Now after the pandemic, no one in my family drives further than maybe 25 miles on the daily, with perhaps a few weekend road trips for which our petrol cars are fine. Even a heavily degraded Leaf would be perfect for the town runabout, and here's something I posit to petrolheads: imagine how much life and wear you'd save on your petrol engine if you stopped doing the sub-5 mile journeys that we all do to the shops and on the school run. Saving your petrol car for long trips will increase the longevity of the engine and drivetrain no end, and if you can get a Leaf for
Just bought one, 4 years old. Petrol is about £8 a gallon. I have lots of solar panel, so free fuel, and short daily journeys. Why bother firing up a petrol engine, with hundreds of moving parts, oil, water, spark plugs..etc???
The Mk1 Leaf might look dated, but the savings it can give you over buying petrol or diesel still hold good. And particularly so with the price of fossil fuel creeping ever upwards.... The Mk 1 Leaf is also at the basic end of the EV spectrum, and consequently doesn't have to cost the earth when you need a battery refurbishment....... There is a RUclips video of a 10 year old UK owned Leaf getting a battery refurb. The work took around 4 hours and cost the owner £600......
@@Brian-om2hh thank you for your reply. I agree with you. It is a very well priced fully electric car, and if running costs can be kept low, and you can forgive its looks, there is very little reson not to go for it. As long as your daily commute isn't too far.
I don't like the (past its use-by date) rubber-glue puncture repair kit - should I get a full-size spare, or a slightly more expensive Space-Saver spare?
Got one. Great around the town. Nothing broke so far, still has original brakes etc after 105k km. Does not wash or vacuum itself, major disappointment.. I's like a bike that just goes and is too cheap to steal. Awesome for daily use to take the most of the chores, does it essentially for free. Not exciting for longer trips, though
Did I hear that right? - that these things have a range of 50 - 80 miles, take 8 -9 hours to re-charge, and a replacement battery pack costs £4500 - and you're recommending them as a good buy? - yes, for people with more money than sense.
If you don't leave the suburbans or the city (and you can charge it during shopping, while at work or at home), yes. I would not notice the 50-80 miles issue in my daily life at all, but i have access to a charger where i sleep at night.
Most cars only do 20 or 30 miles most days. A cheap Leaf is fine for shopping or short distance commutes, as part of a multi-vehicle household. When you want to go cross-country take one of your petrol or diesel cars, which you won't have worn out doing lots of cold starts and short runs.
The £4500 cost for replacing the battery is a bit of a red-herring, in fairness...! That would be if it was necessary to replace the ENTIRE pack of 192 cells - in truth, that would be incredibly unlikely... Due to the way the battery pack chargers, over time, individual cells degrade at different rates - so, if it was even necessary, you might only replace, for example, 20-25% of the cells... still not exactly cheap, granted, but then replacing the timing belt on an ICE car is a costly affair, too...!
You heard it ok. But what you didn't hear, or don't realise, is that there are other options rather than complete battery replacement. Few people realise it, but the battery pack can be tested, and the failing cells replaced with good ones. This work will cost a *lot* less than having a complete battery pack replacement. Of course the EV nay sayers and doubters would have you believe a new pack is needed every 3 years, at the same cost an an Apollo Moon mission.... But then I remain convinced some of them are paid plants, installed by the big oil companies in an effort to slow the uptake of EV's. They know the clock is ticking, and they're trying to hang on as long as possible.... This is exactly what happened 110 years ago when the first cars appeared. The anti-car lobby recruited as many Lordy types and Political big shots - including many with interests in horse breeding - in an attempt to stop the car from becoming more popular......
You'll only be sticking with petrol until such things as emissions charging schemes, erratic petrol supply, or legislation pulls you off the road. It'll be one of those three...... They're all on the way. It's simply a case of which one has your number on it.
@Uncle Gilbert yep defo has limited use but we've managed for 12 years with one car and bikes. Actually having a bike as a second vehicle means I'm not called on to serve as a taxi whilst wife has the car so get my time to myself more lol.
@@hymlog what's with the insults? I do the shopping on the bike, I get to work on the bike , the kids walk to school 5 mins up the road. I get my exercise on the bike so no need to drive to the gym. We all have bikes and go out together exploring the fantastic Yorkshire scenery on trails that take us places we would never see in a car. We have a car for when its necessary. By taking the bike and not driving round in a 2 ton pram everywhere we have saved a lot of fuel.( at £1.70 per litre) and money and pollution. But if that's childish fair enough lol.
Even as a Mk1 Leaf owner myself, yep... she's not the prettiest, that's for sure...! But, the styling absolutely plays to its strength when it comes to the lack of wind noise at speed - it is a really serene car to drive in on the motorway.
