you treat your sex life,
the same way you treat other areas of your life.
It's like you go to Paris, you don't want to see all the attractions and the Eiffel Tower on the first day.
You just want to get some coffee in a nice restaurant and introduce yourself to the city.
After a few days, you visit the attractions to absorb its beauty and interesting stuff about the city.
We live in a world of easily selling the product, just by clicking on the button
as television likes to promote this mindset
So it's obvious that this mindset is adopted also in the romantic areas, but it doesn't work that way.
People should be more natural.
so you are investing your attention into knowing him, even knowing his flaws that are meaningless
because you are interested in him as human, it's called imperfect perfection.
You see a tree that has an imperfect shape, or size but the tree is imperfectly perfect because of its natural beauty.
Nature is imperfect, and trees are imperfect, therefore they are imperfectly perfect in their beauty.
Therefore humans also should not try to look perfect but natural.
Porn Industry is evil but trying to swallow a whole pineapple is not going to happen. You need to study how the Socialist and Marxist take over the western culture because your current position is exactly how the west lost to Socialism and Marxism.
I would urge you to listen to RIchard Bennett he was a catholic priest and a very lovely man! He passed away!
You can tell Matt Walsh and Michael Knowles are the only Catholics at the Daily Wire, considering they're the only ones taking any kind of hard stance on porn and its ilk there.
Shapiro takes a hard stand against porn. He wrote a whole book about it.
So does Candace Owens
@@abigailb7382 - Her husband is Catholic and she’s already said that it is the man’s responsibility to lead his family in faith. She has some questions, but based on those sorts of comments by her I think that she will become Catholic in a year or two. I also would not be at all surprised if Brett becomes Catholic. When Matt visited the Daily Wire several of them attended TLM (Traditional Latin Mass) with several of them - I’m assuming Matt Fradd, Michael, Matt W. and perhaps Candace and her husband. It would be wonderful if both DW women converted - for their sakes as well as so many others.
Brett Cooper is VERY young. When I was her age, I had similar ideas about consenting adults and was shy about telling people they were wrong in their personal sex lives. Like most young people, I was more libertarian, and had a naive point of view about "adult" behaviors. Honestly, she's much more reasonable than most people her age, and as she gains wisdom, she will probably come to understand why there is no such thing as healthy and happy fornicators.
They also aren’t part of Brett Cooper’s generation. Believe me as someone who is part of that generation, it’s shocking enough to find someone with Brett’s views expressed in this video. Our generation has been exposed to this evil since we were essentially children. We’ve been told it’s normal and healthy by almost every source of mainstream media we’ve been force fed, by the teachers in our schools, and by our peers. Parents often don’t get just how bad things are because they were never exposed to free internet porn, where you can see literally whatever you want at any second.
So be encouraging of the young adults today who are waking up to the evil that is porn. Be supportive of them, even if they don’t perfectly understand the full extent of how evil it is. Offer a prayer to St. Augustine that this generation can break free of the sexual deviancy that’s been thrust upon it.
Matt said: ""You don't have to concede the argument just because you don't know how to defend your position." This is the most profound thing I have heard in a long while. It gave me pause. I always feel like I lose if I get caught up in an opponent's point. Thank you for giving me the confidence to say "I disagree, but I can't articulate it right now. let me get back to you later."
Shouldn't you reexamine your position if you have no good reason to hold it?
@@jamesk3612 yes, but not knowing how to defend your position on the spot is not the same as not having a good reason to hold onto it at all.
@@joshuadunham3018 if you can't define how you came to hold your positions or beliefs then you should reexamine them. What you're talking about is post hoc reasoning. It's working backwards from your conclusion.
@@jamesk3612 You seem to be arguing against some other idea besides the one the original commenter espoused, and which I thought you understood.
No one said anything about not being able to define how they came to hold their positions or beliefs in the first place. This discussion is about someone presenting a new argument you haven't thought of.
I'm sure if I went back in time to a hundred years ago, I could probably make some interesting, even convincing, arguments for a flat earth to someone without a college education from the 1920s. They could say, "Well, I don't know how to defend my position based on the knowledge I have now, so I guess I'd better abandon what I believe" and just change their entire view of the world based on what I said.
Or, they could they take the time to do research beyond what they were taught in middle school and get back to me.
The latter is what I assume Matt (and the commenter) were recommending.
@@joshuadunham3018 do you have discord? I'd be down to have a conversation about it. My position is that, yes, you should abandon your beliefs if you can't defend them. The null position is a lack of belief in something, if you are making a positive claim then you should have reasons (i.e. be able to defend) why you believe that thing.
Get Brett on the show so Thursday can make his move
Dooo iiit! Dooo it nooow!!!
Yuhhhhh
Amen brother.
Omg, poor Thursday! 🤦♀️🤣🤣
No pressure! Right, boys? 😂👍
No no no please stahp with the cringe 😬
Or continue 🤷
“A hypocrite is not somebody who sometimes fails to live up to their standards”
This one hit me in the best way possible. Thanks for the quote Matt 👍
35:34 for the timestamp :)
@@fallingcrane1986 I figured someone would take care of that for me 😉 Thanks for that!
Be careful not to tell yourself that when you open an incognito window
35:35 - A hypocrite defined
If you're not a hypocrite, your standards are too low.
When I was stationed in South Korea, pornography was banned. Sure, there were creative ways around it, American military personnel were often experts at accessing it. But, just the act of banning major sites and making it difficult to access made for a much more normal and sane society. The US should absolutely ban it. It’s not a free speech issue, as you don’t have a right to have sex in a public place. Now, you could require people to make accounts to access private websites, but even then pornography is not a free speech issue because 49 States ban prostitution, and pornography is a form of selling your body or that of another person or persons. We must push for an absolute ban on porn, with serious consequences. It might not be politically tenable now, but as society falls apart it turns to the Catholic way when things are dire. We know for a fact things will only get more dire, this is not sustainable.
More importantly, production of porn is illegal in South Korea. It's really a no-brainer for a state that cares about its people to protect young women from this sort of predation.
The porn firewall is a good thing. It's really easy to get around, but that extra barrier is nice. It stops kids from wandering into the stuff. I used to live in SK, and at the time I had no moral qualms about porn. I don't think the extra step of opening a VPN ever discouraged me from porn use. But it can't hurt.
In Mexico prostitution is supposedly illegal, but there are many businesses that front as spas or stylists but are actually brothels. But, you know, the "humane" type, the "fancy" types, the "nice massages with happy endings". Everybody knows, too. It's wild.
@@blankmantm2501 that is true of some areas of South Korea and here in California where I live too. Seems like the authorities aren’t doing their due diligence sometimes. There’s a lot of human trafficking happening in places like that.
Yet, Koreans problems with marriage and fidelity didn't improve.
I remember when we landed in South Korea, we were instantly told of using a VPN and it saved our lives 😂
As an evangelical, this is the best thing I have ever watched Matt Fradd post! I love watching you preach Matt! I love how your Catholic roots establish your Christian worldview, and how you articulate it so well in response to something going on in our broken world. Keep it up brother.