Electric cars are still useless. The majority of cars on the road are used, no way the first generation Leaf does 110 miles. In 2030 the majority of cars on the roads are going to be with under 100 miles. I prefer walking than using one of them. i'm going to be using the same car that I use now, in 2040
"...no way the first generation Leaf does 110 miles"... Er... yes, it does... in my 76,000 mile 30kWh Acenta, I still get 110-120 miles in summer and 90-100 in winter, which costs me about £1.50 per charge from my home wall-box. Compare that, even to a 50mpg ICE car and your fuel cost would be about £12.
Er, no you're not...... unless of course you push it instead of driving it, because I doubt you'll be able to find petrol to put in it by 2040. And what petrol there is available will cost more than you ever thought possible. But if you'd rather walk, feel free. With the current rate of progress and development, I'd fully expect to see electric cars with a range of 500 to 600+ miles in 2030. I don't know how far you typically drive, but 500 miles would probably last me around three weeks to a month......
You guys are dreaming. The electric infrastructure in the thirties will be creaking. We are not building Power plants now, and they don’t spring up overnight. Then what about the numbers of ev s that will be stuck in snow On the motorways when there are hold up or accidents and they have been using battery to keep warm. I guess there will be a shift to hydrogen.
I really like the distinctive styling of the Mark 1 Leaf. Great ride quality and very reliable.
Now after the pandemic, no one in my family drives further than maybe 25 miles on the daily, with perhaps a few weekend road trips for which our petrol cars are fine. Even a heavily degraded Leaf would be perfect for the town runabout, and here's something I posit to petrolheads: imagine how much life and wear you'd save on your petrol engine if you stopped doing the sub-5 mile journeys that we all do to the shops and on the school run. Saving your petrol car for long trips will increase the longevity of the engine and drivetrain no end, and if you can get a Leaf for
It’s a great car! Ours is a 2014 and we have had it for two years now. Sold the petrol car a year ago, never used it.
Just bought one, 4 years old.
Petrol is about £8 a gallon.
I have lots of solar panel, so free fuel, and short daily journeys.
Why bother firing up a petrol engine, with hundreds of moving parts, oil, water, spark plugs..etc???
thanks, very good comments.
Another great video! Those arent bad prices for a fully electric car. Sadly, they look a bit dated.
Cry me a river
The Mk1 Leaf might look dated, but the savings it can give you over buying petrol or diesel still hold good. And particularly so with the price of fossil fuel creeping ever upwards.... The Mk 1 Leaf is also at the basic end of the EV spectrum, and consequently doesn't have to cost the earth when you need a battery refurbishment....... There is a RUclips video of a 10 year old UK owned Leaf getting a battery refurb. The work took around 4 hours and cost the owner £600......
@@Brian-om2hh thank you for your reply. I agree with you. It is a very well priced fully electric car, and if running costs can be kept low, and you can forgive its looks, there is very little reson not to go for it. As long as your daily commute isn't too far.
I really liked this video review - but, then, I am a Mk1 Leaf owner...! ;-)
I'm buying a 13 plate 24kw on Wednesday. Any advice?
My Mum's currently got her 3rd Leaf
Whatever you think of these, this car was a true trailblazer.
Is
I don't like the (past its use-by date) rubber-glue puncture repair kit - should I get a full-size spare, or a slightly more expensive Space-Saver spare?
I'm buying a 13 plate on Wednesday. Any other advice?
Now that the SOH(kWh) has aged/reduced - it can be fully recharged overnight from 7hr Off-Peak. Yay!
Got one. Great around the town. Nothing broke so far, still has original brakes etc after 105k km. Does not wash or vacuum itself, major disappointment.. I's like a bike that just goes and is too cheap to steal. Awesome for daily use to take the most of the chores, does it essentially for free. Not exciting for longer trips, though
Found your video on the reddit post b
...I GOT A 2016 WITH 16,000 MILES ..SHE'S BLACK AND BEAUTIFUL! ....WOULD I DO IT AGAIN?
...SHUT-UP AND TAKE MY MONEY!!
Boondocks means piggybacking a 200lbs generator
A used Leaf is a great vehicle, but only if it's a few thousand dollars or less. Also, the modern EV started with the Roadster, not the Leaf.
Did I hear that right? - that these things have a range of 50 - 80 miles, take 8 -9 hours to re-charge, and a replacement battery pack costs £4500 - and you're recommending them as a good buy? - yes, for people with more money than sense.
If you don't leave the suburbans or the city (and you can charge it during shopping, while at work or at home), yes. I would not notice the 50-80 miles issue in my daily life at all, but i have access to a charger where i sleep at night.