I am lutheran, but as Matt says: "When theres a maniac at the door, feuding brothers become friends"
@@JezielProdigalSon Calvin Robinson said this.
@@fedyno4reviews Right, sorry.
Thanks for correcting me.
@@fedyno4reviewsno, it was Peter Kreeft who said it first.
@@stevenyoung3752 Well whoever said it, is a smart dude.
I love that Matt is fighting to bring up society's standards. It's such a necessary fight. I think the problem here is that conservatism is edging away from religion and looking at things too legalistically (almost like the Pharisees - just saying) instead of rooting one's view of the world through the eyes of Christ and living to join Him in heaven one day. Conservatism is never gonna fix these problems because it worships the founding fathers instead of the Father. I say this as a conservative, but I'll always be Catholic first and foremost.
These conservatives aren’t even worshiping the founding fathers, they’re worshiping warped, half-formed pictures of them. If you resurrected any of them and said, for instance, that you permitted pornography and banned prayer in schools based off the first amendment, they would be shocked and appalled, might even challenge you to a duel. None of them indicated they saw any conflict between the first amendment and blasphemy laws, which predated the revolution and continued to be passed over a century after the revolution. John Adams said, “Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious People. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.” James Madison wrote that our Constitution requires “sufficient virtue among men for self-government,” otherwise, “nothing less than the chains of despotism can restrain them from destroying and devouring one another.” Most conservatives can’t handle that, can’t accept that according to the founders themselves, this libertarian streak is incompatible with the structure of our country.
@@meglukes So glad to see somebody else who actually knows and understands what our founders truly said and meant. I point this out all the time.
@Megan okay, I see what you're saying, and I agree. The conservatism a lot of conservatives are subscribed to isn't even to the standards of the founding fathers they claim to follow. I can definitely see that in how we claim to be conserving freedom but have caved to certain moral and spiritual things because "it'sa free country" due to the lost logic that society should be held to a moral standard that says no to people doing whatever they want. You're right - people really don't understand what kind of country the founding fathers envisioned and how that deviates from this radical "freedom" that even conservatives push which may have dug us into the moral hole we are in today. Excuse my symbolism of the worship of the founding fathers, then. They're worshipping a false freedom that is blinding them from the further destruction they are causing by not barring societal behavior that is immoral.
Through the neo liberal framework rather then a Christian Framework*
Secular conservativism was never going to work, because without its objective moral base it turns into a "do whatever ya wanna do" libertarian attitude. But it can also lead to worship of the state or certain traditions. Where I live is said to be a very conservative country, though for many people conservativism means the worship of hazy, unscientific pagan alleged-traditions of our nation mixed in with some elements of Catholicism. I don't believe any type of -ism is good in itself if it lacks the fundamental teachings of the Bible.
I am a strong catholic and I’ve been struggling since a very young age. 22 now. Feels like I’m in a jail cell sometimes trapped by my desires. Still fighting it everyday. Have not made it past 3 weeks without doing it. Pray for me everyone please.
It may be because those are natural desires and the unnatural repression of every desire may not be healthy
@@bsauce__23bandzz88 I did and it didn’t help, it only made it worse
Southern baptist here😅 I’ll pray for you.. you shouldn’t have to go to a priest to be forgiven bud.. come to a southern church sometime 😅
Prayers for you David. You CAN stop. You have to choose it. Don’t make yourself a helpless victim.
Check out in this channel other talks on porn and also the resources they share for it...Matt has struggled too even after being married ( pretty sure that's his testimony) it's is NOT irredeemable YOU ARE LOVED, I've struggled as well , definitely try to talk to one person about it. Even just over the phone, or at least start with God, be brutality honest with God in prayer , say it outloud or write down ALL your thoughts about what you feel / think about sex and why you are struggling...just write ANYTHING you feel and LET IT OUT , honestly is the first step....I had to let my feelings out to God like " why can't I have this. It's so good!" Etc... from someone who is still tempted myself follow HOW - be Honest, then can you be Open to change? You will find yourself naturally open over time from being honest, then Willingness to follow God's true healthy design for s*x , God doesn't want obedience that is solely based of fear, He wants to love you into the the truth , if you fill yourself up with truth about God's design for s*x the temptation to use it will slowly lessen ♡
I am so sick of hearing about "consent" being the determining factor of whether something is morally acceptable or not. Most people would feel like an absolute sleeze and would be ashamed of themselves if they were actually in the room where the porn they were watching was actually happening. It wouldn't matter if the people engaged in the sex acts were consenting, most people would feel dirty. Porn is clearly wrong in all circumstances.
Well, we live in an age when most think it is our desire that makes something good, not the thing itself. So they utter pithy little platitudes like, “different strokes for different folks” and “what’s good for you may not be good for me.” They’ve utterly lost any cogent notion of morality, so they resort to a complete subjectivism. But no one really believes that deep down. Everyone draws the line somewhere.
Because too many people think of human beings as perfectly rational beings, always looking out for their best interests, which is just incorrect
And yet you haven't articulated an actual argument for why porn is wrong. I don't know what would compel me to visit a porn shoot, but I wouldn't feel like "an absolute sleeze" unless I were spying. But of course there would be no reason to do that.
Porn being wrong should be self evident. But here we are. Living in an age where we need to present “actual arguments”, and martial together studies by people with degrees against things that everybody knew was wrong for thousands of years purely by common sense.
Libertarian talking points took over the right, and the left was just content with it, while knowing they'd never accept in economically.
19:18 "“I don’t mean to be sarcastic, but… If your litmus test for what is healthy, good sexual act is “I’m not raping anybody”, then, bloody hell, you have fallen. And our idea of what man is has fallen soooo woefully short of where we should be.” Well said!
I think Matt has what >90% of “conservatives” are missing, which is the emphasis on a morally strong society. Without it, “limited government” just leads to chaos and despair, good conditions for tyrants to take over.
I think most conservatives recognize healthy morality is the foundation of a strong society.
Limited government isn't a bad idea in itself but it requires strong Christian societies. But these days the term is just synonymous with libertarian, ultra-legalistic approach to morality where consent, personal freedom and property rights are the only sacred things (not to say that these concepts are wrong, of course!). Libertarians don't take into account things that cannot be easily measured like social cohesion or the need to preserve history of your people, not to mention metaphysical things like faith (which is the most important for Christians). Their god is individualism.
but muh taxes
It's because people don't know what "limited government" means. It doesn't mean small or weak. It means within the natural limits which includes the execution of moral justice.
@@2righthands816 the idea behind limited government is that the people can govern themselves. Self-government is only possible with strong moral character, on both the personal and societal scale.
As a traditional evangelical Christian, I have always been impressed with how deeply the Catholic church cares about the theology of the body (and how we are to use it). Thank you, Matt, for bringing clarity to the issues of lust and pornography. I now have a better handle on how to approach this topic because of watching your videos recently. Newly subscribed and looking forward to watching more!
Theology of the body was my sex education (my parents took me out of sex ed classes at high school). It is such a rich and beautiful treasure
@Silly Cupcake! 🧁 What are you on about?
@SillyCupcake I don't know what you think about our communities, but women knowing about sex has always been important for Catholic households because you can't avoid what you don't know.
Catholic priests can't resist cigars, you think any of them can resist sex?
@SillyCupcake It may be true that some Catholics avoid talking about this, and that's part of the work to come; for girls and young women to learn about the beauty and goodness of their sexuality, and the plan God has for all of us
These guys can literally listen to all the health, societal, and relational problems that arise with porn use, and come away thinking “porn’s not bad as long as there’s no trafficking.”
Funny enough the guy who said he stopped watching it and it improved his life.. agreed to everything she said except for the part that this made it bad. I'm not perfect by any means but if stopping something improved my life, I wouldn't think oh this thing is still good.
But there is trafficking. And it's rediculous the mental gymnastics that some people are willing to jump through to justify an industry where SOME participants are doing it of their own "free will" when many others are trafficked, groomed, coerced, etc. Imagine arguing that cigarettes are healthy and smoking should be encouraged just because not everyone who smokes gets lung cancer.
@@harrygarris6921 Porn stars are paid, adult professionals with their own websites and social media accounts. It isn't difficult to find them making appearances in mainstream media, or in interviews. Joanna Angel even stated in one interview that she receives so many applications she doesn't even have time to review them all. The horrifying trafficking incident involving the defunct "girls do porn" website is far from representative.
@@Thagomizer you’re talking about a relatively very small sample of the top 100-200 most successful people in an industry where there are tens of thousands of women. I don’t think I’m the one misrepresenting the reality of the industry here.
Wives must have more sex. THAT will solve a lot of problems.
Christian Women in general must stop demanding a whole life of marriage in exchange for sex.
Matt, I'm a fellow Catholic. I have been following your work for a while and I thank you for allowing me the knowledge to fight against sexual sins in my life. I have been free of them ever since I followed your advice. God bless you and your family. ✝️♥️
Could you please point out to which videos helped you with that. Many people I know, me included, still struggle with that particular temptation.
@@DanteColburnI believe Matt has a free course of videos that are created to help you get free. Can’t remember what they are called but Google that and I bet it’ll come up!!
This entire conversation has further strengthened my conviction that the inclusion of Libertarian memes (ideas) within the Conservative movement has been detrimental to us. Memes such as "if two consenting adults do x why should you care. etc."
Yup. Libertarianism is no better than leftism imo
@@kamarwashington Eh, they're slightly preferable. Libertarians are the cowards who run away while the enemy forces invade. At least they aren't the invaders, but they definitely aren't helping
libertarianism? More like libertinism.
Yes! People should do what I want them to 🙌
@@nonpolar786 You want people to do what you want them to as well. That’s not inherently wrong
Pretty soon this show is just going to be "Matt Fradd reacts to Ben Shapiro employees' banal opinions about porn"
*With Aquinas
I see it as him trying to get more exposure. Talking about how bad porn is needed.
@@spyroluver0951 I don't have any problem with reaction videos, but I don't like it when people pay attention to these people. I try very hard to forget that they exist, so i don't appreciate it when I'm reminded that they do.
@@josephbrandenburg4373 - There there
@@josephbrandenburg4373 who?
Watching this as someone that has struggled with a pron addiction(spelled it wrong on purpose) for years now, I kept saying "sounds like me" a few times here.
Those reading this, please keep me in your prayers as I try to fight this demonic obsession I have. Thank you and thank you Matt for all the great work you do. I ordered a "Reclaim the month" shirt, can't wait to show it off around town!
Definitely saying a prayer for you!
Keep your focus on God. We naturally gravitate toward what we think about, so even if your focus is "Porn is bad, I should avoid porn", you're still giving a lot of your mental time and effort to the negative thing. If you instead focus on how great Jesus is and on seeking to have the mind of Christ and think about the things He does, I think you'll find it much easier to avoid.
Also, we tend to act in alignment with what we think we are. If you think being an addict is a deep part of your identity, you will probably continue to act like an addict even though you don't want to be addicted. On the other hand, if you are in Christ and really are a new creation, focus on this new identity in Christ and ask God to help you believe you are what He has already made you to be: one of HIs holy people. If you are a new creation in Christ, your core identity is His own righteousness, not the sins that you have struggled with. There is still temptation sometimes-after all, even Jesus did not get a pass on temptation-but there is power to overcome that temptation instead of being enslaved to it.
Said a prayer for you. I know it is hard to beat this addiction. God is able! 🙌🏼Thanks for your honesty ♥️
@@joshuadunham3018
Thank you! I really appreciate the advice, I take that to heart ❤️
@@latenightladybug4505
Thank you so much! Much love, God is good, all the time ❤️
Prayers for you! Don’t fight it alone. God is with you 🙏
She was pretty based honestly. All she needs is Christ as her strong foundation and she'll be unstoppable
Exactly, I can see so much potential. She has often defended Chritians in the past, I feel she has knowledge on Christiananty, but is still a little unsure and maybe scared to share the faith.
Praying for you and your wife! I’m so proud of you representing us as Catholics but like Fr Mike Schmitz I worry for that attacks you will face from the devil because you are ticking him off so much for speaking up for truth. Praying you stay strong, humble, and faithful! ❤
I once heard an audibook on a pornstars experiences (would not recommend now since it's very explicit), but what stayed with me is that she could not admit being raped since she told herself that this is what she agreed to when becoming a pornstar (being used sexually whether she liked it or not), she was told that the best pornstar was a woman who never complained even when in extreme pain and that she was choked to the point of nearly dying all for an "aggressive" porn video. I'm still struggling with lust, but porn is something I left behind. A quote that also inspires me daily is from 'if we were villains': "It was maddening how beautiful she was, but did that make the rest of her any less real?" and from Les miserables from Fantine when she is so desperate she turns to prostitution "don't they know the're making love to one already dead", espcially the latter hits really hard since the song starts playful, but gradually you see the anger and sadness break through, it makes you realise that many women are also likely acting fun in the porn industry but deep down they are broken and in need of true love. May god have mercy on them all and lead them to a healthy and happy life! 🙏
What’s so sad is stuff like this happens to a lot of women even in romantic relationships, it’s not exclusive to pornography, just a patriarchal society
@@nonpolar786What dies patriarchy have to do with anything? Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob have nothing to do with the owners of P0rn Hub.
Most people put the focus on protecting women when it comes to porn. It's good that all the terrible things that women go through to produce it are highlighted and remembered. What needs to not be forgotten is how much men are also exploited. Men are the main consumers and porn is so addictive. It drains the porn addict of normal motivation for life and relationships. It also ruins what could have been a healthy relationship between married people.
@@saintejeannedarc9460 For men, I think that has less to do with the industry and more to do with lack of positive male role models. Or a lack of Biblical guidance if you’re a believer
Any opportunity to speak about p○rn is important for you to take Matt.