Most cars only do 20 or 30 miles most days. A cheap Leaf is fine for shopping or short distance commutes, as part of a multi-vehicle household. When you want to go cross-country take one of your petrol or diesel cars, which you won't have worn out doing lots of cold starts and short runs.
The £4500 cost for replacing the battery is a bit of a red-herring, in fairness...!
That would be if it was necessary to replace the ENTIRE pack of 192 cells - in truth, that would be incredibly unlikely...
Due to the way the battery pack chargers, over time, individual cells degrade at different rates - so, if it was even necessary, you might only replace, for example, 20-25% of the cells... still not exactly cheap, granted, but then replacing the timing belt on an ICE car is a costly affair, too...!
You heard it ok. But what you didn't hear, or don't realise, is that there are other options rather than complete battery replacement. Few people realise it, but the battery pack can be tested, and the failing cells replaced with good ones. This work will cost a *lot* less than having a complete battery pack replacement. Of course the EV nay sayers and doubters would have you believe a new pack is needed every 3 years, at the same cost an an Apollo Moon mission.... But then I remain convinced some of them are paid plants, installed by the big oil companies in an effort to slow the uptake of EV's. They know the clock is ticking, and they're trying to hang on as long as possible.... This is exactly what happened 110 years ago when the first cars appeared. The anti-car lobby recruited as many Lordy types and Political big shots - including many with interests in horse breeding - in an attempt to stop the car from becoming more popular......
Good video but I'm sticking to Petrol, no matter what Governments says differently .....
You'll only be sticking with petrol until such things as emissions charging schemes, erratic petrol supply, or legislation pulls you off the road. It'll be one of those three...... They're all on the way. It's simply a case of which one has your number on it.
.....BIG TIME SPENDER! ....S P E N D I T!
This is obviously an advertorial. No really useful information, just pushing a squeaky barrow.
So decide whether you'd rather have this, or carry everything in a rucksack and walk. A third class ride *always* beats a first class walk....
....STEPHEN DON'T DON'T GET ONE! ...MORE FOR US!
I'd have one asa second car, but I'm happier riding a cheap DIY ebike when it's not raining lol.
@Uncle Gilbert yep defo has limited use but we've managed for 12 years with one car and bikes.
Actually having a bike as a second vehicle means I'm not called on to serve as a taxi whilst wife has the car so get my time to myself more lol.
...CHILDREN SAY THE DARNEST THINGS!
@@hymlog what's with the insults?
I do the shopping on the bike, I get to work on the bike , the kids walk to school 5 mins up the road.
I get my exercise on the bike so no need to drive to the gym.
We all have bikes and go out together exploring the fantastic Yorkshire scenery on trails that take us places we would never see in a car.
We have a car for when its necessary.
By taking the bike and not driving round in a 2 ton pram everywhere we have saved a lot of fuel.( at £1.70 per litre) and money and pollution.
But if that's childish fair enough lol.
@@FlyingFun. ...NOBODY pulled your chain...! Go sit down!
A shame it's so ugly, even a dull looking astra-like would have been Ok, but this is seriously hurting my eyes (and ego)
Even as a Mk1 Leaf owner myself, yep... she's not the prettiest, that's for sure...!
But, the styling absolutely plays to its strength when it comes to the lack of wind noise at speed - it is a really serene car to drive in on the motorway.
@@jonathantaylor1998 Sure it is all substance over style this car
Electric cars are still useless. The majority of cars on the road are used, no way the first generation Leaf does 110 miles. In 2030 the majority of cars on the roads are going to be with under 100 miles. I prefer walking than using one of them. i'm going to be using the same car that I use now, in 2040
"...no way the first generation Leaf does 110 miles"...
Er... yes, it does... in my 76,000 mile 30kWh Acenta, I still get 110-120 miles in summer and 90-100 in winter, which costs me about £1.50 per charge from my home wall-box.
Compare that, even to a 50mpg ICE car and your fuel cost would be about £12.
Er, no you're not...... unless of course you push it instead of driving it, because I doubt you'll be able to find petrol to put in it by 2040. And what petrol there is available will cost more than you ever thought possible. But if you'd rather walk, feel free. With the current rate of progress and development, I'd fully expect to see electric cars with a range of 500 to 600+ miles in 2030. I don't know how far you typically drive, but 500 miles would probably last me around three weeks to a month......
You guys are dreaming. The electric infrastructure in the thirties will be creaking. We are not building
Power plants now, and they don’t spring up overnight. Then what about the numbers of ev s that will be stuck in snow
On the motorways when there are hold up or accidents and they have been using battery to keep warm.
I guess there will be a shift to hydrogen.
Electric is not for me yet until the ranger improves i am sticking with my 700 miles from one tank full of diesel car
...PLEASE DO ! ....THAT'S MORE FOR THE REST OF US!