I push your book like crazy.
I am highly aware of the damage that p○rn does. We are blessed to have THEOLOGY OF THE BODY.
Non-Catholics can really use our help.
Im a fan of Brett but its important to understand that she is not religious at all. The fact that she has arrived at her stance on porn without a christian worldview is admirable but it explains why there are some gaps in her views on porn.
When did she say she wasn’t religious?
@Kelli Kocha I have heard her say it a couple of times. I don't remember which episodes or timestamps but she has mentioned it. But she also doesn't make a big deal of it l, as if she's hostile to religion. She's definitely not.
I get the idea that she is open to Christianity but still unsure and wary of it, maybe? I'm praying that God opens her eyes to the Truth 😊 He is able!!!
@@latenightladybug4505 Same!
She's basically like I was at a similar age in my early twenties. Not religious, but agnostic though interested in history, art, philosophy of religion. I had similar thoughts, arriving at them from secular or natural reasons. It's possible that she may become religious later, but it takes a faith experience to move someone that is consciously agnostic, no matter how sympathetic or interested they are in an academic way.
Consent based morality is modernist garbage (which American conservatives often still implicitly defend). Adults consenting to an action doesn't necessarily make that action morally licit (ex- 2 twin brothers above the age of 18 both consent to sexual intercourse, this is obviously morally evil, but under the purview of consent based morality there isn't a reason to argue that this evil, as both parties equally consent). This line of thinking embraces the subjectivist view of morality that got us in this mess in the first place.
Yes, this is exactly it 🙌 I've never heard the term "consent based morality", but it's on point. The lowest form of fake morality
@SillyCupcake1. you say the world isn't black and white, yet argue that incest should be illegal (I obviously agree) which is a categorical (black and white statement) your logic isn't consistent here.
2. Not everyone who disagrees with you is projecting. Not everyone is a sexual degenerate. I simply used a classical example that is commonly used to dispute the flaws in consent based morality. One can use murder as an example without literally being a murderer. Not everything is a projection all the time, humans are able to use their rational facilities to make arguments.
Okay I will play devil's advocate on this, the separation of church and state ensures that the government ensures the social common good of the people and the church ensures the spiritual common good of the people, so if two twin brothers or twin sisters have sexual relations with each other which they both know is morally bad but they decided to do it anyway I would think they would do it in secret and not tell anybody which they have every right to do as two consenting adults that's why there is a separation of church and state to begin with so the church won't interfere with people's basic freedom's that go against religious legality as long as these freedoms do not interfere with the basic common good of the people that's why people have the right to talk things over with their respective religious director because the state ensures one of the basic human freedoms of the right to practice their religion of choice now a part of that freedom of religion means Traditional Catholics should have the right to voice their opinion against lgbtq and have the right not to participate and things that involve lgbtq which they have the constitutional right to do as long as it doesn't go any farther than that since both parties rights must be respected under the law of the government which ensures the social common good of the people so if traditional Catholics have a problem that goes beyond that they have the right to talk it out with their spiritual director. (I'm a traditional catholic myself but it's in my nature as a rebel to play devil's advocate time from time 😈)
@@odanobunaga7584 you should reconsider your belief in seperation of church and state. It really isn’t consistent with Christian (especially catholic) beliefs.
@@deus_vult_1099 I know it's not that's why I said I will play Devils abvocate, the separation of church and state is Freemasonic not Catholic, but only a Catholic King or Queen can lead a Catholic America but America is a White-Anglo-Saxon-Protestant nation to begin with when it broke away from the King of England what is more interesting is the first people to land on United States was Catholic Spanish from Spain the Catholic history of United States is there but America was going to go that route anyway because Free Masonic America needed to complete manifest destiny, the truth is America the government is not Protestant or Catholic but Free Masonic, and the early turn-of-the-century revolutions that happened in France United States and Venezuela were all Free Masonic, I think Denmark and Iceland still have church and state united under the Lutheran Church maybe more countries do to buy have to do more research, I'm a scholar but don't claim to have all the information to all the answers but it's a interesting conversation for sure.
Love the clarity this sheds on the immortality of pornography. Thankful for the clarity of Catholic thought on this topic. Keep it up, Matt.
Oh I'm glad you found it clear. Can you summarize why porn is evil for me? I had a hard time following Matt's arguments
@@jamesk3612 Spoiler: there were none
@@nonpolar786Oh there were, but okay.
Great video, Matt. I think the best litmus test to expose pornography as evil is to ask your self whether or not you would be happy if a loved one was in a pornographic video (daughter, son, etc.). Deep down I think we all know its wrong. Something that I try to be conscious of to help resist the desire to look at porn is the simple fact that everyone featured in pornographic content is someone's daughter or son. If we wouldn't want our own loved ones involed in pornograpghy, than we shouldn't want anybody's loved ones in it. How shameful it is to be okay with somebody else's daughter in a pornographic video. Even if a person in porn denies the fact that what they are doing is wrong, they are probably causing much untold pain to their mother, father, children, etc. I think porn has been way more damaging to society than most people realize. It scares the hell out of me when I think of how easy it is for very young people to access extremely vulgar content and how damaging it is to their mind and soul, and how they will potentially bring extremely toxic sexual habits into their marriages, hurting their future spouses and themselves. I truly don't think we've seen the worst of it yet. Lord help us.
Good point.
Depends on the person. Would I be happy if this person was a maladjusted wreck with addictions, attachments, and other issues? No, and I would be concerned for him or her. Would I be happy if they were an ambitious, talented, studied, and tough-minded person who knew exactly what they were doing and loved it? "Happy" is probably too strong a word, but I would appreciate the fact that they found their niche and trust their judgement. Watching their porn would be weird, though.
And "S/he's someone's son/daughter!" is a no sequitur. Do you need to be reminded of this when you go on a date, or are intimate with your spouse? They're an adult, just like you, and should be respected as such.
Finally! An Excuse to have Brett on the show!
Thank you Matt for always calling people higher! It’s such a difference from all the voices in the world telling people to just do whatever they want.
Here before Kyle Whittington and Halley Lujah
We just need the Wednesday now
Based
Literally hopped on one minute after it was released.
Priorities.
I'm a protestant but I really appreciate your perspective on this and other issues. It seems at every stage porn is destructive.
I think all of the reasons given are correct and obvious BUT I don’t think we should even have serious conversations with someone who asks “what’s really that bad about porn”? They know. Anybody who’s ever watched especially if they “used” it they deep down know it’s awful because they felt it when they did it. We should dive into a conversation with someone who just want to talk about it but they admit it’s wrong. If you’re genuinely asking what’s wrong with it I’d say back to you “you know it’s wrong in your soul so I won’t validate this conversation till you admit that.”
The "consenting adult" argument only works if you are sovereign over your body and your soul. Guess what everyone, you aren't. God is sovereign! You were created. You didn't create yourself, and you do not belong to yourself. This is why self destructive behaviors are wrong. It simply isn't your "right" to do whatever you want with your own body.
@Russell Phelan Correct me if I am wrong but I think the Catholic Church condemned individualism.
@@2righthands816none of our founders are catholic
So, you're admitting that your arguments only work if you presuppose God?
@@CoffeeAddictEvan Yes. ABSOLUTELY.
@@mement0_m0ri geez, that's a new low
If your argument for porn is “well if there’s no human trafficking then it’s not that bad,” you might want to take a step back
Their just too far gone, and these dudes are like probably best-case example of whatever the hell there supposed to be and they are still that weak and far gone it's pathetic.
Keep in mind Brett is 21 and has not reached an age of 'wisdom'. She is a conservative, but she probably has not been exposed to Matt's arguments before, and probably wouldn't have a well reasoned response.
Also she is not religious as far as I know
i feel like a lot of her opinions are formed according to her audience's liking. Lot of men there are claiming to be conservative, but are big porn addicts so i think she kinda wants to appeal to them
The consenting adults conversation ONLY takes into consideration the man watching it and the woman creating it.
Does the spouse of the addict have enough information to consent?
If she did, that wouldn’t make it okay would it? Many secular couples watch porn together
@@lebecccomputer287 Why wouldn't it be OK?
@@Thagomizer if you’re Catholic, or any Christian really, there are things that are sinful even with full consent of all affected parties.
Based on other comments you left I get the impression that you’re coming here looking for opposition (I don’t mean that in a negative way, I do it too). So I should clarify and say that I’m not a Christian, nor do I care if you watch porn
I think a better way to reframe this is "rational consent."
A person watching porn in the moment because they have a great physical impulse in conjunction with predatory advertising from the industry is not thinking rational when they choose to watch. Much like an alcoholic who in a straight mind knows alcohol is bad for him but is overcome by great urge in certain circumstances.
The libertarians have this ridiculous idea that we should always do what people want in the moment, not what they would want in the long term.
@@lebecccomputer287Divorce imminent.
Matt, I love your work, but I think you have some things wrong. First, love is not desiring the best thing for the other. That is an aspect of human love, but it is not love. For there is nothing I can desire for God. Rather love is actively finding joy in the mere existence of the other. A consequence of this is desiring the others good. Second, use is not the opposite of love. For as Wotyla says, anytime a person asks anything from the other, they use them as means to an end. He uses an army commander as an example. A commander uses his soldiers for the purpose of war even to the point of death. Use of a human being the definition of evil comes from Kant, not Wotyla. Wotyla states that it is love which protects the human soul from being corrupted by using a human. I mean, if use was categorically wrong, (haha, Kant joke) God would commit sin continuously as he uses all things for good. This is nonsensical. Rather, when God uses you or me, he does so with love, actively rejoicing in our existence and acting to bring us to share in that joy as well.
I’m literally so happy that this is being brought out of the shadows and being talked about in a frank and loving way that we know this a a problem and that there is hope for putting it to bed
“Pornography sends souls to hell”
Phenomenal, Matt !!!
Proof?
If porn se d me to hell then just about nothings gonna get me to heaven
23:55 - 29:00ish is so good by Matt, needs to go viral!
Its so frustrating how the vast majority of people today that are the hosts’ and Brett’s age don’t think subordinating their personal dignity to the pleasure of sex in pornography is in itself wrong. They think it’s “empowering” if they’re intentionally doing it, and think it’s not harmful to themselves or morally wrong. Not sure how to make that point. Maybe I need to get your book.
@@brodicox2031I got a notification when it uploaded and watched. RUclips’s time stamps are off it seems.
I’m not trying to make a snarky comment, just thinking about how to get across to people as I feel like that’s always the disconnect.
What makes you or Matt the judge of someone's personal dignity? Would you say the same about an actor who stars in bad B movies, a primadonna's housekeeper, a dumpster diver, a panhandler, or a toilet attendant? Why or why not?
@@Thagomizer Yeah I think you're asking a good question, which is what I was wondering about too. But I think it does objecively feel to everyone that porn is undignified. I.e., No one would easily admit they're happy that their daughter does porn, and I think that tells us something.
It may have to do with what sex is for - for love with a spouse and potential reproduction. It's inherently for the couple, and not for more than that. And they'd be wrong to make it so. There's an old Norm McDonald joke: how do I know sex is dirty? Because we always close the blinds. Once sex ceases to become servant, it becomes a tyrant (GKC) - we easily see that in society. Cleaning toilets, acting in bad movies, is still dignified work (it's work done for the good of others). Pornography is done for the detriment of the performers and others (even if many mistakenly think it is a good)
@@Thagomizer pornography is harmful and addictive. I have exactly as much respect for pornographers as I do for drug dealers. A toilet scrubber or garbage collector is infinitely more respectable, because they do not profit from other people's addictions.
the moment you say something is wrong because of god you already lost the argument.
I'm not saying porn is good or right im just saying your nonexistent god has nothing to do with that fact nor should people care what your religion thinks of some topic, stop acting like everyone shoud follow what your belief system dictates, you follow your faith and let people follow theirs, if you dont like it then that is YOUR problem, you have no right to judge other people and if im not mistaken even your religion states that you shouldnt judge other people
Agreed my brother
Pervert detected.
porn isn’t right, and his religion is an extension of his belief system? i don’t see why it would be wrong for him to express himself and his morality in an open and honest way. religion and morality are not so dissimilar. also, i think he’s mostly talking to other christians.
Why people always talk about this as if everybody is an extremist like you? Why?
If you can't smoke a cigar without smoking a hundred that's your problem. Don't judge others based on your problem with "cigars".
100%
It's so bad because it is a sin and sin creates chaos and chaos creates destruction - every sin created is one more move closer to destruction (as Jordon Peterson says) acts are not random. But I guess people don't really care that much about sin. ..... but they should care about destruction.
End all sin
Sin is like smoking; it takes a seemingly long time to see the fallout. It's a 1 minute I'm happily sinning my life away and then you wake up at 60 and your life is in ruins and you're wondering how it happened.
When you said something along the lines of "if your litmus test is that you aren't rap#$ng anyone you have fallen so far" that hit like a ton of bricks. Hope you don't mind me stealing that, Matt. Perfect response to modern sexual behavior.
Brett Cooper is cool, hope her and Thursday get married
Since 1984 there have been over 500 American porn actors who have died prematurely all of whom were under age 40. These deaths involved alcohol fueled car crashes, suicide, heart attacks, murder, and drug overdoses. The industry has an psychological effect on those involved. A few people have long careers and can handle it, but those are an exception.
And what about their family life if they had any... Would they advice for their children to watch it? Are they good role models? Is all everlasting vices till they rot. If that's the way they treat themselves how can we expect for them to show sacrifice, compassion and responsibility for anybody?
I think the hard thing about society is accepting dignity and objectivity.
And here naive little me was thinking that sex is how you express your love for the partner you are married to for life.
It's not for expressing love. It's for making children for God. It's not to enjoy
@@MangyPLit’s meant to be enjoyed between husband and wife but WITH the possibility of bringing new life into the world. No protection. That’s the way God designed it. It strengthens the marriage bond.
@@Sebwojdalowicz enjoying sex is a sin
@@MangyPL No it’s not. Your theology is screwed up. Have you even read the Bible? Song of Songs? Satan has perverted sex. God wants it to be enjoyed within the confines of Biblical marriage. Sex is a pillar of marriage. If enjoying sex is a sin, tell me why it feels good? It’s a biologically pleasurable experience. It’s in the design. The church makes sex seem like some sort of dirty act, but it really isn’t in the confines of marriage. Proverbs 5:18-20 literally says to enjoy your wife’s breasts 😂. “The apostle Paul taught that a godly marriage should include frequent and satisfying sexual intimacy (1 Corinthians 7:3-5).”
@@MangyPL Proverbs 5:18-20 (literally says to enjoy your wife’s breasts 😂, and to be intoxicated by her love)
1 Corinthians 7:3-5 (Paul writes that married couples shouldn’t deprive themselves from sex (unless agreed for some time), as it strengthens their bond.
Songs of Solomon (an entire book in the Bible about why sex is great thing). If sex wasn’t meant to be enjoyed (within the confines of Holy marriage), why the heck does it feel good by biological design? I think your theology is screwed up brother
“Porns good”. “I also quit it and my life is drastically improved”. Call them out on this, if porn is so good or at least “not bad” why did you quit? Why are you embarrassed to tell your grandmother you did it? It’s an inherent evil and children of God are ashamed of it by nature, why is it so hard to admit it’s bad?
As cradle Catholic Brazilian I feel compelled to say: Cold coffee is heresy!!! 😝😝😝😅😅
When things are illegal, far less people do it. Sure, there will still be people that do it, and there will still be a black market, but many people will choose to obey the law because there are consequences if you do not.
A lot of stars in that industry are hooked on drugs, often times od and I believe its the backlash of committing that sin
10:42 This reminds me of a quote by Slavoj Zizek (not endorsing his views tho) that was like: Today we want everything in a distilled form, coffee without caffeine, beer without alcohol and what we are calling "sex" is precisely sex without sex
dude... it already bothers me that I find her mildly attractive and I can't un-see that meme where it says she's the female Ben Shapiro... when you speed her up like that... dude.... dude don't speed her up like that now she really does look like Ben. Good points made though nonetheless, I'm still beginning my journey into Catholicism but it's conversations like this which remind me I'm on the right path.
Brett is a boys name.... look at "her" very carefully.
@@nordicwarriorgaming4953 dude she is clearly a woman, like an actual one - I'll eat my hat if she's trans.
Lol yeah, Brett is so obviously a woman.
On another note, how is your journey going?
Nice! you should have Brett on!!!
Whenever people say “I don’t believe in xyz, but I don’t believe in telling other people what to do…” they are being selfish. They should charitably help people understand how they are harming themselves.
Yaaaass 🙌🙌
What if someone’s an atheist?
@@nonpolar786 I think "xyz" isn't meant to be God, but rather a principle, like "I don't believe in the idea humans can change genders". And if one believes that this idea is harming people, then they should try lovingly help others understand why
@@rosedevine440 The problem with a statement like “humans can’t switch genders” is that it’s verifiably false, even if you don’t want to recognize it , trans people have existed, currently exist, and will always exist. I perceived the original comment to be referring to something more opinionated like pornography is bad, which is not a verified claim, in which case there should be no reason to tell any other individual what to do with it
@@nonpolar786 I don't think it's verifiably false, gender is inextricably linked to sex. The term is used to refer to roles or characteristics of women and men, but even when a male has some characteristics commonly associated with females, they are still male.
And as to your second point, the claim that pornography is bad for us is verified (I can send you some sources if you'd like).
Also, many truths are not "verified" by modern society, so I tend not to use popular consensus as a marker. Instead we should rely on reason, science and intuition. Once the truth is found using these, it is our moral responsibility to uphold it.
The question "should porn be banned" is an extremely reliable moral barometer to determine the kind of person you're dealing with.
@Silly Cupcake! 🧁 and now I know what kind of person you are.
As in, are we dealing with a totalitarian, or not?
@Silly Cupcake! 🧁 Cringe.
This is like saying fraud or murder shouldn't be illegal, because it's our duty not to sin.
It's not good for society.
It would be better if there was no demand for it, but because of our fallen nature, there always will be.
@@Thagomizer Do we believe in exploiting or protecting human beings?
@@Thagomizer The Left has already kicked in this door. Christians just need to call it "deplatforming" and suddenly it's palatable to modern audiences.
This comment is for you Thursday. You are the GOAT!
I’m sure you do a lot more than just edit and not sure how big the Pints team is so, at the risk of sounding ignorant, I just have to say…
I haven’t watched a Pints vid in awhile and I was blown away with all the little effects, sounds, everything, throughout this one. SO GOOD!!
It makes me feel like you are a part of the vid without physically being in the vid. So it’s like a window into getting to know you more which is cool because I know this channel is so much more than Matt/just what we see in the vids. (Matt you’re great too obviously)
The editing (ahem, *you*) does a great job to amplify the content instead of interrupt it or distract from it like I’ve seen in other random, otherwise decent quality, vids on my recommended feed.
It meshes seamlessly into the video and into Matt’s personality as well which has a compounding effect that makes his content better and amplifies the information he’s sharing.
Matt, you found a great employee! Hope to run into you both one day so I can buy y’all a beer (or iced coffee 🧊☕️)!
Great commentary! And Brett Cooper did a great job, especially thinking of all that on the spot.
I died laughing at the opening of this vid 😆Love you Matt Fradd!!
"A sign of manhood is having your lower passions subject to your reason"
Love that Matt
"it's always wrong to treat someone as a means to an end" is nonsense. just think about it, Matt! it's nonsense! you're obviously using these boys, talking to this girl, as a means to your end of offering a commentary expressing your views on p0rn. and there's nothing wrong with that!
Consent in sexual matters is necessary, but it’s not sufficient. Critical difference.
Porn is inherently bad. That's it! Matt said it best!
I love how non-milquetoast this is. You refused to just accept porn as being okay because everyone consented, which is often treated as the only virtue and only requirement. And I love the explanations of love and humanity. Stellar video
I have an idea? How about we hold women who do porn ACCOUNTABLE for being the sexual predators they are! That way young women think twice before consenting to do porn because the permanent social consequences outweigh the temporary monetary gain. Also Brett’s willingness to concede on the slightest push-back is why women don’t belong anywhere near politics OR the pulpit.
......... next you'll be telling us women don't belong in a voting booth or allowed to open their own bank account or to be able to own land or property apart from their husband/father/male guardian....
@@Jack-hd1zn Considering the number one issue women vote on is their “right” to kill babies yes, absolutely! But I’ll take accountability for being a sexual predator first.
@Murphy’s Muskets Your logic would only make sense if the vast majority of women voters supported pro-choice candidates and that's not the case, not even in deep blue elections.
Women don't vote specifically to protect their "right" to choose, they vote because they are rightly considered a part of the electorate and deserve the privilege to cast their vote to elect officials who will represent their own interests in government.
@@Jack-hd1zn As a Catholic you should know that “rights” come with “duties”. What duties do modern women have? You realize there’s “no fault” divorce right? What social consequences do women bare for infanticide? Or for exposing our young impressionable sons to pornography? Using the language of “choice” means you’ve fully adopted progressive dialect framework, so what are you even arguing?
@@murphysmuskets first, no taxation without representation. Second, I’ve been active in the pro life movement my entire teen/adult life. Third, Roe V Wade was passed by a SCOTUS full of men 🤨
Thanks for your work Matt, because unfortunately it's physically impossible for me to comment on anything related to the p*rn industry without fed-posting
The dudes Brett is talking to are super, super creepy.
Matt, I'd love to see you challenge Brett and these guys to look into the research that has been done on porn. Just a few studies would probably be enough to change their vague position of "I feel like people can do what they want" into "sweet beans, porn is destroying our entire society, ban it all." Great video though, as always!
I have literally just finished watching the Iced Coffee Hour with Brett Cooper and when it came to the porn section, I had to write a lengthy comment on what they were saying! The reasoning behind what the men were saying absolutely baffled me and boiled a bit of my blood. I even went so far as to mention Matt Fradd, his books and talks as a resource for anyone struggling. While watching the original video, I exclaimed in disagreement, but I don't imagine I will be doing that with this video. I cannot wait to hear what he has to say on what Brett and the two guys said.
I'll just say the Catholic sexual ethic is so concise and clear and apartment it was what converted me.
We could all better our lives and society is we only adhered to this one tenant of catholicism completely.
I think it's the most foundational aspect of how you view morality, self worth, and love of others.
God bless your ministry Matt
On sex work -- One woman's rare positive experience is not worth the thousands that are exploited and suffering.
Referring specifically to your assertion that porn is inherently wrong (like molestation) as opposed to gambling: Can you provide a reason for a non-believer (e.g. outside the Bible) that porn is wrong?
No, they really can't.
Non believers are too stupid and ignorant to understand anything. Talking to them in most cases is worthless.
@@kenofken9458 it commodifies the human sexuality in a way that is demeaning to the person themselves. it subverts respect and intimacy that is (should be in even the secular ethical moral worldview) required for sexual acts with a loving partner and places one’s own arousal or pleasure above the respect of the other person. humans are never owed another’s sexuality.
@@bbmb4by This is just rehashed Christian sexual ethic.
normally, in the free market, products will continually improve the effect the consumer is trying to achieve (think vacuums turning electrical so you can clean better) however, with porn, (and it’s addictive nature) the way that producers have to fulfill the constant need for a “greater product” (the effect is arousal) they’ll constantly be pushing sexual limits. testing the waters of what’s just socially acceptable enough to get someone off without overriding their arousal with disgust. (this is why we now think bdsm, choking, and all other degrading (frequently misogynistic) forms of “sex” aren’t so strange even though just 50 years ago you’d be a depraved lunatic to even think about such a thing) basically, porn is literally incentivizing producers to slowly create fantasy rapists, misogynists, and worse.
Pray: We, the people of our Fther, Son, and Holy Spirit, reclaim the month of June and our Lord's rainbow, and purge these two of the vile, satanic, depravity! To hell to those who abide this evil/fornication
Keep in mind that just because Brett is on DW, that doesn’t assume she is a Christian. In fact I don’t think she professes to be one. I do think she is a moral thinker and her influence tends to lean conservative.
The daily wire itself doesn't claim to be Christian
You are drinking coffee and not liquor? That's a welcome change. If Ben was a women she would look like Brett.
I understand that many parents find it easier to install software on their children's devices, but wouldn't TALKING TO THEM and EXPLAINING be the better way? I am in my mid-40s, but I remember when I was like 12, my mom bought my sister and me a German youth magazine, Bravo, which she didn't know, but which was actually very popular in German speaking countries at the time because there was a page with supposedly authentic letters from teenagers about sex (and a lot more content as well that promoted sex for teenagers). A few months later, my mom looked into it, found something in the magazine that contained some question about some perverse practice and was shocked. She came to us and told us: 'You're forbidden to read this magazine, it's stupid!' But unfortunately, she didn't tell us at all why... So we of course went on to buy the magazine in secret, which seriously influenced our expectations of relationships (the magazine regularly suggested that you're not normal if you have never kissed at 13 and are still a virgin at 16). If I think back, I guess a good, open discussion with my mom about what the magazine contained and why it was 'stupid', would have been very helpful and would have probably kept us from reading it anymore. So, parents, please talk about your values to your children and teenagers! Please!
You can do both, which is what Matt advocates frequently.
Both are necessary
Excellent. Have you covered IVF yet. Scary number of Christians and Conservatives are in error there too.
Brett is truly mindful and I appreciate her talking about this. Thank you for making this video sir.
Isn’t unfettered/Forced immigration/integration. (FORCED, as in NOT voted For by a host nation of people of a particular race,) ISN’T that “Racist”? B/c All I hear is it’s only racist one-way, when euro/whites not wanting diversity to move into their communities. Serious question.
I just got my 'reclaim the month T-shirt' in the mail today!
The Daily Wire lacks the moral foundation that it takes to maintain a consistent conservative worldview. They start with a modern political conservatism as their foundation rather than building a robust political conservatism from the Word of God. I appreciate much of what they do, but I lament their often inability to hold a standard based upon an unapologetic and unchanging morality (namely, God's Word). I say this as a Reformed Protestant. Good video and good reaction, Matt.
@@OfficialTonyD agreed. Andrew klavan doesn't want to confront his son of his homosexual -relationship- sining evil life. So yeah Matt Walsh and Michael Knowles do I know they're the only Christians on that podcast. Jordan Petersons doesn't outright condemn pornography which is very liberal of him although he does say it's bad but not evil and objectively, so I admire those two more than the rest.
Matt, thank you for always standing on the side of truth and the standard that we are called by Christ to live by. This video was amazing, as we must be steadfast in our condemnation of this great evil that has plagued our society and that has poisoned the great good that is our sexuality given to us by almighty God. God bless!!!
But viewing if something awful is sin, then reading the Bible is a sin, since there grusome events that takes place, tourtue, murder, stealing, revenge, heresey.
Thank you Matt for having the courage to call out evil and having the keen ability to cut through the lie that no one has the right to speak out about someone else doing an objectively evil action as long as they “consented.”
after hearing several daily wire thingies that seem to soft-support porn...phoc it. I hate porn and and there's no circumstance under which it is not wicked. DW finally convinced me. Weirdly ironic.
She has to be Ben Shapiro's sister
I hope Brett sees this!!
Saying porn destroys marriage is like saying guns kill people... At some point humanity has to own up to it's own failures...
Keep justifying your addictions and perversions. Coomer.
Guns don’t change a persons brain. Porn physically changes the brain
Adultery kills marriage, does it not? Bad analogy
There is no pure or good use of porn. Guns can be defended as having a good and right place in society.
@@RCGWhowell said
that might be true if marriage wasn’t a monogamous commitment to another person, and infidelity is intrinsic to porn. guns are not inherently murder weapons.
As an ex porn addict, who watched regularly for more than 10 hours a day before I was even in highschool, I can personally attest to how bad this thing can go. I can't even sum it up in a single comment, but even 4 months completely removed from pornography, and 5 years of fighting to stop, I still can see how my brain is severely affected by pornography, and how it even affects my marriage now. Research has shown that photo based pornography (not videos) take 6 months of completely quitting for the brain to remap to a normal state, for video pornography they saw it taking upwards of a year and a half to recover, although they didn't know the upper limit of how long it could take to recover from video pornography. Im now 4 months out, and I still feel the daily effects. According to the study I read, someone who indulged in photographic based porn only would already have reverted completely on a conscious level by 3 months, with 6 months for a complete neurological recovery. At 4 months I feel very little difference from day 1, except for the fact that I'm not constantly itching to get on one of those sites, but how it affects my marriage, my view of women, my dopamine response, etc. I can confidently say I think it will be at least another year before im fully recovered, possibly more.
Pornography is perfectly fine, so long as there is consent & willingness involved between adult parties.
You clearly didn't watch a single second of this video
@@enchantedgoldrushcope Tradcon
I love that example of someone consenting to being called racial slurs! Brilliant, Matt!
Do you think it is possible that Dennis P is defending it because his father did it and if Dennis admits it is wrong then would be admitting his dad was wrong to do it?
And in turn his mother for "allowing" her husband to do it?
My wife and I both watched all of Matt and Dennis' conversation and we both came to that same conclusion. He's justifying the sins of his father because he can't allow that image to be tarnished in his mind.
It seems likely. Dennis is opposed to modern pornography, but he thinks the kind of pornography his parents used is okay... Likely because he doesn't want to view his parents as having had any immoral habits.
I also came to that conclusion. His very high opinion and respect of his father would be shattered and that is a terrifying thing to come to terms with esp when you don't have the Holy Trinity to hold you in your pain. Not only did his father choose the wrong thing but his mom was also an enabler, it's sad really.
@Heaven it is, and although he says his parents had a "happy marriage" I guarantee that his mother hated his father's porn use.
@@danielnoel3540 You can't guarantee anything. Not everyone thinks like you.
You could argue that the Puritan response that nudity is wrong over the Catholic view that only porn is wrong. Victoria Secrets is commonly used as a transition to porn. Candace Owen's husband won't use social media. The state of Texas went after a store because it a statue of Micalagelo's David under Texas' porn laws because nudity is nudity. While I am an artist so I personally don't personally don't hate nudity, people who do make that view will never be addicted.
I am trying to get my local Library system to carry The P0rn Myth
You might be morally right in that watching porn is harmful, but it's unrealistic to assume that a sizeable portion of young men are capable of stopping. You can't expect young men to suddenly be like you know, you're right, I'll just stop watching porn.
As a young man that wants to quit, you are right.
we can hope they’ll have empathy though.
I stoped watching porn and masturbating about nine years ago when my girlfriend who is now my wife and mother of our child found an internet search for porn on my computer and confronted me about it. The further you get away from porn and masturbation the more you realize how degrading, unmanly, and loser-y it is.
Thank you Matt, loving the reaction videos.
I call BS on the "porn actresses are sometimes sex slaves".
Maybe if you're talking about kiddie porn or drugged out women, but in high scale productions where the actors are playing characters ( say superheroines like Wonder Woman, Supergirl and Batgirl, who are THE top sellers), there's simply no way these are mot real actors (most times you even get BTS footage of the actors so you can verify it's all acted and faked, especially the beatdowns).
Pick your porn like you pick your food.
Th UN "peacekeeping" missions fuel sex trafficking far more than porn ever will...
Would you really know the difference? And even if you did, would it matter?
They are still degrading themselves, and the person viewing that is still participating in that.
@@laststand6420 Uh yeah it definitely matters (I ain't gonna go 8mm anytime soon).
And as far as voluntary self degradation goes, I can say the same for every first round talent show contestant (American Idol).
Many of these women work out a lot, eat very little, and shave a lot to get the opportunity to degrade themselves...
@@el_killorcure It's still wrong... Made even worse by the fact that some of them are undoubtedly forced to do whatever degrading act they are a part of.
@@laststand6420 Well there's wrong (Peter mutilating a guard and denying Jesus, Paul persecuting Christians) and then there's real wrong (stumbling block for little ones, sinning against the Holy Spirit)...
Love this new content from 85% scale Matt
14:26 How did that study control for the relationship between the occurrences of depression with porn? It sounds like a case of correlation/causation confusion. Did the porn cause them to be depressed or were they already depressed and the porn was being used to alleviate it? Maybe they were already depressed due to a lack of finding a woman. I really hope in your book you discuss the methodology of the study.
As for the grades of the boys sure I believe that but any kind of addiction will do that. Addiction to video games or television will do that too.
As for the porn/shrinking brain claim the research that really got this started was a German study and even they didn’t make definitive conclusions. They wrote that “one may be tempted…” to make that assessment. In an interview one of the authors said “It's not clear ... whether watching porn leads to brain changes or whether people born with certain brain types watch more porn,”. It was in The Daily Telegraph. As a rule of thumb studies are not as definitive in their conclusions as we think they are. The findings were suggestive of such conclusions not determinative.
16:10 sure I agree but if those passions include a strong appetite that can’t be satisfied the way we do for food it’s very hard and frustrating for men. It’s easy for you from the comfort of one who has been fortunate enough to have found a wife to make love to speak of “you must control the lower appetite by the higher ones” as if that’s all there is. The appetite for sex is strong and a natural one and what makes this especially hard is that it’s not one you can just open the pantry and make it go away. It’s one men go to porn not so much because they want an alternative to reality but because their reality hasn’t panned out for them.
21:06 Agreed, less bad doesn’t necessarily mean it’s better than the more of the same bad. However the calculus can be different. Maybe it’s the less bad so as to avoid greater problems. Maybe we choose the less bad not because we think it’s ok to do but it may prevent other consequences. Let me use the example of the late Pope Benedict XVI. He said that gay men who engage in sexual activity should use condoms. Was he promoting gay sex? No of course not. What he was doing was recognizing that not everyone is capable of living the ideal holy life immediately and that until sometimes the lesser bad must be engaged to prevent greater harm. By engaging in “safe gay sex” the greater harm prevented is the spread of diseases among the gay population. Maybe lesser graphic forms of porn, ones that don’t depict the sexual activity of the more sluttier and trash, can be a lesser bad that prevents men from the built up pressure of the heat of libido they could possibly satisfy in more horrible ways in society. Sometimes we have to balance many consequences some that are immediately necessarily to control and prevent while striving to the ideal life.
So you decide to do a 180 ok then in the meantime while you’re making that long hard journey a man’s appetite is still there.